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Help finding a saturated morganite for rose gold ring

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sruizaroo

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Hi y''all,

I saw a beautiful morganite ring on 23rdstreetjewelers.com and it took my breath away. I think it''s kind of overpriced though and would like to source my own large, oval, color saturated morganite to have a jeweler set for me in rose gold with a diamond halo.

Unfortunately I can''t attach a picture but the Item # is # SMR3530. It''s an oval center stone, 5.41cts and looks to me like it''s one of those pinky/orangey morganites. (I really know *nothing* about morganites.) I looked today briefly at some sites that were recommended on here (like ajs, multicolour, thaigems, etc.) but I really don''t know what to look for! Can anybody help, please? I am open to suggestions and links. I don''t even know what I should be spending. I''ve seen threads with people spending as little as $13 (!) on a morganite and I''ve seen morganites online for up to 3k.

Any help would be appreciated. THANKS!
 
Pricing will vary due to the saturation and size. The richer the colour, the more expensive it will be. A 5 carat morganite with a strong pink colour isn’t going to sell for $13.
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How much do you think a 5 carat saturated morganite will go for, around? And any recommendations where to look and what i should be looking for?
 
Do you have an example picture or link showing the shade and saturation of pink you are looking for? One person''s idea of what a saturated stone is might be different from another person''s.
 
I hope this works! Pic attached . .. i think?

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and actually, the more that i think about it, it doesn''t have to be so large. i''d go as low as 2 carats. i''m just really interested in that saturated color and that style of ring. ... for less than 5k!
 
The problem is that the smaller the morganite is, the less saturated it will be. They are typically quite pale in saturation so it’s not easy to find a well saturated morganite under 2 ct. Of course, there are exceptions like the 2 ct pear morganite in the same PI link I shared above.
 
Once you''ve seen a lot of gemstones it becomes more clear how prices are formed. Of course, reading some of numerous articles about judging gemstone quality that are available online will help a great deal. You can learn a lot about gems on sites such as www.gemstone.org or www.palagems.com . The later one has a "judging quality" section, as well as some buying guides. What you should be looking for is, first and foremost, the stone that speaks to you, and which you think you''ll love. That''s most important, cause even if a stone doesen''t meet the market''s criteria of what is most sought after, it''s good enough if you like it. Ideally, a morganite is somewhat of a tan colored stone, and the most prized ones are more orange than pink. Color should be pastel and delicate, but clearly obvious, while not having any brown or grey (desaturated) shades. Clarity should be very good (eye clean) and size generous, so that the nice color really comes out (I''d say at least 3-4 carats for a nice stone). Cut isn''t crucial, but since the stone is light in tone, it is quite important, and shouldn''t have large defects like big windows or lack of symmetry. So as long as the stone is lively and sparkly, and it doesen''t have areas that lack brilliance, it''s cut nicely. Well, I could go on for quite some time, but I think this would be enough to get you going
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thanks, guys! chrono, i see the paraiba stones are heat treated . . . is that okay?
 
The acceptability of heat treatment is very personal. It is up to you if you are fine with that. Morganite is sometimes heated to drive off the yellowish and/or orange tinge which will leave it with the more desirable pink colour.
http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/morganite.htm
 
Strongly saturated and clean morganites can be a bit difficult to find as compared to similar colors in tourmaline. You might want to look at tourmalines as well as morganite if you have a particular color in mind since it would broaden your available stone choices. The costs of either of these would be in the $100 to $300 per carat range for precision cut stones goods and maybe 1/2 that for stones which have been cut outside of the US or Europe. Asking what you should be looking for is very tough, as anyone answering may not have the same color preferences as you do. I would also suggest asking whichever suppliers you discuss this with to provide pictures in a variety of lighting conditions, as these paler stones can look great in some light and nearly colorless in others.
 
Date: 5/12/2010 12:51:25 PM
Author: ma re
What you should be looking for is, first and foremost, the stone that speaks to you
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I agree with this 100%. If you can find a talking stone, grab it !
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Date: 5/12/2010 12:53:35 PM
Author: Chrono
The video shows a decently saturated pink even though the picture shows a pale-ish pink.
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The reason that the video shows a stronger saturation is that the stone is tilted and those strong colors are originating from the sides of the stone. In this area you are seeing the light "bouncing" multiple times within the stone and finally exiting to your eyes after having traveled a much longer distance inside of the stone than light which just goes into and back out of the crown. It''s the same sort of effect that you find in pear shapes where the stones always look much more saturated in the tips. If you watch the video during the times when the stone is facing you, I think that you''ll get a more accurate idea of it''s color in a setting, (particularly a halo where you don''t get a very good look at the side of the stone).
 
Date: 5/12/2010 1:17:16 PM
Author: Michael_E

Date: 5/12/2010 12:53:35 PM
Author: Chrono
The video shows a decently saturated pink even though the picture shows a pale-ish pink.
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The reason that the video shows a stronger saturation is that the stone is tilted and those strong colors are originating from the sides of the stone. In this area you are seeing the light ''bouncing'' multiple times within the stone and finally exiting to your eyes after having traveled a much longer distance inside of the stone than light which just goes into and back out of the crown. It''s the same sort of effect that you find in pear shapes where the stones always look much more saturated in the tips. If you watch the video during the times when the stone is facing you, I think that you''ll get a more accurate idea of it''s color in a setting, (particularly a halo where you don''t get a very good look at the side of the stone).
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so i guess i can''t go by still pictures, eh? oy
 
Would you be interested in another pink stone, maybe a spinel?
 
Date: 5/12/2010 2:10:52 PM
Author: IndyLady
Would you be interested in another pink stone, maybe a spinel?
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Ha ha, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Saturated and morganite cannot be used in the same sentence, I'm afraid. I suspect the more saturated ones are treated (dont quote me on that), and they tend to fade in sunlight.
 
ok, what where can i get a good pink spinel? or a good pink morganite, if anyone knows?
 
Date: 5/12/2010 2:23:11 PM
Author: sruizaroo
ok, what where can i get a good pink spinel? or a good pink morganite, if anyone knows?
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How about a good durable pinks stone? If you want a sizable pink stone, I would stick with a tourmaline, since large (3+ carat) pink spinels are hard to come by and can be pricey. It appears you want a light pastel pink if you like morganite

Durable to semi-durable stones that come in pink are
spinel (very durable).
tourmaline (popular and affordable)
sapphire (although pricey)
diamond (if you''re rich)

Gene of precisinogem has some pink tourmaline. Barry of Acstones.com always seems to have some too. Both men are well priced if you''re on a budget.

Some pink stones shift to more orange color in certain lighting, including morganite, so that''s something to be aware of.
 
I love Morganites but they don''t love me! I appear to be Morganite coloured and they seem to disappear against my skin
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Although the one you posted the picture of appears to be very pink, they''re never quite as pink as Kunzites (almost but not quite) and so you may find that you don''t really love them in person. Have you actually tried one on to see how you feel?

Morganites come in a peachy/pink and a lilac/pink and can be nicely coloured but they can also be very pale. As TL has mentioned they can fade but they''re generally far more stable than Kunzite imo. At the end of the day, you need to buy one that you look at and fall in love with!

Here''s two of mine (4ct and 5ct) so you can see the differences in colour.
 
wow, pretty morganites! i think i prefer the lilac/pink color. where did you buy those, may i ask?
Date: 5/12/2010 3:21:30 PM
Author: LovingDiamonds
I love Morganites but they don''t love me! I appear to be Morganite coloured and they seem to disappear against my skin
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Although the one you posted the picture of appears to be very pink, they''re never quite as pink as Kunzites (almost but not quite) and so you may find that you don''t really love them in person. Have you actually tried one on to see how you feel?

Morganites come in a peachy/pink and a lilac/pink and can be nicely coloured but they can also be very pale. As TL has mentioned they can fade but they''re generally far more stable than Kunzite imo. At the end of the day, you need to buy one that you look at and fall in love with!

Here''s two of mine (4ct and 5ct) so you can see the differences in colour.
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I''m afraid I''ve had them for years and would have to search my records to see if I can find the vendor but won''t be able to do that until the weekend.

If I were you I''d look at the thread at the top of this part of the forum and look at the vendors listed. They probably also have stock that isn''t on their websites so worth sending an email or 10!!!

Here''s another picture of the heart which shows the colour a bit better and if it''s the colour you''re looking for then it''s a good idea when you email the vendors to show what you like. Far better than trying to describe your preferred colour!
 
Here is a peachy pink tourmaline that Barry cut for me. In RL I think it slightly darker but close to your inspiration picture. I would definitely contact barry to see if he has something that would match. he is extremely affordable and tourmalines won''t loose their color over time like Morganite will.

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Date: 5/12/2010 6:25:42 PM
Author: Sarahbear621
Here is a peachy pink tourmaline that Barry cut for me. In RL I think it slightly darker but close to your inspiration picture. I would definitely contact barry to see if he has something that would match. he is extremely affordable and tourmalines won''t loose their color over time like Morganite will.
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Thanks, Sarahbear621! I just emailed him. Thanks for the great advice! Have you set your stone yet?

Also, Lovingdiamonds, please don''t go nuts looking for your receipts and such for the morganites. . . . Did you ever set them? I looked you up on pricescope and my-oh-my do you have some lurrvvvllyyy jewelry! A girl after my own heart ;-)
 
Date: 5/12/2010 6:25:42 PM
Author: Sarahbear621
Here is a peachy pink tourmaline that Barry cut for me. In RL I think it slightly darker but close to your inspiration picture. I would definitely contact barry to see if he has something that would match. he is extremely affordable and tourmalines won''t loose their color over time like Morganite will.
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Hi Sarah,
Only in the interest of disseminating correct information, I believe you meant to state Kunzite where you stated Morganite? Morganite is not known to fade, but Kunzite does have a history of losing color when exposed to direct sunlight.
 
I thought Morganite faded too. Does anyone know for sure?
 
Barry at acstones currently has this stone available:

T-6503 Tourmaline
SKU: T-6503
T-6503 Tourmaline(J) 1.50 cts., 7.2mm round brilliant[Gec]. This Nigerian tourmaline was cut from a nodule and has a medium to medium-light pink color with a hint of lavender(a bit darker than the picture shows). It is very bright and flawless at 10x. BB



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Date: 5/13/2010 11:43:37 AM
Author: tourmaline_lover
I thought Morganite faded too. Does anyone know for sure?
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Hi TL,
In the GIA colored stone coursework it states that only Kunzite and Amethyst are known to "fade" when placed in "direct sunlight" for a period of time. I''ve attempted this for myself with one Kunzite and I can (unfortunately) validate that it is true for that species.

I have also attempted this with darker toned Amethyst over several weeks, but did not notice any change. Though it is possible that several weeks of Michigan summertime sunlight isn''t sufficient.

Morganite is safe.
 
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