Help with Asscher Decision

dougherty90 · Aug 12, 2024

Hi All,

I'm hoping you can help me. I have looked at (what feels like) 10,000 asscher cut diamonds and I think I've narrowed it down to two options. That said, I'm far from an expert and while I read Karl K.'s "Performance and the P3 Facets', I'm afraid most of it went over my head and so I thought I'd ask some real experts. Will you take a look at the following asschers and let me know if they are 'good' ones? I want a stone that is slightly warm in color.

Thanks in advance for your help! Mary

https://www.igi.org/verify-your-report/?r=632406230 and https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG632406230

https://www.igi.org/verify-your-report/?r=638491418 and https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG638491418

Karl_K · Aug 12, 2024

The 3.91 ticks me off flip it sideways see the huge steep pavilion first step?
Weight retention and it causes issues under tilt and less spread.
It looked very promising face up and I love the crown height.

The 3.99 cut is good and crystal should be eye clean.
Its worth an in person look.
Its treated cvd so pricing should be reasonable.(compare)

Karl_K · Aug 12, 2024

Neither is going to look tinted being F grade

dougherty90 · Aug 12, 2024

Karl_K said:
The 3.91 ticks me off flip it sideways see the huge steep pavilion first step?
Weight retention and it causes issues under tilt and less spread.
It looked very promising face up and I love the crown height.

The 3.99 cut is good and crystal should be eye clean.
Its worth an in person look.
Its treated cvd so pricing should be reasonable.(compare)

Okay-- this is likely a dumb question but option 1 is bad but option 2 is likely okay/worth a look? The stone is 1,285.00 -- does that seem like a fair price? Thanks for your help on this.

Karl_K · Aug 12, 2024

dougherty90 said:
Okay-- this is likely a dumb question but option 1 is bad but option 2 is likely okay/worth a look? The stone is 1,285.00 -- does that seem like a fair price? Thanks for your help on this.

I think you have that reversed but not at computer to check for sure..
Check the weight and go by that.
You can use the ps search engine to get a price range.

Ibrakeforpossums · Aug 12, 2024

I didn't read Karl's post as saying that option 1 is bad, just that the proportions annoyed him. Do you like it better?
If you like tint, start at G or H. You'll have lots of choices for less money.

dougherty90 · Aug 12, 2024

Thanks for your help with this -- I'm definitely suffering from analysis paralysis! I found these two Asschers that look promising. The other two I posted earlier evidently have windowing (according to the person I was chatting with at LGD). I have no idea how to tell if a diamond has windowing just by looking at a video.

Will you take a look and let me know if you think these are good ones?

https://www.igi.org/verify-your-report/?r=636497138 and https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG636497138

https://www.igi.org/verify-your-report/?r=636497139 and https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG636497139

Thanks! Mary

Ibrakeforpossums · Aug 12, 2024

I don't care for the 4.05, the 2nd one comes closer to the first two above. I like the first two the best, tho don't go by me.
If Karl says a diamond is worth a look, I would ignore/reject whatever I was told by a salesperson.

Karl_K · Aug 12, 2024

dougherty90 said:
Thanks for your help with this -- I'm definitely suffering from analysis paralysis! I found these two Asschers that look promising. The other two I posted earlier evidently have windowing (according to the person I was chatting with at LGD). I have no idea how to tell if a diamond has windowing just by looking at a video.

Will you take a look and let me know if you think these are good ones?

https://www.igi.org/verify-your-report/?r=636497138 and https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG636497138

https://www.igi.org/verify-your-report/?r=636497139 and https://loupe360.com/diamond/LG636497139

Thanks! Mary

Those are both far far worse than the first two.
Way to much dark zones that do not flash quickly.

joe2 · Aug 12, 2024

Media Links

Not warm, E. Not lively enough? Too much black? Crystal issues? Get expert input.
18.5 percent crown......

Karl_K · Aug 12, 2024

joe2 said:
https://www.medialink.email/v1/admin/[ATTACH=full]979477[/ATTACH]diamonds/86002814/non_orbit

Not warm, E. Not lively enough? Too much black? Crystal issues? Get expert input.
18.5 percent crown......

oh so close but way to much darkness at the edge of the table. They got greedy and ran the p1 facets to far down.
Sad very sad.

Ibrakeforpossums · Aug 13, 2024

joe2 said:
Media Links

Not warm, E. Not lively enough? Too much black? Crystal issues? Get expert input.
18.5 percent crown......

can you tell me where you found that? I'd like to see the video and correlate with Karl's comments.

Karl_K · Aug 13, 2024

Ibrakeforpossums said:
can you tell me where you found that? I'd like to see the video and correlate with Karl's comments.

Media Links

dougherty90 · Aug 13, 2024

Karl_K said:
Those are both far far worse than the first two.
Way to much dark zones that do not flash quickly.

I went back to the drawing board, did some homework, and found these -- I looked for stones without a lot of black, no treatment, and a decent sized crown. I'm learning as I go and I'm grateful for your guidance! I know I need to make the final call when I see the stones in person but I'm trying to avoid buying 4 or 5 stones at once!