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Okay we just prayed for the night. No mention of what he said earlier. Proud of me now?

But gosh, do you think that what he said means he has it? I mean, he said he didn''t BRING it. You can only BRING something you ACTUALLY HAVE.

Aye. I said no more of this tonight, didnt I?

Well, I did good for at least 45 minutes. That has to count for something.
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Okay really now, am I reading too much into that one little phrase he said tonight?
 
Enough girl..seriously. You just need to chill out. Enjoy the anticipation....it will be over before you know it.
 
Okay okay. I''m sorry. I''ll calm down on all the posting. Sorry about that. I go through phases. I''d actually been doing GREAT, say a week or so ago.

At least I''m not bugging the snot out of him about this stuff.

Odd as it may seem, I am totally enjoying the anticipation and stuff. Really. I can''t hardly wait! But I will. And I''ll try really hard to NOT talk about this stuff so much tomorrow.

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Fish, I am the same as you and think I would be thinking, he HAS it and just did not BRING it. Very logical, though he might NOT have it yet. Or has had it for months...so, just enjoy being together and know that since he has been talking to the parents you are in pretty good shape!!! Deep breaths...you have been doing so well...I bet when this is all over you will laugh and maybe show him this thread, which hopefully helped you hold it together!
 
Date: 6/8/2006 1:09:24 AM
Author: diamondfan
Fish, I am the same as you and think I would be thinking, he HAS it and just did not BRING it. Very logical, though he might NOT have it yet. Or has had it for months...so, just enjoy being together and know that since he has been talking to the parents you are in pretty good shape!!! Deep breaths...you have been doing so well...I bet when this is all over you will laugh and maybe show him this thread, which hopefully helped you hold it together!
I don't know that I'd go that far......we DO want them to make it to the altar.
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Does he know how nutty you REALLY are, fishy?
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He's probably been reading it all along, getting big kicks out of the drama I'm creating in my own head. Maybe he's been saying things just to get a rise out of me! I'm pretty sure the comment about getting the wrong size was specifically stated for throwing me off track.

Ah well, I'll know everything I need to know at some point. And I wish everyone a good night.

Haha, yep, he really does know how nuts I am, Mara. Crazy that the boy loves me like he does, but he fully knows what he's getting into with me. Most the time he finds it entertaining, until I take it to the point of making him all but nuts, too. I'm learning the boundaries with that, though. Slowly but surely.
 
Date: 6/8/2006 1:13:32 AM
Author: Mara

Date: 6/8/2006 1:09:24 AM
Author: diamondfan
Fish, I am the same as you and think I would be thinking, he HAS it and just did not BRING it. Very logical, though he might NOT have it yet. Or has had it for months...so, just enjoy being together and know that since he has been talking to the parents you are in pretty good shape!!! Deep breaths...you have been doing so well...I bet when this is all over you will laugh and maybe show him this thread, which hopefully helped you hold it together!
I don''t know that I''d go that far......we DO want them to make it to the altar.
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Does he know how nutty you REALLY are, fishy?
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Mara, LOL...you are likely right
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...maybe she could edit it for his viewing pleasure? At the very least he could get the sense that we talked her off the ledge and helped her maintain her eyes on the prize...so he could get busy and have a calm girlfriend in the meantime!
 
Fisher you are just too cute! I have read this entire thread and come here every day to read what''s going on with you and the other regulars on it, but I have never posted in this thread before. I am very much anticipating your engagement as I''m sure many people here are! It''s been so fun to read about Paul''s search for your diamond/ring (before you came onto the forum and he disappeared!) and now to read about your feelings on it and how things have been going with you two.

I agree, the way that he said "I didn''t bring it" would definitely have me suspicious that he DOES have it - i.e. it seems that if it was a quick response to you, that he wouldn''t have had the time to *think* about what he was going to say before he said it, so it would come out accurately. Does that make sense? Anyways, not that it matters girly, because, although I totally understand your desire to do so, you analyzing the comment isn''t going to make it any easier to wait for the proposal!!!
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Hang in there!!! I know the waiting and not knowing is killing you, but it sounds like it''s going to be so soon! We are all excited for you!
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Date: 6/8/2006 1:13:32 AM
Author: Mara

Date: 6/8/2006 1:09:24 AM
Author: diamondfan
Fish, I am the same as you and think I would be thinking, he HAS it and just did not BRING it. Very logical, though he might NOT have it yet. Or has had it for months...so, just enjoy being together and know that since he has been talking to the parents you are in pretty good shape!!! Deep breaths...you have been doing so well...I bet when this is all over you will laugh and maybe show him this thread, which hopefully helped you hold it together!
I don''t know that I''d go that far......we DO want them to make it to the altar.
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Does he know how nutty you REALLY are, fishy?
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OMG...Mara...you are too funny! Her guy was so eager to find the perfect diamond and have the perfect surprise for her. He really is wanting all the best and she''s making it hard
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. I''ve been there myself...have ruined many surprises even my own proposal
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Fish...try to relax. It''s coming and you don''t want to look back at this time and think about how if you would have just been calmer you would have had the romantic surprise that he wants for you. I regret how my proposal went only because my husband had all these lofty romantic ideas and I kept calling him out about them...asking him when, where, and I ended up ruining everything he wanted to do so it turned out ok but could have been so much more.
It won''t be long now and you''ll have that nice sparklie on your hand and you''ll be that much closer to marriage. Hang in there girl!
 
Date: 6/8/2006 11:44:55 AM
Author: Small

Date: 6/8/2006 1:13:32 AM
Author: Mara


Date: 6/8/2006 1:09:24 AM
Author: diamondfan
Fish, I am the same as you and think I would be thinking, he HAS it and just did not BRING it. Very logical, though he might NOT have it yet. Or has had it for months...so, just enjoy being together and know that since he has been talking to the parents you are in pretty good shape!!! Deep breaths...you have been doing so well...I bet when this is all over you will laugh and maybe show him this thread, which hopefully helped you hold it together!
I don''t know that I''d go that far......we DO want them to make it to the altar.
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Does he know how nutty you REALLY are, fishy?
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OMG...Mara...you are too funny! Her guy was so eager to find the perfect diamond and have the perfect surprise for her. He really is wanting all the best and she''s making it hard
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. I''ve been there myself...have ruined many surprises even my own proposal
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Fish...try to relax. It''s coming and you don''t want to look back at this time and think about how if you would have just been calmer you would have had the romantic surprise that he wants for you. I regret how my proposal went only because my husband had all these lofty romantic ideas and I kept calling him out about them...asking him when, where, and I ended up ruining everything he wanted to do so it turned out ok but could have been so much more.
It won''t be long now and you''ll have that nice sparklie on your hand and you''ll be that much closer to marriage. Hang in there girl!
YEP small that was totally me too. I was going nuts too...but privately since I''m not a huge sharer and also PS did not have a LIW section, I fear I would have truly gone nuts with all these other waiting gals around too then...but I was SO impatient I didn''t even give him a chance to do anything other than the basic lovely dinner at a fave restaurant the night he picked up the ring. I was like ''got the ring? got the ring?''. He told me ''well I was going to take you to Bernardus this weekend (this FAB carmel resort that we love) and do it there but you were so impatient''...I was liike DAMN!!!
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So seriously that is why I say CHILL OUT. You want to let him do his own thing and surprise you, I actually hate finding out surprises even though it feels like you have to know...everyone has been where you are now. Just stick it out and DISTRACT yourself!
 
Yeah, I hear you. I''m trying. Truly am. Haven''t mentioned a thing to him today about it, or any more last night, either.

Tonight I have a *date* with Caleb, my best friend''s 4 year old son. When I talked to her today about things, she was like, "girl. Come over tonight, we''ll play Uno and Caleb will chase you around the house." So, I''ll go see her and we''ll do a bit of scrapbooking, too, which always makes me happy and a little less frazzled.

And, my dad''s in Texas now. So, he''s getting closer. Yay! I''ve missed my dad. Even though we''ll be going home in July, it''s still good to know I''ll be seeing him in just a few days!

I know he''s been thinking hard about options for asking me and that he wants to fulfill the crazy romantic ideals I have in my head, so I''m trying to just know that what he''s said is true and that it won''t be this weekend, and probably not the one after, either. It''s okay. It''s coming. Soon. And I know I''ll be surprised when it does happen simply because I''ve been hoping and dreaming and breathing it for so long now.

Thanks for letting me just vent and ooze all my craziness out here. It''s really helped. At least I''ve had some level of sanity with Paul.
 
Good job Fish! I hope you have fun tonight, it sounds like a blast!
 
Nothing much to report tonight. I have behaved rather well all day, though. Surprising, isn't it? Paul did reveal to me, however, that Whiteflash will not be setting my diamond, that the vendor he chose for the setting will be. This is backwards from what I thought was planned, but I guess either way is fine. So, so much for the theory that he already had the ring in his posession. That'll teach me to go thinking I know things!
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Maybe that is also why he had to fax them, to let them know in writing with a signature, maybe, that it was okay to send the diamond to the other place. I don't know. Sounds as good as any other theory to me, anyway.
 
Oh, and I was wondering, when you said someone had the stone on hold, does that mean they ordered it, had it come to them, didn''t like it, and returned it? Or does that mean they had it put on hold to buy, but found one they liked better before the deal was done? I guess I''m just asking because well, I wonder why it was returned, if that''s what it means. I mean, I''m glad it was returned, if it was, because I am betting I''ll love the crud out of it. But yeah, it got my curiosity going today at work. Great time to be thinking about diamonds, huh?
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I didn''t know there was anything called "conflict diamonds." How can I know if mine is? I mean, are there any vendors here who don''t use conflict diamonds? Can they even know if their diamonds are conflict diamonds? Do any of you know if your diamond is a conflict diamond or not? How did you find out?
 
OK, I''ll repeat what Mara said (and say it in the nicest way). Chill out.
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Don''t over analyze the diamond too much and just enjoy the ride...you will be happy when it gives it to you...if you don''t drive both of you crazy first!
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Date: 6/8/2006 11:34:48 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
I didn''t know there was anything called ''conflict diamonds.'' How can I know if mine is? I mean, are there any vendors here who don''t use conflict diamonds? Can they even know if their diamonds are conflict diamonds? Do any of you know if your diamond is a conflict diamond or not? How did you find out?
Oh this is a huge HGUE thing over in ROcky Talky and something I have done some reading about. Only 2-3% of the sold diamonds are conflict diamonds so the possibility of you getting one is slim to none. There are now organizations that track diamonds to prove they are not conflict diamonds as well. Canadian diamonds are the best and most known about diamonds to be sure you don''t get one but according to some experts (which I don''t believe) there is a possibility someone is committing fraud. I will link you over there after you get your ring if you want. I am almost positive Paul hasn''t been on these threads but I think you aren''t supposed to go to Rocky Talky no matter what right? Let me know and I''ll do links if its ok. I know anchor bought a Canadian diamond and I have thought about it. Its a difficult choice. You can call WF after you know which one is yours
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and ask them if they have any info about this regarding your diamond. I know certain vendors also take personal precautions such as Tiffany''s who made a big deal out of it. So yeah, there''s the brief 411.
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Hey Fisher, I think if a diamond is on hold it just means that it's sitting in the store waiting for them. Not that they had it sent to them, cause then they would have had to pay for it. So I don't think anyone sent it back, but perhaps decided they wanted a different stone.

I'm glad you're distracting yourself Fishie! Keep doing it
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I just have to say that I'm so happy for you and Paul. I feel like I know you guys just from all your posts. It was so cute when Paul would come on here and talk about how he loved you so much. It really made every PS girl's heart melt to think about how lucky his girl was to have someone who loved her sooo much to do anything for her and want so much to make her his wife. Even research diamonds and settings!
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When you two finally get there it will be such a happy PS day
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Ok, now stop thinking about getting engaged and go do something else!
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Happy Friday! I just love Fridays and the two days that follow!

My dad''s in Tennessee now. Just made it across the Mississippi River and into the state. He''ll be in NC later today and at my Grandpa''s I guess this evening. We''ll see him tomorrow. Side note, a neighbor of my grandpa''s suspects things may have been broken into since I was there two weekends ago.
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Let''s hope not. Something about the chain and lock on the gate being gone.

Anyway, I have done really, really well and haven''t asked the boy anything! Yay for me! He did talk to my best friend on the phone last night to tell her what he''s thinking of as his backup plan, in case he has to use it. She apparently gave her approval, and won''t tell me a thing about it. Gotta love a good friend who can keep her mouth shut! I am excited for the surprise, and I''m not trying to mess that up. I just can''t get my mind off it, so that''s why I come here to post the ridiculous things circling in my mind.

Hope you all have a fabulous weekend!
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I sure do wish Paul was still posting because I think there are quite a few of us who''d be saying to him:

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!!!???
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How was the weekend fish?
 
The weekend was GREAT! I love spending time with my dad, and I totally adore seeing the way he and my Paul interact. It is so precious!

We had a wonderful counseling session, too. Paul LOVED it and even teared up during it *in the good way.* Afterwards he said he sure was happy to have been blessed with me, and that just grabbed my heart. The pastor told us to always remember that "we *get* to take care of one another''s hearts for the rest of our lives," and to remember the huge joy that comes with that, but also the responsibility that comes in that. Seriously, this has been a GREAT experience for us. We feel so much closer, more in tune with one another, and completely confident that we''re making a good choice in uniting as one.

Oooh, he also had the talk with my daddy!
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He was so nervous and kept trying to find time to talk to him away from me, and I think he ended up doing it while the two of them were working on putting a new dead bolt on the door. I guess that male bonding thing can happen anywhere, huh?

What''s even better is that he stayed until this morning and I took off work yesterday so we could have more time with my daddy! I love my boy! He even string trimmed a HUGE portion of my grandpa''s farm so my dad wouldn''t have to. He was a slow learner, but *so* precious in the process! My dad called me this afternoon to tell me what a good guy he thought Paul was and how much he thought of him and appreciated his considerate nature.

I love both of those men so much! And I''m so glad they get along. *My dad can be difficult at times.* Yay! They get along and joke and goof off and also share a few interests.

I won''t see Paul this weekend, most likely, because I''ll be with my dad and he''ll be with his, but he said he may come up to see me next week. He has the WHOLE summer off. Lucky boy.

Diamondseeker, how is your daughter doing, by the way? As to the what''s he waiting for thing, he''s waiting for the ring! They just got the diamond to set it and then because of the Las Vegas thing, they''re a little backed up. I''m hoping it happens sooner than the end of their timeframe, but Paul won''t tell me when he gets it, anyway!

Oooh, and Small, I wanted to ask you if you had any profile type pictures of your ring on your finger, since I *think* we''re going to have similar rings. Do you have a Roseco? If you have any pictures and could post, that''d be nice. Otherwise, I guess I''ll have to suck it up and see my own when I get it. I''m just wondering how high it sits up.

I hope you all had good weekends!
 
Hi Fisher!
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I know I haven''t posted much on the LIW thread lately but I do check the posts regularly!.

It''s great to hear you had a great weekend! I think you were freaking out for a second there but it looks like it all worked out and you sound very happy!
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For me...I just thought I was spending too much time here...sitting and waiting....and realized that wasn''t making anyone happy!. So I''ve been busy! I joined flamenco dance classes and I''m looking into going back to school to get a Master''s...I''ve also been exercising more and started putting together a beautiful recipe book
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I''m still happy with my BF and very much in love. The only difference is that he knows the ball is on his court now. I''m done dropping hints...or whatever....he either sounds and acts as excited as I am *was* (am, I guess) or I don''t know where we''ll end up!. But, for now, I''m happy...in love and still looking forward to a life with him!.

I guess that trip back home just really changed my attitude. I think in a positive way though
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Anyway...sorry for the thread-jacking!. Just wanted to chek in...let you know I''m happy for ya and I''m still around!
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M~
 
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Hey Mandarine!

I''m so glad you''re doing well. Isn''t it crazy how quickly mindsets can change? Yeah, it is easy to get overly involved in trying to figure out or *help* a boy get his stuff lined up and planned out. I know I was going over board before, but I was just so excited. I still am.

Maybe just him talking to my dad *and by extension, my mom* and his parents is enough excitement for me to go off of today. Maybe seeing my own family for the weekend was good. Who knows. Oh, and a great counseling session and just really feeling affirmed in the choices we''re making is good and settling, too. Even though we didn''t worry over it, but still hearing that we''re paired well is a good thing, you know?

Mandarine, I''m also proud of you *and a little envious* of you being able to just step back and find other things to take up your mind. I try, but it overwhelms me at times. Flamenco dancing. I had a Spanish teacher in high school who was obsessed with it! She was well in her 60s, maybe even 70s, and she''d do these little miniature recitals on the Fridays we were caught up with her lesson plans. So funny to watch her, and to see how involved she was in it. She was quite a performer as a young woman, and the stories she''d tell about it could take up the entire class period. We LOVED those days!
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I am a little disappointed that the setting of the diamond could potentially take so long, if that''s really true. I guess I don''t have a clue how much time is really involved. I mean, I want it done right and well and not rushed, so I''ll trust that it does take time and that everyone who''s in line before Paul deserves the same!

I''m glad you had a good time with your family. Family rocks, huh? How''s your doggie? Mine''s sleeping wedged between me and the chair. I just love her! Her puppy breath, not so much!
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Hi!...

It sounds like Paul has everything under control....so you should try to relax so you look wonderful when the day does come!
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My mind change wasn''t something I thought I needed......it just happenned! I don''t know how or why....but it just did. At first it made me a little sad because I thought maybe I was just getting cold feet, but I now I''m not...I just need for things to happen without me feeling like I put any pressure. It''s just his turn I guess. I got tired of dropping hints, waiting to see how he reacts, studying his moves to see if the moment was close, etc....and then sending most of my nights (and days!) sitting here.

Don''t get me wrong. I still love to come around to PS everyday and I think think about wanting to be with him for the rest of my life, but my life is not stopping until that happens...and I think that it had for a couple of months.

Anyway...

I should go get ready for work....and yayyyyyy, today Spain plays!!!! (soccer)....

M~
 
Date: 6/13/2006 6:29:29 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
The weekend was GREAT! I love spending time with my dad, and I totally adore seeing the way he and my Paul interact. It is so precious!

We had a wonderful counseling session, too. Paul LOVED it and even teared up during it *in the good way.* Afterwards he said he sure was happy to have been blessed with me, and that just grabbed my heart. The pastor told us to always remember that ''we *get* to take care of one another''s hearts for the rest of our lives,'' and to remember the huge joy that comes with that, but also the responsibility that comes in that. Seriously, this has been a GREAT experience for us. We feel so much closer, more in tune with one another, and completely confident that we''re making a good choice in uniting as one.

Oooh, he also had the talk with my daddy!
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He was so nervous and kept trying to find time to talk to him away from me, and I think he ended up doing it while the two of them were working on putting a new dead bolt on the door. I guess that male bonding thing can happen anywhere, huh?

What''s even better is that he stayed until this morning and I took off work yesterday so we could have more time with my daddy! I love my boy! He even string trimmed a HUGE portion of my grandpa''s farm so my dad wouldn''t have to. He was a slow learner, but *so* precious in the process! My dad called me this afternoon to tell me what a good guy he thought Paul was and how much he thought of him and appreciated his considerate nature.

I love both of those men so much! And I''m so glad they get along. *My dad can be difficult at times.* Yay! They get along and joke and goof off and also share a few interests.

I won''t see Paul this weekend, most likely, because I''ll be with my dad and he''ll be with his, but he said he may come up to see me next week. He has the WHOLE summer off. Lucky boy.

Diamondseeker, how is your daughter doing, by the way? As to the what''s he waiting for thing, he''s waiting for the ring! They just got the diamond to set it and then because of the Las Vegas thing, they''re a little backed up. I''m hoping it happens sooner than the end of their timeframe, but Paul won''t tell me when he gets it, anyway!

Oooh, and Small, I wanted to ask you if you had any profile type pictures of your ring on your finger, since I *think* we''re going to have similar rings. Do you have a Roseco? If you have any pictures and could post, that''d be nice. Otherwise, I guess I''ll have to suck it up and see my own when I get it. I''m just wondering how high it sits up.

I hope you all had good weekends!
Fish,
I do have some profile shots and will post them in SMTR section. I have a thread going right now because I just got a new camera so I wanted to take some pictures of the ring. I do have the roseco cathedral and love it. It sits a bit higher than what I was used to but I really love how it makes the diamond stand out and it definitely makes it look bigger than it actually is
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I''ll let you know when I post them...probably this afternoon sometime when the kids are napping
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Oh Small! I just adore it! Thanks for posting. I''m going gaga over it. Is it comfortable to wear? Do you have any problems with the diamond sliding to the sides of your fingers? I guess a particular setting isn''t to blame for that as much as a finger''s tendency to change size due to temperature. Mine change a lot, I guess, because it seems like my rings are forever spinning.

Let me just say again, it''s BEAUTIFUL!!
 
Because Paul has promised that he doesn''t come around here anymore, and because he is much less sneaky than I am, I am going to post a link to the gift I plan to give him on the day we get engaged. I''ve also written him a letter for that precious moment.

Here it is:

http://images.thingsremembered.com/s7ondemand/zoom/dhtml_zoom.jsp?company=ThingsRemembered&sku=000545015

It says it''s great for traditionalists. My Paul will love it! I''m thinking of having it engraved with the words, "Let''s cherish each moment" then after I know the day we got engaged, I''ll take it and have the day engraved in it, too. I think. I don''t know really. I plan on getting it on Friday, so I''ll be ready whenever he asks.

It also has a slot for a picture to be inserted into the inside cover, which I think I might put a picture in to give to him, but then I think it''d be cute to change that out and put one in of the day we get engaged.

I''m so glad he likes this sort of sentimental stuff. I just love it and knowing that he''ll appreciate the thought makes the whole thing so much fun. *It also gives me something to think about and do instead of pondering if my diamond''s made it''s way into the ring yet, too!*
 
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