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We talked last night. The initial response I got from Paul is what made me sad and upset. He was only reacting that way not because he doesn''t want me to spend time with my dad (he loves him, too), but because he was thinking about the weekends to come and the plans he has for engaging us. Anyway, he said he has backup plans and that nothing will put it off any longer and he doubts that once he has the ring he''ll be able to go any longer than 7 days without offering it to me as his future wife. So that was sweet.

We also talked about my going down on Friday still, and having counseling on Saturday morning as planned, and then going to see my dad. That''s a good plan and we both think it will be a great one.

I just was sad to think that he''d react so grry about my dad coming. Anyway, he is happy to be able to have *the talk* with him in person.

Anyway, thanks for your comments and thoughts, girls. We overcome every time a conflict comes up. He knows where I''m coming from, and I know where he is, too. And I don''t want him to have to change his plans for our engagement (I think he was planning on Tybee Island), but he says he has back up plans that are just as good, and would be more of a surprise. So, that makes me happy, too. I was feeling bad to be sad that my dad was coming, because it''d put off our engagement. Made me feel like a selfish, self-centered brat of a girl.

Things are better now. Thanks girls!!
 
I am glad you talked about things, I knew you two would
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I think all of PS is beginning to anticipate your engagment as much as you are hehehe.

K was being to ridiculous and silly last night. We got on the subject of dogs and how badly I want a puppy and he does too. Then he started sayng that we should name our dog his nickname so that when I call the name both the dog and he will come running
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! I said I couldn''t because not only would that be ridiculous but what would I do when the dog died and I had to call my mom and tell her the news? (She knows his nickname since I use it all the time) My mom of course sided with him which she always does. Does anyone else see this as a problem? Not the dog name but the fact my mom always sides with K against me. Well most of the time but not always I guess. Its so annoying!
 
Thanks for the comments again. I am so anxious and just ready to be engaged, and yeah. Today''s been a better day. It would help, though, if Paul wouldn''t drop elusive comments and then say, "oops, I shouldn''t have said that." Or something similar. Like today, we were talking and he said he had to go do something "special." Of course that''s going to make me wonder what that special something is! It ended up he had to fax something to Whiteflash. I have no idea what that means, because well, now I wonder what he had to fax them. See, always thinking. Argh!

I just think it''s funny that he says he wants everything to be a surprise, but he continues to make comments and then tries to retract them. He knows I''ll pick up on them, and then want to question him more and more. It''s just funny. To me anyway.
 
But really, what would a person have to fax them? I mean, they have email. Now I''m all into trying to figure out things. Hmm.
 
He probably had to fax over his credit card/drivers license copy thing to them if he is not paying with a Wire Transfer then he has to do that.
 
Date: 6/7/2006 6:11:00 PM
Author: Mara
He probably had to fax over his credit card/drivers license copy thing to them if he is not paying with a Wire Transfer then he has to do that.
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Yep, I had to do the same thing with Signed Pieces when paying by cc.
 
Oh! Thanks, Mara. I thought he''d already paid for it. Hmmm. Well at least it''s an answer, so I can stop trying to figure out what in the world he''s doing.
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I''m still not sure if he went with the curvy cathedral or the abazias ring. I think I know, but then I *think* I know a lot of stuff.
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Now I need to just try NOT to ask him if he did the bank wire thing or not. Hmm. I guess that could mean that diamond I thought he got, he may not have gotten. Especially since I thought he got it on May 26th, and now it''s almost 2 weeks later.
 
that stone was actually on hold from our visit to TX from early may as alj was considering it for her pendant. it just showed up on the search again early last week i think (i saw it suddenly), and then was gone again. so i don''t know if that is the one he got as the timing seems off from when it went off hold to when it was sold again?? but i''m not sure. so don''t quote me.
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i know WF is getting in a ton of stones in that .50-70ish range as i asked about one for a bangle bracelet (and was considering that .54)..but i think those don''t come for another week or so.

hmmmmm.
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Did you get to see it in person, Mara? Was it pretty? I really, really, really thought he got it. Hmm. Maybe my thinking it''s all almost done was WAY off base. I''ve not even looked at stones any more since I thought he got that one.
 
I remember it was up on the 24th, first time I''d seen it. And I warned Paul that at that price, it''d be gone soon. Then that night, it was sold. He said that wasn''t necessarily a bad thing. I thought that meant it was in the bag!
 
we did see it, along with 2-3 other stones, but i really don''t even remember which was which. they were all really pretty. the one that alj chose for her pendant wasn''t even one of the ones she thought she''d like, and it wasn''t the one *I* chose for her out of the 4 we saw!! just goes to show that there''s no rhyme or reason on visuals. but i do remember them all being stunning and choosing just one was like YEAH RIGHT oh okay this one! hehee. but i think any of them would have been fab.

they don''t have much right available right now in that range...so maybe he DID get that one...just not sure about the timing. he could have put it on hold right after it popped back up on the site or something early last week. i don''t think that WF requires payment til they are about to ship. so maybe it was set and is ready to ship and that is why he is faxing/paying.

gosh all this speculation!!! haha. do you think maybe he wanted to propose to you this weekend and is bummed that your dad''s visit foiled his plan? just a thought.
 
Well, I thought about that, too. And that''s why I asked him specifically if he wanted me to be there this weekend, for the entire weekend. He said no. He''s been telling me that it won''t be ready until next week or the week after, but ever hopeful me was *hoping* he said that to make me think it wouldn''t be this weekend, so it''d be a surprise. So, I really don''t have anything but speculation and the stuff swirling around in my head to think about. In case you can''t tell, I do this on the regular.
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So, now, just in case it is his plan to surprise me, I''m planning on taking a half day off on Friday, so I''ll be to his house before it''s really late. Then we''ll have that night to do stuff, and then on Saturday, we''ll do counseling and either me or me and him will go see my dad.

It did surprise me he was so grry about my dad coming. So it does make me think it relates in some way to the proposal. And *if* you''re right and the faxing thing happens before shipping, I''m about to pee my pants here!

But then it could mean that he just bought the diamond and I have no idea which one it is, but I really don''t think he''d lie and he did say the diamond I thought he got was a pretty one and that he''d asked all sorts of questions about it and that he *had it taken care of.*

Ahh. The circles my mind''s going in.
 
So it''s pretty, even if you can''t remember which one it was. At least you didn''t think, "gah, that one''s ugly." That would have stuck out in your mind. Yay! I have worried a tiny bit that it''d be yellowish, so knowing someone here''s really *seen* it makes me happy. Even if it isn''t mine. But I still feel like it is.

I have no clue how I''m going to refrain from asking him about this. Luckily, he''s at his parents'' right now and I''d feel like a fool calling him to ask about this stuff. Maybe by the time he''s home, the moment will have passed and I''ll be calmer. Just maybe.
 
no it was definitely not yellow nor was it GAH! heheee....i thought they were all beautiful!!
 
Oh YaY! I *so* hope he got it. This is almost killing me!
 
Hmm. I seriously am nuts. I''m trying to rack my brain and think back to the stones we''d been thinking about. One of them was an ACA, the others were Expert Selection, and I think two of them were posted at 1057. One of those is sold, I believe, but the other is still posted. Maybe he got that one. But what an odd coincidence that on the day I warn him it''ll sell, only two days after being posted *or maybe three* it was gone again, like within hours. The same day he talked to Whiteflash again, no less.

DooDooDoo....
 
Date: 6/7/2006 6:57:11 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Oh YaY! I *so* hope he got it. This is almost killing me!
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Fishie, noooo, don''t let it kill you!!!!
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hehe. You''ll be alright. Just take deep breathes
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I think your wait here is almost over though!
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Okay, I printed off that stone in particular because it was my favorite *because it''s a J and because that''s my first inital and because it was the least expensive in its size* and that was the first day I saw it posted, and believe me, I was searching their site regularly, what with so many we loved selling before he bought them, and that was on the 24th of May. It may have been posted on the 23rd or so, but I doubt it was up without my seeing it before then.

I really really am thinking hard here. hee hee... he''d have a fit to know I''m going through this instead of just letting things "flow naturally." If only he knew.
 
New thought: maybe he did get the stone back on the 26th and also had the ring portion ordered and sent to whiteflash to be set, but then he had to fax them that information in order to get my ring sized, since he told me yesterday that he''d ordered it about 2 sizes too big. Why, I don''t know, since he''s always talking about my little fingers.

Sorry guys. I''m sure you don''t really care to know every thought as it crosses my mind. I''ll try to stop this insanity now.
 
Eek! All of this not telling me something, yet telling me something comments are going to be the cause of my permanent insanity! So, only because *he* brought it up, I mentioned things discussed on here regarding faxing. He assured me that the reason he waited an extra two months to do this was because he was determined not to create debt, so he didn''t use a credit card. So much for that theory.

He also told me that I need to stop trying to *dig information out of the nice forum people.* Then he said that he already knew the diamond was pretty, and to just trust him. I asked him if he''d seen it in REAL life, and he slid off topic. Then he slammed back to topic to say, "I won''t have it this weekend, just remember that and don''t get all worked up about it, girl."

Hmm. I''m SO suspicious right now. Ack!!!
 
you are going to go insane!! i feel bad for your bf too...hee hee.

quit it and go for a walk or something...!!
 
I was just about to say the same thing, Mara! Fisher, you need to take a break and GET OUT girl! You''re going to drive yourself insane...try to relax and let it happen when it''s meant to happen. If nothing else, take a break from PS for a couple hours.
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Or, just think of how lucky you are because some of us girls aren''t exactly close to engagement because it''s not logical yet (ie Me.) I cannot wait to marry my honey too, but we both know it''s not reasonable to get engaged for at least another year due to grad school and his recent move for his job. It''ll happen for you soon, and you have to allow yourself to be absolutely thrilled about that. Relax, and let us know how it goes. =)
 
Yeah, I have a problem with trying to pull out things I shouldn''t know. I''m a surprise finder and figure-outter. Or at least I try.

As for feeling bad for him, I do, too. He brings up stuff and then retracts it. He does get frustrated, but he also enjoys dangling pretty much useless fragments of information over me.

Oh, I am thrilled. I''ve been in hyper excitement mode for a good while now. I just want to know stuff I can''t know yet. He told me tonight that after he asks me, he''ll give me a fully detailed list of everything he did and what every elusive comment has been linked to.

He also made it sound a lot like he''s seen the diamond himself, which I didn''t even mention. The boy brings a lot of this on himself. However, I am trying to remember that this surprise thing is really important to him and I want to allow him to have that. But I really don''t think broken chunks of information is getting me anywhere closer to knowing much of anything. Which is just how I think he planned it! The booger! Gosh, I love him, though. He sounds so amused with himself here lately.
 
Okay, it''s too dark here to walk now. But, I will get off the craziness topic.

Have any of you used Jergens Natural Glow? I got some last night and I''m so excited to see if my white as anything legs get even a tiny pigment of color to them. A few friends have used it and like it. And they''ve seen color change, but neither of them are anywhere as WHITE as me.
 
Fisher, this is exactly why I don''t want to have any clue when it''s coming, because I''d be absolutely batty also. But, M has said that I''ll know because he''ll be too excited and he can''t keep a secret anyway. Cute boy. I love him so much. =)

I used that Jergens lotion last year off and on. I used it mostly on my legs because my face and arms get burned no matter what I do, and then sometimes look tan when the sun makes even more freckles pop up, but my legs get nothing. I become Red Lobster, nothing else. You have to continually use it to see the results, at least on me anyway, and the thing I didn''t like is the color would be darker on my knees than anywhere else. I always thought my knees were dirty. Last year though they only made it for 2 skin tones, now they have 3. I''m wondering if the new "light" version will be better for me than the "light/medium" version I have. We''ll see, other brands have similar things. Anyway, I still have it and I''m going to start using it again now that it''s warmer and shorts will be worn more often. =)
 
Yeah, I have the fair version. It doesn''t look to have much pigment maker in it. But I''ve never used anything like this before. I thought Paul''d like my legs to be darker, since I never wore skirts or anything shorter than my calves much before I met him, and well, I thought he''d like it. When I told him about it this week, though, he was like, I love your white legs, though! Go figure!!

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he loves me just as I am. How sweet!

I would like a surprise, I really would. With me, though, they rarely happen. Not when I know what I want and that someone else wants it, too. I''ve been an eager girl over this whole thing since December when he asked me if I''d like to be his wife some day. I was in the mode from that moment on *at least openly. I''d been hoping and thinking about it before then!*
 
I completely understand sweetie! M has been saying he can''t wait to marry me (and me him) since the fall. My sweetie and I love eachother the way we are too, and that''s so important imo. Let''s face it, we''re not gonna get any hotter as we age! ;)
 
Haha. We''re not? Well dang! If this is as good as it gets, I''m in a world of trouble! Seriously, though, that''s one of my favorite things about our relationship. We''re totally comfortable with being exactly who we are with one another. It''s such a blessing to be loved just as you are, you know?

He still makes me laugh when he''ll say something about how impatient I can be at times. It always starts out like this, "I love you to pieces, honey, but..." and I always know what''s coming.
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Okay okay, I know I'm making all of you as nuts as I am, but I have to post this last thing for the night. He went to see his brother and his parents tonight and he told me he'd basically spelled out for his parents that he plans to ask me to be his wife soon, but not necessarily when, because he thinks his mom will be too excited and she'll spill some information next time we talk. *I just love her, by the way.* So, he got their blessing, I guess you could say. I asked if they'd seen the ring, and I MEANT a picture of it's prettiness, or what we hope for it to look like all put together (thanks to one of you smart people on here), and he said, and this is a direct quote, "No, I didn't bring it."

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!!!!!!

Does that imply then that he actually HAS it? As in, in his posession? Hot diggity dog!

OH my dear goodness! Holy flippin cow! Oh boy oh boy!!!

You would be proud of me though, because I didn't say anything about that comment, and he didn't either. Maybe he meant he didn't bring it because he doesn't have it. Heck, I don't know. At this point, I get elated over anything I hear him say. But I do know that was a direct quote. And he didn't retract it, either. Maybe hoping I didn't catch what he really said, maybe because I didn't jump all over it, maybe because he really doesn't have it and saying he didn't bring it was faster to say than he didn't have it to show them. I don't know.

But even if it's nothing, gosh it's fun to dream!

Yippeee! Heehee.
 
Oh geeze fish you are killing me tonight! I am about to watch a movie so I won''t say too much. But a small tip about the tanning lotion. Put a layer of regular lotion on your knees, elbows, and hands and then apply a layer of the tanning lotion over everything. Because those parts of the body have dryer skin it soaks up more lotion and more color. And oh how I do love the way a man loves you exactly the way you are no matter what! That is one of the best things between K and I!
 
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