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Date: 6/2/2009 3:39:24 PM
Author: victoria83
I appreciate what you are saying but he hasn''t once said to me he NEVER wants to get married, and yes I am prepared to wait around as his girlfriend until that day happens, but I wont wait forever. Yeah he is my first serious partner and vice versa, sometimes I wonder if things would have been different if we dated other people before, but I like the fact that I am still with my first love. We actually did break up a few years into the relationship, for about 4 months. I tried dating other men but found them to be immature, overly-sensitive, childish and controlling, no matter what their age. It might not seem like it from my first post but I have found someone really special in him and I do not want to let that go.
Actually my friend told her all the time he wasn''t ready but wanted it someday.. I told HER that meant he never wanted to marry her. They also broke up, after 2 years of dating. They were broken up for 6 months. The reasons they broke up - were never fixed. They reason they got back together, she loved him.. and he couldn''t find anyone better. They stayed together another 5 years. At one point they went ring shopping and talked about it more fervently, he told her he was ready... that was at year 5 total... another 2 years.. and still nothing... til he dumped her. Now I realize fully this is my friend, and NOT YOU. But here is the thing, I had to talk to my friend with white gloves... because she couldn''t TALK about it... and they talked together, and she thought everything was going okay.. just that he wasn''t ready to marry her. She was OKAY waiting. They WERE happy together... they didn''t fight, or have issues, apart from this really. You are here talking about your relationship, and seeking honesty, which is something my friend did... but she wasn''t willing to listen. I''m not telling you to leave him... no where close to that. But take sometime to figure out your dynamics.

Why did you break up in the first place? Have you honestly dealt with those issues, and have changes been made? or did you find you just missed him, and in comparison, everyone else you dated - just wasn''t as good?

I realise you love him, it comes through in this message in full power. Perhaps instead of discussing marriage with him, you could try discussing what it is that you love about each other, what it is that you cherish. I''m not sure avoiding the topic of marriage alltogether for any length of time really helps though... because I feel it should be an open dialogue.

But I really wouldn''t take my advice. I''m honestly a snarly person. I may have a giant chip on my shoulder, but I do honestly believe everyone and I mean EVERYONE with the exception of my mother is replace-able. Now this comes across a lot harsher than I intend, but I mean it - I have loved on many different dynamics, passion, emotional love, friend love - etc. And I accept that all relationships have a life line.. sometimes things die, like a metaphor for the relationship in addition to life itself... a friend leaves, you make new ones, a lover leaves you get a new one, etc. I think for me that acceptance that every relationship has its own course really helped me get over the loss of friends, loves, family members... and at my snarliest - you bet I told my now DH that I would leave him if he tried to keep me waiting. I meant it when I said I would leave too... and the actual THREAT (yup this chick did threaten her loved one) I gave him was that since we still lived together if he didnt propose I''d bring dudes over and mess the sheets. I meant that. I knew I had the capacity to love again... I also had the confidence in myself that I knew I could date another guy and find another great guy out there... I knew I wouldn''t be devastated without him. I would be heartbroken, sad, and horribly depressed, but I''d still go on. Yes I love my husband and I love him very much, but his excuse was MONEY to buy the ring... and I wasn''t willing to wait around for that, because there are rings out there for $.25 so I''d only buy THAT excuse for so long... and I''d be walking. I only tell you this, because my theory though harsh, has helped me to weed out losers and toxic friends as well as deal with loss and grief. It isn''t to get you to dump your man or behave like I do... trust me... people know what they are getting into when they are a lover/friend of mine... I lay it all out there and give it all I got from the get-go. But you have to be true to yourself. That is my point. WHO ARE YOU? How do you handle things? What is your style? Be yourself, don''t be ME or anyone else -- but take some time to figure that out - because you need to know who you are WITHOUT him - if that makes sense. You need two wholes to make a solid pair in marriage... not two halves to make a whole.

I wish you the best. I honestly do. HUGS!
 
Great post Rivkah....It sounds like you aren''t willing to take any $h!t.
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Good for you for being so aware of what you''re getting yourself into. So many girls ignore the signs in the hope that THEY can be the one who changes their BFs minds. Doesn''t typically work that way.
 
Date: 6/2/2009 6:34:59 PM
Author: luckystar112
Great post Rivkah....It sounds like you aren''t willing to take any $h!t.
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Good for you for being so aware of what you''re getting yourself into. So many girls ignore the signs in the hope that THEY can be the one who changes their BFs minds. Doesn''t typically work that way.



If anyone thinks they can truly change someone, they are deluded! You can offer guidance, but that''s it.
 
Just a quick update, I haven''t had a talk to my bf about marriage as he seems to be really down at the moment. He is very quiet and doesn''t seem interested in anything. The other night he was almost crying in bed, I asked what was wrong he said "lots of things", "I need a change" and "I have everything I have ever wanted and I''m still not happy". I thought this sounded like he was going to break up with me but he assured me he wasn''t. He is working away this week and seems a lot better on the phone, but I am going to leave bringing up marriage for the time being.
 
oh wow, i hope he''s ok, he sounds rather down and out right now
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glad he''s starting to do better though, and i hope you both can figure out what triggered this sadness of his. i''m very glad he''s not having one of those complete mental crises where he''s going to think about breaking up with you, that''s definitely a good sign. do you two have a chance to take a vacation or a small weekend get-away any time soon? i''m sure you''d love to see him relaxed and interested in things even more than he probably does.
hugs!
i''ll be praying that this is just a very very temporary funk he''s in and that he gets back to being happy soon!!
 
Date: 6/9/2009 5:21:37 PM
Author: Squirrly
oh wow, i hope he''s ok, he sounds rather down and out right now
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glad he''s starting to do better though, and i hope you both can figure out what triggered this sadness of his. i''m very glad he''s not having one of those complete mental crises where he''s going to think about breaking up with you, that''s definitely a good sign. do you two have a chance to take a vacation or a small weekend get-away any time soon? i''m sure you''d love to see him relaxed and interested in things even more than he probably does.
hugs!
i''ll be praying that this is just a very very temporary funk he''s in and that he gets back to being happy soon!!
I think it''s a mixture of the arguments we''ve had, and problems at work (his job is quite stressful, plus the company has been taken over and they are starting to let people go so he is worried about his own job). On top of that he now has man-flu! We''re looking into a weekend away or two in the next few months, nowhere too far cos we''re hoping our 3 week tour of China will be going ahead this September.
 
i''d all but forgotten how soon you two were going to china, i hope that''s still on too. i''m glad you''re able to keep track of all the stressors, i hope he''ll realize what all it is too. good luck on finding a way to steal away for a weekend or two! i hope he doesn''t end up passing his man-flu to you
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