Hmm... Which one to cut - Umbalite or Mayala lovelys

[Brown.Eyed.Girl]

Date: 2/3/2009 4:27:06 PM
Author: cinnamon013

Date: 2/3/2009 2:54:38 PM

Author: Brown.Eyed.Girl



Ohh I see. Hmm I don''t think I''ve ever seen that before - it could look really gorgeous! Do you have any example pics?

No, but I''m going to start hunting tonight!

Awesome! I hope you find some great examples! I like InnerKitten''s idea of engraving too - that would be really pretty!

 

[cinnamon013]

I am so excited! I opted for the umbalite garnet. I''ve asked Gene to make it 7mm. It will be the same cut as the malaya shown above. He calls it star 80.

Yippeee! Happy birthday to me!

 

[cinnamon013]

Date: 2/3/2009 3:00:53 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover

Really?? Hmm, last I asked he couldn''t cut me an umbalite cushion, or is he going to cut you an umbalite in the same shape as the round? I hope you get one and post pics.

He said that he hasn''t worked out a cushion design yet for the umbalite. In order to make a cushion, he''d need to make it deeper, and that would darken the stone. He wants to keep it light and bright and the round works well for that.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 2/3/2009 11:56:21 AM
Author: cinnamon013

Date: 2/3/2009 10:54:14 AM
Author: arjunajane
As a new owner of a Gene umbalite, I am seriously biased and vote for the umbalite!

I really like that star malaya too, but for me the colour of the garnets he has is killer - I'm tempted to get another, lol..

So where's pictures of your umbalite? I'd love to see it but must have missed the post.

Hi cinnamon..
here's Gene's pic:

And one of mine - I asked to have it in the cushion, which I really love. As you can see its a lil more dark/purple than what you're after, but was exactly what I wanted.

Here's the thread with lots of pics: umbalite cushion


ETA: hrmm.just saw the post above - trust me, he can do an umbalite cushion! (although I think he may prefer not to as like you said it darkens the stone). I personally think mine turned out great, not too dark at all.

 

[T L]

Gaaaa Gaaaa

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 2/3/2009 8:00:04 PM
Author: tourmaline_lover
Gaaaa Gaaaa

Tee Hee, thanks TL - may I ask, how long ago was it that Gene said he couldn''t do the cushion?

I saw this design in his blog and knew I had to have it!

 

[PrecisionGem]

The cut effects the tone a lot on these garnets. The stone with the frosted star is the exact same material as the cushion way at the top of this thread. What will brighten up a garnet is larger facets, and fewer of them, and also a more shallow cut stone. The frosted star stone is deep, because it needs to be to get the star in there. If you are looking for more of the pink color, and lighter stone, then you don''t want a cushion, because most cushion cuts require a barion, which again deepens the pavilion.

I had one deep very lighter stone, that I bought with the intent of cutting an Asscher, but ended up cutting it this week with a frosted diamond shape. This stone is being given as a gift to Neil Diamond this week at the Grammy Awards dinner Friday night. It''s a one of kind stone that will not be duplicated.

 

[T L]

Date: 2/3/2009 9:33:17 PM
Author: PrecisionGem
The cut effects the tone a lot on these garnets. The stone with the frosted star is the exact same material as the cushion way at the top of this thread. What will brighten up a garnet is larger facets, and fewer of them, and also a more shallow cut stone. The frosted star stone is deep, because it needs to be to get the star in there. If you are looking for more of the pink color, and lighter stone, then you don''t want a cushion, because most cushion cuts require a barion, which again deepens the pavilion.

I had one deep very lighter stone, that I bought with the intent of cutting an Asscher, but ended up cutting it this week with a frosted diamond shape. This stone is being given as a gift to Neil Diamond this week at the Grammy Awards dinner Friday night. It''s a one of kind stone that will not be duplicated.

No fair, Neil Diamond isn''t a PS''er!! Is he???? Well he does have a gemmy last name. Ha!

 

[Fly Girl]

Date: 2/3/2009 9:33:17 PM
Author: PrecisionGem
The cut effects the tone a lot on these garnets. The stone with the frosted star is the exact same material as the cushion way at the top of this thread. What will brighten up a garnet is larger facets, and fewer of them, and also a more shallow cut stone. The frosted star stone is deep, because it needs to be to get the star in there. If you are looking for more of the pink color, and lighter stone, then you don''t want a cushion, because most cushion cuts require a barion, which again deepens the pavilion.

I had one deep very lighter stone, that I bought with the intent of cutting an Asscher, but ended up cutting it this week with a frosted diamond shape. This stone is being given as a gift to Neil Diamond this week at the Grammy Awards dinner Friday night. It''s a one of kind stone that will not be duplicated.

Sounds awesome! Pictures????

 

[Brown.Eyed.Girl]

Date: 2/3/2009 7:42:12 PM
Author: arjunajane

Date: 2/3/2009 11:56:21 AM

Author: cinnamon013

Date: 2/3/2009 10:54:14 AM

Author: arjunajane

As a new owner of a Gene umbalite, I am seriously biased and vote for the umbalite!

I really like that star malaya too, but for me the colour of the garnets he has is killer - I''m tempted to get another, lol..

So where''s pictures of your umbalite? I''d love to see it but must have missed the post.

Hi cinnamon..

here''s Gene''s pic:

And one of mine - I asked to have it in the cushion, which I really love. As you can see its a lil more dark/purple than what you''re after, but was exactly what I wanted.

Here''s the thread with lots of pics: umbalite cushion



ETA: hrmm.just saw the post above - trust me, he can do an umbalite cushion! (although I think he may prefer not to as like you said it darkens the stone). I personally think mine turned out great, not too dark at all.

YUMMY

 

[PrecisionGem]

I can''t post any pictures until after the Grammy Awards.

 

[cinnamon013]

Gene - that is very cool news! I can''t wait to see Neil''s stone! But I want to see mine more!

arjunajane - your stone is sooooo pretty!!

 

[Lisa Loves Shiny]

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 2/3/2009 10:37:47 PM
Author: cinnamon013
Gene - that is very cool news! I can''t wait to see Neil''s stone! But I want to see mine more!


arjunajane - your stone is sooooo pretty!!

Thanks Cinnamon and BEG!
But all the credit must go to Gene..
Gene, that is very exciting news, how prestigious! Do you know if Neil Diamond plans to wear it, or is it intended to be appreciated "as is"?

Can''t wait to see pics after the Grammys.

 

[ma re]

Cinnamon013, since you''re thinking about a diamondless halo, how about engraving it (the halo)? Might turn out interesting! Something with curves and scrolls would compliment the shape of the stone, but wouldn''t (IMO) get in the way of it''s scintillation.

 

[cinnamon013]

Date: 2/4/2009 3:20:37 AM
Author: ma re
Cinnamon013, since you''re thinking about a diamondless halo, how about engraving it (the halo)? Might turn out interesting! Something with curves and scrolls would compliment the shape of the stone, but wouldn''t (IMO) get in the way of it''s scintillation.

Yes, that is what I have pictured in my mind. But I don''t want to spend too much setting it so custom is probably out. So far, I haven''t found any settings online that look like this.

For some reason, I don''t want to bezel it, although I love bezels. I want to see the edges of it!

If you find any pave-less halos with prongs, please show me!

 

[cinnamon013]

This photo and the next one show a bezel halo with bead trim. Shows you don''t necessarily need pave or diamonds to have an interesting look. These are stuller but not made in 7mm. And only a representation of something that I would wind up to like. I''m looking for white gold fyi.

 

[cinnamon013]

Smaller stone in this setting. This would be pretty with a 4mm stone I think!

 

[ma re]

Date: 2/4/2009 9:29:30 AM
Author: cinnamon013

Yes, that is what I have pictured in my mind. But I don''t want to spend too much setting it so custom is probably out. So far, I haven''t found any settings online that look like this.

I suggest looking at settings for cabochons and asking vendors is it possible to modify them so that they can accomodate a faceted stone. Here are a few jewellery pieces with such halos, and they''re all for cabs:

#1 (the pendant)

#2 (the one on the left)

#3

And I''m not trying to be funny, but THIS might look similar to what you have in mind.

 

[chrono]

Mare,
The 4th link (last one) doesn''t work.

 

[cinnamon013]

Like the earrings of #3 - a small barely showing halo. Ok, so what is #4? Link broken as Chrono says.

 

[ma re]

Date: 2/4/2009 9:58:17 AM
Author: cinnamon013
Like the earrings of #3 - a small barely showing halo. Ok, so what is #4? Link broken as Chrono says.

A wax model of an emerald cut prong ring setting, with a flat (bezel-like) trim around the prongs.

 

[cushioncutnut]

They are both pretty dreamy...but I love the richness of the umbalite!!!!

 

[ma re]

More ideas:

a) searching for an empty antique setting;
b) having a rope trim (let''s call it that) additionally applied to a ring (shouldn''t be too expensive).

Let me know if links are not working

 

[LaurenThePartier]

I can not WAIT to see this stone cut!!! Gene does some amazing work!

 

[cinnamon013]

So of course I'm waiting to get a setting to see the stone and how it speaks to me. But, in the meantime, I've been searching for a setting. I've had one email with Sally of Heart of Water Jewels on Etsy. This heart ring is kinda what I'm thinking for a halo without diamonds or pave. The pendant she sent a picture of shows a good look at the scroll design on the profile.

Whatcha think?

 

[cinnamon013]

side view of the ring

 

[cinnamon013]

view of the pendant. This shows the side view, but not quite the halo I''m going for.

 

[cinnamon013]

Last side view of the ring.

 

[chrono]

I like the scroll work on the basket and the metal "rim" helps the stone look bigger and more interesting. The pendant is very sweet too.