How honest is this forum?

[Sparkles22]

Date: 2/26/2008 11:45:13 AM
Author: mrssalvo
i''ll give a critical assessment when asked if the post is in Rocky talky. I would never critize or say anything negative about someone''s ring who is just sharing pictures of something they find special. Many times i personally just won''t comment or find something I do like or is special about the ring to comment on. for me, it all just depends on where the question is asked. there are even times when someone will post a ''what do you think of this ring I bought'' and my first question is always, ''do you have a return policy'' but if they don''t then there is no use *beating them up* over their purchase they are probably already second guessing if there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. it''s best just to say, you saw the ring and loved it, not worry about the numbers and what the paper says and enjoy your ring..

Ditto. And even if it''s not something I myself would wear I can still find it to be very pretty and flattering. For example I don''t like rounds on myself, but I still find them beautiful on other people. If it''s in Rocky Talky and someone asks what people''s thoughts are I feel that is the place for critic. If it''s in the SMTR and they haven''t asked, but are excited and sharing photos I will find something positive to say, unless they again ask or say for example I have 30 days to return this, what do you think, or what would you change or what do you think of this setting, etc, then I will give specific critic.

 

[MP]

I understand all your guys points of view and I can see that I'm definitely in the minority on this. Likewise, I wouldn't want SMTR to turn into watch what you post up because those guys love to pick apart your jewelry. I stand by my statements and hopefully it got some of us thinking about the issue.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 2/26/2008 8:04:55 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 2/26/2008 7:59:31 PM
Author: MP

Date: 2/26/2008 7:51:40 PM
Author: Ellen
Gwen, I admit the title got me in here too, but I really did see it as a ''guy'' not quite getting it by his first post. But I really don''t get his last statement, as everyone except one other poster understood what SMTR is for.

I think that is the problem right there for some people. SMTR doens''t necessarily translate into ''Tell me you love me or don''t say anything at all'', for some people. I refer back to my original post. I don''t see why you can''t say something constructive to someone or something like that''s nice, would look great with this as well in terms of a design aspect and not be overly negative. I''ll admit that I am less sensitive than most when it comes to jewelry as I am a guy, but we all are adults here.

No one wants a jerk that lurks around to tear someone down, least of all me, but we can still discuss things in an adult manner.

Well to that I say it wouldn''t go over too well. When someone comes here to show us their ering and are over the moon happy with it. You''re really gonna say, yeah it''s nice and all but would look a lot better done this way?? Good luck with that.

3 pages and you still don''t get that SMTR is all about congratulating someone?? Sharing in their joy.

Yeah. I''m done.

 

[sera]

I guess I'm coming to this late.

Anyway, it's already been said that SHOWMeTheRing is just that... someone showing something they bought... and they bought it because they like it. If someone wants advice/critques on something they may buy, they post their questions in Rocky Talky.

In SMTR, I'm honest in my replies. Of course not everything is my particular taste or something I would wear... but that doesn't mean the ring is not beautiful... it may look great on the person's hand or sparkle like crazy or numerous other positive things that can be found with their ring. If I can honestly say it's beautiful, I will. Otherwise, I will find another just as honest positive comment.

In RT, I'm honest in my replies. If a person asks what we like or don't like about a ring, I will tell them.

I also expect those who comment on my posts to be honest- whether I'm showing it for the sake of showing it or showing it for some critques.

I'm not going to go into The Fire Thread unless I want to look at fire (or post my own fire shots). I'm not going to go to Travel Eye Candy and tell someone they should have gone somewhere else instead. I'm not going to SMTR to give unsolicited critiques and tell them what they should have bought instead.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Date: 2/26/2008 8:14:53 PM
Author: MP
I stand by my statements and hopefully it got some of us thinking about the issue.

WHAT ISSUE?!? Seriously, is this a joke? I feel like I am on candid camera. Being an adult IMHO is about being gracious. About the ability to be happy for someone (even if you don''t always agree with what they bought) because THEY are happy. I don''t understand why you think you are *exposing* something. All I can say is I can''t wait until you post your ring. Hopefully any comments YOU get will be constructive and sincere.

 

[waterlilly]

OK, so can this thread be moved? It doesn''t have pictures of rings in it. Seriously.

 

[waterlilly]

. I''m done.

ohmuhgod, thats the cutest smiley ever, off to bed!

 

[risingsun]

I just wanted to use the smiley.....so cute!

 

[HeartingDiamonds]

Date: 2/26/2008 5:46:36 PM
Author: SanDiegoLady
I am an honest person. What good would it be for me to lie here? Or anywhere for that matter. Those who know me know for sure, but I see no point of lying.

Mom always said, if you dont have something nice to say, dont say it at all.. I try hard not to hurt feelings. If I feel I have something to add, I say it.. but not at the risk of hurting someone.

+1 SDL! If I personally have nothing nice, or constructive, to say, I shut my pie hole

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A lot of the rings I see are rings that I would prolly never wear myself (for a variety of reasons), but it does not mean I dont mean it when I say I think its gorgeous and fab!

ETA: Oh, and the title of the thread AUTOMATICALLY puts people on the defensive, IMHO.

 

[emilina22]

beauty comes in so many forms and in SMTR the point is to show the world a ring that your are proud to wear on your hand because of the meaning of that ring, and what it symbolizes...

when it comes down to it, its not about the ring, and whether or not its AMAZING or STUNNING, its about what it means. what it means is BEAUTIFUL and STUNNING and AMAZING.

so yea even if the ring that some one is showing isnt something that I would PERSONALLY wear im still going to let them know that i thnk its beautiful becasue the ring goes beyond what it looks like.thats what i think...i dunno does that make sense?

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 2/26/2008 9:00:19 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring

Date: 2/26/2008 8:14:53 PM
Author: MP
I stand by my statements and hopefully it got some of us thinking about the issue.

WHAT ISSUE?!? Seriously, is this a joke? I feel like I am on candid camera. Being an adult IMHO is about being gracious. About the ability to be happy for someone (even if you don''t always agree with what they bought) because THEY are happy. I don''t understand why you think you are *exposing* something. All I can say is I can''t wait until you post your ring. Hopefully any comments YOU get will be constructive and sincere.

Tacori, that''s funny as I feel the same. Makes me shake my head. I''m going to bed, dreaming of pie.....Or ice cream.... Or cake.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 2/27/2008 12:44:39 AM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 2/26/2008 9:00:19 PM

Author: Tacori E-ring

Date: 2/26/2008 8:14:53 PM

Author: MP

I stand by my statements and hopefully it got some of us thinking about the issue.

WHAT ISSUE?!? Seriously, is this a joke? I feel like I am on candid camera. Being an adult IMHO is about being gracious. About the ability to be happy for someone (even if you don''t always agree with what they bought) because THEY are happy. I don''t understand why you think you are *exposing* something. All I can say is I can''t wait until you post your ring. Hopefully any comments YOU get will be constructive and sincere.

Tacori, that''s funny as I feel the same. Makes me shake my head. I''m going to bed, dreaming of pie.....Or ice cream.... Or cake.

Yes, thank you for bringing up the pressing issue of whether or not one should be complimentary to someone who''s over the moon about their new engagement ring. It''s definitely a gray area here on PS that needed to be addressed.

And here I was just saying how I wasn''t cranky over in Hangout, and now I''m busting out the "rolleyes" smiley...I guess I''ll be needing a slice of pie, too!

 

[krisvrn]

Date: 2/26/2008 7:59:31 PM
Author: MP

Date: 2/26/2008 7:51:40 PM

Author: Ellen

Gwen, I admit the title got me in here too, but I really did see it as a ''guy'' not quite getting it by his first post. But I really don''t get his last statement, as everyone except one other poster understood what SMTR is for.

I think that is the problem right there for some people. SMTR doens''t necessarily translate into ''Tell me you love me or don''t say anything at all'', for some people. I refer back to my original post. I don''t see why you can''t say something constructive to someone or something like that''s nice, would look great with this as well in terms of a design aspect and not be overly negative. I''ll admit that I am less sensitive than most when it comes to jewelry as I am a guy, but we all are adults here.


No one wants a jerk that lurks around to tear someone down, least of all me, but we can still discuss things in an adult manner.

MP what is the point of saying something "constructive to someone" when all that person wants to do is show off their ring. This is not the appropriate area to provide a critique. You may think your providing something to someone but thing about it, they are posting a finish product ~ it is what it is... no need to tell one to return ring, ring has bad specs etc (unless one asks). What would be the point? This type of critical constructive comment should have been provided up front, not with the finished product. Also think about, what if that is the best ring that person can buy at the time?

 

[krisvrn]

Date: 2/26/2008 8:14:53 PM
Author: MP
I understand all your guys points of view and I can see that I''m definitely in the minority on this. Likewise, I wouldn''t want SMTR to turn into watch what you post up because those guys love to pick apart your jewelry. I stand by my statements and hopefully it got some of us thinking about the issue.

The only one with an issue is yourself! Get over yourself!

 

[Mara]

hmmm my only ISSUE is that no one is serving the pie yet!!

c''mon...who wants some banana creme pie?? w/REAL whipped. i feel generous tonite.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 2/27/2008 1:24:32 AM
Author: Mara
hmmm my only ISSUE is that no one is serving the pie yet!!

c''mon...who wants some banana creme pie?? w/REAL whipped. i feel generous tonite.

I mentioned that I was going to bed dreaming of pie, ice cream or cake. Since you are buying, yes a nice slice of banana cream pie with REAL whipped cream would be heavenly.

 

[sera]

OK... now I'm honestly going to bed (after some pie of course!)

 

[MP]

Point taken guys, obviously I''ve hit a nerve. Let''s move on, no need to get all up in a twist over it.

 

[chizzy1982]

MP

I want you to picture this scenario:

Man and woman meet. Man and woman fall in love. Man decides that this is the woman he wants to spend the rest of his life with so he embarks on the journey of trying to find her the most perfect ring to present to her when he asks her the most important question of her life to date. He spends many an hour researching all about diamonds, decides on the setting HE thinks SHE will love, chooses the diamond within HIS budget and then purchases the ring. Man then has to think about what would be the perfect way for him to present the ring to his woman. There are candles, music etc, he goes down on one knee and utters those 4 magical words. Tears all round as woman says yes and in that moment she is the happiest person in the world. Newly engaged woman starts clicking away with the digital camera so she can post some pictures of her new sparkly in her favorite diamond forum. She posts her pics with the accompanying story of how her darling fiance chose the most perfect ring FOR HER and put a smile on her face that just won''t go away. And then she waits. But alas whats this? That beaming smile is slowly fading from her face.................

"Wow what an amazing story, but hhmmmmm that setting not to my liking, but congrats any way"

Tears start to slowly fall down her face as she scrolls down that page and sees similar post after post. Shes devestated and bawling her eyes out into her kleenex

. Fiance find her and asks whats the matter. And then she shows him..........


Ok maybe a slight over exaggeration but do you get my point?

SMTR is a place where people post their engagement stories and very proudly show off their rings. Ok so it may not be to your taste, if thats the case then don''t post and exit their thread. What benefit do you think it would bring them by posting that their ring isn''t to your liking, or that you would have had 12 diamonds down the sides rather than 11. Absolutley no benfit at all.

 

[jayreneepea]

Date: 2/27/2008 8:35:54 AM
Author: MP

Point taken guys, obviously I''ve hit a nerve. Let''s move on, no need to get all up in a twist over it.

What nerve? This is like an episode of Seinfeld. Who knew a thread about nothing could cover 4 pages!

 

[gemgirl]

Thank you for saying that jayrenay9. I''ve been trying to think of a tactful way to say exactly that.

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Date: 2/27/2008 8:35:54 AM
Author: MP

Point taken guys, obviously I''ve hit a nerve. Let''s move on, no need to get all up in a twist over it.

I thought that was your point?

 

[krisvrn]

Actually this man has no point. If he questions Pricescope''s honesty so much, then maybe he needs to go somewhere else where he *feels* there are more honest people around.

This man posted a picture of his future wife. He received many nice responses. I wonder how he would feel if someone gave some "constructive criticism"

Also read his other threads, he mentions his gf comes from a well to do /wealthy family and he wants to get her something nice.... I wonder how he will feel if they don''t think his diamond is big enough or nice enough

...I am sure he will not get mad as this is just constructive criticism....

 

[MP]

Date: 2/27/2008 11:05:29 AM
Author: krisvrn
Actually this man has no point. If he questions Pricescope's honesty so much, then maybe he needs to go somewhere else where he *feels* there are more honest people around.

This man posted a picture of his future wife. He received many nice responses. I wonder how he would feel if someone gave some 'constructive criticism'

Also read his other threads, he mentions his gf comes from a well to do /wealthy family and he wants to get her something nice.... I wonder how he will feel if they don't think his diamond is big enough or nice enough

...I am sure he will not get mad as this is just constructive criticism....

It's a shame that someone feels the need to sink to the level of getting personal with another simply to get their point across. Obvioulsy you don't understand my point of view and that's fine, but I was hoping for a discourse on more of an adult level. What a shame it is.

 

[krisvrn]

Date: 2/27/2008 11:20:15 AM
Author: MP

Date: 2/27/2008 11:05:29 AM
Author: krisvrn
Actually this man has no point. If he questions Pricescope''s honesty so much, then maybe he needs to go somewhere else where he *feels* there are more honest people around.

This man posted a picture of his future wife. He received many nice responses. I wonder how he would feel if someone gave some ''constructive criticism''

Also read his other threads, he mentions his gf comes from a well to do /wealthy family and he wants to get her something nice.... I wonder how he will feel if they don''t think his diamond is big enough or nice enough

...I am sure he will not get mad as this is just constructive criticism....

It''s a shame that someone feels the need to get personal with another simply to get their point across. Obvioulsy you don''t understand my point of view and that''s fine, but I was hoping for a discourse on more of an adult level. It''s simply a shame.

Did I hit a nerve? And judgement on one''s ring is not personal. I think you missed the point. Take it like an adult. You wanted honesty & honestly is what you get. Your uncouth behavior and troublesome comments disserves no discourse.

 

[MP]

I can see that there is no point in continueing to post in this topic due to some unwarranted responses. On that note....I quote Ellen, "Yeah. I'm done.

"

 

[krisvrn]

Date: 2/27/2008 11:36:38 AM
Author: MP
On that note....I quote Ellen, ''I''m done''

Have a great day!

 

[chizzy1982]

Actually MP I think there is nothing wrong with Krisvrn post - She has simply put your thoughts on honesty into a different topic and asked how you would feel. I bet if you critiqued PS''ers pics in SMTR with your full "honesty" then they may well view you as getting personal.

Can you understand our view point? Full brutal honesty is not always the best policy - espcially when some has not asked for it AND when dealing with something so personal and emotive as an engagement ring. As I said before just exit their thread if that particular piece does not float your boat, and only post when you truly feel that a certain item is beautiful or stunning etc, that way at least you will know you were being "honest".

 

[Maisie]

Does that mean we can use this again? Its so cute!!

 

[chizzy1982]

Does that mean we can use this again.....

LOL!