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luckystar112

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Anybody looking for a good vent? Here's one.

Background: As most of you know, we were supposed to get married in Virginia and just recently changed our minds and decided to have a small destination wedding in Jamaica. What you may not know is that my cousin is getting married at the same resort two days before us (which is why we picked it). She and her FI were planning on eloping...just them, no one else...period. They have two children who will be staying home with her mom (my aunt). They've had this planned since last May. Obviously, things have changed and they are thrilled that FI and I will be joining them and that we'll be able to attend eachother's weddings. It was their idea...we never would have imposed on them.

So, FI and I are hoping that our wedding guests will consist only of my parents, his parents, my cousin and her new DH, and my FI's brother and his wife...a total of eight guests. The plan is for my cousin and I (and our men, obviously) to stay at the sandals, and everyone else will stay at the beaches resort right next door or somewhere else.

Fast forward

My mom is looking for a resort. She books at the RIU, and then realizes that Sandals charges anywhere from $85-$130 per person to step foot on the property if you aren't staying at another sandals or beaches resort. So, in order to go to both weddings, my mom could have been spending up to $520. She cancelled her reservation at the RIU and tried to book at the beaches, but the lower level rooms are all booked so she couldn't afford it. So she books at OUR resort. She didn't tell me--she told my cousin first and then my cousin called me flipping out. I was upset at first, but I've pretty much gotten over it. My cousin on the other hand is still pretty darn annoyed (my mom is even on the same flight as them). After all, they WERE trying to elope, and now my mom is going to be there while her own mom is at home? Things have died down a little bit...but that's not even where it gets bad.

A little bit more background information

I'll fully admit it. I'm still bitter about FI's family (particularly his dad) this past Christmas. As awful as this sounds, I really felt like he was cheaping out on our wedding...plans we had set he kept on suggesting we change (including the venue, which he OWNS, I mean, wth)...and he just says the most outlandish, RUDE, things sometimes that make me SO mad I could scream. Example: My parents drove 10 hours down there from Maine. They arrived in Virginia the day before us because FI's parents accidentally told them the wrong day we were arriving. So my parents had to meet Fi's parents without us, which I heard was awkward. Fi's parents didn't even think to turn the heat on for them at the house (my parents were staying at the lake house). There's a lot more rudeness there but I'll spare you. Outlandish comments though..let's see...he constantly talked about how he could never live in Maine...how it must be so awful there...how you have to be stupid to live in the cold...blah blah blah. When our flight was late and I realized that the ONE DAY I had with my mother (who, again, had driven 10 hours to see me and who hadn't seen me in over a year) was dwindling away, his dad told me it "wasn't a big deal" and to "calm down".
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The man just really boils my blood sometimes. So...yeah, I'm still bitter. Not to mention that I really feel like they treat Fi's brother and his wife different from us, but that's a whole other story.

Fast forward again (pretty please!)

So FI talks to his parents and finds out that not only are they going...but so is his grandmother, a bunch of aunts and uncles, and some family friends...bringing the total on his side to FIFTEEN.
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Not a big deal, I guess. What bothered me about it is that, for one, it's not what we wanted--and two, a few of those people FI has never even MET before. Nothing like using our wedding as an excuse for a vacation. Whatever...we got over it. They said they were staying at a different resort, so it's not like we'll see them.

Fast forward to today

Yeah. They're all trying to stay at our resort. Nice huh?
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My cousin is going to flip out. Heck, I'm flipping out! I kind of threw a mini fit to FI because I do NOT want all of those people there...especially his parents. Am I a brat because I want a little bit of privacy at our resort? I'm not trying to be rude about it, but I mean, there are 94 resorts in Negril. Why OURS? I don't get it. We're staying at a couples resort. If we wanted everyone in our family there, we would have picked a family resort. FI feels the same way as me, but didn't say anything when they told him. He said he was shocked. Now he's planning on calling them tomorrow morning before they book and tell them "no way". I'm assuming that this is going to make me look like a huge b#%$^ since things were obviously honky dory today but all of a sudden NOT okay now. I hate looking like the bad guy, ESPECIALLY since I know that FI feels the same way. I'm just afraid they are going to think that I put him up to this. I guess I did, in a way...but it's not all me.
I just feel like for the last three years every vacation we have taken has been to see his family. I'm done, and I need a break. That is why I'm kind of glad that my mom is staying at the resort. I miss her! But that can't look good...to have my mom at our resort and not his family. So I'm the bad guy.....again. Sigh.
 
Oh yuck! How long will the families be staying? I guess wait until your FI talks to his family and maybe they can book rooms at another resort. It''s totally understandable that you two want privacy!! And does your mom understand that your cousin didn''t want anyone at her wedding? Your mom will just have to stay away...no big deal.

Hopefully your FI will be able to get his fam to book somewhere else!!!!
 
I don''t even know how to begin to help you. This whole situation has but you and a bad position. I can only hope your FI talks with his family tactfully, recommending that his family stay at a "family resort" and everything works out. His family doesn''t have to know were your family is staying.
 
I know the resort is probably big enough for everyone to have a nice time, but really - who goes on their honeymoon with their parents? Thats the way I would put it across to them.
 
Date: 2/19/2008 4:59:46 AM
Author: Maisie
I know the resort is probably big enough for everyone to have a nice time, but really - who goes on their honeymoon with their parents? Thats the way I would put it across to them.

Yeah that''s a good way of putting it. In terms of your mother staying at the resort, I''d just tell her not to go to your cousins wedding so that your cousin can have her wedding the way she wants. Hopefully your FI''s family understand when he speaks to them about it.
 
I''m sorry you''re going through this. I know you had wanted to avoid more family drama, which is why I''m assuming you made the plans you did after cancelling the wedding in Virginia. I''m hoping your FI''s parents will understand after he talks to them.
 
Luckystar, I am SO SORRY! I can entirely understand why you wanted to change everything around and this isn''t at all what you wanted, is it?


I have a few questions that I''m curious about....


1) Does the FI''s family know your Mom is staying at the resort? If they don''t know, you won''t necessarily look like the "bad guy" letting one relative stay there and not another as long as they don''t find out.


2) I''m wondering how much your cousin will really be affected by this... she isn''t marrying your FI :) so she won''t necessarily have anything to do with FI''s family, aside from seeing them at the wedding...


3) How much is your FI really willing to sit down and talk things out with them? They should know EXACTLY why you moved your wedding from Virginia, and EXACTLY what you wanted out of having a destination wedding. If they''re just being clueless, then your FI shouldn''t have too much trouble getting things straight. However, if they know what you want and are CHOOSING to ignore it... that''s a very serious sign, and seeing how well your FI goes the limit for both of your wants (especially yours, as his future wife) is going to demonstrate a lot in the long run about your relationship.


This is a fairly personal response, I know, but everything I''ve said here is in the best of intentions, I promise. I hope everything works out for you.............
 
gosh this is a sticky situation....how did your FI''s extended family members get the idea that they were invited to the wedding? one of my cousins had a destination wedding last year but she still sent out invites to the specific people she wanted in attendance along with a list of possible accommodation locations. how much time do you have before the big day? maybe you could move your mom off your resort if you help her find another place to stay...?
 
Oh man, Lucky.
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Why, oh why do these things have to be so damn complicated?
 
Why can''t your FI talk to his parents today?? Is there a chance that they could book this afternoon or this evening, and then tomorrow morning would be too late?? I also find it odd that most of his family somehow got the "memo" that they were all welcome to come. However, I don''t think it is fare to rule out his family, when yours is going to be there, no matter how rude they might be, they are still HIS family... and soon to be yours also. This situation with his parents, sounds horrible. I''m very sorry that you are having to deal with this.

Did your cousin invite you and your FI along with the understanding that it would only be the 2 of you? If so, I think she might deserve a HUGE wedding present from you and your FI!
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My sister(half-sister) is going through the same thing. It''s her 2nd marriage, and they are getting married in Hawaii. Well, she goes back and forth from wanting it to be just the two of them and then wanting my mom and dad there... however, her mom is my dad''s ex-wife, which means, if my dad goes... then she has to be ok with her mom going. And then come like 10 other ppl. Its hard wanting your family there, but then knowing that once you waver a little its like you can''t stop it. I wish you the best of luck.
 
Take back control of this runaway train by booking a block of rooms at a discount group rate, at the resort of your choice and tell your guests that they should book there.
 
lucky, i''m sorry you''re having to deal with this. at some level, though, it makes me feel like all the threads about how you should elope don''t account for the fact that no matter what you do, weddings will have drama. its like it''s a requirement to get married -- trial by fire on how you manage your family and future family members.
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good luck!
 
Surfgirl, funny you should mention that. I didn''t block rooms for them, but I did email everyone (per FI''s parents request) and give them the contact infomation of our travel agent. I also think I crafted up a rather ingenious letter where I pretty much said point blank that they were welcome to the whole island of Jamaica except for our resort, without ever actually saying it. I guess I expected them to get the hint when I should have been more direct.

The weird thing about it is that from the beginning when people tell us they are coming to the wedding, one of the first things they say is to not worry because they''ll be staying at a different resort. Yet, then when it comes down to it they are trying to book there anyway. I don''t quite understand it.

Anyway, FI called his parents this morning. He asked them how long they were planning on staying for, and used the excuse that since we would be trying to have our honeymoon, we might try to extend our vacation for some alone time. I think FI''s dad got the hint, because then he said, "oh, well we can just look somewhere else if that would be easier". I don''t understand how people can go from completely understanding where we''re coming from, to booking at our resort anyway, then back to understanding. I almost feel like they were just testing how serious we were about it.

They told him that they haven''t booked anything yet because they are waiting to see if FBIL''s newborn will need a passport and how that whole thing will work out. The baby isn''t due until next month. The baby couldn''t stay at the sandals anyway...so how was sandals ever an option? I really just don''t get it. Regardless, I think things have been handled, but I don''t want to get my hopes up because his family is just so seriously flakey. I wouldn''t be surprised if they tried to put another fast one on us!

Oh, and my mom, in the middle of this whole fiasco...is now switching resorts to "lead by example". Yes, it was probably unfair for her to be able to stay there and FI''s family to have to stay somewhere else. But the way I see it is I NEVER see my mom. My mom is trying to go to two weddings, and we''re talking about 2 people...not 15, which is how many would be coming on FI''s side. If it was just FI''s parents, I''d like to think that I''d be able to deal with it...but not that many people, it''s just not happening.

So I guess now I have to just wait and see what his family is going to do. Luckily my mom and I came up with a couple of plans. Our travel agent is going to steer his family away from our resort if they call to ask about it...and if for some reason they DO end up booking there, we can easily switch sandals resorts right after the wedding. So, we''ll see!
 
Why cant your travel agent tell people that there''s no room at Sandal''s and that they can all stay at the other place? Lucky, I think "waiting to see what they''re going to do" is just going to get you deeper into trouble and more issues because you''re not taking control here. I think you need to be DIRECT and stop waiting for FI to do it for you because he doesn''t sound like he''s being direct either. Why not simply email everyone with a little email - nice - saying that while you''re both looking forward to everyone attending your nuptials, you''d also like some privacy since it''s also your honeymoon as well and to that end, you''ve blocked rooms at Resort X & Resort Y, depending on their price points...?
 
You can''t keep people out of "your" resort. You just can''t. The extended family members are probably assuming they are invited to the wedding, and if they aren''t, you need to correct them NOW. Politely of course. But NOW.

Discuss with your FI who will be invited. Those not invited need to be told soon that unfortunately you will be having a very small wedding. Your plans for a larger wedding fell through, and unfortunately you will be having a very small wedding. Just repeat as necessary.

Then call up the FILs and tell them that you will be having a very small wedding. They are invited, but telling other relatives about the wedding leads them to assume they are invited and puts you in a difficult position. You are having a very small wedding, and cannot accommodate the additional guests. Repeat.

As for your FI''s parents staying at Sandals, I think you should just let this one go. You don''t get to own the resort, and your own parents are staying there for practical reasons. You will just make waves if you attempt to keep them out. Call Sandals and ask if the parents (both sets) can be lodged away from you and your FI. That is the best you can do.

Unfortunately for your cousin, she gave up a large degree of control over this thing when she agreed to the coordinated wedding, especially when she is fully eloping and you are having the small wedding. Which resort your mother stays at is beside the point. Your mother gets to see her daughter get married while her mother gets to stay home and babysit. There is no getting around that, and it has little to do with whether your FI''s relatives crash your wedding or not.
 
I read this last night and honestly had no words...you can tell your family that they won''t be coming to your wedding because your cousin is going to kill you.
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But I gotta agree with surfgirl''s last post. Nip this in the bud. You''re not being a bridezilla. A very very miniscule part of the population would actually want to honeymoon at the same resort as their family. I personally am not in that number!!!
 
You could always tell the travel agent to say (in a light hearted but serious way), if people ask about your resort, Oh gosh, they will be on their honeymoon and I know they really would love their privacy. Let me recommend some other resorts that are nice and are in your price range.

Some people do not get subtlety. Some people are clueless and do not think things through. Other people think only about themselves. For that reason, I would be firm but nice but I would certainly make my wishes known clearly. You will be the unhappy one for the most part if you do not, so do not hesitate to be clear!
 
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