Imitation

[777_LDY]

Date: 1/7/2009 9:25:03 PM
Author: Harriet
Alj,
There is no need to read ''ill intent'' into Strmdr''s post. It is patently manifest, as are other agendum, not necessarily his.

Now will someone please give me cake?

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

 

[LAJennifer]

Date: 1/7/2009 1:17:10 AM
Author: Allison D.
I have to say I believe this is the first day I''ve truly missed my chainsaw since retiring it nearly a year ago.


That said, I''m going to speak from my heart.


I wouldn''t have enough fingers on my own hands to tick off the COUNTLESS number of posters over the years who came to Pricescope, fell in love with ''Mara''s ring'' and modeled their set(s) after hers. It would take a full village''s worth of hands to even come close. At that time, no one else on Pricescope had a set of rings like hers. (Her ring, by the way, wasn''t her own design either but inspired by the ring her local jeweler''s wife wore.) I don''t think it ever would have occurred to her to become upset with another poster for copying ''her'' ring.....thank God. That''s just not what Mara was about, and it''s not what Pricescope has been about during these many years either.


When I finally commissioned my halo pendant (which itself was partially inspired by a Ritani piece I''d seen), a ton of folks commented that they''d love to own a pendant like that. I was beyond flattered. When Lisa decided to look into having one made, she actually got in touch with me to ask if I''d mind. I couldn''t believe she even felt she had to ask; it was a nice courtesy on her part, but totally unnecessary. I couldn''t imagine being offended by such a request; in fact, I encouraged her to do so by sending my pendant to her chosen jeweler to help make it happen!


In Belle''s case, she DID actually create her own unique design in collaboration with Irina.....and that was NO easy feat. There isn''t much in the jewelry business that hasn''t been tried before, and yet they settled on an arrangement the likes of which no one had ever seen before. It never even occurred to me that Belle would be anything less than completely gracious about others'' interest in that pendant, and she did not disappoint. I can''t imagine it would have ever crossed her mind to deny someone else the opportunity to enjoy the design as well.


ETA: I''ve seen multiple owners of the Bellerina pendant since then, and do you know who I think of every time I see it? Yep....Belle. It''s no less hers for having shared it.

The copyright argument is a red herring; the ring wasn''t designed by the owner. Further, SS as the jeweler doesn''t have a shred of obligation to call the ring owner. She didn''t create the design she wears and she doesn''t have ''veto'' power over his business just because she''s a client/fan. As others have pointed out, he likely didn''t even conceive that it could be . I know it wouldn''t occur to me, and given the several responses in this thread, that assumption would be correct most of the time.


This site has always been about SHARING....sharing knowledge, sharing ideas, sharing information, and yes.....sharing inspiration. I cannot even begin to understand how anyone could find offense or injury because some other random individual in the world was wearing a similar piece of jewelry....especially when the two are unlikely to cross paths in real life! I don''t see how denying someone else the same pleasure I''d had (finding a given design that spoke to me) would make me feel good; in fact, I''m quite certain I''d feel terrible.


I''m disheartened, dismayed, outraged and ashamed at the disservice that was done to the poor poster today who came here to share her excitement over her ring.

Oh Alj, how I have missed you. And the chainsaw. And the scoobie doo pic. Spot on, as always.

 

[risingsun]

I don't drink, but I think I'll make an exception tonight!! Bartender's choice, Kaleigh

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/7/2009 9:53:48 PM
Author: risingsun
I don't drink, but I think I'll make an exception tonight!! Bartender's choice, Kaleigh

hope you like "sex on the beach"

 

[Ellen]

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that''s probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:39 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that's probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

HILARIOUS!!!!!

Where the heck did you find that!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:15:39 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:39 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that''s probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

HILARIOUS!!!!!

Where the heck did you find that!

I just went to youtube.

 

[coatimundi_org]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:17:21 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 10:15:39 PM

Author: Skippy123

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:39 PM

Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM

Author: 777_LDY


Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that''s probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

HILARIOUS!!!!!

Where the heck did you find that!

I just went to youtube.

hahahahaha!!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 1/7/2009 8:22:05 PM
Author: Allison D.


An inspired-by piece likely doesn''t require permission as it''s not an exact replica, and in the case of an exact replica, you''d have to approach the copyright owner, which is seldom the ring owner.

If you had actually said that then there would not have been an issue.

 

[~*Alexis*~]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:22:03 PM
Author: coatimundi

Date: 1/7/2009 10:17:21 PM

Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 10:15:39 PM


Author: Skippy123

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:39 PM


Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM


Author: 777_LDY



Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that''s probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

HILARIOUS!!!!!

Where the heck did you find that!

I just went to youtube.

hahahahaha!!

*Speechless*

 

[777_LDY]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:39 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that''s probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

OMFG, Ellen, I love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am laughing so hard right now, and I can even begin to explain how I needed that laugh! Thank you so much!

I looooooooved that bling shot in the middle!!! PRICELESS!!!!!! I am speechless!

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:22:41 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 1/7/2009 8:22:05 PM
Author: Allison D.


An inspired-by piece likely doesn't require permission as it's not an exact replica, and in the case of an exact replica, you'd have to approach the copyright owner, which is seldom the ring owner.

If you had actually said that then there would not have been an issue.

Come on Storm; give her the benefit of doubt!!! me thinks you are twist words (friend)...

 

[Ellen]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:28:50 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:39 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that''s probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

OMFG, Ellen, I love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am laughing so hard right now, and I can even begin to explain how I needed that laugh! Thank you so much!

I looooooooved that bling shot in the middle!!! PRICELESS!!!!!! I am speechless!

Glad to hear it was timely.

It is funny. Glad you all enjoyed it.

 

[Linda W]

Date: 1/7/2009 8:51:41 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 1/7/2009 8:50:09 PM

Author: Gypsy

OY! My favorite drink is a Bellini but A) I don''t think anyone has any frozen white peaches running around to defrost, and B) this calls for hard alcohol.


10 pages. May I please have ... huh, I haven''t had hard alcohol in a whiiiiiiiiiiile. Okay, so maybe I have? Does Bailey''s on the rocks count? If it does I''ll have one of those... if it doestn''t, gimme something with some rum.

I''ll pass the appetizers.


Canapes, hordourves... whatever... how about caviar on toast points with creme frache, chives, egg, and a little squeeze of lemon? Parma ham and French Charentais melon? or Fruit Skewers dipped in drak chocolate fondue... OH wait, that''s dessert, I hate it when that happens, NOT.

Oh yum, chocolate fondue.

I think we can find some frozen peaches if there are no fresh.

Gosh a bellini sounds goooooooood!

Skippy, can I please have a margarita???

 

[777_LDY]

Ellen, you are the greatest!

I still can''t get over that! It will have me laughing for some time! Thank you.

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:34:51 PM
Author: Linda W

Date: 1/7/2009 8:51:41 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 1/7/2009 8:50:09 PM

Author: Gypsy

OY! My favorite drink is a Bellini but A) I don''t think anyone has any frozen white peaches running around to defrost, and B) this calls for hard alcohol.


10 pages. May I please have ... huh, I haven''t had hard alcohol in a whiiiiiiiiiiile. Okay, so maybe I have? Does Bailey''s on the rocks count? If it does I''ll have one of those... if it doestn''t, gimme something with some rum.

I''ll pass the appetizers.


Canapes, hordourves... whatever... how about caviar on toast points with creme frache, chives, egg, and a little squeeze of lemon? Parma ham and French Charentais melon? or Fruit Skewers dipped in drak chocolate fondue... OH wait, that''s dessert, I hate it when that happens, NOT.

Oh yum, chocolate fondue.

I think we can find some frozen peaches if there are no fresh.

Gosh a bellini sounds goooooooood!

Skippy, can I please have a margarita???

Anything for you Linda

 

[Ellen]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:34:57 PM
Author: 777_LDY
Ellen, you are the greatest!

I still can''t get over that! It will have me laughing for some time! Thank you.

You''re very welcome. And thank you.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:46:48 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 10:34:57 PM
Author: 777_LDY
Ellen, you are the greatest!

I still can''t get over that! It will have me laughing for some time! Thank you.

You''re very welcome. And thank you.

Ok that was the best Miss Ellen. You had me crying with laughter...

 

[Linda W]

Ellen, you are toooooooooooo much. Geez, I wish I knew you in person.

 

[777_LDY]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:51:46 PM
Author: Linda W
Ellen, you are toooooooooooo much. Geez, I wish I knew you in person.

Ditto, I know we would have so much fun!

 

[AprilBaby]

Are we still serving? I second the pomagranate martini!

 

[Harriet]

Date: 1/7/2009 9:33:41 PM
Author: elle_chris
cake mmm.. have a cocount peppridge farm one sitting in my freezer. no good bakeries around here!

I do. It''s called "Hot and Krusty."

 

[blinkydoll]

Date: 1/7/2009 12:14:03 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 12:11:20 PM

Author: Linda W

Date: 1/7/2009 12:08:28 PM

Author: coatimundi

hahaha! Thanks ladies! What''s my ring doing in this thread?

Might as well include JM!


jamesmeyerjewelry.com

It''s gorgeous, that''s why

Yes! And someday we''ll ALL own one just like it. Muahahahahahahahaaaaaa

LOLOL!!
THIS Thread needed a pic!
everything is copied.... look at all those tiffany replica settings out there...
Even my ring is a copy of an antique--- I actually found a real antique version of my ring 2 times-- and I was soo excited to see them!
The only way I would feel a little wierd ab someone coping me would be if my best friend who i see--got the same ring as mine. She does copy me... which ticks me off somtimes...she used my screen name for so many things

not cool.

But-- i forget who said it--forgive me-- but someone said that thats what this site is all about-- to get inspiration..

Every time someone comes out with something new--- there is a buzz.. and everyone wants to jump on the wagon.
look at the earring jackets craze,,,, halo rings.... and so on and so on.
I lOOOve

surfgirl''s ring to the point that my Fi new what i was talking about when i told him of this thread--- lol--- me: Remember surfgirls ring? him: yes.. antique..great pics, transitional? me: yup.. well this is whats going on now....

Lol-- he knew what i was talking ab.... My friend who doesn''t go on pricescope even knows of surfgirl! lol
In fact--- i had just noticed her beautiful new french cut diamond band that she added to her precious... and sent that to my friend to drool over.
I''m sad her thread is gone... I love looking at her ring

maybe its just out of shock? after all ari just made re sized her antique french cut band--- maybe she felt someone should have asked her or told her or something-- just out of courtesy?

I do hope parrot tulips comes back and does a proper SMTR thread with her new lovely with lots of pics

 

[Harriet]

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Date: 1/7/2009 9:25:03 PM
Author: Harriet
Alj,
There is no need to read ''ill intent'' into Strmdr''s post. It is patently manifest, as are other agendum, not necessarily his.

Now will someone please give me cake?

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

M''dear. That''s what I''ve been trying to do with this thread.

 

[VRBeauty]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:39 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

Heya friend!

Yeah ok, that''s probably not exactly what you had in mind, but it had bling!

Now that is an original interpretation! Bravo! Bravo!

Or maybe... Brava!

 

[777_LDY]

Date: 1/7/2009 11:16:56 PM
Author: Harriet

Date: 1/7/2009 9:38:29 PM
Author: 777_LDY

Date: 1/7/2009 9:25:03 PM
Author: Harriet
Alj,
There is no need to read ''ill intent'' into Strmdr''s post. It is patently manifest, as are other agendum, not necessarily his.

Now will someone please give me cake?

Only if you sing kumbaya with me.

M''dear. That''s what I''ve been trying to do with this thread.

I think it was great that you started this thread, Harriet. You definitely deserve a piece of cake of your choice!

Miss Ellen has started the song and I think everyone should join in on the blinged out drag queen chorus! C''mon let me hear y''all!!!!!!!!

Kumbaya!!!!

Sooooo funny!

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:22:41 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 1/7/2009 8:22:05 PM
Author: Allison D.


An inspired-by piece likely doesn't require permission as it's not an exact replica, and in the case of an exact replica, you'd have to approach the copyright owner, which is seldom the ring owner.

If you had actually said that then there would not have been an issue.

That IS what I said.

Look again.

Date: 1/7/2009 4:16:05 PM
Author: fieryred33143

It seems like those that were inspired by other PS rings and have posted about it on here did reach out to the original owner first which I think is not entirely necessary but definitely appreciated and courteous.

My reply to THAT comment (which was about inspired rings, Storm).....

"
It's a nice gesture, but I don't think it's in any way required and I can see several arguments for not doing so.

What if the person says no? Do they have a RIGHT to say no? Not really.....

Cliff notes summary: Permission isn't required from the owner of rings because they are a) INSPIRED and b) ring owners don't usually have the right to say no (because they don't own the rights to the design).

I did not offer commentary on copyrighted designs because my post wasn't answering anything about copyrighted designs. It was strictly answering the post I QUOTED, which was about whether or not permission should be sought from OWNERS of rings that inspire other rings.

 

[violet3]

Date: 1/7/2009 11:34:49 PM
Author: Allison D.

Date: 1/7/2009 10:22:41 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 1/7/2009 8:22:05 PM
Author: Allison D.


An inspired-by piece likely doesn''t require permission as it''s not an exact replica, and in the case of an exact replica, you''d have to approach the copyright owner, which is seldom the ring owner.

If you had actually said that then there would not have been an issue.

That IS what I said.

Look again.

Date: 1/7/2009 4:16:05 PM
Author: fieryred33143

It seems like those that were inspired by other PS rings and have posted about it on here did reach out to the original owner first which I think is not entirely necessary but definitely appreciated and courteous.

My reply to THAT comment (which was about inspired rings, Storm).....

''
It''s a nice gesture, but I don''t think it''s in any way required and I can see several arguments for not doing so.

What if the person says no? Do they have a RIGHT to say no? Not really.....

Cliff notes summary: Permission isn''t required from the owner of rings because they are a) INSPIRED and b) ring owners don''t usually have the right to say no (because they don''t own the rights to the design).

I did not offer commentary on copyrighted designs because my post wasn''t answering anything about copyrighted designs. It was strictly answering the post I QUOTED, which was about whether or not permission should be sought from OWNERS of rings that inspire other rings.

Bravo Alj! I have enjoyed reading your posts, both previously and throughout this thread...well said to your input!

 

[risingsun]

Date: 1/7/2009 10:09:11 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/7/2009 9:53:48 PM
Author: risingsun
I don''t drink, but I think I''ll make an exception tonight!! Bartender''s choice, Kaleigh

hope you like ''sex on the beach''

 

[MoonWater]

*phew* I''m glad to read Ellen and Coati''s comments because one day, when I''m rich, I want exact replicas of Coati''s diamond ring and Ellen''s aqua!