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gm88|1359138291|3363517 said:
If anything, looking at the 1.01 G SI1, and seeing the image with the wisps, would that not affect light return or how it's seen (in terms of eye clean)?

And a knot can pose a structural risk for the diamond? This is why PS is so helpful, I never would have even considered that

As far as the setting, I suppose it's just what I think she'd like - I don't want to tip her off but I can run it by friends/family and see what they'll think of it. I think a ~1ct with side diamonds would look good on her hand after looking at the 7+ ring size thread and other ones I've seen before when I ran searches.

In terms of dimensions, the 1.11 beats out the others in terms of both L/W by 0.2. Not sure I should be looking at depth as the result doesn't really affect perceived size? And by "performs better", do you mean on imagescope or just in terms of visible performance? Wouldn't want to waste any of those precious 3 requests!

I guess I really need to see an H and an I side-by-side (or in a platinum/white gold setting) to be able to tell how the color will look - planning to do it this weekend
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JA will evaluate the light performance of the stone separate from the idealscope. The idealscope will tell you a great deal about the light performance anyway.

I only know about the knot thing because I had JA pull a diamond for me with a knot near the edge. They told me that it could be covered by a prong, but since it's close to the edge, if I hit it against anything, it could cause the diamond to fracture. I think it is a rare occurrence but stones with knots are often discounted.

I don't think that the wisps in the G should be of a major concern. Remember that you're looking at the stone magnified by 40x. I doubt you'll be able to see them in real life. Anyway, JA can confirm if it is eye clean and if light performance is impacted by the wisps.
 
gm88|1359139613|3363537 said:
Would JA be able to create a custom made ring? And what should I do in white gold vs platinum? I know platinum is more expensive but doesn't need to be repaired with rhodium. She's not too sporty so I'm hoping it won't be taking too much damage or be too exposed
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JA uses "True White" gold that apparently doesn't need rhodium plating. Here's some info: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/james-allen-true-white-gold.170407/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/james-allen-true-white-gold.170407/[/URL]

My personal preference is for platinum especially if you have side stones, but I think white gold will be fine too. If the difference is only a few hundred bucks, I would swing for platinum. Gold prices have been really high lately, so it makes platinum look like a better deal in comparison.
 
 
nielseel said:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.038-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104062571004
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Should I really consider a diamond with a blue florescence? My gf and I don't find ourselves in nightclubs often anymore but if her ring suddenly started glowing blue that might be interesting to explain...aside from that, will the light performance be the same in all other conditions? Would it "reflect" more blue than other diamonds? And in the aset picture, does it line up properly?

nielseel said:
you cant go wrong with bg and they have a lot of beautiful diamond settings about 2k or under!


http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones-/marquise-and-round-18k-white-gold-5443w18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/peggy-18k-white-gold-5359w18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/legera-18k-white-gold-5861w18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/classic-truth-sleek-micro-pave-18k-white-gold-5542w18
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Wow, some great settings, possibly the last one is my favorite with the 2nd one being a runner up (I like the more classical lines on the last one). Do you think an "I" color diamond would appear yellow in that setting, given the F/G side stones? And do you know if bg would mount a loose diamond onto one of their settings? How do Brian Gavin diamonds compare to JA, as in, where would I be able to find the better deal? Should I look for a diamond and then find a setting, or start with a setting and work backwards?

As well, when looking at settings, what do I need to keep in mind? width? height? Should it sit higher or lower on the ring? Do I need to look at the width of the ring in relation to her finger size, in which case, is there something that will "look" better - I heard something mentioned at 2mm vs 3mm?

Kind of overwhelmed but appreciating all the advice!
 
Flour is a personal thing but there isn't anything to "explain" its a physical attribute of the stone just like hardness or anything else. Frankly I don't think you'd really much notice it and it would make your stone look whiter in many lights.

As for the color difference, it won't be a problem.

And brian gavin is a great company. And sense you are having trouble finding the right ja. This is a great option
 
nielseel|1359149328|3363647 said:
Flour is a personal thing but there isn't anything to "explain" its a physical attribute of the stone just like hardness or anything else. Frankly I don't think you'd really much notice it and it would make your stone look whiter in many lights.

As for the color difference, it won't be a problem.

And brian gavin is a great company. And sense you are having trouble finding the right ja. This is a great option
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I agree! I've never heard of anyone who has been disappointed by Brian Gavin's Signature or Blue diamonds. They don't guarantee H&A in their Blue stones, but I've read that they often are H&A and they're cut to the same exacting standards. You can always have Brian compare a few stones from their Signature / Blue lines and ask him for his opinion on which one he thinks is the best.
 
Could you provide some advice regarding the aset image? does it look right?
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.038-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104062571004

1.11 I VS1 for $6400 vs 1.038 I SI1 for $6100...does the cutlet make any difference? The BG one mentions "pointed". Guess it might come down to deciding who has a good setting and going from there. The blue flou might cause it to appear whiter, and I will assume they're both eyeclean, but one is a tad bigger and a tad more expensive...wish someone could make the decision for me ;)
 
Haha ill choise for you brian gavin!
The stone plus setting sets you comfortably in budget and I prefer bg settings.

plus the flour is a really beneficial quality in a stone that color. If that stone is eye clean ( theu can tell you ) I'd vote bg
Dont worry about the culet both are pointed. :)
 
gm88|1359155237|3363703 said:
Could you provide some advice regarding the aset image? does it look right?
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.038-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104062571004

1.11 I VS1 for $6400 vs 1.038 I SI1 for $6100...does the cutlet make any difference? The BG one mentions "pointed". Guess it might come down to deciding who has a good setting and going from there. The blue flou might cause it to appear whiter, and I will assume they're both eyeclean, but one is a tad bigger and a tad more expensive...wish someone could make the decision for me ;)
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"Pointed" and "no culet" are the same thing. You generally don't want a culet in a round brilliant diamond.

The BGD image looks good to me, but others here are better at reading ASETs. Again, it's totally up to you, but if it were my choice, I would probably choose the BGD stone - you have more of a guarantee that you are getting a very good stone with BGD. If it makes any difference, BGD has a better upgrade policy (you only need to upgrade 2 out of the following 3: clarity, carat, color - with JA you need to spend 2x purchase price).

As for the setting, I would look at handshots on various threads, find the hands most similar to your gf's, and then try to figure out more info about the setting. There are generally concerns with very thin bands and very large diamonds, but you can go pretty thin with a 1 ct diamond, if that's what you like. On the other hand, if your gf has pretty long fingers, a thin setting might look out of place on her hand. Setting a diamond higher will generally make it look bigger from the top view since it'll be closer to your eyes. However, there are many people that prefer lower settings (maybe for comfort purposes, I don't know). You have the best idea out of anyone on this forum what she'll like, so you should trust your instincts (or those of her friends/family).
 
gm88|1359155970|3363719 said:
JulieN|1359140938|3363557 said:
How about these: http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Single-Claw-Prong-Pave-Set-Surprise-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-883
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/Platinum-Pave-Set-Four-Prong-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-3249
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I might have judged too quickly. The first one looks quite good!
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Only thing about the first setting - and you may not care - a normal straight wedding band will not sit flush with that setting because of the donut. If you want a band to sit flush, you have to get a curved band. I don't like curved bands because they look weird on their own.
 
sortmon|1359156135|3363722 said:
gm88|1359155970|3363719 said:
JulieN|1359140938|3363557 said:
How about these: http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Single-Claw-Prong-Pave-Set-Surprise-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-883
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/Platinum-Pave-Set-Four-Prong-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-3249
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I might have judged too quickly. The first one looks quite good!
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Only thing about the first setting - and you may not care - a normal straight wedding band will not sit flush with that setting because of the donut. If you want a band to sit flush, you have to get a curved band. I don't like curved bands because they look weird on their own.
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that's a basket not a doghnut hole, but if they're bothered by it she can wear a spacer and then whatever band she wants. otherwise, JA has the matching band that sits flush:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Wedding-Rings/Ladies-Diamond-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Curved-Pave-Set-Diamond-Wedding-Ring-item-76

If they get them soldered, it won't matter either way
 
People make too much of that little itty bitty space. She probably wouldn't notice od they weren't EXACTLY next to each other.
 
I'm not even thinking wedding just yet, let me plan/pay for this first :oops:

But the issue of wedding bands - people get them soldered? I know of matching sets but I always figured I'd be able to pick something that'll fit with the engagement ring when the time came. Guess I'll have to rethink - I didn't even know they made spacers, nevermind all the talk about the doghnuts and baskets...Is it weird if I get her a ring and then for a wedding ring, it's a simple titanium band or something?

But speaking of that, is there any difference (other than personal preference) between doghnuts, baskets, and whatever else is out there?
 
Dont worry about the wedding band right now. Shell want to pick that out. Some like matching some dont. And most ladies like them separate incase she's doing something whrre she might not want to wear her e ring. Traveling or something. She can still wear hee band, you know?

Donuts and baskets and what now are part structual part astetic
 
JulieN said:
I'm just going to put this here for you: http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.17-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Very-Good-cut-sku-188509

Didn't see if the first time I looked because I cut the upper bound of the price at 6000. I think the extra size will be nice because her ring size is on the large side.
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Great find, thanks, but I've been limiting the searches to Ideal/Excellent cut diamonds. This goes back to me needing to see them in person which I will do later today or tomorrow, but won't it sparkle/look worse than Ideal/Excellent stones? That being said the HCA is 1.5 so the stone is fairly interesting and the price is good
 
Here I am, posting deals for you, and you keep saying no, thanks! ;) :naughty:

This diamond got a "VG" GIA grade because the girdle is thick some places. That means that it faces up a teensy tiny bit smaller than some ideal cuts, but still in the acceptable range for its carat weight.

It also has a "VG" grade for polish. This is not visible to the naked eye.

In one "pie slice" under the table it is dark. Ask JA if this is visible if you are interested in this diamond. I highly doubt an untrained eye will be able to pick up on it.

It is a stunning diamond, it will be VERY sparkly and brilliant. I initially found it for another poster, but I'm pretty sure he saw my post, so I think it is fair game.
 
What do you guys think of:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/Platinum-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8162

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Settings-With-Sidestones/Platinum-0.54ct-Common-Prong-Round-Shaped-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-139

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Channel-Set-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Cathedral-Channel-Set-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-7882

Spent about 2hrs at a local jewelery store getting 'educated' - I am satisfied that I can go down to an SI and VG, and that I will look relatively colorless...also got a long talk about how I should buy locally to not get ripped off (when diamonds are way overpriced). She also confused me about platinum vs WG as she kept trying to sell me on 19K that's mixed with palladium and platinum.
 
gm88|1359515964|3367053 said:
What do you guys think of:

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/Platinum-Rounded-Pave-Engagement-Solitaire-item-8162

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Settings-With-Sidestones/Platinum-0.54ct-Common-Prong-Round-Shaped-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-139

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Channel-Set-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Cathedral-Channel-Set-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-7882

Spent about 2hrs at a local jewelery store getting 'educated' - I am satisfied that I can go down to an SI and VG, and that I will look relatively colorless...also got a long talk about how I should buy locally to not get ripped off (when diamonds are way overpriced). She also confused me about platinum vs WG as she kept trying to sell me on 19K that's mixed with palladium and platinum.
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I like the 2nd setting the best but my preference has always been for thin bands. You can look at the "Recently Purchased" tab of each setting to get an idea of what the setting might look like in your diamond size (though it doesn't look like anyone recently purchased your first setting).

I am not a fan of the third setting as it looks a bit 80s to me.

Setting preferences are really personal decisions so you should choose the one you like best! Or show your gf's friends/family to get their opinions.
 
I skimmed through the thread and was also wondering what you decided. It seems you were looking for something quite specific that I think is going to be harder to find through somewhere like JA (though not impossible, just requiring a great deal of sifting and patience).

I don't know if you have the BGD 1.01 on hold, but if not, it's already reserved. You can't go wrong with somewhere like BGD or Whiteflash with their in house branded stones. They are cut for beauty and performance. The fluorescence is a bonus in the BGD. It gives you a bit of discount on the stone and actually can be helpful in making the stone appear whiter. He also inspects the Blue line to make sure all the effects from it are positive. I don't know if he inspects them all personally, but I wouldn't be surprised. He's very hands on.

If you have the other on hold, they can pull it and/or this other one and discuss it with you. It never hurts to double check on the eyeclean part in an SI stone.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.038-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104062571004
 
bastetcat|1359562601|3367249 said:
I skimmed through the thread and was also wondering what you decided. It seems you were looking for something quite specific that I think is going to be harder to find through somewhere like JA (though not impossible, just requiring a great deal of sifting and patience).

I don't know if you have the BGD 1.01 on hold, but if not, it's already reserved. You can't go wrong with somewhere like BGD or Whiteflash with their in house branded stones. They are cut for beauty and performance. The fluorescence is a bonus in the BGD. It gives you a bit of discount on the stone and actually can be helpful in making the stone appear whiter. He also inspects the Blue line to make sure all the effects from it are positive. I don't know if he inspects them all personally, but I wouldn't be surprised. He's very hands on.

If you have the other on hold, they can pull it and/or this other one and discuss it with you. It never hurts to double check on the eyeclean part in an SI stone.

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.038-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104062571004
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i agree brian gavin is good and they have pave settig in budget.
 
gm88|1359148891|3363643 said:
nielseel said:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.038-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104062571004
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Should I really consider a diamond with a blue florescence? My gf and I don't find ourselves in nightclubs often anymore but if her ring suddenly started glowing blue that might be interesting to explain...aside from that, will the light performance be the same in all other conditions? Would it "reflect" more blue than other diamonds? And in the aset picture, does it line up properly?

nielseel said:
you cant go wrong with bg and they have a lot of beautiful diamond settings about 2k or under!


http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones-/marquise-and-round-18k-white-gold-5443w18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/peggy-18k-white-gold-5359w18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/legera-18k-white-gold-5861w18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/classic-truth-sleek-micro-pave-18k-white-gold-5542w18
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Wow, some great settings, possibly the last one is my favorite with the 2nd one being a runner up (I like the more classical lines on the last one). Do you think an "I" color diamond would appear yellow in that setting, given the F/G side stones? And do you know if bg would mount a loose diamond onto one of their settings? How do Brian Gavin diamonds compare to JA, as in, where would I be able to find the better deal? Should I look for a diamond and then find a setting, or start with a setting and work backwards?

As well, when looking at settings, what do I need to keep in mind? width? height? Should it sit higher or lower on the ring? Do I need to look at the width of the ring in relation to her finger size, in which case, is there something that will "look" better - I heard something mentioned at 2mm vs 3mm?

Kind of overwhelmed but appreciating all the advice!
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If I'm not mistaken BG is generally going to be using his own cut melee so no disappointments there. With pave, it's best not to think "deal" so much and more about quality. Pave is fairly delicate and even with the best, you can loose stones and BG's prong work is lovely too so I wouldn't go with pave because it's a "deal" necessarily.

It's not going to hurt you to put a couple of likely prospects on hold at JA if you want to and request images and gemologist review. It doesn't cost anything. If you want to discuss one of BG stones, they can pull it and would most likely set up a phone appointment to discuss it with him. :) Come armed with questions! :)

My instinct says BG is going to be better in the long run for pave over JA, but I don't have any experience at all with JA settings, it's just a hunch.

I'd go with the last choice in you case if you favor it most. It's going to provide more contrast (in diamond size versus shank size) with a 1ct diamond whereas the thicker shanked one might not.
 
Hi all, just a quick update:

I've picked out 3 diamonds for IdealScope images...these are (in order of my preference)
1. http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.11-carat-I-color-VS1-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-185005

2. http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.11-carat-H-color-SI1-clarity-sku-181317

3. http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.04-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-177232



Also currently trying to finalize a setting, I am torn between something like this:

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/rounded-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-563.htm

and something like this

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/legato-micro-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-1012.htm

Still yet to find a setting like either of those in the JA catalog but I might be able to customize
 
gm88|1359617462|3368311 said:
Hi all, just a quick update:

I've picked out 3 diamonds for IdealScope images...these are (in order of my preference)
1. http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.11-carat-I-color-VS1-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-185005

2. http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.11-carat-H-color-SI1-clarity-sku-181317

3. http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.04-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-177232



Also currently trying to finalize a setting, I am torn between something like this:

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/rounded-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-563.htm

and something like this

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/legato-micro-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-1012.htm

Still yet to find a setting like either of those in the JA catalog but I might be able to customize
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This is similar to your first setting: http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-0.52ct-Three-Row-Pave-Set-Rounded-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-7726

This is similar to your second setting: http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/Engagement-Rings/Pave-Rings/18k-White-Gold-Pave-Set-Four-Prong-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-item-1801

What do you want to change about either of these settings from JA? Maybe if you could verbalize what you want to change, JA can help you out with that?

Or if your really like the WF settings, you could look into getting a diamond from WF. They have 1 carat ACA diamonds (same as H&A) for less than 7K.
 
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