Loose diamond (Scope Images) - Advice

[Mrmaru]

Hi

I'm new to this community. Currently, I'm looking for a proposal ring for my girlfriend and have reached out to one of the local retailer for a diamond. I've already paid a deposit for the diamond as it looks good to me. This is my first time buying the sparkly stone hence, I'm very inexperience in this. Here're the GIA Cert and Scope Images for your reference. Really appreciate if you could share your thoughts about the stone. Thanks!

 

[yssie]

Picture perfect.

You may not get many responses. In this case that’s a good thing - there’s nothing to quibble over.

 

[cflutist]

Excellent choice, quick buy it before someone else does.

 

[tyty333]

All looks very good...good idealscope, good aset, good h&a, good numbers...very nice stone. Good choice!

 

[natasha-cupcake]

I'm far (very far) from an expert, as I'm new to this as well. But I've learned a lot from my own diamond journey and I think this diamond is spectacular. The images look great and the numbers do, too. Hopefully, more expert people will chime in.

 

[gm89uk]

Looks like a JannPaul superideal diamond, looks great

 

[ringo865]

Perfect angles and scopes. Have him confirm that neither the plotted clouds nor additional clouds not shown are affecting light return or brilliance. Almost guaranteed to be fine in a VS1 stone, but that would be my only question about this stone. Beautiful!!

Do you have setting plans?

 

[YoLaL]

looks very good to me.. if this is a Super Ideal Cut diamond whats the different from the other cut like CBI,AC,JA, BG ?

 

[tkyasx78]

Looks like a great diamond !

 

[YoLaL]

Images is perfect. But do you have a video of this diamond?

Hi

I'm new to this community. Currently, I'm looking for a proposal ring for my girlfriend and have reached out to one of the local retailer for a diamond. I've already paid a deposit for the diamond as it looks good to me. This is my first time buying the sparkly stone hence, I'm very inexperience in this. Here're the GIA Cert and Scope Images for your reference. Really appreciate if you could share your thoughts about the stone. Thanks!

 

[Lorelei]

Hi

I'm new to this community. Currently, I'm looking for a proposal ring for my girlfriend and have reached out to one of the local retailer for a diamond. I've already paid a deposit for the diamond as it looks good to me. This is my first time buying the sparkly stone hence, I'm very inexperience in this. Here're the GIA Cert and Scope Images for your reference. Really appreciate if you could share your thoughts about the stone. Thanks!

Hi Mramu and welcome!

It's absolutely smashing, what a great job!!! I've nothing else to add except when you get it, please post the finished result in Show me the Bling so we can all admire it!

 

[flyingpig]

Picture perfect.

You may not get many responses. In this case that’s a good thing - there’s nothing to quibble over.

Yea. It is boringly perfect. Nothing to add.

 

[bmfang]

You’re buying a JannPaul superideal. That’s enough said. Congrats!

 

[HappyNewLife]

Looks great!

 

[YoLaL]

@Lorelei I have a question , how to tell if diamond is Super Ideal Cut. Is there a standard creteria to follow?

 

[OoohShiny]

@Lorelei I have a question , how to tell if diamond is Super Ideal Cut. Is there a standard creteria to follow?

There is no one set of numbers to stick to, but the range to try to keep within is as posted previously. (I'm on the phone so it's hassle to find right now.)

 

[Mrmaru]

Hello all

Thank you for all your inputs, really appreciate it! Some of you have already known that this is fromcJannPaul's Super Ideal series.

@YoLaL here's a short clip of the stone taken by me during the physical inspection of the stone. -

@ringo865 - I had similar concerns about the inclusions, but have been reaffirmed by the staff that the inclusions will not affect the brilliance (to a significant extent) nor the durability of the stone. I have also looked at it physically and it's pretty sparkly to my untrained eyes. I do have a setting in mind - a simple solitaire, rose gold half round tapered band with white gold crown, 6 sharp tip prongs.

 

[Alvain]

It's an amazing diamond, definitely superideal quality from JannPaul.

 

[CareBear]

Looks PERFECT from the pics! Just make sure you don't overpay

 

[Mrmaru]

Looks PERFECT from the pics! Just make sure you don't overpay

Ah, you raised a valid point. It has always been my impression that JannPaul's prices are competitive relative to the quality they offer. So I did not have an intensive price comparison session with online retailers. Out of curiosity sake, in comparison to the international market, how does this price fare? I paid slightly less than USD 12k (inclusive of 7% local sales tax) all in, including settings.

 

[Lorelei]

@Lorelei I have a question , how to tell if diamond is Super Ideal Cut. Is there a standard creteria to follow?

Hi YoLal,

There is definitely a criteria to follow when someone makes the claim that a particular diamond is a Superideal Hearts and Arrows, especially as that particular term can be used rather loosely at times.

The thing is to be able to support that claim depending on the particular stone. Incidentally, the term ' Ideal Cut' has been used for years and sometimes such stones have been shown to be far from the commercial Ideal Cut, let alone the Thoroughbred Superideals.

Branded Hearts and Arrows Superideals from vendors such as Crafted by Infinity, Whiteflash, Brian Gavin's branded H&A and so on have to pass rigorous testing to be deemed worthy of carrying the branded name. The true 'Supers' have certain things in common.

They are cut to exacting proportions and the cut precision is superb.
They have the coveted AGS0 cut grade, Ideal in everything, light performance, polish and symmetry.
They have detailed images to show the pattern precision of both hearts and arrows/ optical symmetry.
They have ASET images to show the light return/ optical performance.
If you study some of the proportions of CBI, Brian Gavin brand or Whiteflash ACA to give you a couple of examples, you will notice they all are proportioned to the most exacting standards and the tightest possible cut precision.

For me, all true Superideals are branded and are consistent in their cut quality and proportioning. They are all cut to display the utmost precision, show crisp patterning and also the highest level of light return.

So, if anyone claims their diamond they're trying to sell you or anyone else is a Superideal, your next thought should be how are they going to support that claim by providing the evidence mentioned above. If not, they can call a diamond what they like till the cows come home, insisting it's a Superduperwhooper which will blow any other diamond out of the water for beauty and performance. But the onus is on them to prove it as I was always taught.

Also, you can get 'near H&A' stones that just miss out on being awarded branded Superideal status. This can be because of a misshapen heart or arrow, these can sometimes be found for sale at a discount and can be brilliant buys if having the perfect patterning precision of the true H&A doesn't matter to you.

So as can be seen, a diamond has to undergo exhaustive testing and fulfil strict criteria to be deemed worthy of Superideal status and be thus representative of a brand.

And of course, such stones rightly command a premium. Such levels of craftsmanship take extra time to produce, more skill from the cutter and more wastage of the rough stone.

Now we have diamonds cut for beauty and precision in fancy shapes, the August Vintage cushions and rounds were the first and now more shapes are joining them from Good old Gold which is fantastic news for buyers of fancies.

 

[gm89uk]

I think you got the price about right. Thats ~11.2k before tax.
Here's another comparative stone:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970282.htm

Which leaves about 2k for the setting.

 

[YoLaL]

Now I understand and thanks for this excell3nt input.

Hi YoLal,

There is definitely a criteria to follow when someone makes the claim that a particular diamond is a Superideal Hearts and Arrows, especially as that particular term can be used rather loosely at times.

The thing is to be able to support that claim depending on the particular stone. Incidentally, the term ' Ideal Cut' has been used for years and sometimes such stones have been shown to be far from the commercial Ideal Cut, let alone the Thoroughbred Superideals.

Branded Hearts and Arrows Superideals from vendors such as Crafted by Infinity, Whiteflash, Brian Gavin's branded H&A and so on have to pass rigorous testing to be deemed worthy of carrying the branded name. The true 'Supers' have certain things in common.

They are cut to exacting proportions and the cut precision is superb.
They have the coveted AGS0 cut grade, Ideal in everything, light performance, polish and symmetry.
They have detailed images to show the pattern precision of both hearts and arrows/ optical symmetry.
They have ASET images to show the light return/ optical performance.
If you study some of the proportions of CBI, Brian Gavin brand or Whiteflash ACA to give you a couple of examples, you will notice they all are proportioned to the most exacting standards and the tightest possible cut precision.

For me, all true Superideals are branded and are consistent in their cut quality and proportioning. They are all cut to display the utmost precision, show crisp patterning and also the highest level of light return.

So, if anyone claims their diamond they're trying to sell you or anyone else is a Superideal, your next thought should be how are they going to support that claim by providing the evidence mentioned above. If not, they can call a diamond what they like till the cows come home, insisting it's a Superduperwhooper which will blow any other diamond out of the water for beauty and performance. But the onus is on them to prove it as I was always taught.

Also, you can get 'near H&A' stones that just miss out on being awarded branded Superideal status. This can be because of a misshapen heart or arrow, these can sometimes be found for sale at a discount and can be brilliant buys if having the perfect patterning precision of the true H&A doesn't matter to you.

So as can be seen, a diamond has to undergo exhaustive testing and fulfil strict criteria to be deemed worthy of Superideal status and be thus representative of a brand.

And of course, such stones rightly command a premium. Such levels of craftsmanship take extra time to produce, more skill from the cutter and more wastage of the rough stone.

Now we have diamonds cut for beauty and precision in fancy shapes, the August Vintage cushions and rounds were the first and now more shapes are joining them from Good old Gold which is fantastic news for buyers of fancies.

 

[Mrmaru]

Thanks for the advices! Just collected the ring...

Here you go! - rose gold band and white gold prongs. Do pardon my stubby manly fingers!

 

[ac117]

Thanks for the advices! Just collected the ring...

Here you go! - rose gold band and white gold prongs. Do pardon my stubby manly fingers!

Beautiful!!!

 

[Lorelei]

It looks huge even on your stubbly man fingers, well done! Gorgeous stone!

 

[bmfang]

Congrats!