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I was waiting for this. I was AMAZED she hadn't asked for them up until now. Thought maybe there was some Leopard out there with blue and white polka dots. But nope. LESS than six months to the wedding, mom DID manage to raise the guest list above 100 people.

So she casually says... "Um... can I add, AT MY EXPENSE OF COURSE, twelveofmyfriends to the invite list... I'vegonetoalloftheirchildren'sweddings and owe them an invite, PLEASE."

So. I gave her a bit of a hard time.

A) You want me to invite TWELVE OF YOUR FRIENDS. WHOM I HAVEN'T SEEN SINCE I WAS 19, to my wedding, when WE, YOU AND ME MOM, refused to invite Step-dad's nieces and nephews."

He'll be okay with it.

No, he won't. He flung the fact that your friends since YOUR TEENS who HELPED RAISE ME were invited and his nieces and nephews weren't.

He'll be okay. He'll understand.

Okay. You PROMISE ME THAT???

Yes.

(Now, I KNOW my step dad is going to throw a fuss, but I MADE SURE to have this conversation just so I could have the IMMENSE satisfaction of saying "I TOLD YOU SO" to my mother when it happens. Does that make me a small person?)

B) Included aisle decorations, centerpiece, and extra cake, and INVITE costs to her total per person. I felt a little small for that. But, I barely know these people and wanted A SMALL FREAKING WEDDING.

C) Pointed out that she will have more friends at the wedding that we will.

D) Pointed out that she'll have more friends that JOHN will have FAMILY at the wedding, as a result.

E) Pointed out that John has NEVER EVER EVER met these people.

Then I gave in and said, What the heck. I have the room, she's paying, it's not worth the battle.

I threw my back out tonight so I'm on HEAVY DUTY LOOPY PAIN KILLERS right now. Happy as a clam.

Wonder if this will bug me tomorrow?

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

*SNORT*
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Oh ... and did I mention these are EXTREMELY nosey, local people who will be SURE to attend. Not ONE of them will be a no show.
 
Snarky to the max. I
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Gypsy on painkillers.

I''m sorry for the trouble my dear. I''m sure I''ll have to deal with this one day...

Let us know, verbatim, the conversation when you get to tell her "I told you so." because I''m looking forward to it!
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Really? Snarky?

And here I thought I was just being endearingly intoxicated.

I promise that WHEN that conversation happens (AND IT WILL) I PAGE you Freke honey. JUST to relay it to you.
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BTW.... I LOVE Gypsy on Painkillers too. Which is why I almost NEVER take them. Whenever I''m on them I think how pleasant life could be if I was just on these all the time. La la la... tra la la. Scares the heck out of me to think how EASY it would be to get hooked on these things.
 
haha. i entirely understand the frustration on this one. My wedding is three months away and my father added 20 guests last week...sigh. I figure its just something parents do...
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Oh, the best part... which I totally forgot and apparently can''t add on painkillers, was that when I asked her how many invites I would need.. she said "well... there are 6 couples and one single person."

So you are adding twelve people huh mom.

It''s actually thirteen. I JUST REALIZED THAT.

The woman pulled a fast one on me. ROFLMAO

Of course, while my grandfather is a math genius I''m a complete math dunce so it FLEW right past me.
 
Lol! Ok so it wasn''t to the MAX. I imagine you could be a lot worse. Perhaps the painkillers are making you loopy but also being a sedative at the same time?

Anyway, no, none of what you said makes you a small person. I think the only person I wouldn''t intentionally screw over if they tried shiz like that would be my mom-but it''s because she''s sick and BF would have a FIT if he thought I was causing her ANY undue stress.

(Trying to think of a PS public forum friendly term...) You wanted a small wedding, suddenly it isn''t-I say that you are fully entitled to punish said wedding size inflators in ANY way you see fit.

And if you need any ideas...you know where to find me.

Ha ha ha!!I sound like a drug dealer. What painkillers are you on anyway?
 
Oh lordy. A: Gypsy endearingly loopy on painkillers. B. Gypsy''s mom getting all sneaky and adding to the guest list. C. Gyspy''s mom insisting everything will be alright.

I look forward to hearing sober thoughts in the morning...but for now, I can see this becoming an extremely entertaining thread.
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Love you, Layla. Everything will be fine, I promise.
 
Percocet. Mmmmmmmmmm. Percocet.

*shudders* scary.

I only did a FULL cost accounting because I don''t want it to be a trend. I want her to understand that each time you add someone, or a group of people, it''s not just FOOD and ALCOHOL you are adding... but a lot of costs that REALLY don''t occur to her.


When we were first talking about wedding budgets with her (after she offered to help out with some expenses) she was really just CONSTANTLY surprised at ALL the LITTLE TINY PITA details that cost $$. Totally slipped her mind that things like POSTAGE need to be added in to the costs of everything. And gratuities and tax... And SHE was a banker for 20 some years. SO I really feel I need to remind of ALL the expenses when she starts talking about expanding guest lists and so forth. So that next time she''s thinking about adding people to the list... it occurs to her that her 13 people are costing her 2K.

And that Step-dad''s nieces and nephews STILL aren''t invited. Cause I AIN''T paying for them. And if I invite them I have to add John''s SIXTY SOMETHING FIRST COUSINS (prolific breeders, his paternal aunts were) on his father''s side.
 
Date: 3/29/2008 2:50:07 AM
Author: monarch64
Oh lordy. A: Gypsy endearingly loopy on painkillers. B. Gypsy's mom getting all sneaky and adding to the guest list. C. Gyspy's mom insisting everything will be alright.


I look forward to hearing sober thoughts in the morning...but for now, I can see this becoming an extremely entertaining thread.
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Love you, Layla. Everything will be fine, I promise.

Monnie. I ReALLY want you at my wedding. You are the BEST. LOTS OF HUGE HUGS FOR MONNIE! LOVE MONNIE.

C. is the one that's going to blow up in all our faces.

Happy to keep all entertained. Heck I'm entertained. I was just singing the Rubber Ducky song.

If you are going to be on painkillers and loopy... might as well really GIVE IT YOUR ALL and get into the swing of things, I say.

"RUBBER DUCKY YOU'Re THE ONE..."
 
Oh boy...Mental note to self-dispose of Percocet in medicine cabinet ASAP.

I''m sorry Gypsy. I can''t believe it''s 13 people and she totally snuck that one past you. I say you call her in the morning and tell her you undercharged her because she neglected to mention it would be 13 people, and add on the extra $$$.

All is fair in love, war and weddings.
 
LMFAO, really! You''re right Layla, might as well give it your all while you''re on the good stuff. Although I am really sorry to hear you threw your back out!!!

Hey, I''ve offered before and I''ll offer again...bouncing a la Monnie is free of charge...and I will not count as a guest. Don''t even bother with the caterers giving me a boxed meal. LOL! Seriously, I''m right here with you every step of the way whenever you need me. We 9-21 and Mon Cheri brides gotta stick together, eh?
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Date: 3/29/2008 3:01:00 AM
Author: FrekeChild
Oh boy...Mental note to self-dispose of Percocet in medicine cabinet ASAP.


I''m sorry Gypsy. I can''t believe it''s 13 people and she totally snuck that one past you. I say you call her in the morning and tell her you undercharged her because she neglected to mention it would be 13 people, and add on the extra $$$.


All is fair in love, war and weddings.

Actually the total for 12 people would have been 1700 about. And at the end of the convo she said she''d add another 2K to the 5K they already committed to in order to cover the extra guest, so I THINK she already knew about the discrepancy. And maybe just thought (mistakenly of course) that I could ADD. Silly MOM. Math is for ... well, it''s not for this lawyer. LOL.
 
Date: 3/29/2008 3:03:23 AM
Author: monarch64
LMFAO, really! You're right Layla, might as well give it your all while you're on the good stuff. Although I am really sorry to hear you threw your back out!!!


Hey, I've offered before and I'll offer again...bouncing a la Monnie is free of charge...and I will not count as a guest. Don't even bother with the caterers giving me a boxed meal. LOL! Seriously, I'm right here with you every step of the way whenever you need me. We 9-21 and Mon Cheri brides gotta stick together, eh?
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We DEFINITELY need to stick together. And I would NEVER give you a boxed meal. FULL four course... have I mentioned we haven't had our tasting yet and I'm terrified the food will be crap... meal for MONNIE!

I might ask you to coordinate the "I have no idea how this is going to happen or who I'm going to sucker into doing it" Paper umbrellas hanging from the ceiling idea I've had percolating. I think I can get step-dad up on the ladder to actually HANG THEM... but I need a coordinator to work out the color combo of it all. These 13 people have me wanting to IMPRESS, as they are well, strangers... so NOW I'm really wanting to do the stupid, this is really not going to go well, umbrella idea.


It'll be PURTY though as long as no one gets killed or electrocuted.

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Date: 3/29/2008 3:09:29 AM
Author: Gypsy


Date: 3/29/2008 3:03:23 AM
Author: monarch64
LMFAO, really! You're right Layla, might as well give it your all while you're on the good stuff. Although I am really sorry to hear you threw your back out!!!


Hey, I've offered before and I'll offer again...bouncing a la Monnie is free of charge...and I will not count as a guest. Don't even bother with the caterers giving me a boxed meal. LOL! Seriously, I'm right here with you every step of the way whenever you need me. We 9-21 and Mon Cheri brides gotta stick together, eh?
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We DEFINITELY need to stick together. And I would NEVER give you a boxed meal. FULL four course... have I mentioned we haven't had our tasting yet and I'm terrified the food will be crap... meal for MONNIE!

I might ask you to coordinate the 'I have no idea how this is going to happen or who I'm going to sucker into doing it' Paper umbrellas hanging from the ceiling idea I've had percolating. I think I can get step-dad up on the ladder to actually HANG THEM... but I need a coordinator to work out the color combo of it all. These 13 people have me wanting to IMPRESS, as they are well, strangers... so NOW I'm really wanting to do the stupid, this is really not going to go well, umbrella idea.


It'll be PURTY though as long as no one gets killed or electrocuted.

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Well thank you, my dear, I am very honored to receive the full meal and will graciously accept as soon as I figure out how to pay for a flight to SD. Muah ha ha. Off to re-read the paper lantern thread...maybe, just maybe I will have a suggestion to offer. Keep your inebriated little fingers crossed. Hee hee.

ETA: phew...just glanced through the first page of your paper lantern thread and thinking the cluster in the center of tent looks the most do-able. Know anyone in retail out there in CA (say, a great visual merchandiser) who might help you out? Just kidding, let me ponder the whole topic some more and I'll see what I can come up with.
 
Date: 3/29/2008 3:15:14 AM
Author: monarch64
Date: 3/29/2008 3:09:29 AM

Author: Gypsy



Date: 3/29/2008 3:03:23 AM

Author: monarch64

LMFAO, really! You''re right Layla, might as well give it your all while you''re on the good stuff. Although I am really sorry to hear you threw your back out!!!



Hey, I''ve offered before and I''ll offer again...bouncing a la Monnie is free of charge...and I will not count as a guest. Don''t even bother with the caterers giving me a boxed meal. LOL! Seriously, I''m right here with you every step of the way whenever you need me. We 9-21 and Mon Cheri brides gotta stick together, eh?
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We DEFINITELY need to stick together. And I would NEVER give you a boxed meal. FULL four course... have I mentioned we haven''t had our tasting yet and I''m terrified the food will be crap... meal for MONNIE!


I might ask you to coordinate the ''I have no idea how this is going to happen or who I''m going to sucker into doing it'' Paper umbrellas hanging from the ceiling idea I''ve had percolating. I think I can get step-dad up on the ladder to actually HANG THEM... but I need a coordinator to work out the color combo of it all. These 13 people have me wanting to IMPRESS, as they are well, strangers... so NOW I''m really wanting to do the stupid, this is really not going to go well, umbrella idea.



It''ll be PURTY though as long as no one gets killed or electrocuted.


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Well thank you, my dear, I am very honored to receive the full meal and will graciously accept as soon as I figure out how to pay for a flight to SD. Muah ha ha. Off to re-read the paper lantern thread...maybe, just maybe I will have a suggestion to offer. Keep your inebriated little fingers crossed. Hee hee.


ETA: phew...just glanced through the first page of your paper lantern thread and thinking the cluster in the center of tent looks the most do-able. Know anyone in retail out there in CA (say, a great visual merchandiser) who might help you out? Just kidding, let me ponder the whole topic some more and I''ll see what I can come up with.


Thank you Monnie, I would REALLY appreciate any help you have to offer. I like the ball laterns A LOT. But REALLY LOVE the umbrellas, and I think I could get away with only a cluster of 5 or 7 of them below the light fixture, but think that I would need 12 or 16 balls, and that it might actually be more complicated, because it''ll be more hanging. Not sure if that makes sense.

But then... with the balls I can throw a couple of white balls up there to break up the orange and green... both vivid colors. Whereas with the umbrellas I think I''d have to go solid one color almost. So maybe the balls are better.

I love the stars, but I nixed them as I think the visual effect would be lost.
 
http://www.lunabazaar.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1279

http://www.lunabazaar.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=694

Most cost effective and least hanging option would be 3 orange 32 inch and 2 28 inch green.

http://www.lunabazaar.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=713

Five of these pricey suckers are the way I''m leaning though. I just love the fancier parasol look of them. They don''t come in green, and I think the white would be lost... so just solid orange... at different heights. Least hanging of all required.
 
Honestly...I think that your ma needs to un-invite her 13 people so you can use those funds to hire a lighting designer. LOL! I''m going to look through the links you posted right now. Stand by if you''re still up, ha ha.
 
Thoughts on balls vs. umbrellas: I like the balls way more than the lanterns...but if YOU have to have the umbrella style I guess we'll work with that. ETA: you know, I've not worked with lighting much before even in my visual merchandising days, so I'm not sure I'll be of much help. But I am fabulous at giving personal opinions and suggestions, lol.
 
I''m lying down, standing makes my back hate me, even if I can''t feel it right now.... But I''m still up.
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It''s FRIDAY!!!! One of the two nights a week I don''t turn into a pumpkin at midnight.

Wedding is in NorCal... in Livermore... hint, hint. LOL.

You know... just in case you''re in the area.
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Why do you like the balls?


I like the parasols cause they remind me of the Wynn in Vegas. Plus they had some up at a wedding we attended a few years ago and I loved them. Plus I think there''s less chance they''d be arranged in a way that would make me ITCH re-arrange them.

I like the balls because I can do all three colors and they LOOK REALLY AWESOME clustered like that. But that worries me cause I''d like the colors staggered a certain way. KWIM? So I''d have to *GASP*... UNBEND my control freak tendencies and allow SOMEONE ELSE determine which colors go where and next to what the day of, cause as much as my control freak tendencies would SCREAM at ME to be the one directing the placement of the colors, it''s not exactly practical use of my time on my wedding day. LOL. So I''m worried about WHO will be that person. If it''s not me. And I don''t really know.
 
Obviously I haven''t seen the wynn display you''re thinking of...I like the balls because of the lovely designs within tents you posted on your paper lantern thread, the pics of the traditional lanterns were really stunning, whether they were clustered in the center or spread out. weddingbee.com has a whole thread re. this lantern concept with lots of good ideas...I can post it, or not...I didn''t read through your paper lantern thread in entirety so I don''t want to post things here that may be redundant.

P.S. I know exactly where you''re getting married, silly, you''ve posted the site here before! You are such a doll. I don''t know that DH would appreciate me flying out to oversee some gal''s lighting concept for her wedding on our 5th anniversary...RoFL.

In my mind, what would look the prettiest is traditional round lanterns, mainly orange and ivory with a few green thrown in, in a cluster in the center of the tent. How do you feel about that?
 
Also, I can''t remember your bridesmaid/MOH situation...forgive me. But is there one of those gals available who might be able to oversee the lighting within the tent so you wouldn''t have to worry so much about how it''s done? Where there''s a will, there''s a way, ya know...there has to be a great solution to this whole lantern thang.
 
Okay. SO... I wouldn't actually ask a PSer, a friend and guest to OVERSEE the lanterns. IF she did show up on her FIFTH anniversary. I would order a bottle of champagne to her hotel room and tell her to have a blast, and be sure to wear her dancing shoes and to have her hubby geared to dance.

My ONE BM actually has an HUGE art background and good eye, so I was seriously thinking of asking her to do it. Especially as we'll both be ready at the same time... which is the time we are allowed to start decorating (I'll be busy with photos of the two of us alone) and her fiance is a great guy who could probably to the hanging, and our other friend who is nosy would probably be happy to lend a hand as well. I just haven't talked to her about it as she's too freaking busy right now, so I'm (probably irrationally) stressed that she'll say no. She probably won't as this is right up her alley. And really, what ELSE is going to do from 1:00 to FOUR when the ceremony starts. I think she'll be happy to help.

But that doesn't mean I don't REALLY appreciate the help you are giving me in this, and other thread on the wedding.
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OF COURSE, if you want to do something PRIVATE and SPECIAL on your ANNIVERSARY (which I hope involves bling if you want some!)... I'll (DRAMATIC SIGH) understand.

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Ohhhhhh nice thread. LED battery packs for the lanterns! WHO KNEW!!!

I''ll have to send it to my BM/MOH... I think I''m also still irked by the comment her friend made about my only having one attendant as selfish and inconsiderate as it would be too much for her to handle alone... so I''ve been reluctant to ask her to do anything or ask her for any help.

Sounds a little silly now that I think about it. Will ask her about her help with this ASAP.

MONNIE... you''ve REALLY helped me figure this out.

ROUND lanterns. Three colors. 5 orange 4 white 3 green. Still can''t add so I don''t know how many that is. Clustered, just below the light fixture. LED battery packs. Ladder. BM/MOH''s fiance on the ladder. Her below all gussied up and ready to go. Our friend tagging along as ''unofficial'' help to her... in case the stress of it all goes to her head. ROFLMAO.

YAY FOR MONNIE.

Must order lanterns. After asking BM/MOH to do the hanging of it all.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for helping figure this out. Just "talking" it out was IMMENSELY helpful. Not surprisingly, as wonderful as JOhn is, he wasn''t very helpful with this.

LOVE MONNIE!
 
Date: 3/29/2008 4:18:43 AM
Author: Gypsy
Okay. SO... I wouldn''t actually ask a PSer and a guest to OVERSEE the lanterns. IF she did show up on her FIFTH anniversary. I would order a bottle of champagne to her hotel room and tell her to have a blast, and be sure to wear her dancing shoes and to have her hubby geared to dance.

My ONE BM actually has an HUGE art background and good eye, so I was seriously thinking of asking her to do it. Especially as we''ll both be ready at the same time... which is the time we are allowed to start decorating (I''ll be busy with photos of the two of us alone) and her fiance is a great guy who could probably to the hanging, and our other friend who is nosy would probably be happy to lend a hand as well. I just haven''t talked to her about it as she''s too freaking busy right now, so I''m (probably irrationally) stressed that she''ll say no. She probably won''t as this is right up her alley. And really, what ELSE is going to do from 1:00 to FOUR when the ceremony starts. I think she''ll be happy to help.

But that doesn''t mean I don''t REALLY appreciate the help you are giving me in this, and other thread on the wedding.
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OF COURSE, if you want to do something PRIVATE and SPECIAL on your ANNIVERSARY (which I hope involves bling if you want some!)... I''ll (DRAMATIC SIGH) understand.

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You are tooooo funny! This last post has got me laughing uncontrollably, and I can hear DH waking up upstairs because of it. Any minute now he''s going to shout down at me "what the hell are you doing?" Ha ha ha.

If this is right up your BM''s alley as far as lighting and design...Layla, you HAVE to explore that possibility! She''s your BM, she is not going to steer you wrong in any way...she''s already committed to being there for you in every way, shape, and form and would probably relish the thought of getting to utilize her professional skills to help you out. You sound like me, you don''t like to burden others with your insane expectations and want to do everything yourself to make sure it''s right and not bug anyone else about it. Well, my dear, I think you''re going to have to take a deep breath and let coincidence/aka nature take its course...you''ve got the perfect player for the perfect project just waiting in the wings for you to ask. (Did that make any sort of sense? Sorry, it''s late!) anyway, I''m just trying to say that I know you don''t really want to ask your BM for additional assistance but it sounds like you need her for this lantern project and it would work out well for her to help you with it. So ask her! My god, I can''t think of a more perfect opportunity. You silly.

You know, you still have like 5 months until you get married and you are soooooooooo ahead of the game. i hope you know that. I had 9 months to plan and was totally lacadaisacal in my approach...DH had to poke and prod at me to get things going. I''m super impressed with everything you''ve done. Your wedding is going to be phenomenal. I have a feeling you are focusing on some smallish details so you can avoid other rather emotional ones? Mmm hmm.. that''s ok. It happens. Again, everything will be fine. You have the rest of your life with John to enjoy, don''t get too wrapped up in things that may seem important now but are trivial in the long run.

Get some rest, my friend!
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Off to bed soon.


But... http://www.save-on-crafts.com/floralytes5.html LED lights. White and priced well. I''m thinking three per lantern.

As for my BM... I PROMISE I will ask her. I AM being silly.

And you are 100% right about all of it. I don''t want to burden others so I AM doing it all myself.

I AM trying to avoid emotional stuff COMPLETELY. A) Mom''s surgery and B) John''s job career issues.

John starts his new job next week, so I am praying that he loves it, is happy and contend and well... just finally COMFORTABLE in CA and the move and EVERYTHING.

Mom, well... that''s not going away. So I''m just going to have to keep avoiding the fear that''s there and losing myself in the details of the wedding.


HUGE hugs, and thank you. For the help, the kick in the pants, and the insight.

Rest well, my friend.
 
You rest well too, and you''re welcome. Anytime. Monnie loves her some Gypsy!!!!
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Goodnight.
 
Love you too. And goodnight.


RUBBER DUCKY SIGNING OFF FOR THE NIGHT!
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