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And this is partially what I was talking about earlier. If I go in and pat his back, is he getting from that "I know that you''re upset right now, but I''m here for you and I love you" or is he getting "I could pick you up right now but I''m choosing not to bwahahahaha"?Date: 2/3/2010 5:13:01 PM
Author: EBree
Date: 2/3/2010 4:49:43 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
Blen Just as an aside, as a psychologist I really question Ferber, it just doesn''t make sense to me because it uses a reinforcement schedule that I think teaches the child to cry longer and longer, rather than allowing them to learn to self-soothe. I imagine it works, but if it taked 3 weeks instead of 3 nights, I am not sure that is the best thing for baby. At least that was our thinking when we were going through it with Hunter. It is terrible to listen to them cry, but I wonder if standing there patting their back is more about making the parent feel better than it is about actually helping the baby? Anways, I have no other suggestions, but just wanted to tell you my thoughts! You will do what is best.
I think it might have been both, for me. I became incredibly anxious when I had to listen to him wail. Crawl-the-walls anxious. At one point, during one of his failed naps, I punched my pillow. I was tense and angry, mostly at myself and a little at Ferber/Weissbluth/Mezzo.
When I''d go in and rub him, he''d stop crying completely. It was a minute of peace I (and I felt like he, at the time) needed, but you''re right- it might have hindered progress. Either way, it didn''t take us even close to three weeks for it to work at night (*furiously knocks on wood*), but I''m sure it depends on the baby.
Oh there are! But unfortuantely it''s only when you have to give OTHER people advice.Date: 2/3/2010 6:52:16 PM
Author: Blenheim
Mandarine - hope you find some answers. I was also thinking that Sabine may be a good resource.
And this is partially what I was talking about earlier. If I go in and pat his back, is he getting from that ''I know that you''re upset right now, but I''m here for you and I love you'' or is he getting ''I could pick you up right now but I''m choosing not to bwahahahaha''?Date: 2/3/2010 5:13:01 PM
Author: EBree
Date: 2/3/2010 4:49:43 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
Blen Just as an aside, as a psychologist I really question Ferber, it just doesn''t make sense to me because it uses a reinforcement schedule that I think teaches the child to cry longer and longer, rather than allowing them to learn to self-soothe. I imagine it works, but if it taked 3 weeks instead of 3 nights, I am not sure that is the best thing for baby. At least that was our thinking when we were going through it with Hunter. It is terrible to listen to them cry, but I wonder if standing there patting their back is more about making the parent feel better than it is about actually helping the baby? Anways, I have no other suggestions, but just wanted to tell you my thoughts! You will do what is best.
I think it might have been both, for me. I became incredibly anxious when I had to listen to him wail. Crawl-the-walls anxious. At one point, during one of his failed naps, I punched my pillow. I was tense and angry, mostly at myself and a little at Ferber/Weissbluth/Mezzo.
When I''d go in and rub him, he''d stop crying completely. It was a minute of peace I (and I felt like he, at the time) needed, but you''re right- it might have hindered progress. Either way, it didn''t take us even close to three weeks for it to work at night (*furiously knocks on wood*), but I''m sure it depends on the baby.But until his freaking out of the last week at the prospect of sleeping in the crib, patting him on the back has really helped to soothe him and works reasonably quickly. Sometimes I wish there were clear-cut and obvious answers.
LOL! Well, to be honest, I think neither is going through their little heads! I suspect it is something like, "WANT" and then cry until it happensDate: 2/3/2010 6:52:16 PM
Author: Blenheim
Mandarine - hope you find some answers. I was also thinking that Sabine may be a good resource.
And this is partially what I was talking about earlier. If I go in and pat his back, is he getting from that 'I know that you're upset right now, but I'm here for you and I love you' or is he getting 'I could pick you up right now but I'm choosing not to bwahahahaha'?Date: 2/3/2010 5:13:01 PM
Author: EBree
Date: 2/3/2010 4:49:43 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
Blen Just as an aside, as a psychologist I really question Ferber, it just doesn't make sense to me because it uses a reinforcement schedule that I think teaches the child to cry longer and longer, rather than allowing them to learn to self-soothe. I imagine it works, but if it taked 3 weeks instead of 3 nights, I am not sure that is the best thing for baby. At least that was our thinking when we were going through it with Hunter. It is terrible to listen to them cry, but I wonder if standing there patting their back is more about making the parent feel better than it is about actually helping the baby? Anways, I have no other suggestions, but just wanted to tell you my thoughts! You will do what is best.
I think it might have been both, for me. I became incredibly anxious when I had to listen to him wail. Crawl-the-walls anxious. At one point, during one of his failed naps, I punched my pillow. I was tense and angry, mostly at myself and a little at Ferber/Weissbluth/Mezzo.
When I'd go in and rub him, he'd stop crying completely. It was a minute of peace I (and I felt like he, at the time) needed, but you're right- it might have hindered progress. Either way, it didn't take us even close to three weeks for it to work at night (*furiously knocks on wood*), but I'm sure it depends on the baby.But until his freaking out of the last week at the prospect of sleeping in the crib, patting him on the back has really helped to soothe him and works reasonably quickly. Sometimes I wish there were clear-cut and obvious answers.
haha... I am ALWAYS right when I am telling other people what to do!Date: 2/3/2010 6:54:33 PM
Author: TravelingGal
Oh there are! But unfortuantely it''s only when you have to give OTHER people advice.Date: 2/3/2010 6:52:16 PM
Author: Blenheim
Mandarine - hope you find some answers. I was also thinking that Sabine may be a good resource.
And this is partially what I was talking about earlier. If I go in and pat his back, is he getting from that ''I know that you''re upset right now, but I''m here for you and I love you'' or is he getting ''I could pick you up right now but I''m choosing not to bwahahahaha''?But until his freaking out of the last week at the prospect of sleeping in the crib, patting him on the back has really helped to soothe him and works reasonably quickly. Sometimes I wish there were clear-cut and obvious answers.
Hope it works out for you...it all does in the end anyway.
Ahh I''m so behind! I hope I can catch up---I''m 5 pages back so sorry for any late responses!
Sex: We started having sex again at 6 weeks.... It wasn''t painful the first time, but then the second time and since then hurts for a bit and then is fine.
Second Baby: So jealous of those of you that are close to starting to conceive the second one. I''m ready now even though I have a 3 month old! Hopefully around Mayish of next year we will start.
Steph: Welcome back to the newborn thread!
Fiery/China: I used to be obsessed with Lost--but at one point my hours at work got changed and I missed an entire season....Now I don''t see how I can get back into it and still be capable of following it...Once I get some money I''ll have to look into getting the DVD''s.
Sunkist: The stretching is the best! Also lubes...We had to try a few different ones until we found one that didn''t hurt me or bother me.
Fiery: That video had me cracking up!
Date: 2/4/2010 7:37:13 AM
Author: Sabine
Mandarine: Just my 2 cents, but it sounds like your little guys don''t have reflux that is TOO bad, so if I were you I''d try just giving the Zantac first and see if it helps (it will help with the pain/fussiness but not the actual amount of spit up). We tried adding rice cereal to the bottles (couldn''t do AR because he is on Nutrimagen for milk protein allergy), and it was a complete disaster. First we had issues finding a nipple that would allow him to eat the thickened formula, and then we put a little cut in the nipples, but it was too fast and he ended up spitting up MORE because he was getting too much too fast. Then the rice definitely upset his stomach and constipated him, so he ended up even more fussy and slept even worse.
We ended up with Jacks on liquid prilosec and it''s worked well. He still spits up, but he eats well (has been taking 8 oz bottles for a month now) and doesn''t seem to be bothered when he does spit up. We don''t really have to keep him elevated right after eating either, and he isn''t really bothered being flat on his back, although he sleeps sooooooo much better on his stomach (as do a lot of reflux babies...this may be an option for you if you''re comfortable with it).
It''s interesting...we actually forgot his Prilosec for this trip, so I''ve been interested to see if he is still suffering from his reflux. And he is...but it''s not that bad. I can see him sort of ''chewing'' which is what he does when he''s having reflux but not really spitting up, and burps are definitely a bit more wet and painful, but he really isn''t any more fussy than normal, so I''m wondering if we should just stop the meds all together.
Jacks and Des had a play date last night! It was quick because Robbie came over after work and Jacks was almost ready for bed (silly bug starts his bedtime routine at 6 and is asleep by 6:20 usually), but it was soooo cute. I''ll post pics when we get home as I didn''t bring my camera cord. We were really hoping Des''s mobility would wear off on Jacks and he''d learn a thing or two, but so far no luck. Jacks is rocking a bit on all 4''s, but definitely can''t get the whole moving thing down.
We''re definitely experiencing some mil/fil issues, but they aren''t too bad. And we''re supposed to get major snow both here and apparently back in VA as well right before we go home, so I''m a bit worried about our travels, but hopefully it will all work out!
PG, good luck today!
Blen, we had to do strict CIO with NO check-ins because they definitely disturbed him rather than soothed him. I borrowed a video monitor, and that really helped, and then, to dh''s annoyance, I went out to buy one because I really liked being able to see him, and I really love having it!
Good luck...hope everything goes smoothly!Date: 2/4/2010 6:58:00 AM
Author: phoenixgirl
Today''s my first day back at work. Wish me luck!
Date: 2/4/2010 1:13:01 PM
Author: fiery
Just got back from Sophia''s appointment.
She has Level III kidney reflux and they also found fluid in her left kidney. I have to wait for the pedi to get the results to figure out what all of that means to Sophia.
She did really well during the testing though. She was really still while they did the ultrasound, complained when they put in the cath but went back to playing. The only time she cried was when they were trying to force her to pee with putting pressure on her bladder and pouring cold water on her. But she got over it.
Viz-I agree with DD. It doesn''t have to be your career or your family. You can have both. Plenty of women do. The first thing you have to realize is that you are a wonderful mother whether you spend all day in the office or all day with Charlie. And re-prioritize. If leaving your career is not really feasible then shift some other things around and figure out a good routine. And take the most of the weekends! I come home a lot of nights when Sophia is sleeping and it breaks my heart but I just take that time to get as much stuff done so that my weekends are all for Sophia.
((Big hugs)) It''s so hard balancing work and home life and even harder when you have a baby too