Roe v. Wade.

[LLJsmom]

It’s not as simple as deciding not to have sex when we live in a nation with sexual assault and rape as rampant as they are. The statistics are appalling. Pregnancy is not always a choice.

Yes I know and agree. Sadly.

 

[Matata]

They have already started arresting women who are having miscarriages.

On other discussion boards where I lurk, there are too many people who support this if the woman has engaged in behavior that brought harm to herself causing the miscarriage including taking drugs. My head will soon explode from the audacity to control a person's behavior to such an egregious extent. We clearly need a nationwide revolt.

 

[Gussie]

On other discussion boards where I lurk, there are too many people who support this if the woman has engaged in behavior that brought harm to herself causing the miscarriage including taking drugs. My head will soon explode from the audacity to control a person's behavior to such an egregious extent. We clearly need a nationwide revolt.

This is disgusting. Addiction is a disease and it's high time it's treated as such instead of criminalizing it.

 

[smitcompton]

Hi,

Nowadays I don't speculate as much on how our so-called leaders are going to make their decisions. I mainly wait and see. So I didn't see this SC decision coming as I did think they wouldn't dare. But, we do have a rapist on the court, we have a woman who has 5 children, and is a Catholic and Justice Alito is also a Catholic who has said he doesn't believe in abortion. The elements are there for the overturning of Roe. I just looked at stats and they show that the majority of people think that the states should take over jurisdiction of our bodies.

I agree with Lightbright. We have to stop calling this a health issue. This is a Gov't grab for our bodes. Nothing less.

This is a case for civil disobedience. This country has ceded control to , yes, I mean it, idiots and people who need to bully others.(women). And yes, of course they will go after all the social changes they don't like.

We can't let this stand, but I do not want Planned Parenthood to lead. We need something different.

Annette

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

I agree, banning abortion has never been a health issue. If it were, we would have Universal Healthcare, subsidized education and UBI guaranteed for every child until their majority and starting with prenatal care as a matter of course. The only thing we have is one of the highest infant/maternal fatality rates.
We have heard nothing about how the religiously conservative Gov't plans to support these children they would force into being.

Make no mistake, this is also about children. This is part and parcel of keeping lower classes in poverty by the denial of basic quality of life for children after they're born.
The space of a breath.
To remind their parents, mother especially, that they will never be equal.

Taking the right to choose. The premise of America.
This is actual persecution.

One of the most dangerous situations the founders could have envisioned was an almost entirely religious SC. We allowed one political and religiously intertwined perspective to gain power for a special interest in the one area where there should be none.
America is not a Christian nation. It was codified into our Constitution for a reason.
This is why.
It was meant to be a haven of autonomous choice for it's citizens to worship their deities or none at all.
The negative repercussions of this are vast and will extend to every facet of our collective lives. They won't stop here. This is only the beginning.

But one example:
Not only does this state want criminal prosecution of women and tried to charge murder for miscarriage, but they now want to deny education to some of their children. The ones they deem lesser.

Texas Governor Ready to Challenge Schooling of Migrant Children (Published 2022)

Gov. Greg Abbott may target a 1982 Supreme Court ruling that requires schools to educate undocumented children. Some conservatives see an opening for a fresh look at old precedents.

www.nytimes.com

*Remember Martin Niemoller.

 

[whitewave]

I am so livid that I am raging over this, because it’s not just about abortion but everything else too— IVF, IUD, etc not to mention interracial marriage, gay marriage etc.

I told my daughter to tell me when and we will go protest in DC.

 

[whitewave]

Like all of you, I know plenty of women who have had abortions, with reasons (not that they need one) from rape, young and dumb (16) to birth control (she had 5 abortions from 15-22 years old), to incest and also parents in a cult and forced her have sex with other members in the cult that resulted in pregnancy.

I hope Samuel Alito burns in hell, in the very least for using in his opinion quotes from a 17th century jurist who burned women for being witches, promoted beating your wife to save her soul and supported rape within a marriage.

WE ARE NOT A THEOCRACY.

 

[whitewave]

The night the leak came out about Abortion they put up small fences as a barrier around the Supreme Court Building. They replaced them with high nonscalable fences last night. WTH

Yes, all of a sudden, privacy and safety are important to them. Rage. All I feel is rage.

 

[whitewave]

I am actually still a registered Republican, and I tend to vote purple. I will NEVER vote for another Republican again. It turns out I am a one issue voter and women’s health is that one issue.

 

[Demon]

I am actually still a registered Republican, and I tend to vote purple. I will NEVER vote for another Republican again. It turns out I am a one issue voter and women’s health is that one issue.

Maybe consider changing your registration to independent, if not dem? Maybe they need to see people leaving the party?

 

[mommylawyer]

To be clear, RED STATES are taking away women's rights. If the leaked SCOTUS opinion goes through, it will take the country back to neutral. Women in blue states will still enjoy the same rights they had before. Women in RED STATES will lose those rights. Change needs to come from people in RED STATES on a LOCAL LEVEL.

If you live in a RED STATE, it would be more effective to make your voice heard loud and clear to your local representative than to march on D.C.

 

[whitewave]

Maybe consider changing your registration to independent, if not dem? Maybe they need to see people leaving the party?

I have to go downtown to do it— my actual license is missing some code I need to change it online. I will go as soon as I get home (I’m taking care of my mom right now).

 

[Demon]

I have to go downtown to do it— my actual license is missing some code I need to change it online. I will go as soon as I get home (I’m taking care of my mom right now).

I hope your mom's ok.

 

[whitewave]

My 23 year old daughter said they are all joining the church of satan since that is a recognized religion and their covenants state that access to abortion part of their religion.

I don’t know what any of this means, but gee, thanks GOP for having my daughter 1) know there is a church of satan and 2) they are all joining etc… All because the GOP thinks we are an evangelical Christian theocracy.

 

[whitewave]

I hope your mom's ok.

Thanks, she is doing great. She had 1 of 2 needed total knee replacements.

 

[whitewave]

I hope Alito chokes on a page of this idiot’s teachings:

Draft Overturning Roe v. Wade Quotes Infamous Witch Trial Judge With Long-Discredited Ideas on Rape

Justice Alito’s leaked opinion cites Sir Matthew Hale, a 17th-century jurist who conceived the notion that husbands can’t be prosecuted for raping their wives, who sentenced women to death as “witches,” and whose misogyny stood out even in his time.

www.propublica.org

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Justice Alito’s leaked opinion cites Sir Matthew Hale, a 17th-century jurist who conceived the notion that husbands can’t be prosecuted for raping their wives, who sentenced women to death as “witches,” and whose misogyny stood out even in his time.”​

 

[swingtime]

To be clear, RED STATES are taking away women's rights. If the leaked SCOTUS opinion goes through, it will take the country back to neutral. Women in blue states will still enjoy the same rights they had before. Women in RED STATES will lose those rights. Change needs to come from people in RED STATES on a LOCAL LEVEL.

If you live in a RED STATE, it would be more effective to make your voice heard loud and clear to your local representative than to march on D.C.

Yes, and even if you live in a blue state, you can donate to red state candidates who support women's reproductive rights. You can also volunteer for some red state candidates from blue states (phone banking).

 

[fel]

To be clear, RED STATES are taking away women's rights. If the leaked SCOTUS opinion goes through, it will take the country back to neutral. Women in blue states will still enjoy the same rights they had before. Women in RED STATES will lose those rights. Change needs to come from people in RED STATES on a LOCAL LEVEL.

The red states have found all kinds of ways to suppress voting and gerrymandering local elections. They literally do not care what the Dems think. I live in a purple state -- our Republican Senators stopped taking phone calls in about 2016. Back in the 2000's I would lobby for disability rights, and I could actually make an appointment with a Republican Senator in Washington and meet with them in person. That kind of thing doesn't happen anymore. We are not people to them. We are the enemy.

 

[whitewave]

Women are talking on Twitter about a one day women’s strike where all pro choice women stay home from work and cripple the nation for a day.

 

[Lookinagain]

I am actually still a registered Republican, and I tend to vote purple. I will NEVER vote for another Republican again. It turns out I am a one issue voter and women’s health is that one issue.

I've always been registered as independent and tried to vote based on a variety of issues, so long as civil liberties weren't threatened by the candidate. Now I'd vote for Gumby or Pokey before I voted for someone who I thought might "fudge" a bit on the abortion issue to appear more liberal than they really are. So I guess this has turned me into a one issue voter too. And perhaps vote for candidates who are more liberal than I am and push me farther to the left when I was usually pretty close to the middle on most other issues. I hope more Republican women, or women in the middle who voted based on a group of issues, do what you do and refuse to vote for the Republicans. I think that is the only hope that we have. The house and senate both need to be blue so that they can codify Roe v. Wade at the federal level.

 

[whitewave]

I don’t mean to limit it to “womens health”— it’s woman’s agency and autonomy.

 

[Lookinagain]

I don’t mean to limit it to “womens health”— it’s woman’s agency and autonomy.

It's actually everyone's eventually, but right now it's women's health. Tomorrow autonomy, be it financial or something else. I feel like I've gone back 50 years in time and that we have to start all over again to gain the rights we fought for in the 70's.

 

[GliderPoss]

This is from an Aussie satirical newspaper…
I find it mind blowing in this day & age that women’s rights over their own body is still being debated.

 

[whitewave]

It's actually everyone's eventually, but right now it's women's health. Tomorrow autonomy, be it financial or something else. I feel like I've gone back 50 years in time and that we have to start all over again to gain the rights we fought for in the 70's.

I was just telling my mom that from her mother’s generation (back alley abortions) to my daughter’s generation, we are right back to the 1940s and it’s complete BULL SH*T

 

[Calliecake]

Women are talking on Twitter about a one day women’s strike where all pro choice women stay home from work and cripple the nation for a day.

I read somewhere (can’t remember where) that said all women should participate in a one week strike where women don’t spend any money shopping and don’t go to work.

I can’t see one day crippling the nation. A week would probably get quite a lot of attention.

 

[whitewave]

This is from an Aussie satirical newspaper…
I find it mind blowing in this day & age that women’s rights over their own body is still being debated.

This is so very true

 

[whitewave]

I read somewhere (can’t remember where) that said all women should participate in a one week strike where women don’t spend any money shopping and don’t go to work.

I can’t see one day crippling the nation. A week would probably get quite a lot of attention.

I’m all for doing something

 

[mommylawyer]

It's actually everyone's eventually, but right now it's women's health. Tomorrow autonomy, be it financial or something else. I feel like I've gone back 50 years in time and that we have to start all over again to gain the rights we fought for in the 70's.

Exactly. What I don't understand is this--conservatives want women to give their babies up for adoption instead of having abortions. But who pays for the cost of labor and delivery? Is the state going to cover those costs? Will churches pay? How are uninsured women going to afford that kind of expense? It cost 30,000 to have a baby in the United States ten years ago. I paid 3,000 because I had insurance. How are uninsured women going to come up with 30,000 to give birth?

 

[whitewave]

Exactly. What I don't understand is this--conservatives want women to give their babies up for adoption instead of having abortions. But who pays for the cost of labor and delivery? Is the state going to cover those costs? Will churches pay? How are uninsured women going to afford that kind of expense? It cost 30,000 to have a baby in the United States ten years ago. I paid 3,000 because I had insurance. How are uninsured women going to come up with 30,000 to give birth?

We have the WORST maternal death rates among the industrial nations!!! How pathetic is that and no one cares to figure out how to fix that.

 

[mommylawyer]

We have the WORST maternal death rates among the industrial nations!!! How pathetic is that and no one cares to figure out how to fix that.

It's really sad. I am currently living in a third-world country and things are better here for women. Birth control pills are OTC, healthcare is affordable, and abortions are safe and available.