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Awesome double snake ring up for auction. Light on details, but I love those sapphires!
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Antique Gold Amethyst Double Snake Ring

ANTIQUE GOLD AMETHYST DOUBLE SNAKE RING, of part twist design, the both snake heads each set with an amethyst. Size P 1
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lala646 said:
Awesome double snake ring up for auction. Light on details, but I love those sapphires!
157309377_1_x.jpg

www.liveauctioneers.com

Antique Gold Amethyst Double Snake Ring

ANTIQUE GOLD AMETHYST DOUBLE SNAKE RING, of part twist design, the both snake heads each set with an amethyst. Size P 1
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Are they sapphires or amethysts? Cute snakes either way but I think amethysts explain the lower valuation.
 
I haven't had any luck with liveauctioneers.com, I don't know why. I can't do a lot of the live auctions and the prices are all over the map. The search feature is also terrible. Any tips? What am I doing wrong.
 
RRfromR said:
I haven't had any luck with liveauctioneers.com, I don't know why. I can't do a lot of the live auctions and the prices are all over the map. The search feature is also terrible. Any tips? What am I doing wrong.
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That is a wonderful question. I will share my experiences. I used to go with my Dad I the 1980s, and would sometimes attend and/or bid for him. He collected antiques.

I noticed a while back, so I can’t tell you which company, that the commission was less if I went to the auction company directly, rather than Liveauctioneers. Not all of them are under that banner, either. That’s one tip.

And if you really want something, you have to be able to bid in real time, but you might overpay. The first and last lots of an auction will generally go for less, because there will fewer people paying attention. And the lot that goes after the highlighted piece often will too, because everyone is still reacting.

There are ‘pickers’ who attend every auction (virtually or IRL) to buy bargains for resale.

Nevertheless, bargains can be found. An three day auction that has mostly furniture and decorative smalls will not have many eyes on the jewelry, which will go early on Sunday morning. Mistakes are made in the catalog. Check measurements against carats. Read the lab reports. And if you are interested, ask for a condition report, if there is not one to click on in the listing.

‘There are times the first bidder is the only bidder.

And if a lot doesn’t sell, you can contact the company and make an offer.

Hope this helps! Buying at auction does require a time commitment, but it’s also fun. The alternative is to place a bid and and upper limit, and come back and see if you got it. You will not let your emotions carry you past your budget. You won’t win all the time, but you will on occasion. It’s a numbers game for most bidders.
 
Great advice and insight from @Mrsz1ppy. Regarding the prices all over the place, it seems some auction houses really are auction houses and most things sell, while others have hidden reserves and I’ll see the same thing get bids but not sell and relisted over and over. Liveauctioneers allows you to follow auction houses so I tend to follow the ones that do “real” auctions vs relying on searches. And, if you go to the auction houses directly sometimes they have weekly auctions that aren’t listed on liveauctioneers.
 
I have no idea where one would wear this, but LOOK HOW GLORIOUS IT IS!
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Edwardian Demantoid Garnet Peacock Feather Brooch

DATE: Edwardian, c.1910 An utterly stunning antique peacock feather brooch in 15k three-tone gold. The brooch is yellow in colour, with rose and white gold feathers with tiny hand detailing, giving the feather a realistic and 'light as a feather' look. Set at the eye of the feather is a vivid...
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lovedogs said:
I have no idea where one would wear this, but LOOK HOW GLORIOUS IT IS!
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Edwardian Demantoid Garnet Peacock Feather Brooch

DATE: Edwardian, c.1910 An utterly stunning antique peacock feather brooch in 15k three-tone gold. The brooch is yellow in colour, with rose and white gold feathers with tiny hand detailing, giving the feather a realistic and 'light as a feather' look. Set at the eye of the feather is a vivid...
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truly exquisite
 
Happy to share the link if anyone wants to buy it, but didn't know where else to ask this question. Would you consider this "transitional cut"? It's labeled that way on eBay.

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lovedogs said:
Happy to share the link if anyone wants to buy it, but didn't know where else to ask this question. Would you consider this "transitional cut"? It's labeled that way on eBay.

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I’m not an expert, but I’d consider it an OEC. That’s mainly because of the culet (even though it’s tiny) and because of the flowery design. Also, I tend to see a square on the face of trannies and the table on this diamond doesn’t have that square.

Years ago my paternal grandmother gave my mother her diamond - which presumably my grandfather had given her. My parents dutifully had the diamond evaluated by a local jeweler. His assessment: transitional cut 2.15 carats, P-Q-R color range. The diamond had been re-set before it was given to my mother, and two more times before it was passed on to me.

A few years ago I was showing my then-boyfriend how to use a loupe, using my heirloom diamond to demonstrate, when suddenly it occurred to me that the diamond wasn’t a transitional at all, it was an OEC! A quick visit to a jeweler who deals with a lot of estate jewelry confirmed my suspicion. So - the original jeweler got it wrong. And I believed his assessment even though I’d been a Pricescoper and admired and read about OECs for several years - and I’d even bought a few!
 
lovedogs said:
Happy to share the link if anyone wants to buy it, but didn't know where else to ask this question. Would you consider this "transitional cut"? It's labeled that way on eBay.

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Looks OEC to me as well!
 
VRBeauty said:
I’m not an expert, but I’d consider it an OEC. That’s mainly because of the culet (even though it’s tiny) and because of the flowery design. Also, I tend to see a square on the face of trannies and the table on this diamond doesn’t have that square.

Years ago my paternal grandmother gave my mother her diamond - which presumably my grandfather had given her. My parents dutifully had the diamond evaluated by a local jeweler. His assessment: transitional cut 2.15 carats, P-Q-R color range. The diamond had been re-set before it was given to my mother, and two more times before it was passed on to me.

A few years ago I was showing my then-boyfriend how to use a loupe, using my heirloom diamond to demonstrate, when suddenly it occurred to me that the diamond wasn’t a transitional at all, it was an OEC! A quick visit to a jeweler who deals with a lot of estate jewelry confirmed my suspicion. So - the original jeweler got it wrong. And I believed his assessment even though I’d been a Pricescoper and admired and read about OECs for several years - and I’d even bought a few!
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Agreed, i think OEC also, but wanted to check w folks here
 
It’s so pretty @lovedogs! Love the setting.
 
lovedogs said:
Happy to share the link if anyone wants to buy it, but didn't know where else to ask this question. Would you consider this "transitional cut"? It's labeled that way on eBay.

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Yup, yup, yup. Oec, look at those petals!:love:
 
I shouldn't be even looking, but this seller sent me an offer for less than 2k. It's such a cool cut, what is it? It doesn't look like the regular rose cut to me. But I'm not an expert.

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14ct Not 18ct Gold Antique Rose Cut Diamond Dome Gypsy Ring Size O 1ct | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 14ct Not 18ct Gold Antique Rose Cut Diamond Dome Gypsy Ring Size O 1ct at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
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Here are some pics. Length is 5.5 inches from end to end. This appears to be a watch that was specially made for someone with tiny wrists. The movement is marked Omega watch brand. Which is a high end watch maker. This was purchased through a well known international auction house Heritage Auctions. It has appx 3.0 carats of over 100 diamonds. Weighs 29.3 grams.Watch pic.jpgquora watch 1.png
 
jhulsh said:
Here are some pics. Length is 5.5 inches from end to end. This appears to be a watch that was specially made for someone with tiny wrists. The movement is marked Omega watch brand. Which is a high end watch maker. This was purchased through a well known international auction house Heritage Auctions. It has appx 3.0 carats of over 100 diamonds. Weighs 29.3 grams.Watch pic.jpgquora watch 1.png
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@jhulsh , I tried an amazing art deco bracelet at an estate sale and I couldn't even get it close to meeting the sides on my wrist and I'm a very thin person. I wonder how tiny these ladies were, probably less than 5 ft tall too.
 
RRfromR said:
@jhulsh , I tried an amazing art deco bracelet at an estate sale and I couldn't even get it close to meeting the sides on my wrist and I'm a very thin person. I wonder how tiny these ladies were, probably less than 5 ft tall too.
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I am not a small person (although I'm just shy of 5'4) but my wrists are 6 inches; I just have really small wrist bones. But generally yes, people were smaller back then.
 
RRfromR said:
@jhulsh , I tried an amazing art deco bracelet at an estate sale and I couldn't even get it close to meeting the sides on my wrist and I'm a very thin person. I wonder how tiny these ladies were, probably less than 5 ft tall too.
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I know people have told me the old art deco watches were all made really small. I have heard that people had smaller wrists back then. I find that so odd.
 
jhulsh said:
I know people have told me the old art deco watches were all made really small. I have heard that people had smaller wrists back then. I find that so odd.
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I noticed the same. Victorian pieces were made large, from rings to bracelets. My ring size is 6, so larger than average, and most victorian rings that are in original state fit my index finger.
 
jhulsh said:
I know people have told me the old art deco watches were all made really small. I have heard that people had smaller wrists back then. I find that so odd.
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My wrist or 5.5 and I have a really hard time finding bracelets even antique ones! I notice the snake bracelets I like are often really big like 7-8”
 
lovedogs said:
Happy to share the link if anyone wants to buy it, but didn't know where else to ask this question. Would you consider this "transitional cut"? It's labeled that way on eBay.

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Definitely a transitional. Too small of a culet for an OEC and the facets are too sharp and arrow like. OECs usually have rounder petals. Also the table is probably around 54-55% here which makes it an circular brilliant/transitional by default
 
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