Spessartite sources? (Harrriet, Movie Zombie)

[scarlet16]

I originally posted in Harriet''s thread but not sure if she''ll see it...

To all you gorgeous spessertite owners, where did you source your stone from? A very good friend of mine and I were in Tiffany''s and she fell completely in love with a Legacy with an amazing spessartite in that highlighter orange color. Her husband is looking to get a ring like the Legacy (without the markup) made for her 30th birthday, so being the jewelry fan that I am, I''d LOVE to find something for them.
Thanks!!!

 

[simplysplendid]

Hi, try Dan Stair at customgemstones.com. He might not have what you want listed on the site currently but i know he has some spess rough, so I would suggest emailing him. Have fun, I love spessartities too and I saw the spess legacy ring at Tiffany''s too. But my personal opinion is that the spess legacy ring at Tiffany''s is not as gorgeous as some of the spess that we see here or those from Dan.

 

[movie zombie]

since you ask, my spess came from richard wise: www.rwwise.com

he is definitely very high end re price....but his stones are some of the very very best available. drop him an e-mail, or call him: he''s ver accessible and fun to talk to. i never met him or been to his shop: i hear its worth the trip from those that have been there! if you do contact richard, tell him movie zombie in california sends her best!

there used to be another spess poster here, Mine. i haven''t seen her here in quite some time. i believe her stone was a concave cut from richard homer: www.concavegems.com
his website isn''t always uptodate and i think its best to contact him directly to see what he has already cut and what rough he has to cut.

movie zombie

 

[smitcompton]

Hi,
I just saw 2 spessartites , one over 3 carats, one over 5 carats at lembeckgems. If they dont appear on his website e-mail him about them. i don''t think I can say where I saw them, but they appear to be true manderin color and are flawless. I think the price is fair. I''m not in the market myself but they are lovely.
Thanks
Suling.

 

[movie zombie]

the lembeckgem ebay store certainly has spess: they are certainly affordable but are not high crystal.....those go for a lot more $ per carat. all depends on what one is looking for, the use [e-ring?], and what one can afford...just like with diamonds. they may be of good value but they are not high quality spess. doesn''t mean they can''t and won''t be pleasing to the right buyer!

movie zombie

 

[chrono]

MZ,
Can you please clarify what you mean by they aren''t high crystal? They are a very pretty rich orange with no brown undertones. They are also very clean. The only "ding" for me is the checkerboard cut.

I was eyeing them myself but decided I would not be happy with the checkerboard cut in the long term.

 

[movie zombie]

Chrono,

here''s a good start: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-four-cs-of-connoisseurship.28593/

i, too, didn''t care much for the cut on those at lembeckgems but it had to do with the pavillon......again, the stone will be a good buy for the right buyer. but anyone wanting a fine spess will be paying a lot more for a 3 carat.

movie zombie

ps i don''t have the budget to buy all my color stones in the catagory, and unfortunately i''ve developed an eye for the finer stones.....sigh.

 

[simplysplendid]

Date: 4/8/2008 4:58:20 PM
Author: Chrono
MZ,
Can you please clarify what you mean by they aren''t high crystal? They are a very pretty rich orange with no brown undertones. They are also very clean. The only ''ding'' for me is the checkerboard cut.

I was eyeing them myself but decided I would not be happy with the checkerboard cut in the long term.

Could it be that there is a bit of silk in it? Not sure whether I''ve got the right term. Hopefully some experts can chime in..

 

[colormyworld]

Mz, You and I go back quite a ways but I must call you on this one. While I am not an Expert like RW. I submit that we are all pretty much in the same boat. Trying to judge such an elusive thing as "crystal" by a picture seems to be some what foolhardy IMO. Now take two pictures taken by two differnt photographers with possible differing lighting conditions and this complicates things further. Maybe I am way off base with this post but I don't even think RW would attempt such a feat and make a such judgement from these pictures. One other point while I am on my soapbox. Take two identical stones. One is offered by a well known vendor the other is offered by an e-bay dealer overseas. Which one do you think will cost more???? Think this is not possible. Think again.

No offense meant just trying to get others to open thier minds to other options.

 

[scarlet16]

Thanks all for the tips. I will send the sites off to her husband and have him try to find something lovely!

 

[Harriet]

Date: 4/8/2008 6:29:02 PM
Author: colormyworld
Mz, You and I go back quite a ways but I must call you on this one. While I am not an Expert like RW. I submit that we are all pretty much in the same boat. Trying to judge such an elusive thing as ''crystal'' by a picture seems to be some what foolhardy IMO. Now take two pictures taken by two differnt photographers with possible differing lighting conditions and this complicates things further. Maybe I am way off base with this post but I don''t even think RW would attempt such a feat and make a such judgement from these pictures. One other point while I am on my soapbox. Take two identical stones. One is offered by a well known vendor the other is offered by an e-bay dealer overseas. Which one do you think will cost more???? Think this is not possible. Think again.

No offense meant just trying to get others to open thier minds to other options.

I agree.

Scarlet, try: www.whitegems.com.

 

[movie zombie]

richard, i''m not sure why or what you feel the need to call me on.

yes, pictures do make it hard to judge or anything else about a stone.....much better to get the stone in hand and view it personally, and it just may have that attribute . make sure there is a good return policy. and there is nothing wrong with wanting a stone that doesn''t have that attribute. for those interested, the posts by Vincent were very interesting regarding what he looks for and likes in stones: he actually prefers stones with inclusions.......and isn''t put off by native cuts. but then he''s not setting everything he buys either. you might be able to search here and find some of his old posts.

just be aware that there are differences and as long as you''re not paying high end prices for stones that aren''t high end, and you''re happy with the stone, why not?! beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. as with diamonds, there is a market for every budget. i still don''t like the cut of the stone i looked at on the ebay store site and on that basis alone wouldn''t consider it. but someone else will love it and give it a good home. and trust me: i won''t be paying high end prices for high end stones for spess studs......

my view point of this thread was that pricescoper''s friend as a novice color stone buyer was looking for info on how to find a stone of at least as good a quality as was seen at tiffany''s. i was specifically asked where i sourced my stone. additionally, Chrono, asked just what the heck "crystal" is. in both instances i answered the questions.

i''m not knocking or promoting any vendor. one often pays a higher price for a stone from a well known vendor: you''re also paying for their eye and the vendor will mark up for that. MJO in times past has purchased both from ebay and overseas and gotten some really nice stones. but he''s taken the time to become educated regarding a vast number of color stones and knows what to look for.

final comment: be an educated consumer.

movie zombie

 

[scarlet16]

Date: 4/8/2008 9:01:38 PM
Author: Harriet

Date: 4/8/2008 6:29:02 PM

Author: colormyworld

Mz, You and I go back quite a ways but I must call you on this one. While I am not an Expert like RW. I submit that we are all pretty much in the same boat. Trying to judge such an elusive thing as ''crystal'' by a picture seems to be some what foolhardy IMO. Now take two pictures taken by two differnt photographers with possible differing lighting conditions and this complicates things further. Maybe I am way off base with this post but I don''t even think RW would attempt such a feat and make a such judgement from these pictures. One other point while I am on my soapbox. Take two identical stones. One is offered by a well known vendor the other is offered by an e-bay dealer overseas. Which one do you think will cost more???? Think this is not possible. Think again.


No offense meant just trying to get others to open thier minds to other options.

I agree.


Scarlet, try: www.whitegems.com.

Thanks Harriet...your stone is FANTASTIC by the way!