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The Goldilocks of diamonds. Happy with replacement MRB!

LolaRVA

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Dear Pricescope, You Told Me So! Here’s my tale of woe and why you were right. I hope other novices will learn from my experience:

In my replacement ring quest after my original broke, I focused on finding a GIA XXX MRB @ 2.4ct through local B&M, ended up with the following stone:
G
SI2
2.39 ct
D 62.6
T 57
CA 36
PA 40.8
HCA 3.7
Primary inclusions: clouds and crystal (one was black, tiny and at corner of a facet toward edge of stone). I viewed stone on several occasions in store and outside, both cloudy and sunny days. It looked sparkly and eye clean to me with that one tiny dot exception, even that I couldn’t initially find every time so I didn’t rule it out.
Not AWFUL, but not great. PS advice when I presented the specs was to pass and find something better. I wasn’t patient enough to do so, however (plus it was very challenging to get jeweler to produce a stone with PS specs, he only showed me one that was smaller and overpriced, very frustrating). I didn’t see any better options so I purchased the G and moved on... Received ring, liked for a few days, then started noting the extent of the inclusions and that the diamond always seemed a little dirty. I realized:
1. I’d compromised on cut, even if just slightly, and since I knew I wasn’t getting a top performer I was being extra critical of the stone.
2. This particular SI2 was not eye-clean, at least not to me. It may have simply been the type/placement of inclusions, but I couldn’t help wondering if a better cut would’ve mitigated their impact somewhat.
So I exchanged for the following:
H
SI2
2.43 ct
D 62
T 56
CA 35.5
PA 40.6
HCA 1.3
Primary inclusions: twinning wisps (none through table)
I took PS advice, particularly in re: needing to check that 35.5/40.6 works. Viewed stone through Ideal scope, it looked phenomenal!
I now have the H on my hand, and I do think it’s a marked improvement (if not just psychologically). I suppose the only real way to compare would be both stones in exact same setting and worn simultaneously on same finger (wouldn’t that be fun!), but I think if this was done I’d find that the H far out-performs the G.

It’s overcast and a little rainy here today, I took the dog out and was mesmerized by the prism effect this H stone was giving. It was dancing and performing as if under always -flattering grocery store lighting! As far as inclusions go, I’ve given myself several headaches trying to find them. I can see the smallest white feather suspended in pavillion at one particular angle, when 5-6 inches from face. Otherwise, beautifully eye clean even at a few inches away. I louped when examining for purchase and once set. I could get an independent appraisal to assess the impact of the twinning wisps, but I can’t reasonably fathom how they’re affecting brilliance. This stone is so clear and bright, I have examined it to death in every lighting situation I can find/create.

I’m sure most casual observers won’t notice any difference between the two diamonds (I told just one friend about the switch, she rolled her eyes at me), but I think the better cut makes all the difference. My only uncertainty is about going down a color grade, hopefully it’s not something I end up regretting, I can’t honestly tell if I see more tint or if I’m creating a problem because I know it’s an H, and think it’s more in my head than any truly dramatic color difference. The retail price on the H was @ $2k more than the G, which I must attribute to the better cut (and .04 ct difference).

All in all, I appreciate everything I’ve learned from PS and am glad I finally applied it to a diamond selection with which I’m pleased!
 
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Trying to fit in and attempt ring-on-flower shot. DH just bought a new Leica, I’ll have to learn how to use it so I can get better ring pics!

Photo with circled area is original G, see all the busy inclusions? Horrible! Next I tried to recreate the pic with the H for comparison, so difficult to make exactly the same but it’s so much more bright and clean.
 
Congratulations!!! I am thrilled for you. I helped a friend and she also cut over color, an AGS 000 H over a G GIA 3X. We had absolutely no problems with the color of the H. We examined the stone under various lighting and we could see the difference. There was this clarity with the H, especially under sunlight. After examining all the numbers, it’s the eyes that will
Make the decision for you. Congratulations!!
 
the G was really very included. The H is MUCH better. Congrats! So happy you love your ring!
 
Congratulations!!! I am thrilled for you. I helped a friend and she also cut over color, an AGS 000 H over a G GIA 3X. We had absolutely no problems with the color of the H. We examined the stone under various lighting and we could see the difference. There was this clarity with the H, especially under sunlight. After examining all the numbers, it’s the eyes that will
Make the decision for you. Congratulations!!

Thanks, and congrats to your friend! But did you mean to say that you “could not” see the difference? Or could you see but it simply did not bother you?
 
Thanks, and congrats to your friend! But did you mean to say that you “could not” see the difference? Or could you see but it simply did not bother you?
I meant that we could see that the H was better cut and the color difference between the G and H was not noticeable. I don’t know if it was because of the cut that we didn’t notice the color difference. Who knows how the brain works. In the end she went with the stone that just looked more beautiful.
 
I meant that we could see that the H was better cut and the color difference between the G and H was not noticeable. I don’t know if it was because of the cut that we didn’t notice the color difference. Who knows how the brain works. In the end she went with the stone that just looked more beautiful.

Ah, got it! Same here, I had jeweler mix up the H and a different loose G (with similar dimensions as the first). I kept picking the H because it just plain looked better.
I think H is lowest I could go for a ring, as I do like admiring the side profile. But maybe “I” for a pendant... next project...
 
the G was really very included. The H is MUCH better. Congrats! So happy you love your ring!

Thank you! I was absolutely determined to find a good SI2, perhaps just to prove that I could (and because it’s for wearing, not investment, and I always want the best deal). Had he known of my madness, I’m sure my husband would’ve told me to spend more for higher clarity and call it a day. (I previously had an EC that was VS, as it needed to be, so I underestimated the work that goes into properly evaluating lower clarity stones).
I think part of the initial challenge was that I wasn’t looking at any necessarily “hideous” diamonds (by layperson standards, at least). Easy to ignore red flags when admiring something sparkly, but once the honeymoon phase wears off and reality sets in, suddenly not so impressive. So I think I was far more careful when picking this H, scrutinized all the info much more thoroughly in hopes of avoiding later regret.
Selecting a diamond is like choosing a spouse. You have to be strategic, and usually have to try out and reject a few duds before you land on a good one!
 
Beautiful stone! Good for you for pursuing a well cut one!
 
Your new diamond is just beautiful. Ignore your rolly-eyed friend. My sister in law is the same with me. She just doesn't 'get' jewellery. But she does always comment on how sparkly my diamonds are compared to hers :Up_to_something2:

Enjoy your lovely new ring & its' super sparkles!
 
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