The new Twitter, under Musk

[monarch64]

Mate, I just woke up and enjoying my cuppa. Really, it's funny you think I'd give up my sleep for you, lol.
Maybe it's Musk himself liking my posts.

Bro, it’s almost like you cling to this thread like you cling to your wild theories yet still can’t sleep at night. I don’t need caffeine because I don’t have sleep issues caused by spending all day defending my shit takes on the internet. Have an excellent day.

 

[kenny]

How many sock accounts do you have now? Just those two that liked your post? LOLOLOLOL

Hmmmm.
It's not Musk.



One 'LIKER' has been here 5 months, the other 19 months, but something's very strange - neither has ever posted one single thing.
Yet both suddenly turn up to LIKE the same post.
Hmmmm.

It's not much of an 'enigma' for them both to be created for one purpose, but had to wait until needed.
What a convenient treasure trove.

It's kinda sad someone loosing an argument would stoop so low as to resort to fake LIKES.

 

[monarch64]

Hmmmm.
It's not Musk.



One 'liker' has been here 5 months, the other 19 months, but neither has ever posted a single thing.
Yet both suddenly turn up to like the same post.

It's like they both were created for one purpose, but had to wait until needed.

It's kinda sad someone loosing an argument would stoop so low, to fake likes.
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D’oh!

 

[monarch64]

@Gloria27 I think they got your number.

 

[Gloria27]

Hmmmm.
It's not Musk.



One 'LIKER' has been here 5 months, the other 19 months, but how very strange ..... neither has ever posted a single thing.
Yet both suddenly turn up to LIKE the same post.
Hmmmm.

It's not much of an 'enigma' for them both to be created for one purpose, but had to wait until needed.
What a convenient treasure trove.

It's kinda sad someone loosing an argument would stoop so low as to resort to fake LIKES.

Conspiracy much?

Mate, you overestimate the amount of ^$%ks I give about who likes my comments or not. I wouldn't waste sleep over some likes.

I certainly knew the amount of bollocking I'd have to put up with to be able to say what I have to say, do you think I care about likes?

 

[kenny]

... do you think I care about likes?

Yes, 2 of them.

 

[Gloria27]

Yes, 2 of them.

Stop projecting, mate, it's in your head.

 

[monarch64]

Stop projecting, mate, it's in your head.

So you’re also a gaslighter! This just gets better and better watching you implode. Yes, I said you’ll implode: either you’ll flounce or you’ll get banned when you try to go out with a grand exit. Y’all are SO predictable. Also… you should try smiling more.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, the responses!
Come on now.
I don't care who you are, that shit's funny



* Now, Musk wants your leave to plant his brand microchips into your brain at a future date, with Neuralink.
Sure, mm-hmm, that should go well. Like Tesla autopilot.

 

[Mayk]

Well I’m sure Jack is wishing more emails were purged. Wow!

Twitter was an echo chamber

 

[kenny]

Wow ... what Musk is doing reminds me of a certain other lovely man.

Musk Shakes Up Twitter’s Legal Team as He Looks to Cut More Costs

Twitter has stopped paying rent on offices and is considering not paying severance packages to former employees, among other measures.

www.nytimes.com

By Ryan Mac, Mike Isaac and Kate Conger
Dec. 13, 2022Updated 6:04 p.m. ET

SAN FRANCISCO — Over the past two weeks, Elon Musk has shaken up Twitter’s legal department, disbanded a council that advised the social media company on safety issues and is continuing to take drastic steps to cut costs.

Mr. Musk appears to be gearing up for legal battles at Twitter, which he purchased in October for $44 billion, according to seven people familiar with internal conversations. He and his team have revamped Twitter’s legal department and pushed out one of his closest advisers in the process. They have also instructed employees to not pay vendors in anticipation of potential litigation, the people said.

To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. Twitter has also refused to pay a $197,725 bill for private charter flights made the week of Mr. Musk’s takeover, according to a copy of a lawsuit filed in New Hampshire District Court and obtained by The New York Times.

Twitter’s leaders have also discussed the consequences of denying severance payments to thousands of people who have been laid off since the takeover, two people familiar with the talks said. And Mr. Musk has threatened employees with lawsuits if they talk to the media and “act in a manner contrary to the company’s interest,” according to an internal email sent last Friday.

The aggressive moves signal that Mr. Musk is still slashing expenditures and is bending or breaking Twitter’s previous agreements to make his mark. His reign has been characterized by chaos, a series of resignations and layoffs, reversals of the platform’s previous suspensions and rules, and capricious decisions that have driven away advertisers.

Mr. Musk did not respond to a request for comment.

As he has transitioned into the role of Twitter’s new leader, Mr. Musk has had a cast of rotating legal professionals by his side. In October, he fired both Twitter’s chief legal officer and general counsel “for cause” within hours of closing his acquisition and installed his personal lawyer, Alex Spiro, to head up legal and policy matters at the company.

Mr. Spiro is no longer working at Twitter, according to six people familiar with the decision. Those people said that Mr. Musk has been unhappy with some of the decisions made by Mr. Spiro, a noted criminal defense lawyer who successfully defended the billionaire in a high-profile defamation case in late 2019 and worked his way into the Twitter owner’s inner circle.

Among those decisions was Mr. Spiro’s call to retain the Twitter deputy general counsel, James A. Baker, through Mr. Musk’s various rounds of layoffs and firings. Mr. Baker had served as general counsel at the F.B.I. until May 2018 — advising the agency on politically fraught investigations into Hillary Clinton’s private email server and Donald J. Trump’s campaign — and joined Twitter in 2020.

Last week, Mr. Musk said he terminated Mr. Baker after he learned that the lawyer had been responsible for reviewing internal communications about the company’s decision to suppress a 2020 New York Post story about Hunter Biden’s laptop. Mr. Musk had ordered that those communications, which he has called the “Twitter Files,” be given to a group of journalists to release and discredit the decision-making of the company’s past executives.

With Twitter drained of legal talent from layoffs and departures, Mr. Musk has sought lawyers from his other companies, including rocket maker SpaceX, to fill the void. More than half a dozen lawyers from the space exploration company have been given access to Twitter’s internal systems, according to two people and documents seen by The Times. SpaceX employees who have been brought in to Twitter include Chris Cardaci, the company’s vice president of legal, and Tim Hughes, its senior vice president, global business and government affairs.

A SpaceX spokesman did not return a request for comment.

Among its legal challenges, Twitter is facing more questions from the Federal Trade Commission, which is investigating whether the company is still adhering to a consent decree. In 2011, the company signed a consent decree with the F.T.C. after two data breaches and said it would not mislead users about privacy protection. In May, the company paid $150 million to the F.T.C. and Justice Department to settle allegations that it had violated the terms of that consent decree, which was expanded.

The F.T.C. has sent Twitter letters asking whether it still has the resources and staff to adhere to the consent decree, two people with knowledge of the matter said. An F.T.C. spokeswoman declined to comment.

On Friday, as Mr. Musk encouraged the release of internal information through the continuation of his Twitter Files, he also sent an email to employees noting “many detailed leaks of confidential Twitter information” showed that some were violating their nondisclosure agreements.

“If you clearly and deliberately violate the NDA that you signed when joining Twitter, you accept liability to the full extent of the law and Twitter will immediately seek damages,” he wrote. The email was first reported by the Platformer newsletter.

Mr. Musk’s team has also deliberated the merits of not paying severance to the thousands of people who have left the company since he took over, when there were about 7,500 full-time employees. While Mr. Musk and his advisers had previously considered forgoing any severance when discussing cuts in late October, the company ultimately decided that U.S.-based employees would be given at least two months of pay and one month of severance pay so that the company would be compliant with federal and state labor laws.

Mr. Musk’s team is now reconsidering whether it should pay some of those months, according to two people familiar with the discussions, or just face lawsuits from disgruntled former employees. Many former employees still have not received any paperwork formalizing their separation from Twitter, five people said. Mr. Musk has already refused to pay millions of dollars in exit packages to executives he claims were terminated “for cause.”

As Twitter has downsized, Mr. Musk’s team has been hoping to renegotiate the terms of lease agreements, two people familiar with the discussion said. The company has received complaints from real estate investment and management firms including Shorenstein, which owns the San Francisco buildings that Twitter occupies.

A spokesman for Shorenstein declined to comment.

In other money-saving moves, Twitter has laid off its kitchen staff and begun to list office supplies, industrial-grade kitchen equipment and electronics from its San Francisco office for auction.

Mr. Musk also continues to cut staff and leaders, including Nelson Abramson, Twitter’s global head of infrastructure, and Alan Rosa, the global information technology head and vice president of information security, according to four people familiar with the moves.

On Sunday night, Mr. Musk sent two emails to Twitter’s staff with advice about how to work for him that he had previously shared with SpaceX and Tesla employees. One message focused on first principles thinking, a worldview based on the teachings of Aristotle to reduce assumptions to basic axioms, which Mr. Musk credited with helping him make difficult decisions. The other advocated against workplace hierarchies.

On Monday, Twitter notified members of its trust and safety council, an advisory group formed in 2016, that it would dissolve immediately. The council was created to guide Twitter through challenging safety problems and content moderation issues, and was made up of organizations focused on civil rights and child safety.

“Safety online can mean survival offline,” said Jodie Ginsberg, the president of the Committee to Protect Journalists, one of the organizations involved in the council. “As a platform that has become a critical tool in both open and repressive countries, Twitter must play a constructive role in ensuring that journalists and the public at large are able to receive and impart information without fear of reprisals.”

Michael S. Schmidt contributed reporting. Kitty Bennett contributed research.

 

[Matata]

“If you clearly and deliberately violate the NDA that you signed when joining Twitter, you accept liability to the full extent of the law and Twitter will immediately seek damages,” he wrote. The email was first reported by the Platformer newsletter.

This made me laugh. Mr. Transparent who is getting his jollies exposing the secret allegedly nefarious actions of its former employees is threatening his current employees for any attempt to be transparent. Comedy gold.

 

[monarch64]

Ellen Muskrat is just a kid clowning around in a baby pool pretending he knows what he’s doing. His incel followers in my opinion are the only ones supporting him at this point.

He’s nothing more than an incel role model like Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, etc. Just yuck.

 

[Gloria27]

Oh boy, oh boy, things are really sinking in and trickleing out !

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Trust fund baby gone wild:
Musk got booed bad at Dave Chappelle show, he was shocked that everyone thinks he's an a-hole. Dave had to end the show, but not before he insulted the 'poors'- who will never buy tickets to see him again. Musk then tried to save face by lying. Collective Twitter brought video receipts.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, he lost another few billion and is no longer the richest man in the world. He fired the cleaning crew for the Twitter offices right before Christmas, hasn't been paying his rent for for several? months and now may not pay the legally agreed upon severance packages to the people he laid off. He's lost @85% of the workforce and truly isn't smart enough to figure out why. He's going to be sued for much more than he would have paid if he just wasn't a douchecanoe.
He's also apparently just figuring out who actually buys Teslas- it's mostly those Liberals and Independents that you block on the Twitter for calling you out, Melon. The brand is dealing with major negative connotations from all sides and the release of several other brand's EVs which will kill his market share further. 10% in just the first two days of this week.

Brilliant

 

[Demon]

Twitter banning, or at least suspending, journalists now

https://twitter.com/x/status/1603551884748460034

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Twitter banning, or at least suspending, journalists now

https://twitter.com/x/status/1603551884748460034

Tesla stock has fallen 28% since Elon Musk took over Twitter

Yahoo Finance Live anchors discuss the decline in stock for Twitter following Elon Musk’s focus on Twitter.

finance.yahoo.com

Laaame, I though he was all about freedom of speech

 

[Demon]

Tesla stock has fallen 28% since Elon Musk took over Twitter

Yahoo Finance Live anchors discuss the decline in stock for Twitter following Elon Musk’s focus on Twitter.

finance.yahoo.com

Laaame, I though he was all about freedom of speech

I guess you still have the freedom not to criticize Musk.

 

[LilAlex]

I know nothing about Tesla's corporate governance but it almost seems like he is trying to get ousted by the Board. Is that a thing for Tesla? I know it is at a lot of other publicly-traded behemoths. Would you really squander $500 billion (!) in Tesla valuation for the sole sake of "owning the libs" on Twitter? How small a person must you be?

You almost couldn't script a kookier, more self-inflicted, and more paranoid downfall. Who unravels this fast? I guess if you show your true self -- but he never seemed super-adept at hiding it before. Maybe it's true what they say about absolute power.

 

[smitcompton]

Hi,
Musk seems to be an impulsive man, rather chaotic. Twitter has always lost money, and he has no plan to turn that around. To me. he's thrashing about, lost in his sketchy vision of a town-square. Platforms like twitter need to have the same rules that the broadcast channels have. It is a private company, and he can do and allow any speech he wishes at this point in time.
I think one of those journalists that he banned was tracking his plane, and he felt he and his family would be targeted for assassination. Maybe, he will translate that similar danger of hate speech to others.
He made a mistake in buying the company. I hope it is not fatal for him. I don't care if twitter succeeds.

Annette

Annette

 

[Demon]

Hi,
Musk seems to be an impulsive man, rather chaotic. Twitter has always lost money, and he has no plan to turn that around. To me. he's thrashing about, lost in his sketchy vision of a town-square. Platforms like twitter need to have the same rules that the broadcast channels have. It is a private company, and he can do and allow any speech he wishes at this point in time.
I think one of those journalists that he banned was tracking his plane, and he felt he and his family would be targeted for assassination. Maybe, he will translate that similar danger of hate speech to others.
He made a mistake in buying the company. I hope it is not fatal for him. I don't care if twitter succeeds.

Annette

Annette

His excuse about tracking his plane doesn't fly (no pun intended). This is also on Twitter, and I think the President is a bigger target than Elon. don't say who is on l look at this:

https://twitter.com/PotusSchedule

Also, anyone can track planes, but it doesn't tell you who is on a plane:

FlightAware - Flight Tracker / Flight Status

Best Flight Tracker: Live Tracking Maps, Flight Status, and Airport Delays for airline flights, private/GA flights, and airports.

flightaware.com

 

[kenny]

... Would you really squander $500 billion (!) in Tesla valuation for the sole sake of "owning the libs" on Twitter? How small a person must you be?

Maybe it's not about the smallness of the whole man.

 

[Demon]

His excuse about tracking his plane doesn't fly (no pun intended). This is also on Twitter, and I think the President is a bigger target than Elon. don't say who is on l look at this:

https://twitter.com/PotusSchedule

Also, anyone can track planes, but it doesn't tell you who is on a plane:

FlightAware - Flight Tracker / Flight Status

Best Flight Tracker: Live Tracking Maps, Flight Status, and Airport Delays for airline flights, private/GA flights, and airports.

flightaware.com

Well that was a mess. Disregard the "don't say who is on" in the first paragraph. Geez.

 

[Gloria27]

You guys are missing some details.

The details:

It's about doxxing, revealing real-time location of a person, which can be dangerous for the obvious reasons.
Apparently someone stalked his car thinking it was him but it was his son inside, and they blocked the car and climber onto the hood which is freaking crazy if you think about it.

What would you do if someone did crazy S$%^ like that to your family?

I think suspending some account for a week is pretty light considering what happened.

 

[Demon]

You guys are missing some details.

The details:

It's about doxxing, revealing real-time location of a person, which can be dangerous for the obvious reasons.
Apparently someone stalked his car thinking it was him but it was his son inside, and they blocked the car and climber onto the hood which is freaking crazy if you think about it.

What would you do if someone did crazy S$%^ like that to your family?

I think suspending some account for a week is pretty light considering what happened.

Is there a police report for the stalking?

 

[Lookinagain]

You guys are missing some details.

The details:

It's about doxxing, revealing real-time location of a person, which can be dangerous for the obvious reasons.
Apparently someone stalked his car thinking it was him but it was his son inside, and they blocked the car and climber onto the hood which is freaking crazy if you think about it.

What would you do if someone did crazy S$%^ like that to your family?

I think suspending some account for a week is pretty light considering what happened.

Well, what I heard was that someone posted where his plane was, and as said above, the location of a plane is public knowledge, just not who is on it. I haven't heard that any journalist named the passengers.

And I haven't heard that this alleged stalker of his child was a journalist. And since he posted that persons license plate number to his 120+ million followers, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out who it was. So what is the rationale for suspending the accounts of what is it? 6 journalists so far? They can't all have the same license plate number.

 

[LilAlex]

I guess this is why being the only passenger on the same plane all the time is not such a great idea for anonymity. This is just like the billion-dollar mega yachts -- folks seem to know when you are in town. At least there are two Air Force Ones. And to be clear: that is not doxxing. Posting a picture of someone at the Oscars is not doxxing -- they do not actually live at the Oscars (except for maybe Tom Hanks). Taking a photo of a celeb in Times Square and posting in real time is not doxxing; it is not an invitation for assassins to descend on Times Square. Posting concert video or, get this -- a concert tour schedule -- is not doxxing.

Like if you buy the sole surviving Goodyear blimp and float all over North America and say "Don't you dare take a picture of it because I need my privacy," well you'll kind of get what you deserve. (Like: People may question your motivation for traveling by Goodyear blimp if privacy and anonymity are paramount to you.) Like if you stand under the Eiffel tower all day long and scream at people to keep you out of their pictures. If you crave -- CRAVE -- attention 24/7 and will do literally anything for it including embracing antisemitism, right-wing extremism, and anti-science and anti-public-health behavior, it's hard for the rest of us to have sympathy when you recognize that you may have lost some privacy in the process.

He finally has the slightest glimmer of what his "free speech absolutism" means and he can't stand it for one minute! Wholesale policy changes at Twitter immediately. You can threaten poor Fauci's life all day long or storm the Capitol but if a scary man comes near your taxi (ooh), it must mean the actual death of free speech and journalism. For other people.

 

[Gloria27]

I guess this is why being the only passenger on the same plane all the time is not such a great idea for anonymity. This is just like the billion-dollar mega yachts -- folks seem to know when you are in town. At least there are two Air Force Ones. And to be clear: that is not doxxing. Posting a picture of someone at the Oscars is not doxxing -- they do not actually live at the Oscars (except for maybe Tom Hanks). Taking a photo of a celeb in Times Square and posting in real time is not doxxing; it is not an invitation for assassins to descend on Times Square. Posting concert video or, get this -- a concert tour schedule -- is not doxxing.

Like if you buy the sole surviving Goodyear blimp and float all over North America and say "Don't you dare take a picture of it because I need my privacy," well you'll kind of get what you deserve. (Like: People may question your motivation for traveling by Goodyear blimp if privacy and anonymity are paramount to you.) Like if you stand under the Eiffel tower all day long and scream at people to keep you out of their pictures. If you crave -- CRAVE -- attention 24/7 and will do literally anything for it including embracing antisemitism, right-wing extremism, and anti-science and anti-public-health behavior, it's hard for the rest of us to have sympathy when you recognize that you may have lost some privacy in the process.

He finally has the slightest glimmer of what his "free speech absolutism" means and he can't stand it for one minute! Wholesale policy changes at Twitter immediately. You can threaten poor Fauci's life all day long or storm the Capitol but if a scary man comes near your taxi (ooh), it must mean the actual death of free speech and journalism. For other people.

I don't see where he embraced all that you said, he actually kicked out Ye for crap like that.

Scary man who mounts the hood of your car? Would you let that fly if that happened to you? I don't think so. What journalist blocks your car and mounts the hood, for what purpose?

If you really wanted to say he is not fair and not abiding his own free speech policy you could have said he shouldn't have delete articles about the competitor platform and all of that. That's a bit dodgy/unfair but not saying Fauci should be prosecuted by the autorities (who knows what info he has on him), that's as threatening as saying let's impeach the president. Oh, I'm threatening you with the autorities, your life is in danger...wow.

I'm curious where this is going and if he's gonna be fair or start doing what the other side did for so many years, that would be a sad outcome.

 

[seaurchin]

I'm curious where this is going and if he's gonna be fair or start doing what the other side did for so many years, that would be a sad outcome.

What "other side" is that, Gloria27?

 

[Ella]

Folks, a reminder no political discussions here or demonizing one side or the other of a political spectrum.