The Official TTC Thread!

[lovelylulu]

peony, I did read your post and thanks for the support!

steph - thanks too!! and I use the target vitamin as well...

i''m pretty sure that i''ll be back to my normal self tomorrow. just need a little time to process this newest delay - made ever so tough by the inconvenient hormonal sensitivity at this moment

 

[sunkist]

Lulu, so sorry! Bummer.

Hi Steph, I also just take Target brand vitamins.

Ok, I think I'm officially having wonky cycles too. First off I was totally disapointed that my crosshairss were taken away last month. My chart was looking so nice and I thought I was on track right off the bat. Then I started getting the ups and downs in my temps, AF came, and I've been having weird temps since. I know it's hard to have any answers or ask for any help until I've been doing this for a while, but this is making me so confused about my body! On the one hand I'm very glad to have all the information (whether I'm O'ing or not, how long my LP is) and on the other hand if makes ya kind of frustrated

I know you all know this from your own experience probably, I just want vent a little

Oh, and in my cycle last month if I had kept my crosshairs then my LP would have only been 11 days. Isn't that too short? So maybe it's a good thing that FF thinks I really didn't ovulate cause now I don't have to worry about a short LP!

Here are the charts so far. I'll stack them to compare (and so I only have to post one

).

 

[peonygirl]

Sunkist, don''t fret yet! It''s hard to say for certain, but I do think that you ovulated your first cycle. You just had a big "implantation dip" and a slow rise, so that might be throwing off FF. Don''t forget that on the cycle that I got pregnant FF took away my crosshairs too, yet I''m pretty dang sure I ovulated.

Also, I''m not 100% sure, but I think a luteal phase deficit is anything under 10 days. 11 days should be fine. One of my friends was telling another friend 5 mins after I''d told her that I was having a lot of trouble getting pregnant that she was probably super fertile because she gets her period every two weeks. This person isn''t even close to trying to get pregnant and of course I''d never wish infertility on someone else, but. . .luteal phase deficit anyone? I couldn''t believe she said something so insensitive right after I''d spilled my guts to her. Ugh.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Lulu,

What a stinkin bummer!! I''m sorry. I totally hear you on the longer LP thing... I was *so* excited when I got to 16DPO. Then the idiot period came. Brat!! I''m a consistent 14DPO-er, too. I think maybe in my case, FF missed the right O day, though. I had a significant rise on the day that could have been my O, as well. At this point, I''m just glad that I did O, though.

I''m wishing lots of good news at the Dr. visit. Let us know how it goes. Is this with an RE?

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 1/3/2009 12:59:57 PM
Author: lovelylulu
Hello ladies,


AFF finally came a knocking today

Despite the fact that I have consistently had 14-day luteal phases for all the cycles I''ve kept track of, this time around it was 16 days. and obviously I got my hopes up. I mean it''s enough to expect the disappointment that comes when AFF shows up month after month, but it''s pretty cruel to be kept in the suspense of ''could it be, could it finally be'' only to be met with some fierce cramps and followed by my own half-hearted reassurances that maybe next month will be the month. I suppose it''s good that I''ve got a Dr. visit scheduled for this Thursday. I''m feeling a bit spent by this process right now.

Lovely - I went through the EXACT same thing you did this month - in fact, I can''t believe the similarities! We had perfect timing, my monitor matched up perfectly with my temps (always does) and not only that, but my period was two days late. My LP is normally 11-12 days (used to be 9 back in April and May before we officially started TTC), but this month it was 14. I really thought I''d be starting my new year with a BFP, only to be met head on by AFF! So frustrating! DH goes for a SA tomorrow so, we are moving forward in the process. Good luck with the doctor this week - let us know what he/she says! On ward and upward!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Steph,

Andrew is one of my most beloved boy names! What is his middle name? My favorite name for our son would be Seth Andrew. Sadly, Paul doesn''t like that name, but we do like Ryan Seth Andrew. Two middle names is fine with me, although I secretly hope that when he''s like 4, he''ll say he likes Seth or Andrew better than Ryan.

And I''m not sure if this is too personal (and if it is, then I understand and won''t expect a reply), but I was wondering how old Andrew is and how he''s reacted to the news about the baby. My sister in law had a miscarriage at 16 weeks and at the time she had two children, and the older (who was 3) took it really, really hard. The younger, age 1, didn''t really *get* it and didn''t show any signs of being upset. My sister in law read a book to Morgan (the older) and she thought that book really helped Morgan. The cool thing is that now all the kids know about Jesse (they named him when he passed) and talk about him freely and Morgan reads the book to the younger kids, who weren''t even born yet when it happened. It''s so neat to me to see how kids react to and process information. For Morgan, just knowing that Jesse was okay and in heaven was enough. Then years later, she had many more questions. The book was either Holly or Molly''s Rosebush. I can''t remember the name of the child, though. It''s a sweet story.

Again, if this is a topic you''d rather not get into, I totally understand. I doubt I''d be sharing information if this was my own situation. I apologize in advance if this the case for you, as well.

I''m wishing only the best news to come for you!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Date: 1/3/2009 5:48:16 PM
Author: blushingbride

Date: 1/3/2009 12:59:57 PM
Author: lovelylulu
Hello ladies,


AFF finally came a knocking today

Despite the fact that I have consistently had 14-day luteal phases for all the cycles I''ve kept track of, this time around it was 16 days. and obviously I got my hopes up. I mean it''s enough to expect the disappointment that comes when AFF shows up month after month, but it''s pretty cruel to be kept in the suspense of ''could it be, could it finally be'' only to be met with some fierce cramps and followed by my own half-hearted reassurances that maybe next month will be the month. I suppose it''s good that I''ve got a Dr. visit scheduled for this Thursday. I''m feeling a bit spent by this process right now.

Lovely - I went through the EXACT same thing you did this month - in fact, I can''t believe the similarities! We had perfect timing, my monitor matched up perfectly with my temps (always does) and not only that, but my period was two days late. My LP is normally 11-12 days (used to be 9 back in April and May before we officially started TTC), but this month it was 14. I really thought I''d be starting my new year with a BFP, only to be met head on by AFF! So frustrating! DH goes for a SA tomorrow so, we are moving forward in the process. Good luck with the doctor this week - let us know what he/she says! On ward and upward!

Blushing, hoping good news to come!!

Um, what''s an SA?

 

[Sha]

Fisher, I think SA means semen/sperm analysis....

Lulu, sorry about AF as well. This process is really something, isn''t it? It really is like an emotional rollercoaster. One minute you''re up and feeling hopeful, then the next hour you''re down and crying..... (Sigh!). If I have a chance this cycle I am seriously considering not temping during the tww, because of all the emotional stress involved.

Peony, thanks for replying about the Clomid. I guess it''s good that your doctor is being conservative about prescribing Clomid, with the increased risk of multiples. That makes me think that I may be at increased risk as well, since I already O on my own, although late, but I''m not sure how strong of an "O'' it is. Hmmm.
Anyway, do you think you will consistently O that late in your cycle? Any worries about having to wait so long to O?

 

[fisherofmengirly]

That totally makes sense, Sha. Thanks!

I know you were asking Peony about the late ovulation thing, but I have had two cycles with late ovulations, and while it's not this wonderful thing, I have read that if you have cycles with *normal* timed cycles, then you're not at the same risk for not being able to become pregnant on your own than if you were consistently ovulating late. I think that a lot of times women do ovulate late, for one reason or another, and most women aren't aware of it because they don't log temperatures and things of that nature. What I've read is that if this is a consistent, continuous issue, then it's something to have checked and possibly have medical intervention (meaning medication such as clomid). I have called my Dr (the old one from the state I used to live in), as well as the new Dr. who I've not yet seen, regarding my cycles and the two late ovulations, and both said that it's not uncommon and that if you know you're ovulating, you really need to give it more time before looking into starting with Clomid or things of that nature, as there are other issues that always can come up when you introduce something into your system. That was enough to give me peace to hold on for another couple cycles and see what happens. Still, everyone is different (and Drs. are, too).

Is there a way for testing to be done to see if you have a "strong ovulation," as you mentioned? I'm curious.

 

[steph72276]

Date: 1/3/2009 5:55:39 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Steph,


Andrew is one of my most beloved boy names! What is his middle name? My favorite name for our son would be Seth Andrew. Sadly, Paul doesn''t like that name, but we do like Ryan Seth Andrew. Two middle names is fine with me, although I secretly hope that when he''s like 4, he''ll say he likes Seth or Andrew better than Ryan.

And I''m not sure if this is too personal (and if it is, then I understand and won''t expect a reply), but I was wondering how old Andrew is and how he''s reacted to the news about the baby. My sister in law had a miscarriage at 16 weeks and at the time she had two children, and the older (who was 3) took it really, really hard. The younger, age 1, didn''t really *get* it and didn''t show any signs of being upset. My sister in law read a book to Morgan (the older) and she thought that book really helped Morgan. The cool thing is that now all the kids know about Jesse (they named him when he passed) and talk about him freely and Morgan reads the book to the younger kids, who weren''t even born yet when it happened. It''s so neat to me to see how kids react to and process information. For Morgan, just knowing that Jesse was okay and in heaven was enough. Then years later, she had many more questions. The book was either Holly or Molly''s Rosebush. I can''t remember the name of the child, though. It''s a sweet story.


Again, if this is a topic you''d rather not get into, I totally understand. I doubt I''d be sharing information if this was my own situation. I apologize in advance if this the case for you, as well.


I''m wishing only the best news to come for you!

Hey! Actually Ryan was at the top of my list but hubby has a cousin with that name so he said it was out! I love Ryan Andrew. His middle name is Adam which is my hubby''s name. They have a tradition that goes back lots and lots of generations where the first son has the father''s first name as his middle name.
Andrew just turned 4 a few months ago. He took the news really hard. He was in on it from the beginning and we made a huge deal out of him being a big brother so he would get excited about it. I had the surgery 2 days before Christmas and with family here and Santa''s visit, he got distracted and didn''t say anything about the baby for a few days. Then a few days ago, he started drawing pictures of our family and put a baby in mommy''s tummy and asked when the baby was coming. So I sat him down and told him "mommy and daddy thought we were having a baby, but the doctor checked and said we''re not having one just yet, but maybe really soon". I didn''t want to have to go into anything big because I didn''t think he would get it. But he took it really hard, started crying and said "mommy, you lied to me! Over and over again until hubby could get him calmed down....it was very sad for all of us. Today he said, maybe in the spring you will have a baby in your belly again and I said yep, I hope you are right. Anyway, thanks for asking about us...it is tough but I know we will get through it.

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Oh, Steph. I hope that in the spring there will be another baby in your belly. And I think that when that time comes, your son will be just as excited and happy, and that there''s much to be said for parents building up the "big brother" thing, as it helps a child in transitioning from a single to an older sibling, and it includes them in the growing of the family.

Thank you for sharing. And I''ll keep all of you in our prayers.

 

[sunkist]

Thanks Peony! You made me feel better. I''ll be patient and get started on the BDing. That will keep my distracted, right?

I love thinking about baby names too. Steph your boy is adorable! I''m sorry he took the news so hard. He will be a great older brother when the time comes.

Fisher how was your recent trip to see family? or are you still there?

--
CD11

 

[steph72276]

Thanks, Sunkist...hopefully 2009 will be the year for all of us!

 

[peonygirl]

Gosh, Sha, I just don''t know! I really wish that I had more answers. My cycles just keep getting longer and longer! I forgot, but have you had your CD3 tests yet?

Fisher, maybe I should have used the word "sufficient" and not "strong," but my progesterone test was the one that showed that I ovulated. It''s a test done 7 DPO, since the ruptured egg follicle is what produces the progesterone and it peaks around then. Anyway, a level of 5 ng/ml shows probable ovulation, but most drs like to see at least 10 ng/ml on a non-medicated cycle to confirm ovulation. My level was 11.2. I think that it would be worth trying next time so you can have a quantitative data point.

Steph, I read the story about your son earlier and was very touched! He seems like such a sweet kiddo who''d be an amazing big brother! It must have been hard to figure out what to say to him after he asked, since if you had told him that something happened to the baby and it was no longer "alive" that might really scare him. *hugs*

 

[peonygirl]

I finally went back to read the posts I missed when I was at my in-laws! Some highlights:

Fisher: I missed your posts about the bike! I just got one less than a yr ago and I love it. It''s actually a pink and purple girl''s bike because I can get away with that at 5''1''''.

I used to bike to work, but now I can''t because it''s too cold here. How''s the weather where you are? I showed my DH that sweet thing you wrote about him, and he was touched.

Amber: Thanks so much sweetie! I hope you''re feeling a little bit better!

inluv: Cute puppy!

Littlelysser: How are you doing? When did you miscarry last time, and have you reached that point yet? I hope you will feel much more relaxed when you reach it and pass it! The fact that your tests are so dark is a GREAT sign!

Sha: I guess that you already did your CD3 tests and even took the Clomid! I''m guessing that your tests turned out fine? I''m hoping for good things for you this time around. As far as what my DH knows, he pretty much knows everything I know because we discuss it and he looks at my chart on a regular basis. He didn''t do the FF course like I did, but I explained stuff on the way. Also, might be TMI, but he also makes an effort not to pleasure himself around my most fertile times. Don''t want to waste those potential kiddos, ha!

November: Thank goodness your super long cycle is done! Hope you won''t have to go through that again!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Sunkist I think you ovulated on CD 18 or 19 last cycle, so don''t worry and get on with the BDing!

 

[littlelysser]

Hi ladies. Happy New Year. I''m sending so many baby vibes this way it is insane.

As for me, I''m still here, still hanging in. Still cheering my ladies on!

I''m not ready to post in the prego thread. Maybe after a bit longer, I don''t know. My CM was a touch brown today, but it went away pretty quickly. I feel every cramp and twinge and compare it to what I felt last time. I''m 23 DPO - and past the point where I had the miscarriage by four days. Not that I''m counting. I''m doing alright. To be honest, I''m having some issues with anxiety this time around - I went from ambivalent to anxious in about 2.2 seconds. I''ve been having some trouble eating and sleeping...I''m trying to get things under control. I have a WONDERFUL doc, who I spoke with on Friday, and she gave me some great coping techniques, recommended reading, and the names of a couple folks I could speak with...so that is where I am.

I''d like to stay around here for a bit longer, but if you guys don''t want me hanging around, I totally understand, and I swear I won''t be insulted at all. Feel totally free to let me know - I really mean that.

Lulu - I''m sorry. That just totally blows. I wonder if you maybe had a chemical pregnancy? I don''t know. Either way, it stinks and I''m sorry. And I''ve said it before and I''ll say it again - I think it is especially cruel to get AFF at the SAME TIME that one is emotionally a bit on edge due to hormonal issues. It is really odd how you, BB and Fisher had unusually long cycles. Feh.

Fisher - I was very sad to read about your disappointment this cycle. And I think an anniversary baby would be fabulous!

Steph - I''ve been taking the GNC vitamins for the past eternity. My doc recommended ''em because we were TTC and I had slightly low iron...I haven''t had any problems with them thus far. And I''m glad to hear that your son is doing better with things. You''ve been in my thoughts.

Sunkist - I agree with DD that you O''d on CD 18 or 19. And as far as I know, there isn''t any problem with an 11 day LP.

BB - I hope you had a wonderful NYE, full of bubbly and fun! Good luck with the SA! I''m hoping for nothing but good news! And thanks for the sticky vibes! I appreciate it for sure! Perhaps throw a couple non-nutter vibes my way too!

Amber - Hope you are doing well and had a great NYE!

Alright, I''m off to try to get some sleep!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Gals, sorry to talk about preggo stuff here, but I really wanted to give Lysser a shout out and I know you will all understand since she is our good friend!

Lysser you are now past the 5 week mark and so are into a much better zone for rates of m/c!

That is the first sigh of relief point I think, followed by the 12 week mark. And I want to tell you that fears, anxieties, worries, doubts and general craziness are NORMAL in the early stages of being KTFU. Sometimes, I think that just knowing that what you are feeling is normal and will pass with time can really help take some of the teeth out of the emotion, especially worries. If you can just think, "Yup, I''m freaking out but that''s okay, everyone feels like this!" then it can be easier, at least it does for me. And yuppers, sister, everyone feels like that to some degree! It can be a slow process of getting used to being preggo, I know it took me a looong time (20 weeks?? Haha). But I actually think joining the preggo thread was a good thing for me because there were a bunch of others at the same stage as me and we all felt the same way and the comraderie was helpful. So rather than making me feel worse, I felt a lot better when I started spending time there. Talking with others really helped me to enjoy being pregnant without all the pressure I felt talking about it in real life. So when you feel ready, please come on over. {{{HUGS}}}

 

[peonygirl]

Lysser, I am so happy to see you again! I definitely think that you should stick around here for a while. I will welcome you with open arms unless you lose your head and start saying things like, "Woe is me, now that I''m pregnant I have to cut down my usual 3 cups of coffee a day to only 1! This is so terrible!" or some other dumb stuff, ha! I''m sure you won''t say that, I''m just teasing.

There are SO many people here who''ve had chemical pregnancies followed by healthy full-term babies, so I really have high hopes for you. That''s terrific that you have such a great doctor.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 1/4/2009 1:00:07 AM
Author: peonygirl
Lysser, I am so happy to see you again! I definitely think that you should stick around here for a while. I will welcome you with open arms unless you lose your head and start saying things like, ''Woe is me, now that I''m pregnant I have to cut down my usual 3 cups of coffee a day to only 1! This is so terrible!'' or some other dumb stuff, ha! I''m sure you won''t say that, I''m just teasing.

There are SO many people here who''ve had chemical pregnancies followed by healthy full-term babies, so I really have high hopes for you. That''s terrific that you have such a great doctor.

haha... well said! And Peony, I have high hopes for YOU!!

 

[peonygirl]

Aww, thanks Dreamer! When are you due again? And how has the pregnancy-on-the-job-interview-circuit schtick been? I might be hugely pregnant during my med school interviews, so I need to be prepared.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 1/4/2009 1:27:21 AM
Author: peonygirl
Aww, thanks Dreamer! When are you due again? And how has the pregnancy-on-the-job-interview-circuit schtick been? I might be hugely pregnant during my med school interviews, so I need to be prepared.

Feb 28, so I was 7 months at my first interview and will be 8 months along by the last (3 interviews scheduled so far). I think your experience being preggo on the job market will depend what kind of pregnancy you have! I am finding it okay since my energy and health are really good, but I think it would be a lot harder if there were any complications and especially if your energy was low. As well, in my field and probably in Canada in general, they are VERY conscious of not discriminating so the reaction was very positive... actually beyond "congrats" there was very little said! I think it is a non-issue given that they are trying to woo me as much as I am trying to win them over, and so they don''t seem to care. Also, the start date for the job isn''t until about 6 -10 months after I am due, so my pregnancy is really not relevant to the job. I am not sure how things will be different for you at med school interviews because it is such a different situation--they are admitting lots and lots of people, and I don''t know what types of qualities they are looking for and whether those qualities will be viewed more negatively when you are pregnant. Research actually suggests that people are more likely to discriminate against negatively stigmatized minorities in hiring decisions when they are hiring LOTS of people rather than just one person or two people. So unfortunately, this may make it easier for them to discriminate against you in your situation

. The reality is that the perception of pregnant women is that they are not very capable (this is just and exaggeration of the perception of women in general, ufortunately

), and so I think it is really important to be strong, vigorous, agentic, smart, and put together if you are interviewing when preggo. In the end, you want kids and so I think it is important to just go ahead with that plan and trust that everything will work out! You can''t control the perceptions of potential schools, so you may as well just live your life and work with whatever happens.

 

[steph72276]

Date: 1/3/2009 9:48:12 PM
Author: peonygirl

Gosh, Sha, I just don''t know! I really wish that I had more answers. My cycles just keep getting longer and longer! I forgot, but have you had your CD3 tests yet?

Fisher, maybe I should have used the word ''sufficient'' and not ''strong,'' but my progesterone test was the one that showed that I ovulated. It''s a test done 7 DPO, since the ruptured egg follicle is what produces the progesterone and it peaks around then. Anyway, a level of 5 ng/ml shows probable ovulation, but most drs like to see at least 10 ng/ml on a non-medicated cycle to confirm ovulation. My level was 11.2. I think that it would be worth trying next time so you can have a quantitative data point.

Steph, I read the story about your son earlier and was very touched! He seems like such a sweet kiddo who''d be an amazing big brother! It must have been hard to figure out what to say to him after he asked, since if you had told him that something happened to the baby and it was no longer ''alive'' that might really scare him. *hugs*

Thanks, sweetie. You are in my thoughts too. I think this will be our year!

 

[steph72276]

Thanks guys for the recommendations on vitamins. I am going to the doc for a check-up tomorrow, so I will ask her but sometimes I feel like they try to push the prescriptions when they might not be necessary. Thanks again!

 

[Blenheim]

That''s such a bummer about all of the long cycles. I still have high hopes for all of you girls! I bet that 2009''s the year.

Steph, Andrew is just dashing. Your story about him is so sad. I''m sorry for your loss.

Fishie, I really like all of your names. However, as someone who is living with two middle names, I''d urge you not to do it. When I got married, I changed my name to Blenheim Middle Maiden Married. This was fine with the SSA, and is on my SS card, but the local state department would not accept it. The one compromise that we were able to come to was Blenheim Middle-Maiden Married. With the actual names, it looks more ridiculous. I know that you live in a different state, but if your kid were ever to move here or somewhere with similar rules they might run into problems. And even with that dang hyphen in the name, I still have a lot of people stare at my name on my drivers license for a good 30 seconds, then ask me what my last name is. I know people with last names like Andrews, so Andrew in the second-to-last spot could also confuse them. It''s enough of a hassle that I''d want to change it again to something with just three names if they didn''t all mean a lot to me. Oh, and a lot of forms just have spots for one middle initial, but I''ve just chosen to just go with the first one so I don''t find that to be all that much of a problem.

 

[Festy]

Hi Ladies,

I''ve been a little absent lately as we''ve been traveling and taking full advantage of our last days of vacation. I''ll surely miss some people, and to those I miss, please know that I think of all of you and have super high hopes for us all this year!

Lulu - I''m sorry that AF showed up late. CD 1 can be such misery...I hope that the sadness passes quickly.

Lysser - you are so thoughtful and yes please stick around. Heck, stick around for 9 months! I can think of no reason for you to high-tail it outta here. Hooray for 23 DPO!

Sunkist - I also think you ovulated. Were you considering switching thermometers? Maybe now is the time to try.

Blushing - I hope the SA goes well.

*******************

As for me, I''m taking this month off from temping and I feel great! I''m getting more sleep, I''m not obsessing as much...of course it''s only CD 7 so there''s still plenty of time to obsess.

I''m still going to monitor CM and give the BD marathon the ole college try. I''ll probably go back to temping next cycle, in anticipation of our appointment with the RE at the end of Feb. Oh yeah, I also ordered some pre-seed just for the heck of it. And naturally I ordered the package that comes with OPKs. I''m a little hesitant to try them, for fear that they will bring the obsessing back. Maybe I''ll wait til next cycle. Has anyone used the kind that come from earlypregnancytests.com?

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Hey Blen,

I''m a fellow first name, middle name, maiden name, last name girl. I couldn''t think of losing the name I''d always carried just because I''d found the best hubby ever! (Okay, I''m biased.) I do get some looks and there are times when I can''t put both middle names (because there is only a blank for one initial, etc.). It is bothersome, but I just go with the first middle initial and leave out the maiden name initial. It works out okay.

I wouldn''t mind having a Ryan Andrew. I think of the three, Seth is my least favorite. Haha. That''s funny, being that it''s always been my *top* boy name, but only when coupled with Andrew. Too funny.

We talk a lot about baby names, which is funny since I''ve heard so many times that baby names are changed like 3 times on average during a pregnancy. But I''m pretty stuck on my baby girl''s name, and while Paul doesn''t love it at times, it''s become our child''s name, if that makes sense. Our baby will be Callie Jayne, after the best state in the nation (California, of course) and his mother, who''s middle name is Jane. I like it with a Y, but would give up the Y if it meant we could keep Callie. I talk about Callie all the time, and I think it''s grown on him, other than he''s not a fan of California like I am.

How about you? Have the name choices narrowed down? I saw the post a while back about names, all so classic and what I''d really imagine you picking for your children. I''ve always thought of you as elegant and distinguished. Isn''t it odd the pictures we create in our heads of our online friends?

***
LL,

You''re welcome here FOREVER!! I *love* it when our preggo friends come back to say hi to us, and I like knowing that even though they''ve passed our phase of TTC, they still come back to check in and offer support. It''s a great group that we have here. I also, will most likely hang out around here for a while before going to the preggo thread. It just takes time for it to seem *real* and like I''d really deserve to be there, you know?

I have all kinds of happy thoughts for you, girl! This baby is going to be a healthy one, and cute as can be, too!

 

[Blenheim]

Fishie - as long as you''re aware that it can be bothersome and are cool with it! I''m hoping that other states are more reasonable about it (we don''t intend to live here forever) - have you had any problems?

Thanks for the compliments! The closer we get to actually having a real, live baby here, the more conservative we''re becoming. I think we''re down to Mary Augusta (or perhaps Virginia something) or George Everett (or maybe Edmund something?), but sometimes I feel like our girls names are too boring and we should go with Genevieve or Cordelia (which hubby hates) or Evangeline. At the same time, I like having a boring, non-frilly, classic first name. I have a feeling that we won''t know for sure until after the baby comes what we''re going with.

Do you think that Paul might prefer something like Calliope or Calista, nickname Callie? It might go over better if he''s not such a fan of Cali the state. I love Jane.

 

[Sha]

Date: 1/3/2009 6:57:05 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
That totally makes sense, Sha. Thanks!

I know you were asking Peony about the late ovulation thing, but I have had two cycles with late ovulations, and while it's not this wonderful thing, I have read that if you have cycles with *normal* timed cycles, then you're not at the same risk for not being able to become pregnant on your own than if you were consistently ovulating late. I think that a lot of times women do ovulate late, for one reason or another, and most women aren't aware of it because they don't log temperatures and things of that nature. What I've read is that if this is a consistent, continuous issue, then it's something to have checked and possibly have medical intervention (meaning medication such as clomid). I have called my Dr (the old one from the state I used to live in), as well as the new Dr. who I've not yet seen, regarding my cycles and the two late ovulations, and both said that it's not uncommon and that if you know you're ovulating, you really need to give it more time before looking into starting with Clomid or things of that nature, as there are other issues that always can come up when you introduce something into your system. That was enough to give me peace to hold on for another couple cycles and see what happens. Still, everyone is different (and Drs. are, too).

Is there a way for testing to be done to see if you have a 'strong ovulation,' as you mentioned? I'm curious.

Hi Fisher, that's interesting! But, just curious....what would you a "normal timed" cycle be? Is it cycles between 28-31 days only? I thought my cycles were pretty regular (period every 34 days or so), but the doctor didn't because I didn't have a period every month. I guess he thought I was a consistently late O'er...since I O'ed from CD19-20 on average over 5 cycles. (?) Although some docs would think that wouldn't be a problem - I guess all docs are different. I agree that since it's only been a few cycles of late O for you, that you should probably see what happens over your next cycle to get a clearer picture of what might be going on. Clomid is definitely not without risks - I'm kinda concerned about the increased risk of multiples myself.

Peony, yes, I did the CD3 bloodwork and am awaiting results right now. Also started and finished the Clomid - no major side effects. We'll see what happens!

I like Calista, Callie, and Genevieve for girls' names. Beautiful!

It's great to feel all the good vibes/well wishes floating around here for the New Year. Thanks to all and I hope we ALL get KTFU this year!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Sha,

It totally is a matter of the Dr. or professional or article you read, no doubt. By "normal" cycles I meant cycles that are the same typical length each month. I don't have "normal" cycles in that they are longer, consistently, than the average cycle. However, since I've found that my "typical" time to ovulate is between 19-24 days into the cycle, that's not a concern (for me, anyway) unless the longer times of ovulation (as in this last cycle, where it was CD 44) becomes a consistent issue. Anyway, I think "normal" is different for everyone, and the most recent phone consult I had with my Dr. (the old one, out of state) stated that since I've always had longer cycles, this isn't a bad thing necessarily, and just encouraged me to keep logging my temps and seeing when I ovulate. She did advise that I see a Dr. if we've not conceived by late spring, as that is when we stopped using contraceptives to prevent pregnancy, and that would put us at the year mark for trying to have a baby.

Sorry that my other post was confusing. I'm good at that sometimes!

Thinking great thoughts for you this cycle, and I'm glad there haven't been any side effects from the Clomid!!

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Blen,

This state's been okay about things, for the most part. I did have to go rounds with the lady who took my information for my driver's license after marrying. She said that I can't have two middle names. I said, "well, I do. And it's my legal name." She said she didn't think she could make it all fit. I told her I was sure she could, since if my name had been Alexandria Esmereldina Fergusson (only it was some other equally long name), I was sure she could have put it on my card, and I'd appreciate having my whole name on the thing, as it would be my most frequently used form of identification. She was an older woman, made a comment about once you marry, you don't keep your maiden name, and rushed off. The person who took her place was much nicer.

That was my only issue with it so far.

Calista is a pretty name. Paul's pretty much against any name that is a famous actress name, though. He says it "cheapens" a name. So, I don't know that Calista would work. But I'll ask. Really, I think he's just trying to be tough about it, since he slips and says things like "Callie's room" when referring to the baby room and things like that. He's a nut.

Evangeline is one of my favorite names, as it lends itself to many nickname choices. That and it's so eloquent.