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LAJennifer - Not accurate if you get the SHOT. There will be 2 different kinds of H1N1 vaccines available, just as there are 2 different kinds of regular seasonal flu vaccines available. One is a shot and one is an intranasal mist.Date: 10/6/2009 9:09:33 PM
Author: LAJennifer
Date: 10/6/2009 8:46:14 PM
Author: HOUMedGal
OMG, Lindsey!!Soooo happy for you!!! BEST of luck as this little one continues to grow, and I will continue to pray for an easy pregnancy for you. Girl/Rh- sure would be easiest, wouldn''t it? But if it doesn''t end up that way, it seems like you''re in good spirits about dealing with the IVIG, transfusions, etc. I will pray for a strong, healthly baby!!
Fisher, LOVE the furball. AAAAAAdorable.And good luck with your HSG.
RE: flu shots...I''ve already had my regular flu shot, and I will be getting my H1N1 vaccine as soon as it is available to me (probably pretty soon, since I''m in healthcare). It is especially important that pregnant (or soon-to-be-pregnant) women get all the protection they can against the flu, especially H1N1...we aren''t entirely sure why, but what we''re seeing is that pregnant women are getting really sick with H1N1, and the mortality is markedly higher in pregnant women who get it than in the general population. Scary.
HouMedgal - I read (or heard) that if you get the H1N1 vaccine, that you shouldn''t conceive in the following 3 months. What is the reason for that? Or is that even accurate?
Date: 10/7/2009 10:09:32 PM
Author: *Lindsey*
drk - would not need IViG if Boy/Rh-, sorry thought I had clarified. Very complicated!
Date: 10/7/2009 6:12:39 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
LAJen,
Girl, every one of us thinks, hopes, prays that our first month of trying will be magical and will be *the* cycle. I'm so thankful that it works out that way for some of us (gives a girl hope!!), although it's not reality for most women. Not a stupid confession at all, more like a truthful one most of us here have also lived. I've gone beyond that to the 'Oh, in the first 6 cycles, the first cycle on Clomid, surely before a year,' and on and on. Truthfully, I'm trying to stop doing that but I still have a little ticker in my mind that I can't swipe away completely that ticks off the months, as 2009 fades away. The thing is, I don't want my life to be that because there is so much more than creating a baby to be done in this world. It comes and goes, the pangs. Just keep on keeping on and I hope you're able to see a Dr. soon. It really does bring some peace (mostly).
And hoping good results from your husband's test last night!
Date: 10/7/2009 7:42:46 PM
Author: HOUMedGal
Date: 10/6/2009 9:09:33 PM
Author: LAJennifer
Date: 10/6/2009 8:46:14 PM
Author: HOUMedGal
OMG, Lindsey!!Soooo happy for you!!! BEST of luck as this little one continues to grow, and I will continue to pray for an easy pregnancy for you. Girl/Rh- sure would be easiest, wouldn''t it? But if it doesn''t end up that way, it seems like you''re in good spirits about dealing with the IVIG, transfusions, etc. I will pray for a strong, healthly baby!!
Fisher, LOVE the furball. AAAAAAdorable.And good luck with your HSG.
RE: flu shots...I''ve already had my regular flu shot, and I will be getting my H1N1 vaccine as soon as it is available to me (probably pretty soon, since I''m in healthcare). It is especially important that pregnant (or soon-to-be-pregnant) women get all the protection they can against the flu, especially H1N1...we aren''t entirely sure why, but what we''re seeing is that pregnant women are getting really sick with H1N1, and the mortality is markedly higher in pregnant women who get it than in the general population. Scary.
HouMedgal - I read (or heard) that if you get the H1N1 vaccine, that you shouldn''t conceive in the following 3 months. What is the reason for that? Or is that even accurate?
LAJennifer - Not accurate if you get the SHOT. There will be 2 different kinds of H1N1 vaccines available, just as there are 2 different kinds of regular seasonal flu vaccines available. One is a shot and one is an intranasal mist.
The shot, or intramuscular injection, is an INACTIVATED virus vaccine (meaning that there are no live viruses within the vaccine, just parts of dead viruses so that your body can identify these parts and create antibodies against them...but they CANNOT cause an actual infection with the virus). On the other hand, the intranasal mist vaccine is a LIVE ATTENUATED virus vaccine (meaning that there are indeed live viruses within the vaccine that have been altered/attenuated so as to greatly reduce the chance of them actually causing a full-blown infection in the person immunized). From Dr. Spock.com: ''Live attenuated vaccines usually are created from the naturally occurring germ itself. The germs used in these vaccines still can infect people, but they rarely cause serious disease. Viruses are weakened (or attenuated) by growing them over and over again in a laboratory under nourishing conditions called cell culture. The process of growing a virus repeatedly-also known as passing--serves to lessen the disease-causing ability of the virus. Vaccines are made from viruses whose disease-causing ability has deteriorated from multiple passages.''
It is fine for pregnant women (or those trying to conceive) to receive inactivated virus vaccines (i.e. the flu SHOT). However, pregnant (or TTC, since could be pregnant at any time) women should not receive live attenuated vaccines (such as the flu MIST).
Also, another inportant thing to know is that there is nothing new and different about the H1N1 vaccine except for the strain of influenza that is used to make the vaccine. The exact same production mechanisms are being used for H1N1 that are used every year to make the regular seasonal flu vaccine. Which also means that the H1N1 vaccine is JUST AS SAFE TO GET as the regular flu vaccine. Even as a physician, I would be very nervous to get it if it were made using some brand new kind of vaccine-making process that hadn''t been tested for safety and efficacy...but, lucky for us, that''s not the case. Look at it this way: every year, the flu shot is a ''new'' vaccine, in the sense that every year epidemiologists predict which strains of influenza will be most prevalent that year based on historical patterns and other info, and incorporate those particular strains into the seasonal flu vaccine. This is the same thing that''s happening with H1N1...exact same vaccine, just a different strain of virus being used to create it.
So, to more directly answer your question, if you get the shot and not the intranasal mist, you should be fine to TTC whenever. And I do absolutely recommend getting the seasonal flu vaccine. I also recommend getting the H1N1 particularly if you do become pregnant soon. It''s going to be a wild fall/winter because we just don''t know what''s going to happen once seasonal flu starts rearing its ugly head in addition to H1N1, which is showing NO signs of slowing down. I got an email yesterday from my hospital''s virology department showing the viral isolates we have gotten over the past few months, and H1N1 has shot up dramatically and continues to do so.
Disclaimer: I obviously have some strong feelings about this topic, having seen some super sick children with H1N1 these past few months. And I have expressed my feelings and recommendations above, but this is a personal decision between people and their physicians. Please discuss these issues with your doctor and have them help you make decisions. Yes, I''m a physician, but I''m also just another woman on the forum, and while I''m A doctor I''m not YOUR doctor, which is a very important distinction.
Whew, that was a mouthful.But hope it helps anyone with unresolved questions about the flu.
Date: 10/8/2009 10:54:37 AM
Author: robbie3982
Houmedgal, if it''s the same vaccine with a different virus, why are they doing trials? I keep seeing all of these news stories about families being test subjects for the vaccine. Do they do trials each year with the regular flu vaccine?
me interesting results. i really don''t know what to make of them. only hope that you *are* ovulating!
lajennifer: to echo what just about everyone else has confirmed, we''ve all been there - thinking that this is the most natural thing in the world, why shouldn''t it happen immediately. unfotunately, natural things can be complicated and sometimes it just takes its sweet time. I''m really hoping that your time is up!
fisher: glad that you are mostly through your tests! good results await i''m sure.
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as for me I''m just waiting. waiting. waiting. Fun DPO9.
Date: 10/8/2009 3:07:06 PM
Author: neatfreak
Date: 10/8/2009 10:54:37 AM
Author: robbie3982
Houmedgal, if it''s the same vaccine with a different virus, why are they doing trials? I keep seeing all of these news stories about families being test subjects for the vaccine. Do they do trials each year with the regular flu vaccine?
Yes-they do them every year.
Date: 10/9/2009 1:07:43 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Whoop whoop!!!
Okay ladies, the HSG is nothing, absolutely nothing when compared to the biopsy. Seriously, I had no pains at all and I''m a big, big baby about pain. The process is nothing near as bad as I had it conjured up in my mind to be. Pretty simple, really. I went in at 10:35, out at 10:52. Not bad.
So, for anyone who may be going down the HSG road soon, the process went like this for me: My Dr. office doesn''t perform them, so I was referred to an outpatient section of the hospital (where they also do mammograms... the whole office waiting area was full of women talking about getting their breasts smooshed soon...). I was really nervous about having a Dr. I''ve never known or even seen before prodding about in my baby making area, but hey, what can you do? At least it''s preperation for all the Drs. that poke and prod when pregnancy comes around. The tech. was super sweet, very calming, answered every question I had and showed me all the tools involved (which was really cool and helped to relax me, knowing what was coming and all that). She said that the screen would be visible to me and I''d know before I left if there were any problems at all with my tubes. That was really good because I''d spent more than enough time worrying and thinking about pain, possible outcomes, etc.
First it''s just like a pap... speculum, forceps, all that fun stuff. They clean the cervix (cold!!) and then they weave the catheder in with the dye in (by the way, the dye is clear and sticky, but shows up brownish/blue/red on the screen). I honestly didn''t feel the catheder going in, but I did feel the dye going in. Slight pressure, kind of odd, made me think I needed to pee. Then at the end of the catheder is a balloon that fills up to close off the cervix so the dye can''t leak back out. Once everything was in place where they wanted it to be, the xray scanner was pulled over me, like a box over my mid-section and they moved the box in various spots, taking pictures along the way. I could see my uterus shaped like an odd triangle (more short and wide than I thought it would, I thought it''d have more height, for whatever reason). The Dr. said all uteruses (is that a word, or is it uteri??) are different and mine looked just normal as could be. She did say an ultrasound would better determine that than this would, but it was still interesting to see the shape of it because of the dye. Then I saw the dye start moving up this tiny little path, almost like a curly, wavy hair. Then it did the same on the other side. The Dr. said both were perfectly clear and there were no concerns with either of them, all appeared well. So excited! I cried... Tube problems seriously has been my biggest fear because tube blockages (if it''s both tubes, anyway) almost always end up meaning IVF if a family wants to grow, and we''ve decided not to go that route.
All in all, I''d rate it as a 3 on pain/uncomfort (I don''t think anything can be under a 3 when you''re delving around down there).
Tonight we''re having a special date night in celebration of clear tubes! I''ve been so overwhelmed with relief and peace and thankfulness since finding out. I feel more and more sure that this is happening for us, it''s just a matter of time. And that''s a good feeling to have on this road!
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Lulu,
Thinking about you girl, and hoping for a wonderfully expected *but not expected because we''re so used to let down* pregnancy this cycle!!
Date: 10/9/2009 3:16:52 PM
Author: robbie3982
Date: 10/8/2009 3:07:06 PM
Author: neatfreak
Date: 10/8/2009 10:54:37 AM
Author: robbie3982
Houmedgal, if it's the same vaccine with a different virus, why are they doing trials? I keep seeing all of these news stories about families being test subjects for the vaccine. Do they do trials each year with the regular flu vaccine?
Yes-they do them every year.
Why are the h1n1 trials being made out to be such a big deal then?