TomKat is born!

[snuga]

I hope that the baby is happy and healthy, and grows up far away from "daddy"!

 

[Angela1977]

This whole thing is disgusting to me. I have no ill will toward the baby, and I hope it grows up happy and healthy. But it''s going to start hearing about Xenu and the souls of aliens being dropped in a volcano in Hawaii and Thetons and all the other crap that Scientologists spew forth from the beginning....I don''t have high hopes.

And the baby''s name...Suri Cruise...
Sounds like some drunk guy slurring "Syracuse"

Rant off.

 

[Caribou]

Date: 4/19/2006 2:25:02 PM
Author: Angela1977


And the baby''s name...Suri Cruise...
Sounds like some drunk guy slurring ''Syracuse''

Rant off.

OMG that''s funny.

 

[Allisonfaye]

My theory has always been that he THOUGHT he was sterile all along and that''s why he knocked her up so fast. Why on earth would you have a baby with someone that you had only been dating for two months otherwise?

As far as Katie, I feel sorry for her. I have heard all these rumors about her looking starry eyed and glazed over. I think she has been brainwashed. I was kind of hoping she would come to her senses before marrying him.

 

[Mara]

Date: 4/19/2006 4:15:47 PM
Author: Allisonfaye

Why on earth would you have a baby with someone that you had only been dating for two months otherwise?

cuz it''s not yours but you want the world to think it is?

 

[rainbowtrout]

Date: 4/19/2006 2:25:02 PM
Author: Angela1977
This whole thing is disgusting to me. I have no ill will toward the baby, and I hope it grows up happy and healthy. But it's going to start hearing about Xenu and the souls of aliens being dropped in a volcano in Hawaii and Thetons and all the other crap that Scientologists spew forth from the beginning....I don't have high hopes.


And the baby's name...Suri Cruise...

Sounds like some drunk guy slurring 'Syracuse'


Rant off.

If you are going to insult someone else's religion, can you at least do it in an informed fashion? That stuff about Xenu is technically NOT talked about among church members at all, and certainly not spewed forth "from the beginning." It is supposed to be doctrinal secrets that you learn about as you progress towards their version of enlightenment.

Would you think it was ok if I said "gee, that baby is going to be exposed to all that crap about man being the son of God and nailed to crosses and rising from the dead."

No one seems to hugely care on these threads, but there ARE things to critique about this religion and that isn't really one of them.

And by the way, it's "Thetan," and it is just supposed to mean "immortal soul."

 

[Sparkster]

Date: 4/19/2006 11:27:46 AM
Author: SanDiegoLady

Date: 4/18/2006 7:32:16 PM
Author: FireGoddess
Guess it wasn''t a fake belly after all!

I wonder what the name means...I didn''t read the article so dunno if they say.

In one culture it means Princess.. I can''t remember the other meaning.. Its a pretty name, but why can''t celebs name thier babies normal names...?

I still feel badly for the child.. and.. I dont think its ''HIS'' specifically.. I think it was a planned baby.. And I still haven''t changed my mind about his being a freak.. or her now for that matter.

Nothing abnormal about the name at all. I''m of asian background with an anglo name. No one blinks an eyelid over my name nor do they think it''s abnormal. It is not abnormal for an anglo couple to give their baby a non anglo name either.

 

[fire&ice]

Interesting - Katie holmes indeed had an epideral & she was on the same maternity floor as Brooke Shields.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 4/19/2006 7:10:43 PM
Author: fire&ice
Interesting - Katie holmes indeed had an epideral

that''s good news. He said if she wanted one, she''d have one. I''m glad to hear she at least got that much..

 

[fortheloveofdiamonds]

RainbowTrout,

Although I am a christian woman, and believe that we are all brothers and sisters walking the same path, I agree with you. You have a very valid point. It is so easy to criticize what we don''t understand or agree with. Sometimes, it is best to reserve judgement when we don''t have all the details.

I wish the baby and her parents well.

 

[sydneycasandra]

Everyone keeps talking about how they hope that Suri grows up w/o influence from her "crazy father"...

But I wonder just how sane her mother can be for having this "slightly off-kilter" man''s child out of wedlock, nonetheless! Perhaps she''s not 100% with it either.

 

[moon river]

Date: 4/18/2006 7:14:13 PM
Author:february2003bride
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12376298/

Looks like Tom Cruise and Kat(i)e Holmes had their baby! With all the jokes and whatnot, I do hope her delivery went well and their baby is healthy.

In an ironic twist, Brooke Shields had her baby on the same day!

Now, any guesses on Tom and Katie''s new baby''s name? Do you think it''ll be normal or really out there?

Isn''t irony something!!!

 

[diamondfan]

SDL: I agree about some of the weird names given by celebs to their kids. I think it is tough enough to grow up these days without adding to it. Granted, when I was growing up I HATED my name, it is normal but was not common then. Everyone was Lisa, Susie, Debbie, etc and that was all I wanted. Now, my name is SOOO common where I live I do double takes sometimes. I named my three kids names, both first and middle, that I thought were nice, and that would sound good in all careers and such. I cannot imagine Princess Trixi running a huge company...not that she will likely need to...but, I thought about all the differents paths taken and would it sound silly? I just wish the celebs would think long term...but I guess we will see some of these kids changing their names at 18. (Jaoquin Phoenix was Leaf or something and he changed it, not the Joaquin is so run of the mill!!!)

 

[Sparkster]

Date: 4/20/2006 1:49:39 AM
Author: SanDiegoLady

Date: 4/19/2006 6:50:26 PM
Author: Sparkster

Date: 4/19/2006 11:27:46 AM
Author: SanDiegoLady

Date: 4/18/2006 7:32:16 PM
Author: FireGoddess
Guess it wasn''t a fake belly after all!

I wonder what the name means...I didn''t read the article so dunno if they say.

In one culture it means Princess.. I can''t remember the other meaning.. Its a pretty name, but why can''t celebs name thier babies normal names...?

I still feel badly for the child.. and.. I dont think its ''HIS'' specifically.. I think it was a planned baby.. And I still haven''t changed my mind about his being a freak.. or her now for that matter.

Nothing abnormal about the name at all. I''m of asian background with an anglo name. No one blinks an eyelid over my name nor do they think it''s abnormal. It is not abnormal for an anglo couple to give their baby a non anglo name either.

I did say it was a pretty name and I didn''t imply anything else. I have plenty of friends who are of many many different backgrounds and come from many cultures, with all sorts of names. I was simply commenting on what this and other celebs name thier children, that is all.

I simply suggested that the celebs name thier children things you don''t hear often ''normal names''. For examples of odd names, Rein bow, Prince Michael I & , Prince Michael II othewise known as BLANKET, Moxie Crimefigter, Jermajesty, Banjo, Fifi Trixiebelle, George Forman naming all of his son''s George, and then there''s Pilot Inspektor (not kidding, its the name of the son from the guy on My Name is Earl), Moon Unit, Phinneaus & Hazel (nice names, old fashioned albeit still different) and Nicolas Cage''s new son Kal''el.. otherwise known as Superman. Te''a Leoni & David Duchovny named thier son Kyd. I watched an entire (late night didnt have anything better to do) show on the very weird names celebs have named thier children.. that was the only point I was making. I simply feel badly for the children who have to endure names that out of the ''norm''.

Sorry if I mistook your sentence. You wrote Its a pretty name, but why can''t celebs name thier babies normal names...? The fact that you said ''......but .......'' to me implied that it''s not a normal name.

 

[sydneycasandra]

Let us not forget Gwyneth Paltrow''s children, Apple and Moses. Not that there are anything wrong with those things, per se, but one sounds scrumptious and the other borderline sacreligious.

 

[rainbowtrout]

Date: 4/19/2006 7:39:23 PM
Author: fortheloveofdiamonds
RainbowTrout,


Although I am a christian woman, and believe that we are all brothers and sisters walking the same path, I agree with you. You have a very valid point. It is so easy to criticize what we don''t understand or agree with. Sometimes, it is best to reserve judgement when we don''t have all the details.


I wish the baby and her parents well.

Thanks. I''m actually an aetheist, FWIW, but I do appreciate religion as a force that can really make people better.

Anyway, I hope Katie realy does have a good head on her shoulders/knows what she is getting into.

 

[XChick03]

I''m not trying to hijack, but Nic Cage names his son Kal''El? As in Clark Kent''s ''real'' name? Please, please never ever let my FI see this. Our kids would be "Bruce Wayne," "Anakin" and "Kal''El."

 

[Angela1977]

Date: 4/19/2006 5:34:28 PM
Author: rainbowtrout

Date: 4/19/2006 2:25:02 PM
Author: Angela1977
This whole thing is disgusting to me. I have no ill will toward the baby, and I hope it grows up happy and healthy. But it's going to start hearing about Xenu and the souls of aliens being dropped in a volcano in Hawaii and Thetons and all the other crap that Scientologists spew forth from the beginning....I don't have high hopes.

If you are going to insult someone else's religion, can you at least do it in an informed fashion? That stuff about Xenu is technically NOT talked about among church members at all, and certainly not spewed forth 'from the beginning.' It is supposed to be doctrinal secrets that you learn about as you progress towards their version of enlightenment.

Would you think it was ok if I said 'gee, that baby is going to be exposed to all that crap about man being the son of God and nailed to crosses and rising from the dead.'

No one seems to hugely care on these threads, but there ARE things to critique about this religion and that isn't really one of them.

And by the way, it's 'Thetan,' and it is just supposed to mean 'immortal soul.'

Nah, I feel completely "informed" on this one. I don't consider scientology a religion...it's a cult. Any "religion" that demands that you pay money beofre you can reach their version of enlightenment is a bunch of crap. And scientology is an oddity in itself because you can technically (supposedly, because it seems doctrinely impossible to me) be a Jewish scientologist or a Catholic scientologist...so I'm not insulting a religion. I'm insulting a cult.
No I wouldn't think it's ok you said, well the stuff you were alluding to about Christianity. Christians don't hide their doctrine and don't demand money before you can find out what they're truly all about. Neither do Buddhists, or Muslims, or any other established organized religion.
I've got my facts straight...I've done a lot of research into scientology. I find it funny that a lot of people in this thread were saying derogatory things and I "pick on" something that's completely ridiculous and someone has to have a problem with it. Come on..

Oh, and please excuse my typo on "Thetan"...I did know what it meant though. Thanks for the correction...that helped!

 

[XChick03]

Just because you don''t agree with something, that doesn''t make it ridiculous. And just because you don''t believe in it, that doesn''t make it okay to criticize it. I don''t believe in or agree with Opus Dei and I think its more of a cult than a religion, but I''m sure there are people out there who would be offended if I went around calling it ridiculous and poking fun at it. You should try to respect everyone''s individual beliefs.

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 4/20/2006 10:39:09 AM
Author: Angela1977

Date: 4/19/2006 5:34:28 PM
Author: rainbowtrout

Date: 4/19/2006 2:25:02 PM
Author: Angela1977
This whole thing is disgusting to me. I have no ill will toward the baby, and I hope it grows up happy and healthy. But it''s going to start hearing about Xenu and the souls of aliens being dropped in a volcano in Hawaii and Thetons and all the other crap that Scientologists spew forth from the beginning....I don''t have high hopes.

If you are going to insult someone else''s religion, can you at least do it in an informed fashion? That stuff about Xenu is technically NOT talked about among church members at all, and certainly not spewed forth ''from the beginning.'' It is supposed to be doctrinal secrets that you learn about as you progress towards their version of enlightenment.

Would you think it was ok if I said ''gee, that baby is going to be exposed to all that crap about man being the son of God and nailed to crosses and rising from the dead.''

No one seems to hugely care on these threads, but there ARE things to critique about this religion and that isn''t really one of them.

And by the way, it''s ''Thetan,'' and it is just supposed to mean ''immortal soul.''

Nah, I feel completely ''informed'' on this one. I don''t consider scientology a religion...it''s a cult. Any ''religion'' that demands that you pay money beofre you can reach their version of enlightenment is a bunch of crap. And scientology is an oddity in itself because you can technically (supposedly, because it seems doctrinely impossible to me) be a Jewish scientologist or a Catholic scientologist...so I''m not insulting a religion. I''m insulting a cult.
No I wouldn''t think it''s ok you said, well the stuff you were alluding to about Christianity. Christians don''t hide their doctrine and don''t demand money before you can find out what they''re truly all about. Neither do Buddhists, or Muslims, or any other established organized religion.
I''ve got my facts straight...I''ve done a lot of research into scientology. I find it funny that a lot of people in this thread were saying derogatory things and I ''pick on'' something that''s completely ridiculous and someone has to have a problem with it. Come on..

Oh, and please excuse my typo on ''Thetan''...I did know what it meant though. Thanks for the correction...that helped!

I could not agree more!!! It appears that a snag of agreement on the whole scientology issue has been reached...Sorry but it is truly NOT a true religion per se, with valid doctrine to support it.

Hey, and after the way Tom has been basically advertising it, I wouldn''t want to be a part of something so bizarre...I feel bad for the masses of people who have fallen for this cult...

 

[DonaBella]

Date: 4/20/2006 1:49:39 AM
Author: SanDiegoLady

Date: 4/19/2006 6:50:26 PM
Author: Sparkster

Date: 4/19/2006 11:27:46 AM
Author: SanDiegoLady

Date: 4/18/2006 7:32:16 PM
Author: FireGoddess
Guess it wasn''t a fake belly after all!

I wonder what the name means...I didn''t read the article so dunno if they say.

In one culture it means Princess.. I can''t remember the other meaning.. Its a pretty name, but why can''t celebs name thier babies normal names...?

I still feel badly for the child.. and.. I dont think its ''HIS'' specifically.. I think it was a planned baby.. And I still haven''t changed my mind about his being a freak.. or her now for that matter.

Nothing abnormal about the name at all. I''m of asian background with an anglo name. No one blinks an eyelid over my name nor do they think it''s abnormal. It is not abnormal for an anglo couple to give their baby a non anglo name either.

I did say it was a pretty name and I didn''t imply anything else. I have plenty of friends who are of many many different backgrounds and come from many cultures, with all sorts of names. I was simply commenting on what this and other celebs name thier children, that is all.

I simply suggested that the celebs name thier children things you don''t hear often ''normal names''. For examples of odd names, Rein bow, Prince Michael I & , Prince Michael II othewise known as BLANKET, Moxie Crimefigter, Jermajesty, Banjo, Fifi Trixiebelle, George Forman naming all of his son''s George, and then there''s Pilot Inspektor (not kidding, its the name of the son from the guy on My Name is Earl), Moon Unit, Phinneaus & Hazel (nice names, old fashioned albeit still different) and Nicolas Cage''s new son Kal''el.. otherwise known as Superman. Te''a Leoni & David Duchovny named thier son Kyd. I watched an entire (late night didnt have anything better to do) show on the very weird names celebs have named thier children.. that was the only point I was making. I simply feel badly for the children who have to endure names that out of the ''norm''.

I totally could not have said it better...Obviously, these parents are not thinking of the impact ones name has on a little person going to school. Kids have it tough enough these days. Do we have to give them a strange name or out of the ordinary name as well???

Just because someone wants to name their child a non-anglo name does NOT give them the right to screw the kids'' future socially as well! I have always heard--and I choose to believe it--that the first gift a parent gives their child after the child is born is a good and decent name.

Now, most of the names mentioned here and other names that celebrities or others give their kids would NOT be considered gifts to me! Rather, a kid is now saddled with a label that makes the kid stick out like a sore thumb. Geesh! Talk about having self image problems right from the start!

I recognize and revere cultural names but, people, if you are going to give a kid one of those type of names, make it a middle name so he/she does not have to get laughed at, ridiculed or taunted as they grow up. I witnessed many a kid in school who had issues thanks to dear ole mom and dad proudly burdening them with a "different" or "cultural" name.

Its not fair to the kid...nothing you can say will convince me otherwise...

 

[Caribou]

Date: 4/20/2006 12:49:20 PM
Author: DeannaBana
Now, most of the names mentioned here and other names that celebrities or others give their kids would NOT be considered gifts to me! Rather, a kid is now saddled with a label that makes the kid stick out like a sore thumb. Geesh! Talk about having self image problems right from the start!

I recognize and revere cultural names but, people, if you are going to give a kid one of those type of names, make it a middle name so he/she does not have to get laughed at, ridiculed or taunted as they grow up. I witnessed many a kid in school who had issues thanks to dear ole mom and dad proudly burdening them with a ''different'' or ''cultural'' name.

Its not fair to the kid...nothing you can say will convince me otherwise...

I agree with every thing you said Deanna.

The thing is, these kids are already going to ''stick out'' and have to deal with who their parents are and all the attention that brings them..why make them stick out even more by giving them these kinds of first names. Why not either nick name them OR if they must give them the name make it a middle name. I was kind of surprised to find out Gwenyth Paltrow''s daughters full name (not sure I have the order right) Apple Blythe Allison Martin. Now, why not use Allison or even Blythe (since it''s her mothers name) as the first name and keep Apple in the middle?? I just don''t understand.

I was so disappointed when I heard that Jason Lee (My Name is Earl) named his son Pilot Inspektor.

 

[Angela1977]

Date: 4/20/2006 12:05:46 PM
Author: XChick03
Just because you don''t agree with something, that doesn''t make it ridiculous. And just because you don''t believe in it, that doesn''t make it okay to criticize it. I don''t believe in or agree with Opus Dei and I think its more of a cult than a religion, but I''m sure there are people out there who would be offended if I went around calling it ridiculous and poking fun at it. You should try to respect everyone''s individual beliefs.

I didn''t say that because I don''t agree with it, it automatically makes it ridiculous. I stated that I don''t feel that Buddhists, or Muslims, or Christians, or Jews are part of cults. I obviously can''t believe in all of those, so I obviously DO respect people''s individual beliefs. What I don''t believe in is brainwashing, which is an attribute of a cult. Should I have respected the beliefs of David Koresh''s followers, or some polygamists who believe that it''s ok to marry their 14 year old daughter off to a 50 year old man who already has 6 other wives? Should I respect the terrorists'' beliefs who feel that it was their calling to hijack 4 planes on September 11?
And actually, if I don''t believe in something, I absolutely have the right to criticize it. If I didn''t have that right, I wouldn''t be living in a "democracy" here in America, would I? We laud the President when he talks about the evil regime of Communism in Cuba, because he doesn''t agree with it. Republicans criticize Democrats all day long, and vice versa. We rename french fries, "freedom fries" because we didn''t agree with France not going to war with us. So PLEASE don''t tell me that I don''t have respect, or that I''m not okay in what I''m doing here. Scientology is absolutely a cult that has taken tons of money and energy from people. It has destroyed lives and families, based on the teachings of a psychotic science fiction writer whose own son is appalled at what his father taught. I''m not being unreasonable here, and frankly I''m shocked that anyone would possibly argue FOR them.

 

[XChick03]

Date: 4/20/2006 2:07:43 PM
Author: Angela1977

Date: 4/20/2006 12:05:46 PM

Author: XChick03

Just because you don''t agree with something, that doesn''t make it ridiculous. And just because you don''t believe in it, that doesn''t make it okay to criticize it. I don''t believe in or agree with Opus Dei and I think its more of a cult than a religion, but I''m sure there are people out there who would be offended if I went around calling it ridiculous and poking fun at it. You should try to respect everyone''s individual beliefs.

I didn''t say that because I don''t agree with it, it automatically makes it ridiculous. I stated that I don''t feel that Buddhists, or Muslims, or Christians, or Jews are part of cults. I obviously can''t believe in all of those, so I obviously DO respect people''s individual beliefs. What I don''t believe in is brainwashing, which is an attribute of a cult. Should I have respected the beliefs of David Koresh''s followers, or some polygamists who believe that it''s ok to marry their 14 year old daughter off to a 50 year old man who already has 6 other wives? Should I respect the terrorists'' beliefs who feel that it was their calling to hijack 4 planes on September 11?

And actually, if I don''t believe in something, I absolutely have the right to criticize it. If I didn''t have that right, I wouldn''t be living in a ''democracy'' here in America, would I? We laud the President when he talks about the evil regime of Communism in Cuba, because he doesn''t agree with it. Republicans criticize Democrats all day long, and vice versa. We rename french fries, ''freedom fries'' because we didn''t agree with France not going to war with us. So PLEASE don''t tell me that I don''t have respect, or that I''m not okay in what I''m doing here. Scientology is absolutely a cult that has taken tons of money and energy from people. It has destroyed lives and families, based on the teachings of a psychotic science fiction writer whose own son is appalled at what his father taught. I''m not being unreasonable here, and frankly I''m shocked that anyone would possibly argue FOR them.

I''m not arguing for anyone, but like you brought up, we''re in America, they are free to follow whatever ''psychotic'' beliefs they want. Who are you to judge them? It''s not like they''re hurting anyone. And I hardly think you can compare them to terrorists. They have odd beliefs, they aren''t mass murderers. I don''t agree with them either and I don''t believe in Santa, but should I go around telling everyone I think Santa is a load of crap?

 

[Caribou]

Date: 4/20/2006 2:13:11 PM
Author: XChick03

Date: 4/20/2006 2:07:43 PM
Author: Angela1977

Date: 4/20/2006 12:05:46 PM

Author: XChick03

Just because you don''t agree with something, that doesn''t make it ridiculous. And just because you don''t believe in it, that doesn''t make it okay to criticize it. I don''t believe in or agree with Opus Dei and I think its more of a cult than a religion, but I''m sure there are people out there who would be offended if I went around calling it ridiculous and poking fun at it. You should try to respect everyone''s individual beliefs.

I didn''t say that because I don''t agree with it, it automatically makes it ridiculous. I stated that I don''t feel that Buddhists, or Muslims, or Christians, or Jews are part of cults. I obviously can''t believe in all of those, so I obviously DO respect people''s individual beliefs. What I don''t believe in is brainwashing, which is an attribute of a cult. Should I have respected the beliefs of David Koresh''s followers, or some polygamists who believe that it''s ok to marry their 14 year old daughter off to a 50 year old man who already has 6 other wives? Should I respect the terrorists'' beliefs who feel that it was their calling to hijack 4 planes on September 11?

And actually, if I don''t believe in something, I absolutely have the right to criticize it. If I didn''t have that right, I wouldn''t be living in a ''democracy'' here in America, would I? We laud the President when he talks about the evil regime of Communism in Cuba, because he doesn''t agree with it. Republicans criticize Democrats all day long, and vice versa. We rename french fries, ''freedom fries'' because we didn''t agree with France not going to war with us. So PLEASE don''t tell me that I don''t have respect, or that I''m not okay in what I''m doing here. Scientology is absolutely a cult that has taken tons of money and energy from people. It has destroyed lives and families, based on the teachings of a psychotic science fiction writer whose own son is appalled at what his father taught. I''m not being unreasonable here, and frankly I''m shocked that anyone would possibly argue FOR them.

I''m not arguing for anyone, but like you brought up, we''re in America, they are free to follow whatever ''psychotic'' beliefs they want. Who are you to judge them? It''s not like they''re hurting anyone. And I hardly think you can compare them to terrorists. They have odd beliefs, they aren''t mass murderers. I don''t agree with them either and I don''t believe in Santa, but should I go around telling everyone I think Santa is a load of crap?

I don''t think that Angela is making judgement on people who are Scientologist, more that she''s giving her thoughts on the ''religion'' or ''cult'' (however one wants to refer to it). I agree with her though, that to me, it seems more like a cult than a religion.

Someone said something about Tom Cruise and Scientology...about him not being a good ''Spokesperson'' for it. I totally agree. To me, he made the ''religion'' more cultious after all of his antics.

 

[Angela1977]

Date: 4/20/2006 2:13:11 PM
Author: XChick03

I'm not arguing for anyone, but like you brought up, we're in America, they are free to follow whatever 'psychotic' beliefs they want. Who are you to judge them? It's not like they're hurting anyone. And I hardly think you can compare them to terrorists. They have odd beliefs, they aren't mass murderers. I don't agree with them either and I don't believe in Santa, but should I go around telling everyone I think Santa is a load of crap?

No, unless they're hurting people...and Scientologists are. They try to censor free speech, because if you speak out against them, you'll be threatened...pretty dangerous, don't you think? There are families who have lost many people who are precious to them because they never see their loved ones again once the loved one "joins up." L. Ron Hubbard's 2nd son is theorized to have been murdered by these people, because he was a homosexual (they're a very homophobic group). But that's speculation, so I'll let that one go. There are truly mentally ill people who haven't received the help they need, the medication they need, because they've been brainwashed to believe that scientology can help them, NOT psychiatry...and then they kill themselves. People leave the group and have their lives threatened...they report abuse and fear...or they die under mysterious circumstances and their families are lied to by the "church" as to what happened to them.
So do you honestly think that this group doesn't hurt anyone?

 

[Caribou]

Angela, you seem very well researched in Scientology. Were you just interested in knowning more about it, or do you have experience (whether it be you, or someone you know) with it?

I find it to be an odd ''religion'' and don''t really know a whole lot about it but have wanted to learn more.

 

[Angela1977]

Date: 4/20/2006 2:42:50 PM
Author: Caribou
Angela, you seem very well researched in Scientology. Were you just interested in knowning more about it, or do you have experience (whether it be you, or someone you know) with it?

I find it to be an odd ''religion'' and don''t really know a whole lot about it but have wanted to learn more.

I was "badgered" by some aquaintances to come check it out...get a reading, see what it was all about. Of course even just the initial reading was going to cost me some money. So I decided to do my own research into it...and once you start reading about it, it''s really unbelievable that anyone pays such large amounts of money to be spoon-fed such bullsh*t. I couldn''t stop doing research on it. I went to both pro and con sites, read books, read Dianetics, by Hubbard. (I like to read anyway...you''d be suprised at some of the weird stuff I read just because I like to see where people are coming from...gives you a good overview of the total human condition that way I think...which is why I think it''s funny that I was referred to as intolerant

). You wouldn''t believe what people have gone through with this group, what governments around the world have done to stop the spread of this cult in their respective countries, the unexplained deaths, the explained deaths for that matter, the control, the brainwashing, the lies they tell to the public. You have to sign a release form before you can receive their "spirtual healing." They subject you to total isolation, and if "anything happens" to you while in isolation, they''re not held responsible...the list truly goes on and on, as does the list of victims.
But they''re not hurting anyone...

(Sorry, I tend to get on a soapbox on this one...

)

 

[Caribou]

Well you seem very educated in it. So you didn''t end up actually going?? Sounds frightening.

I can''t believe the laundry list of celebrates that are involved in it.

 

[XChick03]

Hm, it is quite strange. Maybe the celebs are just being paid to raise some interest? In any event, you obviously know much more about them than me, Angela.