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We want your suggestions!
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Private messaging used to be here but unscrupulous vendors used it as a way to harass people about purchases...thus I have to say that I don''t think it''s such a great idea for that reason.
How helpful is PS to newbies if they can be harassed behind the scenes by vendors ya know? I know our beloved PS vendors wouldn''t do that...but there are many that would (and did).
How helpful is PS to newbies if they can be harassed behind the scenes by vendors ya know? I know our beloved PS vendors wouldn''t do that...but there are many that would (and did).
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Neatfreak,
To add to that, as an educational forum, we want everyone to have the opportunity to be in on discussions. With private messaging, there is much that would take place without others having the benefit of learning the same info.
Hopefully we can come up with a solution for all of that.
Andrey
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Hi Gailey,
The goal of this section is to give our community a place to offer suggestions so that we can improve pricescope as we go forward.
For example some of the things you will see soon are:
- a new site !!!
- adding images to the post an easier process.
- a better diamond search mechanism
- a better internal search
- a better sleaker image gallery
As stated above the video exchange and PM are under consideration.
You should not feel uncomfortable to bring anything up. Think of this as a sandbox for ideas.
If for any reason you are uncommfortable or just wish to make a suggestion in private, feel free to use the "Report Concern" button.
Ali and I are looking forward to everyones suggestions.
-Andrey
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Thanks Andrey (and Ali). I will start a new thread after supper tonight about my suggestions.
But I just wanted to add my thoughts to the PM issue. Have you considered a "semi" private message system? I''m envisaging private messages being vetted by a moderator before being passed on. I would think that would weed out any unscrupulous hounding by vendors. I know it probably means a ton more work for you guys though. Perhaps you could appoint volunteer moderators from long-standing members in good standing.
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Just to add to Neatfreak's post. Think of it as spammer using Private Messaging to spam. It is very difficult to try and do it when it is public, but imagine if it is private.
In addition I just feel it is not appropriate to monitor private messages.
This are just some of the down side of them, but doesn't mean we may not find a solution in the future.
Gailey
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I sort of agree with this. In fact I remember reading of posters'' outrage when on another forum they realised that their "private" messages weren''t so "private" after all.
My suggestion is slightly different. If you state up front that this is "SEMI-private" from the get-go and that it will be monitored in order to keep out spammers and those with un-scrupulous intentions out, then it becomes the responsibility of the poster as to what they put in their private messages.
I do think that any form of private messaging should be a privilege posters have to earn, perhaps by first clocking up, say 1000 posts, with no bad report card (probably counts me out straight away!). Just an idea ....
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Just saw this new area.
I''ll share 3 items briefly in response to what I''ve read here, and then post on one idea in particular.
First..can you share what is motivating the new site that is being planned for? Just a fresh look? My Giant food store in DC metro just put up a new logo, and when my son asked me why they did that, I was hard pressed to explain.
Second, one change would just be CQI..good things are here, and just be improved, and made better, or made to work. Mentioned in previous posts (or exchanges we''ve had) some of these include:
- Either getting rid of the AGS0 box in the diamond search options now, or explaining better what constraint this is providing when executed.
- Making the local Jeweler Resources area, above, under Resources/local jewelers, responsive to actual recommendations made by writers here.
Third, I think Gailey''s specific sort of suggestion, of requiring a minimum of posts (or Ideal Rock status being a similar threshold) as a requirement for PMs...and this constraint may satisfy the problem...along with allowing the writer to opt in and out of the use of this utility.
Many thanks for all your efforts in this area,
I''ll share 3 items briefly in response to what I''ve read here, and then post on one idea in particular.
First..can you share what is motivating the new site that is being planned for? Just a fresh look? My Giant food store in DC metro just put up a new logo, and when my son asked me why they did that, I was hard pressed to explain.
Second, one change would just be CQI..good things are here, and just be improved, and made better, or made to work. Mentioned in previous posts (or exchanges we''ve had) some of these include:
- Either getting rid of the AGS0 box in the diamond search options now, or explaining better what constraint this is providing when executed.
- Making the local Jeweler Resources area, above, under Resources/local jewelers, responsive to actual recommendations made by writers here.
Third, I think Gailey''s specific sort of suggestion, of requiring a minimum of posts (or Ideal Rock status being a similar threshold) as a requirement for PMs...and this constraint may satisfy the problem...along with allowing the writer to opt in and out of the use of this utility.
Many thanks for all your efforts in this area,
Amethyste
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Oooh I''m so glad that you are working on a better search function!! That will be GREAT!
As far as posting pictures, as much as this method is a bit of a pain, I like that the pictures are hosted on the site so they don''t disappear like on some other sites that allow linking to photobucket etc. I hope that stays the same!
Great ideas so far though!
As far as posting pictures, as much as this method is a bit of a pain, I like that the pictures are hosted on the site so they don''t disappear like on some other sites that allow linking to photobucket etc. I hope that stays the same!
Great ideas so far though!
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Hi Ira,
These are the major motivations for the new site:
* Pricescope infrastructure is reaching limitations due to growth.
* I want to stream line the general look and feel and make navigation easier for everyone.
* The new site should provide an easier infrastructure to add functionality such as better search, nicer gallery system and many other things.
etc.
So in general we want to improve and make it fun to be here.
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I really don't have the time to "talk" to anybody most of the time. It isn't that I feel unfriendly; quite the contrary! It is just that my family obligations keep me from engaging in much e-mail or joining any social sites other than Pricscope (which isn't really a social site but is for me).
I do not want my needs to control what happens to other people here. I would not like feeling that there were an absolute ban on my communicating with other Pricescope members off the boards. (I do not know that there is such a ban! I doubt it!) If there were some way for Pricescope to effect our ability to communicate when then desire was reciprocal, I think it would be nice.
I like shimmer's idea that members could choose each other as friends if we had Private Messaging. Another possibility would be to do what eBay does and ask both members if they wanted their e-mail addresses released to each other. The latter possibility would allow us to avoid Private Messaging.
AGBF
I do not want my needs to control what happens to other people here. I would not like feeling that there were an absolute ban on my communicating with other Pricescope members off the boards. (I do not know that there is such a ban! I doubt it!) If there were some way for Pricescope to effect our ability to communicate when then desire was reciprocal, I think it would be nice.
I like shimmer's idea that members could choose each other as friends if we had Private Messaging. Another possibility would be to do what eBay does and ask both members if they wanted their e-mail addresses released to each other. The latter possibility would allow us to avoid Private Messaging.
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Andrey:Date: 8/20/2009 7:04:44 PM
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Hi Ira,
These are the major motivations for the new site:
* Pricescope infrastructure is reaching limitations due to growth.
* I want to stream line the general look and feel and make navigation easier for everyone.
* The new site should provide an easier infrastructure to add functionality such as better search, nicer gallery system and many other things.
etc.
So in general we want to improve and make it fun to be here.
Andrey
I like your ideas...but have a couple concerns...
I hope all the contributed information and posts will be available.
I like the idea of a new site, I would not be happy to see any past posts or contributions wiped out.
I know there is a way to archive posts and make them a part of the new navigation system and hope you keep this in mind.
Being a long time member there are people I would like to connect with and exchange emails, but posting publicly is innappropriate for obvious reasons.
It would be neat to incorporate a feature that lets members choose who they would like to communicate with.
Lynn B
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I just now found this new forum!
What a wonderful, gracious topic for you guys (Ali and Andrey) to bring up to us! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I, too, would LOVE to see PMs brought back. It was such a nice way to personally communicate with someone that you just *click* with and want to get to know better. I really, really miss that!
It would also eliminate the existing "Paging So-and-So..." threads, and that would help "clean up" the boards a bit!
I do understand the situation of "unscrupulous" vendors possibly trying to sell their wares via PMs, but it could be clearly explained that this was not an appropriate use of PMs, and not allowed. Then if anyone got one of those types of PMs, they could "report" it to Admin, for appropriate action. OR... (oooh! better idea!) maybe a suggestion could simply be that vendors are NOT permitted to PM at all?
Honestly, there's really no reason why a vendor has to have PM capability. Every vendor here clearly states their e-mail address in every post they make (or they should, anyway), so it is not difficult for consumers here to contact a vendor on their own, off the boards.
I don't do Facebook (yet!) so I don't know much about it, but if it wouldn't be too much trouble for Admin, maybe it would be a good idea to kinda be able to set up a "network" of people you PM? I dunno, something like a 1st message saying, "So-and-So would like to PM you. Do you agree to this?" And then a simple confirmation (or not) and it can then happen (or not). But even without that feature, I personally don't see receiving massive quantities of unwanted PMs (from other PS'ers [not vendors, of course] as really being much of a huge problem.
That's my humble 2 cents. And again let me say "WOW!" and that I am so happy and excited to watch for the exciting changes you guys have in mind and come up with. THANK YOU so much for all your time and efforts in making PS such a FUN place to hang out and "play"!!!
xoxox!
Lynn
What a wonderful, gracious topic for you guys (Ali and Andrey) to bring up to us! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I, too, would LOVE to see PMs brought back. It was such a nice way to personally communicate with someone that you just *click* with and want to get to know better. I really, really miss that!
It would also eliminate the existing "Paging So-and-So..." threads, and that would help "clean up" the boards a bit!
I do understand the situation of "unscrupulous" vendors possibly trying to sell their wares via PMs, but it could be clearly explained that this was not an appropriate use of PMs, and not allowed. Then if anyone got one of those types of PMs, they could "report" it to Admin, for appropriate action. OR... (oooh! better idea!) maybe a suggestion could simply be that vendors are NOT permitted to PM at all?
Honestly, there's really no reason why a vendor has to have PM capability. Every vendor here clearly states their e-mail address in every post they make (or they should, anyway), so it is not difficult for consumers here to contact a vendor on their own, off the boards.
I don't do Facebook (yet!) so I don't know much about it, but if it wouldn't be too much trouble for Admin, maybe it would be a good idea to kinda be able to set up a "network" of people you PM? I dunno, something like a 1st message saying, "So-and-So would like to PM you. Do you agree to this?" And then a simple confirmation (or not) and it can then happen (or not). But even without that feature, I personally don't see receiving massive quantities of unwanted PMs (from other PS'ers [not vendors, of course] as really being much of a huge problem.
That's my humble 2 cents. And again let me say "WOW!" and that I am so happy and excited to watch for the exciting changes you guys have in mind and come up with. THANK YOU so much for all your time and efforts in making PS such a FUN place to hang out and "play"!!!
xoxox!
Lynn
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Hi Ira and Josh,
The current goal is to transfer all the posts over to the new system, so we do not lose any of the wonderful advice/contribution from the past.
It will basically be the same with a little diffrent look and feel with some new bells and whistles.
We have already run some test and I am happy with the results.
Thank you everyone for there suggestions so far.
-Andrey
The current goal is to transfer all the posts over to the new system, so we do not lose any of the wonderful advice/contribution from the past.
It will basically be the same with a little diffrent look and feel with some new bells and whistles.
We have already run some test and I am happy with the results.
Thank you everyone for there suggestions so far.
-Andrey
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