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Well, Now Brett Kavanaugh Can Face His Accuser

I wish people would delineate between socialism and a welfare state. The US is nowhere near socialism. I doubt most people screaming "Socialism! Socialism!" have any clue what it actually is, and what it would take to get from where the US is economically, to anything even vaguely resembling socialism.

If a welfare state is what you're talking about, there's every likelihood you're referring to the Nordic Model - the economic welfare system implemented by the Nordic states, or 'compassionate capitalism', which operates on a free market system but with government owned welfare safety nets.

The US, of course, already has certain government owned infrastructure, and nobody seems to resent public schools and government owned roads. We also pay our politicians, tho goodness knows why most of the time. But either way - they're paid out of government coffers.

The most interesting correlation, tho, is between social democracy (a la Bernie Sanders and the Nordic welfare system) and ranked happiness of individual countries. On the latest annual list of 'Happiest countries in the world', Finland comes in as number 1, Norway at number 2, and Denmark at number 3. Sweden performed abysmally, staggering in at ...number 9. The US was number 18, and there were 150 countries on the list out of a possible 195.

So I guess they're onto something.
 
@mrs-b I would welcome a discussion on this subject if you would like to start a thread. I don't think this thread is the place for it.
 
I think the dems should continue to call voters stupid. Please do it. I think it's hilarious. Especially every time Maxine Waters, Hank "will Guam tip over Admiral?" Johnson, Blumenthal, Durbin, and other intelligence free individuals get reelected. The same party that has a problem with Kavanaugh drinking beer and throwing ice elected a dope smoking, cocaine snorting dude as president. Please. :hand:

The alleged sexual allegations against Kavanaugh are falling apart. And races are tightening because of this circus. Reasonable people are waking up to the dems hand in this.


Hmmmm...You obviously see things differently than most. Trump's "performance" last night and Lindsey Graham's interview today have show JUST how unhinged the Republican Party has become:( Races are certainly tightening, just not to your advantage.

And pray tell who is the cocaine snorting dope smoking president you are referring to? :lol::lol:
 
Hmmmm...You obviously see things differently than most. Trump's "performance" last night and Lindsey Graham's interview today have show JUST how unhinged the Republican Party has become:( Races are certainly tightening, just not to your advantage.

And pray tell who is the cocaine snorting dope smoking president you are referring to? :lol::lol:
If your word of the word "most" is in reference to PS then I might agree with you but I do not if you are referring to the nation as a whole. We'll see how the races turn out.

As far as dope smoking and cocaine snorting, I could not care less which president did it in college, nor how much any college student drank. But the hypocrisy is out for all the world to see in this case. Just like the Keith Ellison situation.
 

If he were my brother I'd be his older sister and I'd be embarrassed as hell to have to the world know that my parents screwed up so bad on his upbringing. His own friends and former classmates describe him as a belligerent entitled punk. What kind of asshat throws their drink at someone in a bar?

If I were his daughter I guess I'd wonder if my dad will be ok with my own underage drinking and ok with lying under oath.

Why this fool hasn't stepped down to avoid further embarrassment for his family is beyond me.
 
I remember the 80’s well @jaaron. Where this took a turn to assault was they turned up the music, closed the door and he put his hand over mouth and nose to silence her. Men or boys, even back then didn’t do this. Rapists did this. Even back in the 80’s, I don’t know a girl or women who wouldn’t have felt she was being sexually assaulted the same way women knew when they were being date raped. It took a lot of guts for Dr. Ford to come out and tell her story. He doesn’t belong on the Supreme Court. She felt it was her duty as a citizen to speak because this is the highest court in our country. The woman has more courage than any of these Republican senators do.

Dr. Ford is just another women these men feel should shut up and deal with it. I have no doubt Kavanaugh feels he did nothing wrong. He was an entitled a$$hole who drank to excess.

Listening to Lindsay Graham and other Republican Senators this morning mad me sick to my stomach.

Any woman who listened to her testimony and not ask for another week to investigate further should lose her woman card. Women are second class citizens in our country. All women should be speaking out in Dr. Ford defense. Her story could very well be your daughter or granddaughters story some day.

Senator’s Whitehouse and Klobuchar are my heros this morning. They gave very powerful speech’s this morning.

Phone calls to RAINN were up 57% the past week, and this was before yesterday’s decision. For all the women and men making these calls, this wasn’t political.

I agree 1000 percent. I just meant that most of us who grew up in that generation can completely identify with why she never told anyone.
 
I think Democrats find people who voted for Trump - incredulous, that they voted against their best interests, a democrat knows that a person is no safer against the scary Muslim terrorist than when Obama was president. Most middle/low income people get no benefit from the Trump Tax Plan (including me). https://smartasset.com/taxes/heres-how-the-trump-tax-plan-could-affect-you

This makes people wonder how people can vote against their own best interest.. Stupidity comes to mind, low information voter is better. Who is the dope smoking, coke head? Do you mean Bush Jr.? I don't think that the races are tightening.. At least not to the Cooke Report.

So do you think Kavanaugh is a right wing nutcase? I do. His absolute rantings during his little hissy fit shows him to be unfit for the supreme court and he's too far right.. But time will tell if he's impeached.



I think the dems should continue to call voters stupid. Please do it. I think it's hilarious. Especially every time Maxine Waters, Hank "will Guam tip over Admiral?" Johnson, Blumenthal, Durbin, and other intelligence free individuals get reelected. The same party that has a problem with Kavanaugh drinking beer and throwing ice elected a dope smoking, cocaine snorting dude as president. Please. :hand:

The alleged sexual allegations against Kavanaugh are falling apart. And races are tightening because of this circus. Reasonable people are waking up to the dems hand in this.
 
Why this fool hasn't stepped down to avoid further embarrassment for his family is beyond me.

Call it a "man’s right to choose."

At least his family ‘shows up’ for and stands by him in his stance. I don’t see that happening for anyone else in this congressional crap show.
 
Could you explain this? He's the one who is seeking the job, so his family comes in with him, I personally think that a man who cries little boy tears and screams should not have his kids there, or his wife. Why should anyone else have their kids and wife there?


Call it a "man’s right to choose."

At least his family ‘shows up’ for and stands by him in his stance. I don’t see that happening for anyone else in this congressional crap show.
 
I think Democrats find people who voted for Trump - incredulous, that they voted against their best interests, a democrat knows that a person is no safer against the scary Muslim terrorist than when Obama was president. Most middle/low income people get no benefit from the Trump Tax Plan (including me). https://smartasset.com/taxes/heres-how-the-trump-tax-plan-could-affect-you

This makes people wonder how people can vote against their own best interest.. Stupidity comes to mind, low information voter is better. Who is the dope smoking, coke head? Do you mean Bush Jr.? I don't think that the races are tightening.. At least not to the Cooke Report.

So do you think Kavanaugh is a right wing nutcase? I do. His absolute rantings during his little hissy fit shows him to be unfit for the supreme court and he's too far right.. But time will tell if he's impeached.
How about we let people decide what their own best interests are instead of someone else deciding for them?

Obama was also a dope smoking cocaine snorter per his own words. And I could not care less.

No Kavanaugh is not a right wing nut case. He has every right to defend himself and show indignation to that panel of dems. To impeach him someone had better come up with a provable crime.
 
Could you explain this? He's the one who is seeking the job, so his family comes in with him, I personally think that a man who cries little boy tears and screams should not have his kids there, or his wife. Why should anyone else have their kids and wife there?

Kav didn’t have his daughters at the Ford hearing, btw. So what if he chose to surround himself with loved ones vs lawyers. I don’t know... maybe it’s kind of a big deal for a person to get nominated to the SC; their family is proud of & supports them; because there still ARE families who support each other for life’s good and bad moments.
 
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I agree 1000 percent. I just meant that most of us who grew up in that generation can completely identify with why she never told anyone.

I totally agree Jaaron.
 
Kav didn’t have his daughters at the Ford hearing, btw. So what if he chose to surround himself with loved ones vs lawyers. I don’t know... maybe it’s kind of a big deal for a person to get nominatedto the SC; their family is proud of & supports them; because there still ARE families who support each other for life’s good and bad moments.

Lying under oath Is such a great example for your children.

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The man was not truthful. He lied.
 
Lying under oath Is such a great example for your children.

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The man was not truthful. He lied.

How do you know? Where you at the party Ford alleged this to have happened? Or was it one of Swetnick’s alleged gang bang parties? Or did you go to Yale with him and saw him do what Ramirez alleges?

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You think you do, but you don’t. And neither do I. And until there is evidence or corroboration ... the man (or anyone else in his position) is to be presumed innocent. THAT is how the law works in this country, contrary to what SJWs think.
 
How do you know? Where you at the party Ford alleged this to have happened? Or was it one of Swetnick’s alleged gang bang parties? Or did you go to Yale with him and saw him do what Ramirez alleges?

You
Don’t
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You think you do, but you don’t. And neither do I. And until there is evidence or corroboration ... the man (or anyone else in his position) is to be presumed innocent. THAT is how the law works in this country, contrary to what SJWs think.

We know about all the other lies.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-lies_us_5bb26190e4b027da00d61fcd

edited to add an excerpt:

“My friends and I sometimes got together and had parties on weekends,” Kavanaugh testified. “The drinking age was 18 in Maryland for most of my time in high school, and was 18 in D.C. for all of my time in high school.”

The legal drinking age was raised to 21 in Maryland when Kavanaugh was 17 years old in 1982, which is when Blasey’s alleged assault took place.

Not only is Kavanaugh wrong about the drinking age when he was in high school; he wasn’t even 18 years old (the incorrect drinking age he claims) when he recorded his own beer drinking on his calendar at the time.
 
Have you come to grips with the lies Ford has told as well, or do you just want to join Prof. Fair in "castrating men and feeding them to swine"?

RB the_mother_thing, you just said in your previous post that WE DON'T KNOW and neither do you if Kavanaugh lied under oath. We actually do. He lied. Try to stick to the subject. By the way RB, Dr. Ford is not being considered for the position of Supreme Court Justice.
 
How do you know? Where you at the party Ford alleged this to have happened? Or was it one of Swetnick’s alleged gang bang parties? Or did you go to Yale with him and saw him do what Ramirez alleges?

You
Don’t
Know


You think you do, but you don’t. And neither do I. And until there is evidence or corroboration ... the man (or anyone else in his position) is to be presumed innocent. THAT is how the law works in this country, contrary to what SJWs think.

His college roommate and many classmates came forward about what an obnoxious belligerent drunk he was. Far cry from the choir boy he claimed to be. If you lie about the small things you will lie about the big things. We all witnessed him not answer questions last Thursday. He is not a truthful person.
 
@mrs-b I would welcome a discussion on this subject if you would like to start a thread. I don't think this thread is the place for it.

Look, I won't if you don't mind, Red. This sort of shit show isn't my cup of tea. Although I tell you what - I'd rather discuss economic theory all day long than get into the hyperbole and rhetoric that's going on around this.

When I saw that chick from Fox tweeting that Ford should be locked up, I could have wept.
 
RB the_mother_thing, you just said in your previous post that WE DON'T KNOW and neither do you if Kavanaugh lied under oath. We actually do. He lied. Try to stick to the subject. By the way RB, Dr. Ford is not being considered for the position of Supreme Court Justice.

If you’re going to link to allegations of lies Kav uttered, and you’re actually a fair-minded person, you also should be considering the allegations of lies Ford has told, that she herself contradicted in her own testimony. For starters: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/the_three_lies_of_christine_blasey_ford.html
 
Look, I won't if you don't mind, Red. This sort of shit show isn't my cup of tea. Although I tell you what - I'd rather discuss economic theory all day long than get into the hyperbole and rhetoric that's going on around this.

When I saw that chick from Fox tweeting that Ford should be locked up, I could have wept.
Ok. Understand totally. Maybe another time because I do have plenty of thoughts on the subject which has nothing to do with this shitshow. But this wasn't really the place.

While I hear you about the tweet (though I didn't see that one) I am equally disgusted by the tweet from Prof. Fair at Georgetown because that kind of rhetoric does not belong in the public square. The thought that she teaches at a university is horrific.
 
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Are you aware there is also a Go Fund Me set up for Brett Kavanaugh? It’s up to over $557,000.
I posted because of the post before mine so yes I am.
 
Are you fair-minded? Are you considering Kavanaugh's lies? Does your RB supervisor allow you to do that?

Yes, I’m fair-minded. That’s why I don’t just “believe all women” simply because we have vaginas.

What/who is an ‘RB Supervisor’? Regardless, unlike others, I don’t need to first verify or run my positions by/through anyone or some ‘movement’ for validation or to make sure it’s okay to independently form opinions and think for myself. I am not a card-carrying member of any bandwagon.
 
Yes, I’m fair-minded. That’s why I don’t just “believe all women” simply because we have vaginas.

What/who is an ‘RB Supervisor’? Regardless, unlike others, I don’t need to first verify or run my positions by/through anyone or some ‘movement’ for validation or to make sure it’s okay to independently form opinions and think for myself. I am not a card-carrying member of any bandwagon.


Are you sure about that last sentence?
 
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