Well, Now Brett Kavanaugh Can Face His Accuser

[Tekate]

I had a horrible fear of flying but I did it. Don't now because I am old enough to not really worry about death, she said she has claustrophobia. I don't think she lied about this it's inevitable unless we are Aretha we have to fly.

is she a psychologis? yes she is.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/christine-blasey-ford-psychologist/
(a Yiannopoulos lie btw.. he's such a jerk)

I dunno, the door? she says what she says.. I think she had reasons for a door in her mind, and one was safety.. she now uses her master bedroom to house google interns so maybe in counseling she was able to understand and overcome her fear of not being able to escape. I don't think we can say she was blacked out drunk when she got the door and remembers the door.. but she has to contend with the picking and nitpicking just like Kav does, that's the nature of politics.

If you’re going to link to allegations of lies Kav uttered, and you’re actually a fair-minded person, you also should be considering the allegations of lies Ford has told, that she herself contradicted in her own testimony. For starters: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/10/the_three_lies_of_christine_blasey_ford.html

 

[soxfan]

I am terrified of flying. I have to take valium AND drink. But I do it because I'm not going to let my kids miss out on traveling.

So yeah, that whole thing is a crock. Millions of people are terrified to fly but they do it anyway. She's telling the truth. How do I know? Because I LIVE it!!!!

 

[ame]

It is AMAZING how much overtime people are putting in to try to discredit her. Anyone that's been assaulted can vividly remember specific details, and anyone that studies trauma can confirm that often other things get buried or forgotten. There are millions of victims who will NEVER come forward, if no other reason than they don't want to deal with everyone protecting their attacker instead of trusting them.

Regarding the fear of flying: For weeks before a flight, I cannot relax, because my anxiety just skyrockets. I pack many weeks ahead of the trip, in an attempt to calm that, but it never works. Day of, I am a trainwreck on a plane, besides spontaneous barfing, I am using shaking from panic and constantly trying to calm myself down, every bump sends my brain into a total spiral. But since flying it the best way to get to more distant locations, what other choice is there but to tolerate it.

 

[House Cat]

Oh, I see...

I am supposed to keep a journal of every home improvement project that I ever have done to my home in order to appear credible in court!

That’s the secret on how more women can prove they’ve been raped!!

Who knew?

 

[cmd2014]

FWIW, those "lies" aren't lies at all. The psychologist one is a f*cking joke. "Research psychologist" IS EXACTLY the correct term to use for her position. She never claimed she was a licensed clinical psychologist. The other two are just pathetic and desperate. Both dumb talking points that have been discredited.

Exactly. In addition, she is working in what’s known as an exempt institution. That means that by law she can use the title of “research psychologist” (which is exactly the correct term for her position as lovedogs has pointed out) without being in violation of any state or provincial psychologist act. In fact all school psychologists, prison psychologists, university professors, and some hospital based psychologists (particularly in the VA system) fall under the same exemptions. You’ll note that The California State Board of Psychology (the regulatory body that has the legal power to enforce infractions of the law in this regard) has not taken any steps. The reason for this is that she is not, in fact, in breach of the law in this regard.

Plus, that article which was linked to was clearly not written by any kind of reputable journalist. I spent some time looking at the other articles this person had also written and it was all screaming conspiracy stuff, not fact based, well researched, balanced journalism. It is not even close to being equal to the quality of information being brought to light by reputable sources. That anyone would equate them is probably an indictment of the US educational system.

 

[partgypsy]

I heard that the FBI probe was extremely limited, like not even fact checking what people are saying about his drinking habits. What a joke.

 

[redwood66]

So you think a person who is making a bad choice for their health, or future is something I should think that is their prerogative to be dumb? No, I believe education in all aspects of life is a good thing. Obviously low information voters voted for Trump, but that does not mean it was GOOD for them. To me this is akin to knowing that certain airbags pop out and should be replaced and people don't replace them, how stupid is that? it's free. If you are seeing people have a right to be uneducated and dumb, okay I suppose but I care, and I hate to see people hoodwinked like Trump has done.

Of course it's everyone's prerogative to be and do whatever they choose within the confines of the law. Even you. And you can have all the opinions you like. But if you think that people should not react to being called stupid because you know what's good for them and you only have their best interests at heart, then don't be surprised when they tell you to shove it. What someone else does is none of your business. I wish more people would realize that. In this instance we are talking about voting, not health issues.

 

[cmd2014]

Of course it's everyone's prerogative to be and do whatever they choose within the confines of the law. Even you. And you can have all the opinions you like. But if you think that people should not react to being called stupid because you know what's good for them and you only have their best interests at heart, then don't be surprised when they tell you to shove it. What someone else does is none of your business. I wish more people would realize that. In this instance we are talking about voting, not health issues.

I think the caveat to that is if what someone else does is directly affecting you. Electing a president affects everyone, and would therefore legitimately be the business of those it affects. Kind of like it becomes society’s business when people engage in behaviour that is harmful to the general public and is therefore determined to be against the law. So it becomes everybody’s business if people aren’t vaccinating their children and herd immunity is rendered ineffective, or if people are polluting common water sources, or if people are exposing others to second hand smoke, or driving drunk, or doing any number of things that would be reasonably be seen to negatively affect other people. Or putting someone unfit to serve into a lifetime appointment job position that will affect millions of people’s lives...

 

[redwood66]

I think the caveat to that is if what someone else does is directly affecting you. Electing a president affects everyone, and would therefore legitimately be the business of those it affects. Kind of like it becomes society’s business when people engage in behaviour that is harmful to the general public and is therefore determined to be against the law. So it becomes everybody’s business if people aren’t vaccinating their children and herd immunity is rendered ineffective, or if people are polluting common water sources, or if people are exposing others to second hand smoke, or driving drunk, or doing any number of things that would be reasonably be seen to negatively affect other people. Or putting someone unfit to serve into a lifetime appointment job position that will affect millions of people’s lives...

All of this can be said by anyone with the opposing opinion. One can come up with a multitude of reasons to justify their choice.

Immunizations, smoking, etc. are different situations that I happen to agree with you but that's not what we're talking about here.

 

[redwood66]

What is frightening to me is the amount of people willing to cede their decisions to the government or other entity because it's what they think is best for everyone. Where does that stop? Eventually it ends with the loss of property rights.

 

[the_mother_thing]

It’s ironic how those beating their chests while on the “stay out of my uterus/life choices” pulpit seem hell bent on telling others how to think/feel/vote about issues they feel are personally important to them and for which they have deeply held beliefs.

 

[House Cat]

Of course it's everyone's prerogative to be and do whatever they choose within the confines of the law. Even you. And you can have all the opinions you like. But if you think that people should not react to being called stupid because you know what's good for them and you only have their best interests at heart, then don't be surprised when they tell you to shove it. What someone else does is none of your business. I wish more people would realize that. In this instance we are talking about voting, not health issues.

If a person chooses to be stupid within the limits of the law that is their right. It is my belief that they need to own their stupidity. They can’t choose to be stupid and also be insulted when called stupid.

 

[redwood66]

If a person chooses to be stupid within the limits of the law that is their right. It is my belief that they need to own their stupidity. They can’t choose to be stupid and also be insulted when called stupid.

And this is the stance I would like all Dems to take. Please do it. And shout it from the rooftops.

 

[Tekate]

So if I tell my sons what is good for them and have THEIR best interests at heart and they tell me to shove it, I tell them they are stupid, of course we are past that as they are 30 and 26, but I've never known anyone to not take heed and listen when someone says "hey this is not in your best interest". So if I tell them, in their best interest, and they tell me to shove it, I can easily say well then you must stupid. Its like saying we drive on the left here in England and I drive on the right because in my country we don't and you can shove it. Yes they have a right to disregard my well intentioned advice, but they vote and they are not voting in my best interest. In this instance we are talking about a person's tax rate. I'm for minding my own business if one doesn't infringe on my beliefs, tax rate, etc. So if dumb conservatives vote not their own interests it affects me, if they voted in their own interests that would be a positive affect for me.

Of course it's everyone's prerogative to be and do whatever they choose within the confines of the law. Even you. And you can have all the opinions you like. But if you think that people should not react to being called stupid because you know what's good for them and you only have their best interests at heart, then don't be surprised when they tell you to shove it. What someone else does is none of your business. I wish more people would realize that. In this instance we are talking about voting, not health issues.

 

[Tekate]

I've never called a person stupid to their face, they will never own their own stupidity HC because they don't know they are being stupid because they don't read, or do critical thinking. What Red is saying is it's their right to be stupid, well no it isn't, we have a great school system in this country and it's time everyone took advantage of it. We have to take a drivers test to drive, we have to get a marriage license, we need a license to hunt or fish, we should have a license to vote.

HC I don't know of any limits of the law about people who choose to be stupid, do you really think people choose to be stupid? there are intellectually changed people and I don't know what the law is, but I assume they can vote.

If a person chooses to be stupid within the limits of the law that is their right. It is my belief that they need to own their stupidity. They can’t choose to be stupid and also be insulted when called stupid.

 

[the_mother_thing]

... we should have a license to vote.

Wouldn’t that just disenfranchise voters, kinda like requiring them to have an ID supposedly would? Or do you only care if it impacts Democrat voters?

 

[Tekate]

I find it just as ironic that people beating their chests about the 'sanctity of life' and 'mind your own business', yet stand on their pulpit and scream at those who choose another way of thinking, post horrible pictures etc, and they want to take a law away from those people, I find it also ironic that said people think 'everyone can do it themselves' and 'pull yourself up by your boostraps' when they themselves would be the first to ask for aid if there is a national disaster. You either can't or don't see that the other side forces my side with THEIR choices on my uterus/life choices. So basically you are saying I'm right and you are wrong. Doesn't work that way.

It’s ironic how those beating their chests while on the “stay out of my uterus/life choices” pulpit seem hell bent on telling others how to think/feel/vote about issues they feel are personally important to them and for which they have deeply held beliefs.

 

[Tekate]

What is frightening to me is the amount of people who don't read the governments decisions or other entities and they don't think of what is best for everyone, only themselves, never think of what's best for the community.

What is frightening to me is the amount of people willing to cede their decisions to the government or other entity because it's what they think is best for everyone. Where does that stop? Eventually it ends with the loss of property rights.

 

[the_mother_thing]

So basically you are saying I'm right and you are wrong. Doesn't work that way.

Ditto & backatcha.

 

[Tekate]

Why? they go down to register to vote and take a test, if they want to drive they have to, if they can't get to a place to register then someone should come to them. I don't see it disenfranchising anyone, unless they are stupid.

Wouldn’t that just disenfranchise voters, kinda like requiring them to have an ID supposedly would? Or do you only care if it impacts Democrat voters?

 

[Tekate]

So it takes us right back to the community vs individual rights. So why pay car insurance? why pay house insurance? back atcha.

Ditto & backatcha.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Why? they go down to register to vote and take a test, if they want to drive they have to, if they can't get to a place to register then someone should come to them. I don't see it disenfranchising anyone, unless they are stupid.

FTR - I don’t disagree! I would LOVE to see a test (along with mandatory ID) before someone can vote. But the mantra by the left is that requiring someone to get an ID to vote somehow disenfranchises them, yet it doesn’t seem to stop these same ‘voters’ from buying beer & cigs, flying, etc. So you must imagine my surprise that you’d go even further than many conservatives’ stance of just simply requiring an ID to do it.

 

[the_mother_thing]

So it takes us right back to the community vs individual rights. So why pay car insurance? why pay house insurance? back atcha.

I accept & pay car insurance as part of the privilege of driving. I accept & pay homeowners insurance as part of the privilege of owning a home. No one else pays my car or homeowners insurance. And I do both gladly to 1) demonstrate my individual responsibility to other drivers; and, 2) to mitigate the very real risk that sometimes bad things happen that are beyond my control - sometimes by people who aren’t responsible and don’t pay attention or (as I’ve personally experienced twice now) are illegal immigrants who drive without a license and/or insurance as well as a lack of understanding the rules of the road resulting - in both instances - in a head-on collision with two of my vehicles.

So yea, I’m good with shoring up the risks associated with my enjoyment of the privileges that I choose to partake in. If others choose to partake in drugs, sex, or whatever their activity du jour is, they should also be accountable and responsible for shoring up their risks as well - NOT me.

 

[redwood66]

Why? they go down to register to vote and take a test, if they want to drive they have to, if they can't get to a place to register then someone should come to them. I don't see it disenfranchising anyone, unless they are stupid.

FTR - I don’t disagree! I would LOVE to see a test (along with mandatory ID) before someone can vote. But the mantra by the left is that requiring someone to get an ID to vote somehow disenfranchises them, yet it doesn’t seem to stop these same ‘voters’ from buying beer & cigs, flying, etc. So you must imagine my surprise that you’d go even further than many conservatives’ stance of just simply requiring an ID to do it.

I am going to disagree with both of you on this test thing. While I want people to be involved and knowledgeable of the issues when voting, I do not want their right hindered in any way to have a say in the government that affects their lives. Now it is a requirement that someone be a US citizen to vote so voter ID laws should be in place. JMHO.

 

[lovedogs]

I am going to disagree with both of you on this test thing. While I want people to be involved and knowledgeable of the issues when voting, I do not want their right hindered in any way to have a say in the government that affects their lives. Now it is a requirement that someone be a US citizen to vote so voter ID laws should be in place. JMHO.

Red and I agree on something???
But yes, I also don't think there supld be any barriers to voting in the us. If you live in this country, you should have a say in what happens here. That also brings up the (imho) disenfranchisement of people who have done jail time and cannot vote, which I also disagree with.

 

[the_mother_thing]

I am going to disagree with both of you on this test thing. While I want people to be involved and knowledgeable of the issues when voting, I do not want their right hindered in any way to have a say in the government that affects their lives. Now it is a requirement that someone be a US citizen to vote so voter ID laws should be in place. JMHO.

I’ll admit, my agreement with the ‘test’ was more tongue in cheek. But I will also confess, hearing the rationale some choose to share for how they vote, it’s scary and makes me interested in entertaining the idea ... ETA: for legal citizens of this country. “Being here” illegally does not equate IMO to someone having the right to vote.

 

[Calliecake]

I find it just as ironic that people beating their chests about the 'sanctity of life' and 'mind your own business', yet stand on their pulpit and scream at those who choose another way of thinking, post horrible pictures etc, and they want to take a law away from those people, I find it also ironic that said people think 'everyone can do it themselves' and 'pull yourself up by your boostraps' when they themselves would be the first to ask for aid if there is a national disaster. You either can't or don't see that the other side forces my side with THEIR choices on my uterus/life choices. So basically you are saying I'm right and you are wrong. Doesn't work that way.

What is frightening to me is the amount of people who don't read the governments decisions or other entities and they don't think of what is best for everyone, only themselves, never think of what's best for the community.

THIS +1000
Thank you @Tekate

 

[redwood66]

I’ll admit, my agreement with the ‘test’ was more tongue in cheek. But I will also confess, hearing the rationale some choose to share for how they vote, it’s scary and makes me interested in entertaining the idea ... ETA: for legal citizens of this country.

I realize that but you are using very argument that people are making here. It's not right or wise for anyone to make it. I know you know that though.

 

[Matata]

I’ll admit, my agreement with the ‘test’ was more tongue in cheek. But I will also confess, hearing the rationale some choose to share for how they vote, it’s scary and makes me interested in entertaining the idea ... ETA: for legal citizens of this country.

I think it should be a federal offense if people don't vote in federal elections and should have to pay a fine or do short jail term if they don't vote in local/state elections and any citizen who does not vote should also be ineligible (until the next election) for any type of local/state/federal public assistance (and that's on top of taking a test).

 

[the_mother_thing]

I realize that but you are using very argument that people are making here. It's not right or wise for anyone to make it. I know you know that though.

But Red ... I’m just thinking about the best interests of my community.