What about Condoleeza?

[strmrdr]

Still haven''t answer the question what will an international court do other than saying bad bad bad?

 

[klewis]

Sorry - I haven''t answered your question. And you''re right in the hypothetical KorAa invades another country scenario- not much.
Now if you have the might to do as you wish and dispense your own "justice" like america and China and others, you may not have a use for international law and international courts, although America does cite international laws when it suits and does seek rulings from an international court - when it suits, and given that, isn''t it reasonable to expect it to be accountable to them also?

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:18:01 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 12/31/2008 8:59:31 PM

Author: klewis

Great, you said it... kind of. No one elses business but the involved parties and their allies. Should America then ever use an international court to pursue justice?

No. If you go asking this again, you''ll hear crickets....

Would you explain what that means?

 

[AGBF]

Hi, everyone! It is still 2008 here in Connecticut, USA. I have been under the weather with a stomach bug (gastro-intestinal virus) my father passed along to me. I don't have the wit or the strength to participate as I want to in this discussion, but perhaps I will in 2009! Happy New Year to all of you, even those of you who do not have the inestimable privilege of being Americans (like you, klewis, aka, "my dear young man" ).


Deb

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:18:22 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 12/31/2008 8:59:31 PM

Author: klewis

Great, you said it... kind of. No one elses business but the involved parties and their allies. Should America then ever use an international court to pursue justice?

superior firepower works much better

Well why didn''t you say ages ago instead of pretending to debate it intelligently. How shameful - it made me think of the last verse of the song My Country ''Tis of Thy People Your Dying.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:44:48 PM
Author: klewis


Well why didn't you say ages ago instead of pretending to debate it intelligently. How shameful - it made me think of the last verse of the song My Country 'Tis of Thy People Your Dying.

Buffy Sainte-Marie!


Deb

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:44:48 PM
Author: klewis



Well why didn't you say ages ago instead of pretending to debate it intelligently.

Well you were not getting logic so I figured you might understand a picture.
Very simple, international courts are a joke, useless and powerless and have no authority over anyone in the US.

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:47:36 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 12/31/2008 9:44:48 PM

Author: klewis



Well why didn''t you say ages ago instead of pretending to debate it intelligently. How shameful - it made me think of the last verse of the song My Country ''Tis of Thy People Your Dying.

Buffy Sainte-Marie!

Yes.
I hope you recover from the bug and Happy New Year - it''s 3.50 pm 2009 already.. Please know I am not anti American.



Deb

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:51:09 PM
Author: klewis
Please know I am not anti American.

ha your words sure don't show that.
They show that you are very much so anti-USA

 

[AGBF]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:51:09 PM
Author: klewis


Please know I am not anti American.

I am glad that you reassured me on that head, klewis. I was thinking of revoking your privileges to post here. Oh, wait! I have no power here...and this site is based in Canada, too. Never mind.


Hugs,
Deb

PS-Hugs to you, too, Storm. I see you''re still up!

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:54:48 PM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 12/31/2008 9:51:09 PM

Author: klewis

Please know I am not anti American.

ha your words sure don''t show that.

They show that you are very much so anti-USA

I''m critical of US foreign policy which has rather run amok recently and has changed the world, mine included, but I''m not anti-American. I try to argue my point here in a reasoned way. Surely it''s not a question of "you''re either with us or you''re against us" it''s about debate.

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/31/2008 10:02:24 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 12/31/2008 9:51:09 PM

Author: klewis



Please know I am not anti American.

I am glad that you reassured me on that head, klewis. I was thinking of revoking your privileges to post here. Oh, wait! I have no power here...and this site is based in Canada, too. Never mind.



Hugs,

Deb

PS-Hugs to you, too, Storm. I see you''re still up!

Why would you want to revoke my rights to post?

 

[elle_chris]

Date: 12/31/2008 9:19:50 PM
Author: strmrdr
Still haven't answer the question what will an international court do other than saying bad bad bad?

I'll answer ya Karl. And this is one of my favorite, and I think truest quotes about anything and everything the UN does. Or better yet, doesn't do.

"The observers had a logbook recording the assaults, bombings, and artillery attacks on the area. Each page was ruled in vertical columns: DATE, TIME, LOCATION, DAMAGE, CASUALTIES. The columns headed ACTION TAKEN BY THE UN were completely empty." (big surprise eh)

From P.J. O'Rourkes All the Trouble in the world when Bihac, Bosnia were under fire from the Serbs.

And on that note, Happy New Years all.

 

[klewis]

Date: 12/31/2008 10:47:06 PM
Author: elle_chris

Date: 12/31/2008 9:19:50 PM

Author: strmrdr

Still haven''t answer the question what will an international court do other than saying bad bad bad?

I''ll answer ya Karl. And this is one of my favorite, and I think truest quotes about anything and everything the UN does. Or better yet, doesn''t do.


''The observers had a logbook recording the assaults, bombings, and artillery attacks on the area. Each page was ruled in vertical columns: DATE, TIME, LOCATION, DAMAGE, CASUALTIES. The columns headed ACTION TAKEN BY THE UN were completely empty.'' (big surprise eh)


From P.J. O''Rourkes All the Trouble in the world when Bihac, Bosnia were under fire from the Serbs.


And on that note, Happy New Years all.

So let''s abandon it the idea? Why not, after all they wouldn''t sanction the Iraq invasion.

But he''s good for a quote is ol'' O''rourke - here''s another one of his.

"President Bush said that if illegal immigrants want citizenship they''d have to do three things: pay taxes, hold meaningful jobs, and learn English. Bush doesn''t meet those qualifications."

 

[AGBF]

Date: 12/31/2008 10:20:56 PM
Author: klewis


Why would you want to revoke my rights to post?

Before going to bed last night, I started to write out an elaborate answer to you. Then Old Yeller died, and all bets were off. Since I was physically uncomfortable (that stomach bug) and I had told my daughter (who is 16, not an infant) that the movie is a tearjerker, I was very unhappy at being pulled away from the computer to put her back together again! (The background is that we went to see the movie, "Marley and Me" with friends yesterday and it upset us both because it reminded us so much of our own very bad yellow Lab, Biscuit, whom I had to euthanize in January of 2008. For some crazy reason, my daughter''s reaction to this trauma was to want to watch other dog movies so she rented, "Old Yeller"! It was a bad move. At least for me.) But I digress.

I might want to revoke your right to post in order to silence you, silly! For your (perceived) anti-Americanism!


Deborah

 

[klewis]

It sounds like you had a rough New Years eve Deborah.
I too had to euthanize my dog last year. I didn''t plan to have a dog in the first place but it happened that I was in the wrong place at the right time - or something like that. I just happened to be around when an elderly woman had a heart attack. She had her dog with her and just as she was being taken away in an ambulance I reassured her not to worry about her dog. The poor lady never survived her heart attack and her family didn''t want her dog so that''s how Zoe came to live with us and our lives changed for the better in her company. We had 8 fantastic years with her but in March last year we had to euthanize her. We''ve digressed together.

 

[klewis]

It sounds like you had a rough New Years eve Deborah.
I too had to euthanize my dog last year. I didn''t plan to have a dog in the first place but it happened that I was in the wrong place at the right time - or something like that. I just happened to be around when an elderly woman had a heart attack. She had her dog with her and just as she was being taken away in an ambulance I reassured her not to worry about her dog. The poor lady never survived her heart attack and her family didn''t want her dog so that''s how Zoe came to live with us and our lives changed for the better in her company. We had 8 fantastic years with her but in March last year we had to euthanize her. We''ve digressed together.

 

[HollyS]

Well. Finally. Someone else besides me is tired of your diatribe -- oops, ''dialogue''.

 

[klewis]

Date: 1/1/2009 2:39:25 PM
Author: HollyS
Well. Finally. Someone else besides me is tired of your diatribe -- oops, ''dialogue''.

Hollys! welcome M''dear ol'' lady. Did you make any New Years resolutions?

 

[AGBF]

I hope that this photograph comes out large enough to see. I do not have any software to resize photos on this computer! This is a picture of my daughter and Biscuit taken about eight years ago when Biscuit was in his prime (around three or four years old) and my daughter was around eight years old. We adopted Biscuit, just as you adopted your dog...although under different circumstances. We were actually looking for a dog. We just were not looking for a dog like Biscuit, who turned out to be a punishment for which no crime had yet been invented . He made Marley (of "Marley and Me") look calm! At least Marley didn''t bite any joggers on the throat!

Deborah

 

[klewis]

That''s a lovely photo Deborah. What was the outcome of the jogger attack? I haven''t seen Marley and Me, I''m not even sure it''s available here but I have seen the book around. This is Zoe. I live right on the bank of a large river, it''s just meters from my home, so Zoe came to live in dog heaven when she moved in.

Anyway, I thought you had gone off to dig out the sheet music of The Last Post - I''m pleased you haven''t....(yet?)

 

[AGBF]

Date: 1/1/2009 6:50:52 PM
Author: klewis

Anyway, I thought you had gone off to dig out the sheet music of The Last Post - I'm pleased you haven't....(yet?)

Zoe is adorable. I am glad that she got to live where she could swim . I do not understand your allusion to the sheet music, however. (Nor did I understand Lisa's allusion to the crickets, one with which you also had difficulty.) Please explain. I am sorry to be so concrete. Let's blame it on my stomach bug, even though it is probably just that I am slow witted, OK?

We were very, very lucky with the jogger attack. Biscuit really liked people, although he thought it was his duty to guard our front door...and, it seems, the street. He apparently got loose when no one knew he had ever been loose. Since he was licensed, when a female jogger reported that she had been bitten on our street, the police came to our home. The dog was home with me and I would have sworn he had never been out!

To make a long story short, we think he got loose earlier when my husband was pulling ivy off the house and we never knew it. We think that during that time he ran in the street; leapt up at the jogger; and nipped her throat! She wanted to be sure that the dog had been vaccinated against rabies because the skin was broken. It was barely broken, however. It was hardly a scratch. It would only have been a danger if the scratch had been made by a sick animal or a rusty nail or something. There was no bleeding.

We were profoudly grateful to her. We delivered a huge bouquet of flowers. Our dog was quarantined under the law, which cost us $500.00. The police were involved. It was very, very serious. We could have been sued for everything we owned.... And yet the darned dog was happy to see the woman he had bitten earlier when she came to identify him!!!! She was traumatized because he was HUGE and muscular with a HUGE muzzle and teeth like a SHARK's. She was a big (although not fat) woman, and he had to leap HIGH to reach her throat, but she was shaking all over. But she said, "I love dogs; I just wanted to be sure he didn't have rabies!"

As I said, I did not want to be represented in society by that dog!!!! He did not embody my ideas of good citizenship!!! The entire time that we owned him, we tried to protect the world from him!!!!




Deb

 

[klewis]

I might want to revoke your right to post in order to silence you, silly! For your (perceived) anti-Americanism!



Deborah

[/quote]


I thought you might played it.

As for the crickets - I wondered about that - maybe it''s what you hear if you get a smack around the ears?

 

[Kaleigh]

Crickets is what you hear when no one has anything to say back...


Or if you will someone tells a joke, it falls flat. No one laughs, the person telling the joke hears crickets... Does that help?

 

[klewis]

Oohhhhhh I see now. Thanks Kaleigh - That''s better than a smack in ears.