What is your net age?

[strmrdr]

What is your net age?

 

[gwendolyn]

Nothing between ''teenager'' and ''middle aged?'' Woe is me!

I''d be middle aged on there, I guess.

 

[Maisie]

I''m a teenager apparently. lol!

 

[strmrdr]

I''m open too more options to add too the next poll!
But it has too align with the different phases the Internet went thru.
between teen and middle-age would be commercialisation of the Internet.
so..
20 something: advertising is the Internet!

 

[isaku5]

Somewhere between "teenager" and "middle age" as far as computers go. I have no idea what an irc is so definitely don''t know how to use it.

 

[Hera]

I''m somewhere between teenager and middle age too.

 

[canuk-gal]

HI:

Just outside my teenage years

......................and I can prove it..................

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/happy-22nd-birthday-canuck-gal.73171/

cheers--Sharon

 

[baby monster]

IRC? LOL. Does anyone use that anymore? I''ve been online since AOL v1.2.

 

[AGBF]

Gosh, I used to use IRC once...but I am sure I couldn''t do so now! I don''t even remember how to set up my newsgroup settings to read USENET groups and that used to be what I lived and breathed . A shell account? Sounds like something someone would set up to protect his identity. Am I close? I use to use an anonymizer called the nymserver. (No shell account, whatever that was or is.)

Deborah

 

[snlee]

IRC? What? I guess I''m a teenager!

 

[PrettyBlues]

Is IRC even around anymore? I had completely forgotten about it! Guess that gives my age away

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 4/30/2008 7:49:49 PM
Author: snlee
IRC? What? I guess I'm a teenager!

That is what I am guessing I am but honestly I am no teenager. I probably would fit into the 26-35 age range for computer stuff. I am not as techie as those teenagers though.

What is your net age Storm? hehe


Sharon, love the link. hehe

 

[miraclesrule]

Hands up for the tweeners. I really miss chat rooms and my Pirch.

 

[Selkie]

Yeah, I''d stick "AOL is the internet" in there in the middle between IRC and Facebook, etc. Thank god that era is over...

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 4/30/2008 10:54:50 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 4/30/2008 7:49:49 PM
Author: snlee
IRC? What? I guess I''m a teenager!

That is what I am guessing I am but honestly I am no teenager. I probably would fit into the 26-35 age range for computer stuff. I am not as techie as those teenagers though.

What is your net age Storm? hehe


Sharon, love the link. hehe

old old timer.
I started out on gnn as far as the net goes but was doing BBS before that.
14.4 dial up was fun!

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 4/30/2008 7:47:55 PM
Author: AGBF



Gosh, I used to use IRC once...but I am sure I couldn''t do so now! I don''t even remember how to set up my newsgroup settings to read USENET groups and that used to be what I lived and breathed . A shell account? Sounds like something someone would set up to protect his identity. Am I close? I use to use an anonymizer called the nymserver. (No shell account, whatever that was or is.)

Deborah

sort of, shell accounts let you run software on a remote computer.
The predecessor too the Internet linked researchers too mainframe computers that may have been on the other side of the country so they could run software on the mainframe in a shell account.
During the dial-up era they were mostly used to run eggdrop and darkbot bots and too run a private ircd among other things.
They were not very useful for protecting ones identity because the servers often ran finger which would give you the persons real name.
I still use USENET from time too time.
When you get right down too it PS and similar sites are usenet with a different front end and less trolls using different technology too deliver the content.

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 4/30/2008 11:15:43 PM
Author: Selkie
Yeah, I''d stick ''AOL is the internet'' in there in the middle between IRC and Facebook, etc. Thank god that era is over...

I didn''t want too give the true oldtimers nightmares!
I still recall the day when one of my fellow ircops glined *.aol.com and kicked 1/3 the users off the irc network which triggered a bug in the ircd and took the entire network down!
Then when the ircd auto-reset on the servers they went down again from too many attempted connections at one time!
It was during the worst time of day for an outage when there was upwards of 10k users on the servers.
fun times!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/30/2008 5:33:43 PM
Author: canuk-gal
HI:

Just outside my teenage years

......................and I can prove it..................

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/happy-22nd-birthday-canuck-gal.73171/

cheers--Sharon

x 10

 

[strmrdr]

Date: 5/1/2008 7:56:47 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/30/2008 5:33:43 PM
Author: canuk-gal
HI:

Just outside my teenage years

......................and I can prove it..................

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/happy-22nd-birthday-canuck-gal.73171/

cheers--Sharon

x 10

lol net age has nothing too do with real age.
There are 17 year old oldtimers and 70 year old toddlers.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 5/1/2008 8:15:27 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 5/1/2008 7:56:47 AM
Author: Ellen

x 10

lol net age has nothing too do with real age.
There are 17 year old oldtimers and 70 year old toddlers.

Yes, and then there''s this one real life middle aged chick that''s constantly trying to pass herself off as a young thang.

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 5/1/2008 8:29:29 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 5/1/2008 8:15:27 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 5/1/2008 7:56:47 AM
Author: Ellen

x 10

lol net age has nothing too do with real age.
There are 17 year old oldtimers and 70 year old toddlers.

Yes, and then there''s this one real life middle aged chick that''s constantly trying to pass herself off as a young thang.

HI:

I represent those remarks!

[:saint

Thanks Miss Skippy and Storm for the vote of confidence, nonetheless......

--sorry I am a bit bagged, as I just got home from an all nighter with Linday and Brittany...

cheers--Sharon

 

[Ellen]

Date: 5/1/2008 9:26:16 AM
Author: canuk-gal

Date: 5/1/2008 8:29:29 AM
Author: Ellen

Yes, and then there''s this one real life middle aged chick that''s constantly trying to pass herself off as a young thang.

HI:

I represent those remarks!

[:saint

Thanks Miss Skippy and Storm for the vote of confidence, nonetheless......

--sorry I am a bit bagged, as I just got home from an all nighter with Linday and Brittany...

cheers--Sharon

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 5/1/2008 5:26:14 AM
Author: strmrdr

Date: 4/30/2008 10:54:50 PM
Author: Skippy123

Date: 4/30/2008 7:49:49 PM
Author: snlee
IRC? What? I guess I''m a teenager!

That is what I am guessing I am but honestly I am no teenager. I probably would fit into the 26-35 age range for computer stuff. I am not as techie as those teenagers though.

What is your net age Storm? hehe


Sharon, love the link. hehe

old old timer.
I started out on gnn as far as the net goes but was doing BBS before that.
14.4 dial up was fun!

You aren''t that old Mister! You need to start a new thread. hehe My FIL talks about punch card w/the computer; I have no clue what he is talking about!

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 5/1/2008 9:40:56 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 5/1/2008 9:26:16 AM
Author: canuk-gal

Date: 5/1/2008 8:29:29 AM
Author: Ellen

Yes, and then there''s this one real life middle aged chick that''s constantly trying to pass herself off as a young thang.

HI:

I represent those remarks!

[:saint

Thanks Miss Skippy and Storm for the vote of confidence, nonetheless......

--sorry I am a bit bagged, as I just got home from an all nighter with Linday and Brittany...

cheers--Sharon

ditto!

 

[AGBF]

Date: 5/1/2008 3:37:40 PM

Author: Skippy123

You aren't that old Mister! You need to start a new thread. hehe My FIL talks about punch card w/the computer; I have no clue what he is talking about!

We are talking apples and oranges here. The first computers are one thing...the first networking of computers is another.

The late father of a close friend, Dr. Cuthbert Hurd, a mathematician, worked on the first computer ever made (by IBM). One can see computers similar to those early ones in movies like, "Desk Set" starring Katharine Hepburn and Spencer Tracey. They are large and spew out the ubiquitous punch cards that one was not supposed to fold, spindle, or mutilate.

Networking was something else. The idea of coming home from the office with a computer and putting your entire telephone handle into it in order to connect with something outside of the room was different from that big, self-contained computer. Somehow between the days of putting your phone into the computer and typing (there was no Windows) and the user-friendly Internet we now know a lot took place. Storm is talking about that period, not the early stand-alone computers .

Deborah

 

[perry]

Ancient...

You missed a group I belong to (and a lot of lingo). Shells were a very late - and modern - invention when I was involved.

I was on the net long before it was called the internet... When I first started; here in the Midwest the only things connected were some universities, some companies, and some government (usually military related) site in Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison, Chippewa Falls, and the Twin Cities. I believe there was less than 20 sites on the Midwest circuit (Chicago - Twin Cities); and it may have been as few as 10 when I first used the "net."

There was a link in Chicago that went east all the way to Washington DC - that required special codes to access. Washington DC had a circuit that went north to Boston, and another that went south to Florida. There was a circuit on the west coast (California to Los Alamos, New Mexico); but it was still isolated from the Midwest and the East coast.

These were really isolated circuits with little redundancy at the time.

Overall, I doubt there were more than 200 sites in the nation connected (or at least the list I saw with the site access codes to was less than 200 sites).

Here is one for you... Telnet; the original email program (which dates to 1969).

I used to recover, read, and send email on telnet. I used telnet even up to about 2000 to access email remotely when on the road as the current methods of long distance access did not exist. Guess what, telnet is still on your computer. Find the "run" button on any windows "start" screen - and type in "telnet" as the program. It is still there - and it still works (although I would have to dig up my telnet cheat sheet to be able to use it again).

Have a great day....

Perry

 

[perry]

Here is where I started - and the history:

Extracted From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET


- according to this history there were 213 total sites at about the time I was initially active on the "net" (in 1981).


ARPANET (growth section of article):


In March, 1970, the ARPANET reached the U.S. East Coast, when an IMP at BBN itself was joined up to the network. Thereafter, the network grew quickly: 9 IMPs by June of 1970, and 13 by December; 18 by September, 1971 (at which point twenty-three hosts, at universities and government research centers, were connected to the ARPANET); 29 by August, 1972, and 40 by September, 1973.

At that point, two satellite links, across the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans to Hawaii and Norway (NORSAR, see Norwegian Seismic Array) respectively, had been added to the network. From Norway, a terrestrial circuit added an IMP in London to the growing network.

By June 1974, there were 46 IMPs, and the network reached 57 in July, 1975. By 1981, the number of hosts had grown to 213, with a new host being added approximately every twenty days.

After the ARPANET had been up and running for several years, ARPA looked for another agency to hand off the network to; ARPA''s primary business was funding cutting-edge research and development, not running a communications utility. Eventually, in July 1975, the network was turned over to the Defense Communications Agency, also part of the Department of Defense.

In 1983, the U.S. military portion of the ARPANet was broken off as a separate network, the MILNET. Prior to this there were 113 nodes on the ARPANet. After the split, that number was 68 nodes with the remainder moving to MILNET.


Perry

 

[strmrdr]

kewl stuff Perry.
I still use telnet to troubleshoot smtp and pop3 servers.
I also use the more modern ssh for remote admin of my Linux boxes.

 

[perry]

Date: 5/3/2008 12:03:47 PM
Author: strmrdr
kewl stuff Perry.

I still use telnet to troubleshoot smtp and pop3 servers.

I also use the more modern ssh for remote admin of my Linux boxes.

And that is the reason telnet is still an active program. Very useful - especially when servers have trouble. It is probably the only original program still out there from the early days. It predates the current TCP/IP (which was developed in the very late 70''s and was made the standard in 1983).

Anyway, back to your questioniare. I''ve forgotten most of this stuff from back then. But I remember working on the ARPANET (and how it greatly improved research and communications), I remember MILNET splitting off (and had access to it for the first couple of years).

More important: I remember sitting on one of the node points and reading/watching all the traffic. That taught me my core lessons about internet security that persist to this day (there is no security unless you encrypt each packet).

I admit that from the late 1980''s to the early 1990''s I did very little on the net. It was not a consumer network then.

I do remember doing direct dialup to various computers in the mid 1980''s to mid 1990''s. The movie Wargames was based on this technology (which again predated the modern internet).

Direct dialup to computers still exist. There is a reason for that. Not fast, but inherently more secure than the internet.

Perry

 

[perry]

Date: 5/3/2008 12:03:47 PM
Author: strmrdr
kewl stuff Perry.

The original use of ARPANET - and how I first used it - allowed you to recover a data file from another computer on the net, or send a data file to another computer on the net.

In addition, you could send and receive text messages (email) to/from a specific computer on the network.

The communication about which sites existed, which data sets existed (and how to access them), and even who were the people to contact was originally exchanged by US mail (or in the case of sensitive information - via secure courier or secure conference attendance).

The next step was a common named file you could download that listed the available public data sets and researchers at a site (each site stored this information under the same filename and at the same location).

Shells; which allowed you to run your own program on an existing "large" data set on another computer came along later.

I did all my original ARPANET work pre-shell era. It was quite cool from a researcher perspective; but had no real value if you were not a researcher. Once I left college most of my work was done via direct dialup for companies I worked for. Up to the early 1990''s only a few of those companies had access to the net.

Truth be told. I got out of computers and programming because I was bored with it and did not want to sit behind a desk all day (although a lot of people thought I should have made it my career in the late 80''s).

I reentered the internet in a big way in the mid 1990''s; and no, I never ever considered having an AOL account.

Perry