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Date: 5/4/2008 11:08:42 AM
Author: AmberGretchen
I will be totally honest and say that I''ve never even owned a straightening iron, much less used one on my own hair. I also don''t own a curling iron or a blowdryer. I''ve been really lucky with my hair - its naturally a little bit wavy but mostly straight, and very thick but not at all coarse (each strand is very fine, there''s just a lot of them). So usually I wash it at night, pull it out of my face while I sleep, wake up in the morning and pull a brush through it and its presentable. Unfortunately, I''m (hopefully) getting my first real job within a year or so (I''m finishing up my PhD, hopefully, in that time), and I''ll really need to look professional and polished for both interviews and the (hopeful) job.
So what would you recommend for a novice for both products and styling tools? I was thinking the straightener would be easiest to make it look polished since my hair is closer to straight than anything else. My hair does get greasy if I put too much crap in it though, and I don''t want to have to spend very much time styling it if at all possible.
Lindsey, which model of the ghd do you have? I''m looking at Sephora, and I see a hot pink one that claims to do the straightening and curling. I''d like to be sure though, because I''m thinking of getting one for my daughter for her birthday. She has the Chi right now. She has fine wavy hair, which she straightens and curls, or just leaves natural since it''s not "bulky" like thick hair (mine!). Thanks!Date: 5/4/2008 12:24:28 PM
Author: *Lindsey*
Date: 5/4/2008 11:08:42 AM
Author: AmberGretchen
I will be totally honest and say that I''ve never even owned a straightening iron, much less used one on my own hair. I also don''t own a curling iron or a blowdryer. I''ve been really lucky with my hair - its naturally a little bit wavy but mostly straight, and very thick but not at all coarse (each strand is very fine, there''s just a lot of them). So usually I wash it at night, pull it out of my face while I sleep, wake up in the morning and pull a brush through it and its presentable. Unfortunately, I''m (hopefully) getting my first real job within a year or so (I''m finishing up my PhD, hopefully, in that time), and I''ll really need to look professional and polished for both interviews and the (hopeful) job.
So what would you recommend for a novice for both products and styling tools? I was thinking the straightener would be easiest to make it look polished since my hair is closer to straight than anything else. My hair does get greasy if I put too much crap in it though, and I don''t want to have to spend very much time styling it if at all possible.
For straightening, I think all of the flat irons have the same learning curve. I have owned a $30 Revlon straightener, a Hai, a pricey 2'' Farouk Chi, and now the ghd. For straightening, all of them work fine except the Revlon still left my hair frizzy. If your hair is naturally pretty straight/just wavy, any straightener will probably work just fine for you.
Now the ghd really is the mother of all straightening irons. I like that I have one tool to straighten my hair, make it curly, or give me those huge loose natural waves that made me jealous when I saw it on celebs, haha. This iron also gives me the smoothest results when straightening, as compared to my other irons. There is definitely a learning curve to make the curls, but I''ve found it extremely easy. If you watch the videos on youtube and the DVD that comes with the iron, you''re set. If you spend an afternoon just playing with different techniques on different pieces of hair, you''ll quickly learn it all.
As far as styling products, since your hair sounds naturally pretty well behaved and you''re just looking for maybe a bit more polish, I will recommend using a nice styling cream on your damp hair. I would recommend any of the Redken products like Align 12 or any others. I would also recommend Fekkai''s Glossing Cream because you can use it on damp hair for a more polished look after styling, and you can also use it on dry hair to add a bit of shine or tame flyaways. If you do choose to purchase any sort of heat styling product like a straightener, I would also recommend a thermal protection product, like Redken''s Smooth Down Heat Glide. Farouk Chi makes a very popular heat protector, and Biosilk is very popular as well.
Date: 5/4/2008 5:09:38 PM
Author: lyra
Lindsey, which model of the ghd do you have? I''m looking at Sephora, and I see a hot pink one that claims to do the straightening and curling. I''d like to be sure though, because I''m thinking of getting one for my daughter for her birthday. She has the Chi right now. She has fine wavy hair, which she straightens and curls, or just leaves natural since it''s not ''bulky'' like thick hair (mine!). Thanks!
Thanks Lindsey! I''ll look at Costco, although I don''t remember seeing anything like this before. I''m in Canada, could be different? At least I have a Sephora to go to just in case. I''ll look into the styling aids to, at Sephora. They have such great stuff there. I don''t really wear makeup, but having 2 daughters, well, I get to live vicariously.Date: 5/4/2008 5:17:55 PM
Author: *Lindsey*
Date: 5/4/2008 5:09:38 PM
Author: lyra
Lindsey, which model of the ghd do you have? I''m looking at Sephora, and I see a hot pink one that claims to do the straightening and curling. I''d like to be sure though, because I''m thinking of getting one for my daughter for her birthday. She has the Chi right now. She has fine wavy hair, which she straightens and curls, or just leaves natural since it''s not ''bulky'' like thick hair (mine!). Thanks!
Hey lyra, the ghd IV styler is the newest one that does the curls and waves the best. Right now it comes in pink and black from Sephora, and costs $240. If you happen to be a member of Costco, you can purchase the black IV styler for $189 -- a pretty substantial discount, plus it carries their lifetime warranty. If you''re not a Costco member, you can still buy it with a 5% extra fee -- still works out cheaper than Sephora -- but they don''t carry the pink color. I bought the black IV one from Costco.
Date: 5/4/2008 11:14:12 AM
Author: diamondfan
Sephora is the mother ship!!!
Clarins white tea daily SPF 40 screen for under makeup as well as Clinqiue''s City block in SPF 40 are nice daily sunscreens...
haha! NiceeeeeeeeeeeDate: 5/4/2008 9:42:35 AM
Author: Independent Gal
Dreamgirl I match my scent to my bling too! I wear Bulgari perfume.
Date: 5/4/2008 11:08:42 AM
Author: AmberGretchen
Date: 5/4/2008 10:04:22 AM
Author: Lorelei
Date: 5/4/2008 12:24:34 AM
Author: pennquaker09
I''m moving, but you can move to Jersey and we can shop in Paramus! Anyway, what kind of iron do you currently have? Chi and GHD are the two best, but as long as you have ceramic and a good product, you should be okay. Also, with the right iron, you can also curl your hair.
Yes, you can curl your hair with irons - good point! I use my GHD to curl and it works well. I find my forming my hair into curls and clamping it with the iron works better than twisting the iron through the hair, the curls stay in longer I find.
Penn - I''m not sure if I could handle Jersey
But it might be worth it to have a cool shopping buddy who really loved Sephora
Somehow I don''t see talking the DH into it - he really really loves the West Coast, and especially where we are now.![]()
I will be totally honest and say that I''ve never even owned a straightening iron, much less used one on my own hair. I also don''t own a curling iron or a blowdryer. I''ve been really lucky with my hair - its naturally a little bit wavy but mostly straight, and very thick but not at all coarse (each strand is very fine, there''s just a lot of them). So usually I wash it at night, pull it out of my face while I sleep, wake up in the morning and pull a brush through it and its presentable. Unfortunately, I''m (hopefully) getting my first real job within a year or so (I''m finishing up my PhD, hopefully, in that time), and I''ll really need to look professional and polished for both interviews and the (hopeful) job.
So what would you recommend for a novice for both products and styling tools? I was thinking the straightener would be easiest to make it look polished since my hair is closer to straight than anything else. My hair does get greasy if I put too much crap in it though, and I don''t want to have to spend very much time styling it if at all possible.
Date: 5/4/2008 7:06:40 PM
Author: lyra
Date: 5/4/2008 5:17:55 PM
Thanks Lindsey! I''ll look at Costco, although I don''t remember seeing anything like this before. I''m in Canada, could be different? At least I have a Sephora to go to just in case. I''ll look into the styling aids to, at Sephora. They have such great stuff there. I don''t really wear makeup, but having 2 daughters, well, I get to live vicariously.![]()
Hey lyra, the ghd is not carried in the Costco stores -- you can only purchase it from Costco''s website. Just do a search on their site for "ghd." Good luck!![]()
Date: 5/4/2008 12:24:28 PM
Author: *Lindsey*
Date: 5/4/2008 11:08:42 AM
Author: AmberGretchen
I will be totally honest and say that I''ve never even owned a straightening iron, much less used one on my own hair. I also don''t own a curling iron or a blowdryer. I''ve been really lucky with my hair - its naturally a little bit wavy but mostly straight, and very thick but not at all coarse (each strand is very fine, there''s just a lot of them). So usually I wash it at night, pull it out of my face while I sleep, wake up in the morning and pull a brush through it and its presentable. Unfortunately, I''m (hopefully) getting my first real job within a year or so (I''m finishing up my PhD, hopefully, in that time), and I''ll really need to look professional and polished for both interviews and the (hopeful) job.
So what would you recommend for a novice for both products and styling tools? I was thinking the straightener would be easiest to make it look polished since my hair is closer to straight than anything else. My hair does get greasy if I put too much crap in it though, and I don''t want to have to spend very much time styling it if at all possible.
For straightening, I think all of the flat irons have the same learning curve. I have owned a $30 Revlon straightener, a Hai, a pricey 2'' Farouk Chi, and now the ghd. For straightening, all of them work fine except the Revlon still left my hair frizzy. If your hair is naturally pretty straight/just wavy, any straightener will probably work just fine for you.
Now the ghd really is the mother of all straightening irons. I like that I have one tool to straighten my hair, make it curly, or give me those huge loose natural waves that made me jealous when I saw it on celebs, haha. This iron also gives me the smoothest results when straightening, as compared to my other irons. There is definitely a learning curve to make the curls, but I''ve found it extremely easy. If you watch the videos on youtube and the DVD that comes with the iron, you''re set. If you spend an afternoon just playing with different techniques on different pieces of hair, you''ll quickly learn it all.
As far as styling products, since your hair sounds naturally pretty well behaved and you''re just looking for maybe a bit more polish, I will recommend using a nice styling cream on your damp hair. I would recommend any of the Redken products like Align 12 or any others. I would also recommend Fekkai''s Glossing Cream because you can use it on damp hair for a more polished look after styling, and you can also use it on dry hair to add a bit of shine or tame flyaways. If you do choose to purchase any sort of heat styling product like a straightener, I would also recommend a thermal protection product, like Redken''s Smooth Down Heat Glide. Farouk Chi makes a very popular heat protector, and Biosilk is very popular as well.
Date: 5/4/2008 9:02:42 PM
Author: pennquaker09
Date: 5/4/2008 11:08:42 AM
For styling tools, it''s always good to have a good blow dryer and brush. Do you currently have a hair stylist? If you don''t, find a good reputable stylist/colorist at a great salon (preferable upscale) and see how he or she does your hair. One of the most important things I can say, and most will agree, it that good product is essential to having good healthy looking hair. When I say good product, I mean only things you can get from a good salon. None of that Pantene or Herbal Essence(sp?) garbage from ______ (insert mass merchant here). You should get the opinion of an expert before you buy product. I personally like Matrix/Biolage products.
I''m SUPER intimidated by blowdrying (silly I know) - my hair takes FOREVER to dry because its so thick. I would love to find a styling regimen that doesn''t require it![]()
I''m also still working on finding a good stylist. Trust me - that''s one thing I know the importance of, and I''m fiercely loyal when I do find them. I''ve had three great ones in my life so far, the first one retired when I was in high school, the second left to teach cosmetology school, and the last one is still working but is now 3,000 miles away from me (in Boston - I went to college in Providence, but now am in graduate school in San Francisco). I go see him whenever I can, but its obviously not convenient and I would prefer to find someone local. I''ve tried at least 4 or 5 people and not been remotely thrilled with any of them. I''m going to try someone new (hopefully) in the next couple of weeks, recommended to me by my best-groomed friend (I ADORED her waxer), so I''m really hoping that will be my SF hair guru who can help me learn how to style my hair.
Anyway, sorry that was a long tangent, but yes, I will definitely work on finding somebody good AND local. In case I can''t get away without the blowdryer, do you have a type or specifications you like? A really good brush you recommend? Anyone else want to chime in on this (sorry for the threadjack!!)
Thank you![]()
Date: 5/5/2008 12:20:35 AM
Author: AmberGretchen
I''m SUPER intimidated by blowdrying (silly I know) - my hair takes FOREVER to dry because its so thick. I would love to find a styling regimen that doesn''t require it![]()
I''m also still working on finding a good stylist. Trust me - that''s one thing I know the importance of, and I''m fiercely loyal when I do find them. I''ve had three great ones in my life so far, the first one retired when I was in high school, the second left to teach cosmetology school, and the last one is still working but is now 3,000 miles away from me (in Boston - I went to college in Providence, but now am in graduate school in San Francisco). I go see him whenever I can, but its obviously not convenient and I would prefer to find someone local. I''ve tried at least 4 or 5 people and not been remotely thrilled with any of them. I''m going to try someone new (hopefully) in the next couple of weeks, recommended to me by my best-groomed friend (I ADORED her waxer), so I''m really hoping that will be my SF hair guru who can help me learn how to style my hair.
Anyway, sorry that was a long tangent, but yes, I will definitely work on finding somebody good AND local. In case I can''t get away without the blowdryer, do you have a type or specifications you like? A really good brush you recommend? Anyone else want to chime in on this (sorry for the threadjack!!)
Thank you![]()
I like origins perfect world eye cream. I don''t know if it has any animal products but it isn''t tested and I imagine they ship to Canada. It smells lovely and I have had good luck with it.Date: 5/4/2008 7:14:38 PM
Author: oddoneout
Macie is there any other animal friendly products that you use? Anyone can answer too. I''m curious to know if there''s any good eye cream (night) for first wrinkles that isn''t tested on animals and contains no animal ingredients? The one I love and use is discontinued. Availability in Canada is a must.
Thanks
Date: 5/5/2008 11:25:16 AM
Author: pennquaker09
Date: 5/5/2008 12:20:35 AM
Author: AmberGretchen
I''m SUPER intimidated by blowdrying (silly I know) - my hair takes FOREVER to dry because its so thick. I would love to find a styling regimen that doesn''t require it![]()
I''m also still working on finding a good stylist. Trust me - that''s one thing I know the importance of, and I''m fiercely loyal when I do find them. I''ve had three great ones in my life so far, the first one retired when I was in high school, the second left to teach cosmetology school, and the last one is still working but is now 3,000 miles away from me (in Boston - I went to college in Providence, but now am in graduate school in San Francisco). I go see him whenever I can, but its obviously not convenient and I would prefer to find someone local. I''ve tried at least 4 or 5 people and not been remotely thrilled with any of them. I''m going to try someone new (hopefully) in the next couple of weeks, recommended to me by my best-groomed friend (I ADORED her waxer), so I''m really hoping that will be my SF hair guru who can help me learn how to style my hair.
Anyway, sorry that was a long tangent, but yes, I will definitely work on finding somebody good AND local. In case I can''t get away without the blowdryer, do you have a type or specifications you like? A really good brush you recommend? Anyone else want to chime in on this (sorry for the threadjack!!)
Thank you![]()
I''m going to attempt to give you a straightening primer with this.
I definitely have an easier time because I''m a guy and I don''t have that much hair. I personally have a CHI Rocket and I''m very happy with it. Sedu and the T3 bespoke are also pretty good. Since you have thick hair, it''s important that you get a dryer with at least 1875 watts and make sure it has a ceramic heating element. The same thing applies to your smoothing iron, make sure it''s ceramic with variable temperature control. I like a dryer that has a cold shot, also.
Since you have thick hair, I would probably advise you to get a paddle brush. Sephora has their own that retails for about $30.00, but I know the Mason Pearson detangler works for your type of hair. The only thing is that a Mason Pearson is around $80. Additionally, a large round ceramic brush and a wide toothed comb would be essential. The round brush of choice would be something like, the GHD size 5 would be a good one. If not that, something similar.
Okay, back to the smoothing iron (flat iron). Again, I don''t have a lot in terms of volume, but mine is thick because of curls. This is where I''m going to interject and say that the look that you want to achieve, is dependent upon the products that you use.I have curly hair, but because I use heat to make it straight, I use the Matrix Sleek look products to facilitate that. Sleek Look products basically help protect ones hair from the heat. Further, products are meant to be used collectively or in a combination with other products.
For instance, if your hair is color treated, you should use shampoo and conditioner formulated for color treated hair. From the way you described your hair, Sleek Look products would probably work for you. Also, Redken Smooth Down would work. My stylist uses Redken and it''s okay, but I prefer the matrix/biolage products.
And since your hair is long and thick your iron should probably be 1''. When I went back and read my original post, I noticed that I made a typo. I have the old GHD styler and I have the new GHD IV mini styler. It''s 1/2'' and it''s for shorter hair.
Lastly, one thing I can suggest is getting your hair thinned out the next time you get it cut.
Is that how you do it? OK I''ve found something to occupy me for an evening now...Date: 5/4/2008 10:04:22 AM
Author: Lorelei
Yes, you can curl your hair with irons - good point! I use my GHD to curl and it works well. I find my forming my hair into curls and clamping it with the iron works better than twisting the iron through the hair, the curls stay in longer I find.