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5.14ct H VS1Cushion Brilliant - please give me your thoughts

Phoenix

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So I am not actively looking for another honker right now (needing or rather wanting earrings more than anything). I was just looking at some sites in search of earrings and came across this 5.14ct H VS1 cushion briliant. I sent an email enquiry to the vendor re something else actually, but think I may be able to trade in my 3.02ct F VS2 modern RB's and two 1.5ct's also MRB for this one without too much top-up hopefully (but how much top-up is an unknown right now, hence this thread).

FYI I've not been wearing my 3.02ct F VS2 for about 5-6 years now and the 1.5ct's are being put up for sale/ or for trade. I'm tempted to get this cushion, not least because I think in the LR, being a larger stone it'll keep its value and may even go up in value (see the threads on diamond increases). Most of my diamonds, bought several years ago, have now either gone up or at least retained their values. I know for a fact that at least 3-4 PS'ers have sold their diamonds at a small profit (though I don't know how much profit). IMO, diamonds are ok investment vehicles if you keep them for several years and more. We already have other investments and diamonds are great because I can enjoy them while not losing money on them. Moreover, I don't think and sincerely hope and pray that DH and I would never be in a position whereby we'd need money urgently and would therefore have to liquidate my bling quickly.

Now, I am not looking for anyone to say "stop looking to buy more diamonds" or "your money can be better used elsewhere", however well intended these comments are. It is after all our money and our biz what we do with it. Sorry, that sounds a bit defensive and somewhat aggressive but I am really not looking for such input. FWIW and if anyone cares, after the earrings and this stone, I will not be buying any more bling (well except maybe a necklace), not even a 3-stone ring or an antique diamond honker either, nor another bracelet. AND I have been wondering what to do with the 3.02ct and my plan has been to sell it to fund the antique honker.

What I AM looking for is your input on what you think of this diamond, cut-wise and therefore optical performance-wise. I'll ask for an ASET but I don't know if this vendor provides ASET images. Incidentally, who does provide ASET images if I need to ask for their help? But judging from the cert and numbers alone, what do you think?

Also price-wise, how much do you think is fair market value for it (for this whole stone, not the top -up amount)? A ballpark figure or a range would be fine.

Thank you.

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Phoenix, I love looking at all of your jewels - your collection is divine. :love:

But you're leading off in a defensive manner because you know what's coming. Your constant searching, your constant struggle with what to do, your constant outlook for bigger and better. I feel like you've developed diamond ADD. First, a honking RBC. Then there's bigger studs. Maybe you should get a giant tennis bracelet. Gotta start looking for a 7 carat antique cut. What about a three stone. And now, this cushion. Amidst all that, a thread about focusing on forever pieces.

I honestly think you need to do some self-reflection. I understand that diamonds bring you joy. They do the same for me. BUT, you need to be able to be truly, 100% satisfied at some point - it's not healthy to strive incessantly for something else, seemingly anything else. It feels like you've got an obsession, perhaps a true addition.

I say none of this from a place of vitriol, or jealousy, or anything else negative. I say it because I hate to see people, especially kindhearted and generous ones like you, unhappy. Your actions suggest you are very unhappy with your diamond hobby. I think you need to take all your diamonds off, go on a volunteer trip to Cambodia/PNG/Nepal, do a bit of spiritual work, and then see where that takes you.

I'm sorry this is not the response you were looking for, but I have held off speaking up for some time now. I hope you can objectively see the situation and make the chances necessary to finally be fulfilled. :))
 
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justginger|1360494393|3376610 said:
Phoenix, I love looking at all of your jewels - your collection is divine. :love:

But you're leading off in a defensive manner because you know what's coming. Your constant searching, your constant struggle with what to do, your constant outlook for bigger and better. I feel like you've developed diamond ADD. First, a honking RBC. Then there's bigger studs. Maybe you should get a giant tennis bracelet. Gotta start looking for a 7 carat antique cut. What about a three stone. And now, this cushion. Amidst all that, a thread about focusing on forever pieces.

I honestly think you need to do some self-reflection. I understand that diamonds bring you joy. They do the same for me. BUT, you need to be able to be truly, 100% satisfied at some point - it's not healthy to strive incessantly for something else, seemingly anything else. It feels like you've got an obsession, perhaps a true addition.

I say none of this from a place of vitriol, or jealousy, or anything else negative. I say it because I hate to see people, especially kindhearted and generous ones like you, unhappy. Your actions suggest you are very unhappy with your diamond hobby. I think you need to take all your diamonds off, go on a volunteer trip to Cambodia/PNG/Nepal, do a bit of spiritual work, and then see where that takes you.

I'm sorry this is not the response you were looking for, but I have held off speaking up for some time now. I hope you can objectively see the situation and make the chances necessary to finally be fulfilled. :))

Thank you, Ginger. I know you mean well but again I am not looking for any such input.

I do have other things in my life that keep me happy and fulfilled. This to me is another investment vehicle and I do wear my diamonds and enjoy them very much. I only wish I'd bought some larger diamonds, esp coloured diamonds, that I came across several years ago; as they've gone up so much in value since then.

As for consolidating my collection, ie. selling smaller pieces and getting fewer and larger ones, that is a smart move as smaller diamonds don't go up in value like larger ones. And I enjoy larger diamonds more.

ETA: I am also "obsessed" like this with my other investments and they have served me/ us well. I think the key is to make smart well researched choices and not buy blindly.
 
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Phoenix|1360494572|3376611 said:
justginger|1360494393|3376610 said:
Phoenix, I love looking at all of your jewels - your collection is divine. :love:

But you're leading off in a defensive manner because you know what's coming. Your constant searching, your constant struggle with what to do, your constant outlook for bigger and better. I feel like you've developed diamond ADD. First, a honking RBC. Then there's bigger studs. Maybe you should get a giant tennis bracelet. Gotta start looking for a 7 carat antique cut. What about a three stone. And now, this cushion. Amidst all that, a thread about focusing on forever pieces.

I honestly think you need to do some self-reflection. I understand that diamonds bring you joy. They do the same for me. BUT, you need to be able to be truly, 100% satisfied at some point - it's not healthy to strive incessantly for something else, seemingly anything else. It feels like you've got an obsession, perhaps a true addition.

I say none of this from a place of vitriol, or jealousy, or anything else negative. I say it because I hate to see people, especially kindhearted and generous ones like you, unhappy. Your actions suggest you are very unhappy with your diamond hobby. I think you need to take all your diamonds off, go on a volunteer trip to Cambodia/PNG/Nepal, do a bit of spiritual work, and then see where that takes you.

I'm sorry this is not the response you were looking for, but I have held off speaking up for some time now. I hope you can objectively see the situation and make the chances necessary to finally be fulfilled. :))

Thank you, Ginger. I know you mean well but again I am not looking for any such input.

I do have other things in my life that keep me happy and fulfilled. This to me is another investment vehicle and I do wear my diamonds and enjoy them very much. I only wish I'd bought some larger diamonds, esp coloured diamonds, that I came across several years ago; as they've gone up so much in value since then.

As for consolidating my collection, ie. selling smaller pieces and getting fewer and larger ones, that is a smart move as smaller diamonds don't go up in value like larger ones. And I enjoy larger diamonds more.

ETA: I am also "obsessed" like this with my other investments and they have served me/ us well. I think the key is to make smart well researched choices and not buy blindly.

Fair enough, Phoenix. I will continue to enjoy ogling your purchases, no matter what they are or when they occur. :))
 
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No worries, Ginger:-). I know you meant well.

I really am doing a bunch of charity work (as well as giving donations to various charities); and DH and I are looking to do more, especially for Vietnamese kids. So my life is not lacking in that regard, I promise.
 
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Again FWIW, the main reason I am considering this is because I might be able to get this 5.14ct cushion for a good deal as this is a secondhand site (a reputable one), and free up the other diamonds, esp the 3.02ct which I am not even wearing incidentally.

As I mentioned, I was actually enquiring about another diamond on his site; and his offer for top-up for that is actually quite attractive. It'd mean I'd make some $$$ on the 3.02ct which was bought in 2006 and break even on the 1.5ct's (see what I mean about larger vs. smaller diamonds? Mind you, the 1.5cts were only bought in the last two years or so).
 
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Phoenix|1360497862|3376617 said:
Again FWIW, the main reason I am considering this is because I might be able to get this 5.14ct cushion for a good deal as this is a secondhand site (a reputable one), and free up the other diamonds, esp the 3.02ct which I am not even wearing incidentally.

:o :nono: :nono: :o You must be punished! :Up_to_something:
 
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I guess my thoughts are that if you can break even or better yet, come out ahead, go for it, as long as you a certain that you won't regret selling the pear (that is the 3.02 you are referring to?) and the 1.5's, because you know that if you were to change your mind in a couple of years, you will pay way more for them now than you did originally.

Only you can know what is the right decision for you at this time. I'm not one for thinking that jewelry is an investment in the same way that stocks, etc. are, but compared to other luxury items (i.e. cars) they hold their value pretty well.

You've been pretty clear that you don't want anyone's opinion about your contemplating another diamond purchase, but I'm going to offer mine anyway. As you know, it took me several tries to get my "forever" pieces. I love both of them, but I won't lie...when someone posts some honker antique stone (ala missy and sarahbear), my heart skips a beat and I contemplate selling one of my pieces to fund a honker of my own (we are not in the position to keep both of my rings and purchase another). I then spend several days searching though eBay, JBEG, OWD and the like. I've even found a stone I considered worth checking out. However, when it came to actually having to think about which ring to give up (most likely the oval, since it's more valuable and Ari has already asked me to call him if I ever consider selling it), I can't do it. I realize that I am totally satisfied with what I have (not to mention that I truly wouldn't be comfortable wearing a 5 ct rock around my peers and if I ever mentioned selling one of these rings, I think my DH would divorce me!!). The point is this: I think that when you find your forever piece(s), the thought of selling them will cause total anxiety and you won't be able to do it. That tells me that you haven't found it (them) yet.

As long as you don't lose money, I say keep looking til you find a piece that you couldn't consider parting with....
 
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Mayk|1360501069|3376625 said:
Phoenix|1360497862|3376617 said:
Again FWIW, the main reason I am considering this is because I might be able to get this 5.14ct cushion for a good deal as this is a secondhand site (a reputable one), and free up the other diamonds, esp the 3.02ct which I am not even wearing incidentally.

:o :nono: :nono: :o You must be punished! :Up_to_something:

LOL! You crack me up! :lol:
 
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yennyfire|1360502543|3376633 said:
I guess my thoughts are that if you can break even or better yet, come out ahead, go for it, as long as you a certain that you won't regret selling the pear (that is the 3.02 you are referring to?) and the 1.5's, because you know that if you were to change your mind in a couple of years, you will pay way more for them now than you did originally.

Only you can know what is the right decision for you at this time. I'm not one for thinking that jewelry is an investment in the same way that stocks, etc. are, but compared to other luxury items (i.e. cars) they hold their value pretty well.

You've been pretty clear that you don't want anyone's opinion about your contemplating another diamond purchase, but I'm going to offer mine anyway. As you know, it took me several tries to get my "forever" pieces. I love both of them, but I won't lie...when someone posts some honker antique stone (ala missy and sarahbear), my heart skips a beat and I contemplate selling one of my pieces to fund a honker of my own (we are not in the position to keep both of my rings and purchase another). I then spend several days searching though eBay, JBEG, OWD and the like. I've even found a stone I considered worth checking out. However, when it came to actually having to think about which ring to give up (most likely the oval, since it's more valuable and Ari has already asked me to call him if I ever consider selling it), I can't do it. I realize that I am totally satisfied with what I have (not to mention that I truly wouldn't be comfortable wearing a 5 ct rock around my peers and if I ever mentioned selling one of these rings, I think my DH would divorce me!!). The point is this: I think that when you find your forever piece(s), the thought of selling them will cause total anxiety and you won't be able to do it. That tells me that you haven't found it (them) yet.

As long as you don't lose money, I say keep looking til you find a piece that you couldn't consider parting with....

You've made some very valid points, Yenny.

I agree that selling diamonds now and having to buy them again later at higher prices would not be a good idea. The 3.02ct F VS2 is a modern RB. The pear is 3.50ct H Si2. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Agreed also re cars, esp cars where we live, as they're horrendously expensive. With the exception of just a few things, I usually shy again from buying things that depreciate in value. I look at diamonds as a diversification of our portfolio :wink2: . That I get to wear them and enjoy them tremendously (and even make some money on them later down the line) is a BIG bonus! :appl:

So to summarise, I am keeping Holly (no way in h*ll am I selling her, lol :tongue: ), the 3.50ct pear(really love that too), bracelet (very blingy), PP watch (understated elegance) and larger earrings (I :love: :love: :love: earrings) as well as a few other smaller sentimental pieces. I may take back one of the 2ct's to make into a 3-stone ring if I don't get this cushion. I've made up my mind to sell the 1.5ct's and as long as I can at least break even on them, either in an outright sale or as trade-ins, I'd be ok.

I can totally understand why you'd be reluctant to sell your ring. It's absolutely gorgeous :love: :love: :love: :love: I'd be very upset for you if you were to ever part with her.
 
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How big is that table? The image is a bit fuzzy.

Before I even think about price, can I see a photo of the diamond?

Is this a newly cut cushion or a true antique?
 
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CharmyPoo|1360504210|3376643 said:
How big is that table? The image is a bit fuzzy.

Before I even think about price, can I see a photo of the diamond?

Is this a newly cut cushion or a true antique?

The table is 58%.

I don't have a photo yet and I plan to ask for one (along with the ASET - if he does provide them). My plan is to suss out first whether the cushion would be worth buying, ie. would it perform well, would it look pleasing, and then make an offer.

I believe it's a antique cut cushion, not a true antique. Would this make a signficant difference? Would a true antique tend to be a bit cheaper?

Thank you for chiming in, Charmy. I am not conversant in cushions. I am gonna read up on them, esp your recent thread on cushions.
 
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Phoenix|1360494572|3376611 said:
justginger|1360494393|3376610 said:
Phoenix, I love looking at all of your jewels - your collection is divine. :love:

But you're leading off in a defensive manner because you know what's coming. Your constant searching, your constant struggle with what to do, your constant outlook for bigger and better. I feel like you've developed diamond ADD. First, a honking RBC. Then there's bigger studs. Maybe you should get a giant tennis bracelet. Gotta start looking for a 7 carat antique cut. What about a three stone. And now, this cushion. Amidst all that, a thread about focusing on forever pieces.

I honestly think you need to do some self-reflection. I understand that diamonds bring you joy. They do the same for me. BUT, you need to be able to be truly, 100% satisfied at some point - it's not healthy to strive incessantly for something else, seemingly anything else. It feels like you've got an obsession, perhaps a true addition.

I say none of this from a place of vitriol, or jealousy, or anything else negative. I say it because I hate to see people, especially kindhearted and generous ones like you, unhappy. Your actions suggest you are very unhappy with your diamond hobby. I think you need to take all your diamonds off, go on a volunteer trip to Cambodia/PNG/Nepal, do a bit of spiritual work, and then see where that takes you.

I'm sorry this is not the response you were looking for, but I have held off speaking up for some time now. I hope you can objectively see the situation and make the chances necessary to finally be fulfilled. :))

Thank you, Ginger. I know you mean well but again I am not looking for any such input.

I do have other things in my life that keep me happy and fulfilled. This to me is another investment vehicle and I do wear my diamonds and enjoy them very much. I only wish I'd bought some larger diamonds, esp coloured diamonds, that I came across several years ago; as they've gone up so much in value since then.

As for consolidating my collection, ie. selling smaller pieces and getting fewer and larger ones, that is a smart move as smaller diamonds don't go up in value like larger ones. And I enjoy larger diamonds more.

ETA: I am also "obsessed" like this with my other investments and they have served me/ us well. I think the key is to make smart well researched choices and not buy blindly.


I was quite relieved to read Ginger's post--as a casual observer who has read through your many many posts I find your constant search for bigger somewhat disturbing. If you post on a public forum the input you get may not be input you want.
 
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bgray|1360504815|3376650 said:
I was quite relieved to read Ginger's post--as a casual observer who has read through your many many posts I find your constant search for bigger somewhat disturbing. If you post on a public forum the input you get may not be input you want.

I realise this. I don't want them but if people want to post, that's up to them. {shrug}

I know me, I know my life. I know what makes me happy and what doesn't....therefore at the risk of sounding rude, I am just gonna ignore such posts and shall not even respond to them (this one and Ginger's obviously being the exception).

So again, I am looking for advice on the actual diamond itself and its pricing. I would like to be able to make a well informed decision.
 
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Ahhh, thanks for clarifying Phoenix. Now that I understand what you have verses what you're considering selling, I'd definitely sell the 3.02 RB, especially if you can make a profit. IMO, you won't wear a 3ct RB when you have Holly.

On a personal note, I am SO glad that you are keeping the pear. It's one of my PS faves and I'd be sad to see it go (unless it went to a PSer where I could continue to oogle from time to time! ;)) ).

I think you make valid points about jewelry holding it's value or increasing slightly...cars definitely don't fall into this category! Some of my friends don't understand my bling, but drive brand new Mercedes every 3 years...THAT is something I don't get....anyhoo, I digress.

You commented that you may take back one of the 2 ct to make a 3 stone if you don't get this cushion. That statement makes me think that you feel "ho hum" about both the 3 stone ring idea AND the 5 ct cushion. If you could lean one way or the other, then I don't think either piece is right if you kwim? I think that you should feel strongly about a piece before you do anything and this statement makes me think that you don't (if I'm mistaken, my apologies). I just know that I find the whole process of buying bling and finding the right setting somewhat stressful, because if I don't get it right, I've thrown $$ away (which makes me physically ill)....if it doesn't bother you (the search, the decisions over settings, etc.) then it doesn't matter. I just know that for me, I couldn't do it if I wasn't 150% in love with an idea (be it 3 stone, antique honker, 5ct cushion, etc.). I know that you didn't ask for the commentary, and I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, just that it doesn't sound like you're in love with either idea...
 
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Im glad you are keeping the pear. Shes too pretty.
pretty.as for you selling the 3ct. Makes sense. Its just a smaller version of holly. If its not gking to get worn than put it to work for you :))

As for the cushion, i guess it depends on the price. If i had the money for a 5 ct i find step cuts to be the most attractive at such high ct. I wouldnt but a cushion. But i dont know how good a deal this is.
 
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yennyfire|1360505421|3376654 said:
Ahhh, thanks for clarifying Phoenix. Now that I understand what you have verses what you're considering selling, I'd definitely sell the 3.02 RB, especially if you can make a profit. IMO, you won't wear a 3ct RB when you have Holly.

On a personal note, I am SO glad that you are keeping the pear. It's one of my PS faves and I'd be sad to see it go (unless it went to a PSer where I could continue to oogle from time to time! ;)) ).

I think you make valid points about jewelry holding it's value or increasing slightly...cars definitely don't fall into this category! Some of my friends don't understand my bling, but drive brand new Mercedes every 3 years...THAT is something I don't get....anyhoo, I digress.

You commented that you may take back one of the 2 ct to make a 3 stone if you don't get this cushion. That statement makes me think that you feel "ho hum" about both the 3 stone ring idea AND the 5 ct cushion. If you could lean one way or the other, then I don't think either piece is right if you kwim? I think that you should feel strongly about a piece before you do anything and this statement makes me think that you don't (if I'm mistaken, my apologies). I just know that I find the whole process of buying bling and finding the right setting somewhat stressful, because if I don't get it right, I've thrown $$ away (which makes me physically ill)....if it doesn't bother you (the search, the decisions over settings, etc.) then it doesn't matter. I just know that for me, I couldn't do it if I wasn't 150% in love with an idea (be it 3 stone, antique honker, 5ct cushion, etc.). I know that you didn't ask for the commentary, and I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, just that it doesn't sound like you're in love with either idea...

No worries, Yenny. You are definitely one of the people I look up to and your jewellery is TDF!! :love: :love: :love:

(Ginger is also a sweetheart and also bgray. I know you ladies mean well. I just don't want to respond to such posts and having to justify to others when I know my own situation better than anyone else obviously; not to mention that they detract from the point of this thread).

The 3.02ct has not been worn for so many years. DH wants me to keep it but I just don't see the point. I would really like to free up the $$$ and as you said, since I'd be making a profit, then why not indeed? Agreed again about cars - I see lots of people in SG driving Merc's and Lamborghini's and Ferrari's etc...and I wonder why (and cars cost like 3 times as much as they do in the US and in Europe, the cars are already horribly expensive but there's also what's called a "Certificate of Entitlement" which in itself is something like USD80k :o ;( - now talk about unwise purchases!!).

Hmmmm....I love wearing a 3-stone ring. I've worn one almost constantly on my RH for several years, except for the last few months (since I sent the diamonds to Perry). The reason I mentioned either the 3-stone ring or this one is because I am getting quite a few rings (let's see.. Holly, the pear..and one more ring would make it three... and adding both would make a total of four rings - am not counting smaller ones like eternity bands incidentally). It just seems a bit excessive, even for me who loves bling (ha ha, you don't say) and even though I'd like to consolidate and add larger diamonds to the collection. But I've learned to not say "never", ha ha... :cheeky: :naughty: :bigsmile: I might end up with both...we shall see....

Now, settings...well that's an entirely different story. Luckily I don't suffer from this affliction...well not as much. I mean I do change settings but not as many times as I've seen on PS and I don't spend a huge amount there. But of course if getting the right setting makes someone happy, then who am I to judge?
 
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nielseel|1360505992|3376659 said:
Im glad you are keeping the pear. Shes too pretty.
pretty.as for you selling the 3ct. Makes sense. Its just a smaller version of holly. If its not gking to get worn than put it to work for you :))

As for the cushion, i guess it depends on the price. If i had the money for a 5 ct i find step cuts to be the most attractive at such high ct. I wouldnt but a cushion. But i dont know how good a deal this is.

I am definitely keeping my pear. She is puurrteee, that's for sure! :praise:

Yes, the 3ct is a smaller version of Holly. It just doesn't make any economic sense to keep it.

I'd ONLY get the cushion if the price is right (and also if it performs well). I'd for sure have to choose between a cushion and and EC. I love both but if the price of this cushion is attractive, I could certainly be persuaded to lean that way! :cheeky: :bigsmile:
 
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Understandable. I just think big cushions end up looking like you are wearing a rock. :lol:
 
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yennyfire|1360505421|3376654 said:
Ahhh, thanks for clarifying Phoenix. Now that I understand what you have verses what you're considering selling, I'd definitely sell the 3.02 RB, especially if you can make a profit. IMO, you won't wear a 3ct RB when you have Holly.

On a personal note, I am SO glad that you are keeping the pear. It's one of my PS faves and I'd be sad to see it go (unless it went to a PSer where I could continue to oogle from time to time! ;)) ).

I think you make valid points about jewelry holding it's value or increasing slightly...cars definitely don't fall into this category! Some of my friends don't understand my bling, but drive brand new Mercedes every 3 years...THAT is something I don't get....anyhoo, I digress.

You commented that you may take back one of the 2 ct to make a 3 stone if you don't get this cushion. That statement makes me think that you feel "ho hum" about both the 3 stone ring idea AND the 5 ct cushion. If you could lean one way or the other, then I don't think either piece is right if you kwim? I think that you should feel strongly about a piece before you do anything and this statement makes me think that you don't (if I'm mistaken, my apologies). I just know that I find the whole process of buying bling and finding the right setting somewhat stressful, because if I don't get it right, I've thrown $$ away (which makes me physically ill)....if it doesn't bother you (the search, the decisions over settings, etc.) then it doesn't matter. I just know that for me, I couldn't do it if I wasn't 150% in love with an idea (be it 3 stone, antique honker, 5ct cushion, etc.). I know that you didn't ask for the commentary, and I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, just that it doesn't sound like you're in love with either idea...

I'm another huge admirer of your bling!! :love: :love: I agree with Yenny on this part though. While it may be the right time to sell the 3ctRB especially while you can make a profit, it may be worth considering putting the funds aside until the right stone comes along. What's the rush?? I would hate to see you roll it over into another ring that you just feel 'eh!' about kwim? You have stunning pieces to wear and other gorgeous projects in the works, so sitting back and waiting for the right stone will give you time to enjoy your other beauties!

You already know that we can't give you an opinion on the 5ct without more information, but I'm looking forward to seeing actual photos and ASET images. :love:
 
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Phoenix|1360506340|3376661 said:
yennyfire|1360505421|3376654 said:
Ahhh, thanks for clarifying Phoenix. Now that I understand what you have verses what you're considering selling, I'd definitely sell the 3.02 RB, especially if you can make a profit. IMO, you won't wear a 3ct RB when you have Holly.

On a personal note, I am SO glad that you are keeping the pear. It's one of my PS faves and I'd be sad to see it go (unless it went to a PSer where I could continue to oogle from time to time! ;)) ).

I think you make valid points about jewelry holding it's value or increasing slightly...cars definitely don't fall into this category! Some of my friends don't understand my bling, but drive brand new Mercedes every 3 years...THAT is something I don't get....anyhoo, I digress.

You commented that you may take back one of the 2 ct to make a 3 stone if you don't get this cushion. That statement makes me think that you feel "ho hum" about both the 3 stone ring idea AND the 5 ct cushion. If you could lean one way or the other, then I don't think either piece is right if you kwim? I think that you should feel strongly about a piece before you do anything and this statement makes me think that you don't (if I'm mistaken, my apologies). I just know that I find the whole process of buying bling and finding the right setting somewhat stressful, because if I don't get it right, I've thrown $$ away (which makes me physically ill)....if it doesn't bother you (the search, the decisions over settings, etc.) then it doesn't matter. I just know that for me, I couldn't do it if I wasn't 150% in love with an idea (be it 3 stone, antique honker, 5ct cushion, etc.). I know that you didn't ask for the commentary, and I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, just that it doesn't sound like you're in love with either idea...

No worries, Yenny. You are definitely one of the people I look up to and your jewellery is TDF!! :love: :love: :love:

(Ginger is also a sweetheart and also bgray. I know you ladies mean well. I just don't want to respond to such posts and having to justify to others when I know my own situation better than anyone else obviously; not to mention that they detract from the point of this thread).

The 3.02ct has not been worn for so many years. DH wants me to keep it but I just don't see the point. I would really like to free up the $$$ and as you said, since I'd be making a profit, then why not indeed? Agreed again about cars - I see lots of people in SG driving Merc's and Lamborghini's and Ferrari's etc...and I wonder why (and cars cost like 3 times as much as they do in the US and in Europe, the cars are already horribly expensive but there's also what's called a "Certificate of Entitlement" which in itself is something like USD80k :o ;( - now talk about unwise purchases!!).

Hmmmm....I love wearing a 3-stone ring. I've worn one almost constantly on my RH for several years, except for the last few months (since I sent the diamonds to Perry). The reason I mentioned either the 3-stone ring or this one is because I am getting quite a few rings (let's see.. Holly, the pear..and one more ring would make it three... and adding both would make a total of four rings - am not counting smaller ones like eternity bands incidentally). It just seems a bit excessive, even for me who loves bling (ha ha, you don't say) and even though I'd like to consolidate and add larger diamonds to the collection. But I've learned to not say "never", ha ha... :cheeky: :naughty: :bigsmile: I might end up with both...we shall see....

Now, settings...well that's an entirely different story. Luckily I don't suffer from this affliction...well not as much. I mean I do change settings but not as many times as I've seen on PS and I don't spend a huge amount there. But of course if getting the right setting makes someone happy, then who am I to judge?


I'm incredibly flattered, since my "collection" is tiny compared to yours! For arguments sake, I would like to see a photo of the cushion you're considering. As you know, with any fancy shape, #s are only part of the equation....and (of course) what appeals to my eye may not appeal to yours, which is fine. We all look for different things....but, generally speaking, there are key elements to look for....so, I'll look forward to a few photos when you have them to post.
 
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Hello Phoenix!!! I have been a member for a long time but rarely post. I love reading all of your posts in your quest to find exactly the right things for your collection. I am not trying to throw a wrench into things, but I had a thought while reading this thread. I know you are looking to find a larger, better colored pair of earrings than your current ones. Had you given any consideration to finding a match for your 3.02ct as your earrings? I wasn't sure if the 3.02 was in a cut grade that you love (I know this is important to you) and so it might not be the best option. But I wanted to put it out there just in case.

I think it is wonderful that your current stones will yield you either a break even benefit or a profit. Part of me would say "sell them all and put the money aside until you find what it is that you want". But I also know that the actual cash might be worth "less" in a few years if you saved it that long (unless you put it in an interest bearing account).

Aside from that, I love cushions and would love to have one personally!!!! This may not be relevant at this juncture, but I was wondering what sort of setting/plan you had thought of for this one? Not that it matters, but I am curious. I will be interested to see more about this stone you are considering and your ultimate decision.

(Incidentally, Brian is working on a reset project for me at this very moment. I will be posting about that down the line once it is all finished. All of my reading on PS finally lead to me to a decision on what to do with my setting).

Best,
Stephanie
 
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Hi, Phoenix! :wavey: Let me be the first to say, oops, second, because I think Yenny said it, too. But I understand not having things that are 100% what you want and working towards getting the collection to be what you want! I am still trying to get my e-ring settled, too!!!

I think a large cushion would be excellent!!! If this is perhaps a Perry chosen stone, I have high hopes!!! But I can't really have an opinion on a cushion without pictures. The numbers just don't tell enough. I wouldn't set it as a solitaire, though, since you have Holly as a solitaire.

I agree with selling the 3 ct rb. I can't see any reason to keep it unless you use it for the 3 stone ring, which I think would be an excellent third ring for you. But you can use the 2.6 for the three stone ring so I can see using the 3 ct F for the trade as long as your DH goes along with it. I really think the 2.2 (or was it 2.3?) is a gorgeous and huge size for studs and that is the one I'd continue to try to match for studs. mom2boys' studs are gorgeous and I just can't say that any bigger would look better than that. In fact, Donna just traded her WF studs for a smaller size because she felt they were too big.

Soooo, I will look forward to pictures!!! :appl:
 
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Um YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do have one request though. After you buy it, you send it to me here in Chicago and let me "borrow" it for a year :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: JK!!! I love love love cushions and a 5ct!!! I'd pass out. But if you want to, DO IT!!! I would hope that it'd be a "crushed ice" cushion because I'd truly pass out!!! And you'd have to post a video of that baby under spot lighting, or ALL lighting! I'm a HUGE fan of this idea. Being someone that's given you unwanted comments before, I'm sorry that you're getting them again. Knowing what I do of you, I will always look forward to you expanding your collection and drooling over them and admiring them without judgement. As someone said before, this is a BLING forum!!! So more please!! :bigsmile:
 
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Yennyfire

If you every want to sell that oval. Please, please, please tell me first!!!!!!
 
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You should get a couple of picture of the cushion. Hard to say what it'll look like and if it looks like an old cut, facet pattern will affect price, whether it is a true antique or not.
 
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First off, let me just say that I do not know Phoenix' jewelry history...LOL...but I am surprised by some of the responses here. Aren't 99% (okay, that may be a slightly high estimate, but you get my point...haha) of us PS'ers "obsessed" with diamonds/jewelry and always looking for the next upgrade? Maybe not, but that's the impression I've gotten since becoming a PS'er over seven years ago. I know I am always looking for the next best thing...although I rarely have the funds to pay for it---so I don't! I know if my husband and I could comfortably pay for something that makes me so happy, he'd be happy to fork out the money. I may not get my 2.5 OEC dream rock for another 20 years, but I can dream, can't I? Now, if Phoenix is looking at a 5 carat honker, she obviously isn't in the same financial situation as my family. LOL! Lucky her! I think we need to just help her in her quest for her big cushion. Aren't we all here to help with our jewelry/diamond searches? I rarely see people judging others on this site, and that's what I love about Pricescope! :wink2: I never feel like I'm being judged...even after changing my engagement ring setting three times. We all seem to be pretty much in the same boat here. Indecisive, ever-changing tastes, wanting an upgrade, etc. Let's just give Phoenix the help she's looking for :wink2: . BTW Phoenix, I don't know much about cushions, but I wish you luck in your diamond search! :appl:
 
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singer|1360536208|3376941 said:
First off, let me just say that I do not know Phoenix' jewelry history...LOL...but I am surprised by some of the responses here. Aren't 99% (okay, that may be a slightly high estimate, but you get my point...haha) of us PS'ers "obsessed" with diamonds/jewelry and always looking for the next upgrade? Maybe not, but that's the impression I've gotten since becoming a PS'er over seven years ago. I know I am always looking for the next best thing...although I rarely have the funds to pay for it---so I don't! I know if my husband and I could comfortably pay for something that makes me so happy, he'd be happy to fork out the money. I may not get my 2.5 OEC dream rock for another 20 years, but I can dream, can't I? Now, if Phoenix is looking at a 5 carat honker, she obviously isn't in the same financial situation as my family. LOL! Lucky her! I think we need to just help her in her quest for her big cushion. Aren't we all here to help with our jewelry/diamond searches? I rarely see people judging others on this site, and that's what I love about Pricescope! :wink2: I never feel like I'm being judged...even after changing my engagement ring setting three times. We all seem to be pretty much in the same boat here. Indecisive, ever-changing tastes, wanting an upgrade, etc. Let's just give Phoenix the help she's looking for :wink2: . BTW Phoenix, I don't know much about cushions, but I wish you luck in your diamond search! :appl:

If you are unfamiliar with Phoenix's situation, look at her posts over the last 2 months. She is not on a quest for a big cushion, it is simply an opportunity that has presented itself, as others have before. I am normally an enabler (though not to the extent of the master, Enerchi), but you must realize that sometimes supporting someone is telling them the truth. I truly like Phoenix and don't want to see her forking over more money for a stone that won't make her happy. Again. If I were just in it for the bling photos, I would be on Team Rah Rah. But my concern is her lasting happiness.
 
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KMD|1360533796|3376918 said:
Yennyfire

If you every want to sell that oval. Please, please, please tell me first!!!!!!

LOL, KMD. I'll add you to the list (I think you're third in line). Honestly though, I don't ever see myself selling this stone/setting. I just love it too much and realize that it really is a needle in a haystack and would be truly irreplacable.
 
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oops, double post.
 
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