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Date: 3/13/2006 9:56:40 PM
Author: fortheloveofdiamonds
I''m sure your guesses on the order is as good as any of ours Cinnabar! Here is my list.

1. Melissa ( I don''t think she has much chops for Stevie)
2. Kevin
3. Bucky
4. Paris
5. Lisa
6. Ace
7. Kellie
8. Elliott
9. Taylor
10. Katharine
11. Chris
12. Mandisa

My pick to win: Mandisa

Hehe that''s interesting to see...just cuz it''s so different from mine! The first 3 are the same basically, just varied order.

Mine:
1. Kevin
2. Bucky
3. Melissa ( think she can hold her own til here )
4. Kellie ( i adore her but unless she really starts pulling out the punches she will go sooner rather than later )
5. Lisa ( i like her alot but she''s young )
6. Taylor ( i know he has a fan base but i dont know if he has enough to hold him past this spot...when it starts to get really good)
7. Ace ( he could go one or two earlier or later but the girlies seem to really like him, though could depend on his song choices, tee hee..and if he gives any more strange ''hugs'')
8. Elliott ( i think he has a better voice than any of the above, but does he have the fan base?)
9. Paris
10. Katherine
11. Mandisa
12. Chris

Chris is my pick to win but it''s hard to tell, I think that the last 3-4 are really going to battle it out depending on how they improve in voice, working the stage, style, etc. We saw some big improvements last season so it''s anyone''s guess!
 
hehe, I just joined too
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. I'll post my picks once I choose them..

Edit to add my picks: of course we all know how quickly things can change with one bad or one incredible performance
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1. Kevin
2.Melissa
3. Bucky
4. Ace
5. Paris
6. Kellie
7. Lisa
8. Taylor
9. Elliot
10. Katherine
11. Mandisa
12. Chris
 
Yesterday, AOL had a vote. It went in order of favorites... something like this

Katherine
Kellie
Chris
Taylor
Mandissa
Elliott
Bucky
Ace
Mellisa
Kevin
Lisa
Paris

So, I think the outcome really depends on whether people vote for the best singer or if it becomes a popularity/beauty contest. It may come down to fan base - which Lisa & Paris are lacking in.
 
I can''t wait to see the show tonight!!
 
Date: 3/14/2006 9:57:26 AM
Author: fortheloveofdiamonds
I can''t wait to see the show tonight!!

me too



and FTLD: do you still love your michael b??
 
Date: 3/14/2006 9:54:38 AM
Author: fire&ice
Yesterday, AOL had a vote. It went in order of favorites... something like this

Katherine
Kellie
Chris
Taylor
Mandissa
Elliott
Bucky
Ace
Mellisa
Kevin
Lisa
Paris

So, I think the outcome really depends on whether people vote for the best singer or if it becomes a popularity/beauty contest. It may come down to fan base - which Lisa & Paris are lacking in.
Is this bottom goes first in this AOL list? Hmm that would be interesting!!
 
Here are my registered picks (1 = first to go, 12 = winner):

1. Kevin
2. Melissa
3. Bucky
4. Ace
5. Kellie
6. Paris
7. Elliot
8. Lisa
9. Katharine
10. Taylor
11. Mandisa
12. Chris

I didn''t put them in my own personal preference order (I like Ace more and Mandisa less). I loved Paris at the auditions, but she''s not lived up to her early promise; I hope she can last a while longer yet though. I think Ace will have a Constantine/Nickelback week when he does a really terrible song, and that will evict him earlier than he deserves. The same thing could happen to Taylor, so I agonised over which to put at 4 and which at 10.

After Bo''s close run last year, I think this is the year for a male rocker to win. I think Chris has a ton more charisma and stage presence than Mandisa; she has a lovely voice, but her maracas are best left unshaken (IMO).
 
Date: 3/14/2006 11:56:28 AM
Author: Mara

Date: 3/14/2006 9:54:38 AM
Author: fire&ice
Yesterday, AOL had a vote. It went in order of favorites... something like this

Katherine
Kellie
Chris
Taylor
Mandissa
Elliott
Bucky
Ace
Mellisa
Kevin
Lisa
Paris

So, I think the outcome really depends on whether people vote for the best singer or if it becomes a popularity/beauty contest. It may come down to fan base - which Lisa & Paris are lacking in.
Is this bottom goes first in this AOL list? Hmm that would be interesting!!
Yes. I''m unsure of the demographics of AOL subscribers & AI watchers. They had their pictures - so I wonder how many people voted for the best looking? Funny, there was no picture for Bucky - just number 7.
 
Didn''t register yet (have trouble following everything on this ONE site!!) but wanted to "lock in" my predictions now so as not to have an unfair advantage after seeing tonight''s performances....

In order of elimination

1. Melissa
2. Bucky
3. Ace
4. Paris
5. Lisa
6. Kevin
7. Elliott
8. Kellie
9. Mandisa
10. Katherine
11. Taylor
12. Chris

With CHRIS to win. Now, of course I''d WANT Taylor to win ... but I don''t think 2nd would be bad for him. (Or Mandisa or Katherine really).
 
oooo- i haven''t had time to register yet either but my picks:


1. Melissa (mostly cause I''m thinking her and Stevie and not going to be a good mix)
2. Kevin
3. Bucky
4. Lisa (love her voice but if she doesn''t start to pick some better songs)
5. Ace
6. Kellie
7. Paris
8. Taylor
9. Elliot
10 Mandisa
11 Katherine
12 Chris

it''s SOOOo hard to pick without knowing what else they are going to have to sing -- so I could see Elliot jumping up to #10 maybe if the songs favor his voice. I think that #1-3 could all be interchangeable dependiing on who has the tougher time with Stevie tonight...
 
deco are you smoking some crack with putting Kevin at 6?! you really think PARIS and LISA would go before him?? what don''t i know?! hehe.
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Date: 3/14/2006 5:21:07 PM
Author: Mara
deco are you smoking some crack with putting Kevin at 6?! you really think PARIS and LISA would go before him?? what don''t i know?! hehe. [:bigsmile:

Oh time will tell, Mara. Care to wager a couple toerings??
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Seriously, not to give away my secret sauce, but my logic is this... Kevin has the Vote For The Worst folks behind him - AND - 11 year old girls - AND - old folks who like sweet innocent boys. Paris & Lisa both JUST have 11 year old girls. I don''t think they''re as likeable or "fan-worthy". They don''t inspire the kind of overwhelming loyalty and madness that it takes to get enough votes. Kevin, though COMPLETELY LESS TALENTED, does. Also, the similarities between Lisa & Paris work against them too -- they kinda cancel each other out.

Just think about how long arguably icky Scott Sabol lasted last season ...
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Ooh, here are mine! (1 = first to go, 12 = winner):

1. Bucky
2. Ace
3. Kevin
4. Melissa
5. Kellie
6. Chris
7. Taylor
8. Paris
9. Mandeesa
10. Lisa
11. Elliott
12. Katharine

Of course, my list is way off, but these are just my opinions. I refuse to put Chris anywhere near the winning spot. If he wins over Katharine or Elliott, I'll never watch American Idol again. My DOG has more of a range than he does.
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I love this thread! I can''t wait how predictions our predictions will fare! Fun!
 
Will someone please explain to me Taylor's appeal? His voice isn't that great. He's going to bite it HARD when they make him sing outside his "jazzy" bubble. Of course, no one will bite it harder than Chris through the range tests. "Sorry, Chris, a Fuel song is not an option this time!"

LOL, I think AI is starting to make me angry. I turned off the TV after they voted Gideon off (before Kellie and Bucky? What is America thinking?).
 
I think that Taylor''s appeal is that he is different. He is the first of "his type" to appear on AI. All of the others seem to be clones. For example:

Ace - Constantine
Paris - Fantasia
Chris - Bo Bice
Kellie - Carrie Underwood (appearance not voice, IMO)
Katharine - Kelly Clarkson
Kevin - Clay Aiken or Anthony Fedorov

You can''t say that Taylor can be compared to anyone that has previously appeared on the show. His voice, however, is an aquired taste just as Gedeons personality is an aquired taste. As a Christian woman, I loved how faithful and unabashedly God-loving he appeared on the show. Others, right or wrong, are turned off by that.
 
Date: 3/14/2006 6:12:25 PM
Author: fortheloveofdiamonds
I think that Taylor's appeal is that he is different. He is the first of 'his type' to appear on AI. All of the others seem to be clones. For example:

Ace - Constantine
Paris - Fantasia
Chris - Bo Bice
Kellie - Carrie Underwood (appearance not voice, IMO)
Katharine - Kelly Clarkson
Kevin - Clay Aiken or Anthony Fedorov

You can't say that Taylor can be compared to anyone that has previously appeared on the show. His voice, however, is an aquired taste just as Gedeons personality is an aquired taste. As a Christian woman, I loved how faithful and unabashedly God-loving he appeared on the show. Others, right or wrong, are turned off by that.
You're exactly right! They are clones! And while I agree, image is important, it shouldn't be more important than vocal talent, EVER. I think a lot of America is holding on to a certain contestant's personality when they should be listening to the voice.
 
Date: 3/14/2006 6:16:00 PM
Author: EBree

You''re exactly right! They are clones! And while I agree, image is important, it shouldn''t be more important than vocal talent, EVER. I think a lot of America is holding on to a certain contestant''s personality when they should be listening to the voice.
100% agreed! Let''s Vote!
 
I think tonight will be important. I''m waiting until tomorrow for my pics. I do think *image* will always be a factor on AI. It always does. And, I have to agree with Deco''s logic about Paris and Lisa. It certainly proved true on the AOL list.

I have yet to be able to vote since first season. What time (zone included) do you fans get through to vote? Was it last year or two years ago that Jasmine (Hawaiian) had the advantage because of Hawaii''s time zone was so unpopulated when the show aired.

...so even the location of your fan base makes a difference.
 
Date: 3/14/2006 6:16:00 PM
Author: EBree
Image is important, it shouldn''t be more important than vocal talent, EVER. I think a lot of America is holding on to a certain contestant''s personality when they should be listening to the voice.

If that really WAS the case, how do you explain the Billboard Top 40 or TRL''s top 10? Madonna has a good voice? Please! The reality is that "great-sounding voice" doesn''t inspire the same kind of PASSION in people that "likeability" or "LOVE" does. The people who LOVE Taylor -- LOVE him, just unabashedly LOVE him. It defies all logic (like regular love does too sometimes).

I agree about Taylor being a "new type" or Original to AI. He''s bringing in a different audience completely. I just fear it''s an audience that doesn''t dial 300 times/show like Kevin lovers or Chris lovers.

AI IS a popularity contest... those with the most FANatics, speed-dialing passionate souls that don''t just switch the channel at the end of the show, will win.
 
Date: 3/14/2006 6:45:16 PM
Author: decodelighted


Date: 3/14/2006 6:16:00 PM
Author: EBree
Image is important, it shouldn't be more important than vocal talent, EVER. I think a lot of America is holding on to a certain contestant's personality when they should be listening to the voice.

If that really WAS the case, how do you explain the Billboard Top 40 or TRL's top 10? Madonna has a good voice? Please! The reality is that 'great-sounding voice' doesn't inspire the same kind of PASSION in people that 'likeability' or 'LOVE' does. The people who LOVE Taylor -- LOVE him, just unabashedly LOVE him. It defies all logic (like regular love does too sometimes).

I agree about Taylor being a 'new type' or Original to AI. He's bringing in a different audience completely. I just fear it's an audience that doesn't dial 300 times/show like Kevin lovers or Chris lovers.

AI IS a popularity contest... those with the most FANatics, speed-dialing passionate souls that don't just switch the channel at the end of the show, will win.
I'm not saying image isn't the most important thing, I'm saying it shouldn't be. Then again, I'm a 22 year old who hates the Billboard Top 40 and can't stand TRL. I enjoy (IMO) wonderful vocalists AND writers....Joni Mitchell, Crosby Stills and Nash, Simon and Garfunkel, John Lennon and Paul McCartney (okay, not the best vocally), Hall and Oates, etc. I think Kelly Clarkson is amazing, and she came out of American Idol.

With the exception of Fantasia, I think that the winners of American Idol have been acceptable. This season, though, I think cute and ditzy overwhelms the true talent, and that makes me sad. Then again, it's just a show. I don't HAVE to listen to the winner. The true vocal talent will hopefully be signed anyway.
 
also part of it is things like hometowns, loser scott savol or whatever his name was had a huge fan base at home AND that whole votefortheworst thing going on too. that was SO frustrating for me!!!! i couldn't stand him and he just had the worst attitude, he reminded me of a male brenna!

funny re: the clones because us weekly said the same thing in last week's issue...all the same picks for clones. too funny, scary?

haha deco get away from the toe rings, those things aren't being wagered.
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if you win you have the satisfaction of being right, isn't that better than measly toe rings?
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WHOAAA!!! GUYZ ... there is a crazy AI pre-show on the TV Guide channel RIGHT NOW. I wonder if they're doing this every Tuesday night?? But that's not the most imp. part ...

John Peter Lewis was on it. JPL from two? three? seasons ago? I loved him too ... didn't think he should WIN, but it sure was fun to watch his silly Elvis impersonations & snarky comedy. So now you guys know what a hapless nerd I really am!! I was a JPL lover!!


ETA: Shoot. No toerings for moi!
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Can't blame a gal for tryin'!
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wow tonite was great, the energy was great even though the judges were kind of harsh on the contestants. i personally love stevie wonder ('as' is one of my most favorite songs and we played it at our reception) so i was interested in hearing and seeing the contestants sing...i thought that they all sounded very good but there are shades of good better best of course.

ace..anyone notice how he was all 'oh my god i actually hugged stevie wonder'...think there was any wandering hand action? i would so not be surprised, ace you are creepytothemax and you so know he was like 'damn i really wish i coulda done karma chameleon' instead.

i thought kellie looked beautiful tonite, she did an okay job with a genre totally unfamiliar to her but she looked really lovely and i still adore her fresh personality...she's too cute. i hope that she can find her 'vibe' and stick around.

elliott.. sure he's got the infamous bad teeth that launched a thousand posts, but man the guy can sing sing sing!!! i wasn't familiar with the song but he did GREAT and at the end he was just so impressive. his voice is just like butta.

mandesa and those shoes. they looked WAY too tight up near the top of the toes, yikes. no wonder they hurt! i wasnt super impressed with her performance, she hit all the big notes excellent and the end was fab, but in the beginning up til the middle her voice seemed somewhat unstable.

omg bucky...extreme makeover! he was looking pretty darn hip in those sweet jeans and the shirt...they definitely have been using vo5 on the hair. he did good on the song surprisingly...kellie could take some notes about how to sing something other than country. lol re the jessica simpson hairstyle...OH SNAP!

melissa, i love her smoky voice and she belted it out, except hello even i know those lyrics!! i don't think she'll go tonite..i'd be disappointed because i don't think it's her time just yet.

lisa did fab tonite with her sassy little hip belt and straight hair. i wasn't into the head bops ala shadesoftaylor, but she sounded great of course, she typically does. she looks older than 16 though!

kevin actually surprised me that he did alright, but i just can't get past the lisp!!! and what was he wearing? he had on like white keds with khakis or something. he did a great job on the song but he looks 10 and the lisp makes him seem even younger. chicken little phone home!!

katherine sounded awesome but jeez what was she wearing?! way to stop the rumors that you ARE pregnant, katherine...wearing a flowing empire waist gown. on an ironic tone, she reminds me of a fresh unspoiled catherine zeta jones.

taylor, well he sounded fabulous, but i just feel like he tries too hard with his funky moves (was that a modified running man at the end? lord save us). but i did love his got soul? tshirt, that was cool.

paris sounded great tonite, she seemed to finally get her groove back, she's such a little dynamo, though she was a bit pink pepto for my taste. so energetic i almost felt like getting up and putting my laundry in the dryer after she sang. almost.

chris, WOW. he found a song for him that JUST WORKED and he totally made it his own. it sounded SOOO awesome. i'm so in love. i think it was appropriate he closed the show too, such a great performer. i actually watched his performance over again.

haha and can i just say i kept cracking up at simon's 'compliments'...'you're like a little wind up performing doll'...'you're like everyone's drunk fathers at weddings but you can sing'...how nice!

the best tonite vocally? for me katherine, elliott, paris, and of course CHRIS CHRIS CHRIS!!
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who do i hope goes? kevin..he's soo out of his league at this point. but who knows what'll happen!
 
I haven''t consistently watched every AI, but from what I have seen so far, I am going to predict Katharine to win this year...
 
I have to pretty much agree with Mara''s expert summation!

I have to admit I was worried (apparently for no reason) about Chris singing a Stevie Wonder song...but DAMN it all if it wasn''t the best song by a mile! I think Paula wants to have his babies and I can see why! Pant...snort...wheeze...

Taylor is still making me smile, and his fancy footwork is absolutely hilarious! Glad to see he got a decent haircut! Talk about an original! And the crowd obviously digs him!

Katherine was the only female singer that really stood out for me! Beautiful girl...but what was up with that dress??

Bucky wasn''t as sucky tonight! I was proud of him...and his hair was very Britney Spears like tonight! I think he got into some VO5 deep conditioner?

I want Kevin to go home, after I push him off the stage! I don''t know why, but he just irritates me...and frankly I don''t think he''s nearly talented enough to be in the top twelve. He''s not horrible, but these guys should be really exceptional, and he''s just OK! Kevin is not my heaven! Sympathy votes? Or something else I''m just not seeing!

Hmmmm...apparently I may be as b*tchy as Simon!
 
I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE the big stage! It feels so much more like AI now to me! The fans w/signs ... the energy ... the bigger band. Awesome!

I had a feeling this night could change a lot for folks ... some people just BLOOM on that big stage. Take it up a notch, and others look - um - wrong up there.

Song I woke up singing: Living For the City (Taylor)
Most forgettable perf: Melissa
Weirdest hair: Bucky
Creepiest moment: Ace stroking Stevie, repeatedly
Funniest moment: "They''re not REAL tarantulas!"
Worst frock in history of AI: Katherine (poor girl - she''s gorgeous!)

Sooooooo. Rankin'' It Down.

#1 - KATHERINE MCPHEE ... just flawless (aside from fashion disaster)
#2 - TAYLOR HICKS ... fun, fun, fun. I''d watch that guy for a 2 hour concert.
#3 - CHRIS DAUGHTREY ... a STAR for sure. Not his best night, but aweseome
#4 - LISA TAYLOR ... she blossomed on the big stage. Stevie''s tips helped her.
#5 - MANDISA ... a joy, un-even, should have KILLED though -- go back to jeans!
#6 - BUCKY!!! ... unbelieveably he rocked it out/step away from the hot rollers
#7 - ELLIOTT ... should have KILLED it, meh for me, nice haircut though
#8 - PARIS ... good energy but no Fantasia. Comps to Fantasia = her downfall.
#9 - KEVIN ... Part-Time Lover? This was pure comedy. Good job, AI producers!
#10 - MELISSA ... bad at the beginning, better at the end - GOES HOME TONIGHT
#11 - KELLIE ... worse than Melissa??!!! B-O-R-I-N-G. Could not end fast enuf
#12 - ACE ... puppy dog look not convincing anymore. Mister Meh.
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Melissa or Ace to go home. Unless the "Chicken Little" crowd doesn''t like the new "cranky, sassy, talks back to Simon" Cocky Little. Please!
 
love everyone''s recaps:

I thought katherine, Paris, Chris and Taylor were the best and most fun watch. I pretty much agree with everything Simon said last night. I was disapppointed in Kellie who I expected to do better, even though Stevie isn''t her thing she should have found an upbeat song and gave it a country twist. She did look beautful. Melissa did fine and I agree it was her best performance yet, but forgetting the words
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. Ace just scares me
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. Everyone else did well and I really enjoyed watching the whole show last night. Kevin seriously needs to go and I think his cocky little back talk to Simon was so wrong
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Got my hair did last night so I had to tape it.
Guess who I fastforwarded through on the playback?

Kevin - GO HOME!!!!!
Ace needs to leave - but I wouldn't mind him sticking around one week so the stylists can whack that 70s wig. Don't force yourself to learn dance moves. America knew they were rehearsed and it looked stupid.
Lisa's song style is too predictable for my tastes. La la, whine whine. Big smile. La la, whiiiiiine.
I know Bucky is supposed to be the raw rocker but he doesn't have enough control to be great. Bucky's comment on Simon's hair comment - I know dude, it wasn't my idea.
Kellie, last night was the first performance I actually appreciated her voice. I always thought she was getting the vote on looks alone. For that she has to sound extra good to get my vote.
Melissa - I love her voice. She needs to harness and control it (and remember the words
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) pre-mo-ni-tion!
Paris - why does she dress like my Aunt Regina? She looks so stuffed, and fussy, and drowning. Stylist! Stat!
Mandisa has a spectacular voice - a shake the rafters, robust, big sound. I'm just not diggin it for a Pop Idol.
Taylor - I loved his Stevie performance. The four corners jig was weird - but loved the transformation of the song. My first I love Taylor night.
Chris - just take the offer from Fuel and drop AI. Leave it for someone to win who doesn't have a band waiting for him.
Elliott - he's my new man. If he put out an album it would be a 'must own' for me.
Katherine - God awful pregnant dress but not only could I listen to her voice all day (like Elliott) I could watch her gorgeous face sing it all day (well...)
 
I had a really good time watching AI last night. I love how the competition steps up once the lineup is decided! I think that AI5 have it easier/better than contestants from AI1. Now they got a full band and backup singers etc. IMO, the backup singers'' mike is up way too loud.

I called all contestants last night and the only busy signals I got were Taylor and Chris!
I must give your girls amazing props for the recaps! Snarkalicioso! Today, I am gonna recaps by favorites! (however, the top 4 were all sooo good)

Katharine: She nailed it! It was fanstastic. Her voice, her face! She''s gorgeous and talented. The "shoe" comment was unnecessary and SO out of the blue? And, IMO, EVERYONE who is not a size 0 should stop wearing empire waist flowy tops. It makes everyone look preggers. It IS a great look when you are pregnant, however.
Chris: Come to Mama! Katharine, IMO, has a better voice but Chris is still phenomenal. I loved everything about this performance. He looked incredibly sexy tonight. I loved when he went near the band! Awesome REALLY GREAT performance.

Taylor: Taylor entertained me! His voice sounded AWESOME! His hair looked great! DON''T DYE IT! I love love love love love his little manic dance moves because I think they are soulful and meaningful, not choreographed like say, ACE!

Paris: WOW! There is the Paris we all knew and loved at the beginning! Her performance was awesome. Simon''s comment about the little wind up doll, classic!

Elliott: LOVE this guy more everytime I hear him. It wasn''t his greatest performance because we were all expecting him to do well with Stevie. We were expecting pretty much everyone, but him, to bomb! He did what we were expecting. He was good. I was really moved at how he was touched when he met Stevie.

Jessica Simpson: Jessica looked good and he sounded good. I really liked her rendition of Superstition! I think that she is very likeable and I''d like to see her stick around for a while!

Mandisa: Hated the outfit. Her face was a little shiny but she looked beautiful. I loved when she hit high notes in her song but the rest was just, well, nice.
Kevin: Part-time lover! Anyone else notice that his head gets bigger with every week that passes? He''ll be gone soon enough. Even though his performance

Kevin: Part-time lover! His performance entertained me. His vocal were not awesome. But for some strange reason beyond mine, or Randy''s, or Paula''s imagination, I was entertained. He is, however, getting cockier by the minute and he''ll be gone soon enough. Not this week though. I say this because my mom called me right after his performance and said "isn''t he just too cute." Women like my mother are why he will stay.

THE MEH STARTS HERE!

Lisa: The best of the MEH, IMO. Can she sing? Yes. Is she cute? Yes. Her performance bore me to tears. Her vocals were bland and she tried to step it up with her facial and body expressions. To me she looks like she has been groomed for Star Search all her life. Didn''t work for me.

Ace: There is nothing about Ace that is original. There is only room for one Justin Timberlake in the entertainment industry.

Melissa: Her voice sounded good. The package is not there. They made her look like a complete idiot on the intro reel. And then she goes and forgets lyrics to one of the most known songs in the world. Her performance was a complete bore.

Kellie: Kellie had the worst performance of the lot. In the intro reel you see her crying when Stevie enters the room and then we see her say that she''s doesn''t even really know any of his songs?! Her performance was uber-boring. She looked beautiful but the dress didn''t suit her. The shoes were really hot. She''ll stay because of her banter with Ryan. "Are you Arachnophobic? Oh yes I hate bugs!"

I am keeping with my prediction that Melissa will leave the show.




 
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