Another confused and indecisive girl/lady..

[munchee]

For me, I wasn’t ok with a H. However, I was perfectly fine with a G. I think the H diamond that I tried was a low H- who knows— but it was definitely “warm”. When I went to compare a G to F, my eyes could not see a difference. Maybe if the H doesn’t work for you, a G will. There is a price difference, but not like going from a H to D.

Hopefully I’m ok with H but if not, I’ll try 1 color higher at a time.

 

[LLJsmom]

Is your latest contender a WF ACA I Color? (: So excited to hear your thoughts on it!

Hi @Lessics , no it's not an I color. In my post, I wrote "I" meaning "me", not the color. I'll post more on my thread.

What is the color of the one you are testing out currently? I was surprised to see you tried an H after the D, E, and F.

Hi @headlight , no, it's not "I" color. You're right. The H I saw was too tinted to I definitely went back up the scale. I can explain further why I chose an H over in my thread.

Sorry @munchee . Don't want to derail.

 

[LLJsmom]

Exactly!!!!!! I came to this realization just today!!!! 2weeks ago I tried 9.2mm, its big but i don’t feel anything than “big”, its was like “ok its big” and I realized now that maybe its not what I’m looking for.
So for now I just need to wait for my ACA to come tomorrow to see if I’m ok with H color or I need to get smaller D/E diamond. I really really hope I’m ok with H, I’ll be doomed if I need to stick with only D/E but if it is the case then, I have a longggg way to go, definitely can not afford 3ct D until maybe all my toddler daughters graduate from college lol

hope WF doesn’t mess up with shipment date again, if they delay me 1 more time, seriously... once is more than enough.

Yes, I totally think you should look at the stone. My mom has an H AGS that is very white. I've compared it side by side to the H ACA that I recently evaluated and it is much whiter than the H. I've compared my mom's H to a GIA G, ( upside down on white paper) and they look super close. So even within color grades there are definitely high-low ends. Give it a chance, and then you will know for sure. Let us know how it goes.

 

[LLJsmom]

@LLJsmom thank you!!!! You’re right, I need to be patient.... now I’m thinking should I just cancel the 2.61 and just wait for the 3ct whichever came up? Or should I see it first and if I love it I keep it and wait for a 3ct WF that I love, but it’ll make me tied up to WF.

Remind me if I mistaken, I thought you want D color? Even E have some tint in your eyes? How could that change to an I color?

Edit: for the inclusion, I just don’t like a cloud in the table, I don’t mind with anything else, since it’ll be eyeclean and I can’t see it anyway. I think it effecting the performance

I'm so glad you are going to wait and look at the H. Even if you don't like it, every stone you look at teaches you what you don't want, and shows you another flavor of super ideals. It's a learning process, and unfortunately, a long and slow one since we have to buy, wait to receive, test out, send back, wait for them to receive, process refund (if applies) then search again. But in the long run, it's better than settling... It's a lot of money. Another PSer told me "Don't settle".

 

[Mlh]

You are welcome @Mlh. CBI does cut beautiful, stunning diamonds. And I think many many people are truly ecstatic over their CBIs. I just had to make the most honest decision for myself. I was spending so much money, and it just had to tick all the boxes. I won't get too much into my decision making process here as I am derailing @munchee 's thread enough. I will discuss further on my CBI thread if you are interested.

@LLJsmom, I would love that!

 

[Dancing Fire]

WF ACA F - returned
CBI E - returned
CBI D - returned
WF ACA H - returned
WF ACA - I think this might be a winner. Still in testing phase.

You are on their black list...

 

[munchee]

@LLJsmom its totally OK, you’re welcome to share your journey here. I have no one in real life that understand my journey more than you guys here!!!! I thought I’m weird but turned out I’m not! Yes... can’t wait to get it tomorrow I’ll update here with pictures tomorrow!!!
I can’t thank you all enough for hearing me out and giving me wonderful advice!!! I’m very frustrated if I can’t let this out and yet no one hears me in real life

 

[diamondseeker2006]

One thing I want to be sure you are thinking about is how much the halo will increase the size appearance compared to a solitaire. If a 2.6 ct diamond is about 8.9mm, then with that halo it will be almost 11mm which will be quite large on your finger. A 3 ct is about 9.3mm, so you'd be looking at about 11.3mm+. That's not a huge difference in the overall scheme of things, so you may want to think hard about whether the jump to 3 cts is worth it if you plan to set in an Emilya or similar halo.

There's one other thing I wanted to mention. You are wanting 61.5 or less for the depth. Is there something specific about that number that makes you think you prefer a cut with that depth? Because my cut-off is 62.3 with a preference for 62 or less. I think you are being too restrictive and are potentially eliminating great stones with that number, to be honest. If your goal is 3 ct H VS2, there is nothing wrong with this stone:

Diamond | 3.088 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 3978018

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 3.088 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 3978018

www.whiteflash.com

 

[munchee]

One thing I want to be sure you are thinking about is how much the halo will increase the size appearance compared to a solitaire. If a 2.6 ct diamond is about 8.9mm, then with that halo it will be almost 11mm which will be quite large on your finger. A 3 ct is about 9.3mm, so you'd be looking at about 11.3mm+. That's not a huge difference in the overall scheme of things, so you may want to think hard about whether the jump to 3 cts is worth it if you plan to set in an Emilya or similar halo.

There's one other thing I wanted to mention. You are wanting 61.5 or less for the depth. Is there something specific about that number that makes you think you prefer a cut with that depth? Because my cut-off is 62.3 with a preference for 62 or less. I think you are being too restrictive and are potentially eliminating great stones with that number, to be honest. If your goal is 3 ct H VS2, there is nothing wrong with this stone:

Diamond | 3.088 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 3978018

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 3.088 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 3978018

www.whiteflash.com

I actually prefer 61% and 61.6% is my max of max, because I just doesn’t want to get a diamond thats deeper and make it seems smaller face up. Lets put it this way, if I can get a beautiful diamond that have better diameter, why would I settle with equally beautiful diamond that looks smaller? Because a diamond that have 60.7-61.5% can be equally beautiful with the one that have 61.7-62.3% right? And why would I get a deeper cut? Unless the 60.7-61.6% definitely won’t be beautiful, then its a different story.
and I do think 0.4ct is worth it to get the jump I’m getting Emilya Halo is not just for the size appearance but I just love it. Size is the bonus. It started with aiming the size but then I can let go the size and just purely I love that setting. I’m thinking of getting 2.2ct D or E now, but thats only if I can’t take H.

As the mentioned diamond, I know currently WF have 2 3ct H diamonds. As other PSers mentioned in another thread, 1 diamond have inclusion that can be seen in certain distance and another one, the one you mentioned, have brown tint, that’s why I don’t want any of them. And I noticed they got 1 more 3.1ct H that got inspected and then returned back to WF but it looks like the inclusion is the one I’m not comfortable with. Spending close to $50k I don’t think its right to got easily settled, I know I can find a better one than this..


Cloud in the table is the only one type of inclusion I want to avoid, it might not be significant when its new, but overtime when I wear it, this kind of inclusion can make diamond don’t look clean no matter how hard I clean it?

 

[daisygrl]

Hopefully I’m ok with H but if not, I’ll try 1 color higher at a time.

I compared an H (CBI) and a G (ACA) side by side, loose stones, upside down. NO difference. And trust me, with my eagle eye (cross to bear, lol), I would see a difference if there were one. It was a high H, to be honest. I hope yours is well. Plus, it will be mounted so that will help with the color. Or, when picking a stone next time, ask you SA if it is high H. There is no visual difference between high H and a G. I know. If you cannot handle an H, I would go up to an F (G might not cut it, but not sure if you need D or E). Good luck and let us know what you think of the stone when you get it.

 

[munchee]

I compared an H (CBI) and a G (ACA) side by side, loose stones, upside down. NO difference. And trust me, with my eagle eye (cross to bear, lol), I would see a difference if there were one. It was a high H, to be honest. I hope yours is well. Plus, it will be mounted so that will help with the color. Or, when picking a stone next time, ask you SA if it is high H. There is no visual difference between high H and a G. I know. If you cannot handle an H, I would go up to an F (G might not cut it, but not sure if you need D or E). Good luck and let us know what you think of the stone when you get it.

I certainly will try F first before jumping to E/D. I’m so excited I can’t wait for tomorrow, I will sleep early tonight
I’ll update with pictures in different lighting conditions...

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I actually prefer 61% and 61.6% is my max of max, because I just doesn’t want to get a diamond thats deeper and make it seems smaller face up. Lets put it this way, if I can get a beautiful diamond that have better diameter, why would I settle with equally beautiful diamond that looks smaller? Because a diamond that have 60.7-61.5% can be equally beautiful with the one that have 61.7-62.3% right? And why would I get a deeper cut? Unless the 60.7-61.6% definitely won’t be beautiful, then its a different story.
and I do think 0.4ct is worth it to get the jump I’m getting Emilya Halo is not just for the size appearance but I just love it. Size is the bonus. It started with aiming the size but then I can let go the size and just purely I love that setting. I’m thinking of getting 2.2ct D or E now, but thats only if I can’t take H.

As the mentioned diamond, I know currently WF have 2 3ct H diamonds. As other PSers mentioned in another thread, 1 diamond have inclusion that can be seen in certain distance and another one, the one you mentioned, have brown tint, that’s why I don’t want any of them. And I noticed they got 1 more 3.1ct H that got inspected and then returned back to WF but it looks like the inclusion is the one I’m not comfortable with. Spending close to $50k I don’t think its right to got easily settled, I know I can find a better one than this..


Cloud in the table is the only one type of inclusion I want to avoid, it might not be significant when its new, but overtime when I wear it, this kind of inclusion can make diamond don’t look clean no matter how hard I clean it?

Oh, I totally remember now about the brown undertone in that diamond now. Sorry about that!

"Cloud in the table is the only one type of inclusion I want to avoid, it might not be significant when its new, but overtime when I wear it, this kind of inclusion can make diamond don’t look clean no matter how hard I clean it?"

No that would not be true at all. You could order the stone and if you can't see the cloud, you'd never see the cloud. Having the stone clean is important, but the cleanliness has nothing to do with seeing clouds. You absolutely cannot judge anything from the clarity plot alone in a VS2.

The difference in diameter of a superideal cut at 61.5 and 61.7 or even 62 depth is miniscule. It will be hard to show you diamonds with the exact same weight, but there is very little no visible difference in diameter even between 61 and 61.8:

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Making the limit at 61.5 is a mistake that will eliminate plenty of great stones. I see plenty of ACAs at 61.6-61.8. I can see making a cut off at 62, but definitely not lower than that.

 

[munchee]

@diamondseeker2006 OK, I’ll keep that in mind!!! Thank you

 

[munchee]

First thing I did when I wake up was tracking my package then refreshing the page every 30mnts? The package arrived earlier than estimated time. So I opened right away in my car, not just because I can’t wait but also want to test out how it looks inside my car (bad lighting conditions).

for a reminder, my ring size is 4.25 this diamond have 8.84mm diameter.

what I think at very moment I saw it: arrrghhh... I can see the tint and the more I look at it I feel like it shows more tint than the J I tried couple weeks ago.
Looking at the cutting I feel like its not as sharp as the J, I don’t know how to describe this. With the J every facets is so obvious, but this one looks not as edgy. But I think under better lighting this diamond might have fiery lights and have better light performance than the previous because its not “dead” under this poor car lighting.
here is the pictures I promise, I will update more later under different lighting.

 

[munchee]

Under Bathroom lighting where yellow tint will show the most

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[munchee]

Cloudy day light

 

[munchee]

In a dim room light

I was playing with my phone then feel got blinded by something light and it turned out coming from my ring.... I didn’t know that the lower profile can make such light!!!!!! I thought the fire only came from face up

 

[MissGotRocks]

The diamond looks beautiful and has plenty of presence on your finger!

 

[Bonfire]

In a dim room light

I was playing with my phone then feel got blinded by something light and it turned out coming from my ring.... I didn’t know that the lower profile can make such light!!!!!! I thought the fire only came from face up

Wow!

 

[NicoleNeedsHelp]

In a dim room light

I was playing with my phone then feel got blinded by something light and it turned out coming from my ring.... I didn’t know that the lower profile can make such light!!!!!! I thought the fire only came from face up

Do you like it? Is it a keeper?

 

[munchee]

Do you like it? Is it a keeper?

I definitely need to change the settings, the spin is really annoying

 

[Bruin Bling]

I think it looks pretty fantastic. Maybe give it a few more days and see if any tint is still noticeable. As for the spinning, hopefully someone will have a good suggestion about that!

 

[munchee]

I think it looks pretty fantastic. Maybe give it a few more days and see if any tint is still noticeable. As for the spinning, hopefully someone will have a good suggestion about that!

I can’t make decision not because the tint, but because I still want VC Emilya Halo setting, and VC won’t make a setting for outside stone now. I still can’t let go the Emilya setting which means I need to get a CIH. I’m totally OK with the tint, it only shows in bathroom&mudroom lighting, other lighting conditions looks totally white.

 

[MissGotRocks]

I definitely need to change the settings, the spin is really annoying

Pair it with a wedding band. That should stop a lot of the spinning.

 

[MissGotRocks]

I can’t make decision not because the tint, but because I still want VC Emilya Halo setting, and VC won’t make a setting for outside stone now. I still can’t let go the Emilya setting which means I need to get a CIH. I’m totally OK with the tint, it only shows in bathroom&mudroom lighting, other lighting conditions looks totally white.

I think there are times when VC is slow that he will accept outside stones for setting. I would call and talk directly to him and ask him about your options.

 

[munchee]

I think there are times when VC is slow that he will accept outside stones for setting. I would call and talk directly to him and ask him about your options.

I did ask the man himself........

 

[MissGotRocks]

I did ask the man himself........

Did you tell him you were possibly buying a super ideal cut diamond? I know he likes to put great cut quality into his rings. Tell him if he changes his mind to give you a call!

 

[munchee]

Did you tell him you were possibly buying a super ideal cut diamond? I know he likes to put great cut quality into his rings. Tell him if he changes his mind to give you a call!

Yes he knows still, a no... he said he’s not doing competitor’s diamond anymore.

 

[MissGotRocks]

Yes he knows still, a no... he said he’s not doing competitor’s diamond anymore.

Well, his work is top notch but to me, the most important part of any ring is the diamond.

If you really want his setting, then you will have to wait until he has a diamond that you want. Otherwise, you will have to check with other vendors about making a halo setting.

If you are really going to a halo setting, I don't know that I would want a diamond any larger for your finger. If you halo this diamond, it will be a large ring.

 

[munchee]

Well, his work is top notch but to me, the most important part of any ring is the diamond.

If you really want his setting, then you will have to wait until he has a diamond that you want. Otherwise, you will have to check with other vendors about making a halo setting.

If you are really going to a halo setting, I don't know that I would want a diamond any larger for your finger. If you halo this diamond, it will be a large ring.

LOL I’m trying Halo a 3ct LOL now reading what you said it might be an overkill I don’t know, I’m obsessed with a 3ct mark lol I still have time to think about it