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Are you worried about the Coronavirus?

Jimmianne said:
You would not believe some of the public bathrooms where I am. One must be desperate to use them. I wear a long scarf (using the ends to open the doors). I never use the sinks, but slather on high alcohol sanitizer after exiting the bathroom. Never touch my face, and take a shower as soon as I get home.
I am so creeped out by the thought of germs that even at home I don’t touch my face unless I wash my hands. I am not usually anywhere near being even slightly germaphobic, but reading about the virus too much has made me a believer in extreme caution.

Edit: I read once that there are more germs on public bathroom faucets than there are on the toilet seats.

Edit: eeek!
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Me too @Jimmianne! I look like I’m about to perform surgery. I ask my husband, son, and mother to wash their hands..My mom sneezes into her hands!! I follow her around and make sure she doesn’t touch anything on the way to the sink..
 
Bluegemz said:
I am a little afraid. My son is flying to LA and I just hope he’s not exposed going through LAX. My daughter is at home, 19 with MS, and my husband being 59 is more at risk. My son is not worried and is taking his trip anyway in spite of me having tried to talk him out of it. He agreed to wear gloves through the airport, disinfect his phone, carry on only, etc.
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Do not let your son come to Los Angeles. We’ve got 27,000 out of state and out of country runners here for the LA Marathon (1% from the countries of concern). Plus it was contracted in Las Vegas we know this, and many people in LA go in and out of Vegas, and we’ve had an LAX airport screener come down with it among several others. We have massive Asian tourism, 19,000 Chinese tourists a year. We have a large Iranian and Korean American population. Plus a ton of foreign travel. It’s clear that travelers are bringing the virus back and forth. Personally I would avoid LAX and LA in general if at all possible. I think they are undercounting and it’s likely been in the community for a month or more. Just my opinion but I think it’s a reasonable guess based on all the factors that LA is.
 
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To answer the question yes I am scared.
 
Currently at my go-to hotel in Toronto and they have someone bleaching the inside of the elevator every 15 minutes. It smells horrible, but I’m happy to see that they actually care.

There are multiple touchless hand sanitizer stations in every public area and staff all have sanitizer and wipes at their work stations.

Definitely putting my mind at ease.
 
chemgirl said:
Currently at my go-to hotel in Toronto and they have someone bleaching the inside of the elevator every 15 minutes. It smells horrible, but I’m happy to see that they actually care.

There are multiple touchless hand sanitizer stations in every public area and staff all have sanitizer and wipes at their work stations.

Definitely putting my mind at ease.
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Canada, doing it right. Love.
 
This is a sobering, math based analysis of the potential impact on US healthcare infrastructure if the virus tracks here as it is currently doing so in Italy. Posits that there would no hospital beds left as of early May. A key point is that the way the virus is currently behaving, a large part of the population could get severely impacted, very quickly, effectively crippling our healthcare system. If that happens, it would be alarming in my view, and would impact so many of us. You wouldn't need to get the virus to be impacted. Its not a prediction but a numbers based scenario analysis and there were assumptions made for the analysis that are surely up for debate.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com www.zerohedge.com

Seems like there is potential here for the impact to compound by the day if it cannot be contained. I'm getting increasingly concerned, mostly about an upcoming trip and what I can do to protect my family if that tipping point happens while we are traveling. I sense its all inevitable most of us will get this though, its going to be about timing and severity. 2 weeks ago I was curious, last week I was interested , now I'm monitoring.
 
Florida blue is waiving testing costs for Covid-19.

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Telling people to use virtual dr when possible.
 
Press release from the Life Care Center in Kirkland, WA. These numbers are awful.

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LightBright said:
Do not let your son come to Los Angeles. We’ve got 27,000 out of state and out of country runners here for the LA Marathon (1% from the countries of concern). Plus it was contracted in Las Vegas we know this, and many people in LA go in and out of Vegas, and we’ve had an LAX airport screener come down with it among several others. We have massive Asian tourism, 19,000 Chinese tourists a year. We have a large Iranian and Korean American population. Plus a ton of foreign travel. It’s clear that travelers are bringing the virus back and forth. Personally I would avoid LAX and LA in general if at all possible. I think they are undercounting and it’s likely been in the community for a month or more. Just my opinion but I think it’s a reasonable guess based on all the factors that LA is.
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Thank you for that! I was able to talk him out of it!!! Whew! Your info helped, so thanks!
 
Did my usual grocery shopping this morning. The store I go to is limiting household disinfectants and cold/flu meds to 5 per person which I think is fair.
House Cat said:
I will hold out my arms and laugh and shout “it’s glorious!!!!”
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:lol: Video please.

I have burning bowls of incense surrounding my mountain of TP and a gong by the toilet that I ring every time I use a piece.
 
I have to say as time goes on with this I get a little worried for DH because he is diabetic (type 2) with high blood pressure, he is on meds for both. Last year he was the only one of us to get the flu and he was really sick, somehow despite taking care of him and touching the same surfaces and remotes etc. I didn't get it.

I just read that there is a 36 year old female patient in severe respiratory distress from this virus, that's really concerning because up to this point it's been older people (which is bad, they are no less important) and the information coming out has been about how younger people have less to worry about but that's obviously not true.
 
StephanieLynn said:
I just read that there is a 36 year old female patient in severe respiratory distress from this virus, that's really concerning because up to this point it's been older people (which is bad, they are no less important) and the information coming out has been about how younger people have less to worry about but that's obviously not true.
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If she has no identified underlying conditions, I wonder if she smokes. I would surmise that anyone who smokes is at greater risk for any respiratory disease.
 
@Matata, the article was quite vague and didn't mention whether she was a smoker or had any underlying conditions but they had pictures of her in an isolation pod which was rather shocking. I wonder how often those are being used, from what I understand they are very expensive and one time use.
 
Bluegemz said:
Thank you for that! I was able to talk him out of it!!! Whew! Your info helped, so thanks!
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I am so glad to hear this. I know how difficult it can be to talk your kid (young and invincible) out of something. Kudos to your son for being a smart cookie.
 
Catering companies in the area are being hit hard. Many of them do catering for the larger companies that have asked all of their employees to work from home. Between that and fewer gatherings in general, some have already had to start laying off employees. Restaurants are being affected too. One number I have seen used (though not confirmed anywhere) is 50% reduction in restaurant business.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/co...s-forcing-layoffs/56SMEACGS5CIZMPS77KPPKJN4Q/
 
Jimmianne said:
I am so glad to hear this. I know how difficult it can be to talk your kid (young and invincible) out of something. Kudos to your son for being a smart cookie.
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Thank you...I will tell him. I feel relieved about it. The person he was suppose to go with is very upset and kinda throwing a tantrum. I just don’t get it!
 
Bluegemz said:
Thank you...I will tell him. I feel relieved about it. The person he was suppose to go with is very upset and kinda throwing a tantrum. I just don’t get it!
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I, also, was tremendously relieved that your son was persuaded not to go to LA.
 
@Bluegemz Many years ago before I had a child I taught high school history. When a teenage boy died in a car crash my supervisor, the mother of three teenagers, said, "They think they're immortal". That is probably the reason for the tantrum your son's friend is having. He just cannot believe that anything bad could happen to him.
 
www.businessinsider.com

A medical expert is going viral for a passionate post warning that mass panic about the coronavirus could do more damage than the disease itself

Abdu Sharkawy's post, shared more than 300,000 times, said the biggest danger is people's selfish behavior in a crisis.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com

I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.
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#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic
 
Arcadian said:
16 million people quarantined in Northern Italy

www.bbc.com

Coronavirus: Northern Italy quarantines 16 million people

A quarter of the population is in lockdown as Italy takes drastic action to control Covid-19.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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I read about that.

My dh and I are watching “Contagion” on Netflix. Scary but that’s about a much more deadly virus.

What’s scariest right now IMO is the overreacting and panicking masses which might prove more damaging than the actual Coronavirus. :(
 
Cases in the UK are now at 273 (an increase of 64 just from yesterday)!;(
 
So, I just got a call from CVS pharmacy to upgrade me to 3 month prescriptions. Basically if you can, you should indeed do it. I don't consider that panicking, but pretty sound considering.

Cigna who's my insurance company is somewhat more ambiguous than BCBS of Florida.
 
StephanieLynn said:
I have to say as time goes on with this I get a little worried for DH because he is diabetic (type 2) with high blood pressure, he is on meds for both. Last year he was the only one of us to get the flu and he was really sick, somehow despite taking care of him and touching the same surfaces and remotes etc. I didn't get it.

I just read that there is a 36 year old female patient in severe respiratory distress from this virus, that's really concerning because up to this point it's been older people (which is bad, they are no less important) and the information coming out has been about how younger people have less to worry about but that's obviously not true.
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diatribe.org

Coronavirus Preparation Strategies for People with Diabetes

diaTribe is a non-profit organization providing free cutting-edge diabetes management tips from diet and exercise, to ways to avoid diabetes complications.
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I really appreciated this woman’s advice in this article.
 
House Cat said:
CNN keeps discussing the fact that there are many other cases of Coronavirus. Lack of test kits are keeping the numbers down. They wonder if Trump has done this on purpose for political reasons.

When we get the test kits we need next week, the numbers will explode
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Didn’t he basically admit this when he talked about the people on the cruise ship and how he didn’t want the numbers to go up?

I don’t think he was referring to these people spreading illness. I think he literally didn’t want the positive tests added the the US total. It’s kind of how he said it.

It’s a numbers game.
 
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