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chictomato

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Hi all, after some misunderstanding I had finally make my garnet purchase from Uli. It arrived safe and sound, but once I open the box, it just dropped straight down onto the floor
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and the pavilion is chipped along the entire meet
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OMG!!!! I sent an email immediately to Uli, hoping that he can help salvage the situation. Here are some picts, do let me know if you think that anything can be done? or its a gone case...........

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I''m sorry this is very upsetting.
 
How awful. I am so sorry.
 
Oh my gosh! I''m so sorry that happened. I really hope that Uli can help.
 
Oh NO!!! I''m so sorry this happened. Is the damage visible from the table? Worst case scenario, if he can''t fix it, it might not be visible if you set it. I hope he can fix it though. Keep us posted.
 
ohhh..sh*t..damn..my very first cut stone i dropped and chipped the girdle..first day i had it..needless to say i have gotten better holding them..sorry to hear that chic..find out what Uli says..if you want it repaired I am sure Tony the gem doctor or Wayne Emery might be able to look at it..I don''t know cost ratio on a recut vs. the price of the stone
 
Oh that''s terrible! I''m sorry this happened to your lovely stone
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Ugh, what an awful thing to have happen - I feel so bad for you, chictomato! I''m keeping my fingers crossed that it can be fixed.
 
Oh no!!! So so sorry to hear that and hope it can be corrected.
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I''m so so sorry to read this. It just stinks. Hope it can be fixed or won''t be visible in a setting. Good luck and best wishes.
 
I really feel for you...

I once dropped a brand new stone and it bounced around and down the drain - gone forever

so I know just how you feel

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hopefully something can be done to rectify the chip or maybe it won''t show once set
 
This is awful, I too chipped my Mahenge spinel on the pavilion just a couple of months ago.
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Thank you guys! I really appreciate all the replies. Uli has not reply. I shall keep you guys update! I Yes, you can tell from it face down, there is this fuzziness.
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Hi there, Uli had replied. here''s what he said ''I´m afraid this isn´t possible because the chip goes into the girdle. The almandite would have to be completely recutted and that means to loose addiitional 50% of the substance. What I could offer you is to come a step to you and cut a new in this size and quality for the special price.'' He also mentioned to always use a pad on your desk, never open a box over a stone/concrete ground. Use something like cork or gum that reduces skipping of the gems. I really appreciate his kind offer. But I don''t think that I will be making another of the same purchase. So what can I do with this chipped garnet?? I don''t think that I would wanna customize a mount to fit it, since its flawed.
 
Chic,
I don't think there's much you can do at this point except keep it as a specimen of a garnet. Hopefully it wasn't too expensive. I would be mortified if I chipped a stone worth hundreds or thousands of dollars, so at least there's some comfort in that. His cutlets are very sharp, so I can see that extra care must be taken not to drop them. Can you post a photo of it from the table? I'd like to see the "fuzziness" as you call it.

Once again, really sorry this happened.
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A dreadful thing.
I am wondering though, since uli thinks you would lose so much cutting the chip out if instead you could put more chips in! Of course I''m suggesting having a concave facet cut right over the break and then from there all around. Might even preserve the face up size.
 
Date: 5/1/2010 8:28:41 AM
Author: tourmaline_lover
Chic,

I don''t think there''s much you can do at this point except keep it as a specimen of a garnet. Hopefully it wasn''t too expensive. I would be mortified if I chipped a stone worth hundreds or thousands of dollars, so at least there''s some comfort in that. His cutlets are very sharp, so I can see that extra care must be taken not to drop them. Can you post a photo of it from the table? I''d like to see the ''fuzziness'' as you call it.


Once again, really sorry this happened.
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Thanks for the reply TL, I will post some photos tomorrow!

Hi VApid! Yes, I just took a close look at it a moment ago and the exact same thoughts ran thru my mind! I know nothing about gem cutting, and I am so glad that a professional like you think there is a possibility! However, I had checked with Uli before, he does not cut concave. So who can I approach to repair this garnet at a modest price?TIA!
 
Date: 5/1/2010 6:10:17 AM
Author: chictomato
Hi there, Uli had replied. here''s what he said ''I´m afraid this isn´t possible because the chip goes into the girdle. The almandite would have to be completely recutted and that means to loose addiitional 50% of the substance. What I could offer you is to come a step to you and cut a new in this size and quality for the special price.'' He also mentioned to always use a pad on your desk, never open a box over a stone/concrete ground. Use something like cork or gum that reduces skipping of the gems. I really appreciate his kind offer. But I don''t think that I will be making another of the same purchase. So what can I do with this chipped garnet?? I don''t think that I would wanna customize a mount to fit it, since its flawed.
I''m so sorry this happened. You must be sick about it. I didn''t see it in the thread - what are the dimensions? Would it fit in a stock setting? How about a pendant?
 
Im not sure about this but I think that Dan Stair is now doing concave cuts.
 
Date: 5/1/2010 11:19:40 AM
Author: colorluvr
Date: 5/1/2010 6:10:17 AM

Author: chictomato

Hi there, Uli had replied. here's what he said 'I´m afraid this isn´t possible because the chip goes into the girdle. The almandite would have to be completely recutted and that means to loose addiitional 50% of the substance. What I could offer you is to come a step to you and cut a new in this size and quality for the special price.' He also mentioned to always use a pad on your desk, never open a box over a stone/concrete ground. Use something like cork or gum that reduces skipping of the gems. I really appreciate his kind offer. But I don't think that I will be making another of the same purchase. So what can I do with this chipped garnet?? I don't think that I would wanna customize a mount to fit it, since its flawed.

I'm so sorry this happened. You must be sick about it. I didn't see it in the thread - what are the dimensions? Would it fit in a stock setting? How about a pendant?


Ya I was super sick at the moment, but am feeling much better now
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Thanks! By the way, what is a 'stock setting'? I do not like pendant as I dislike wearing chain. its approx 7.7mm:)

Vapid- Really! Ok I am off to Dan now Byebye (keep you guys update
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) Thanks alot!
 
Hi CT,

I''d need more pics to be sure but I don''t think all''s lost here. I don''t see a 50% loss either. A lot depends on how the crown was cut and, if the chip does go into the girdle, would the crown be affected by recutting the girdle a bit. If not, a small recut of the pavillion may be all that''s needed with an angle of maybe a degree shallower, and of course a small re-do on the girdle. I''d like to see a pic of the crown and how the facets are set up on it. Garnet is a pretty forgiving stone for cutting and I usually start new cutters out on them. There''s still hope.

Pete
 
Sorry to hear about this! I''ve had 2 stones break recently (by the jewelers setting them), so I know how it feels.
 
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I''m so sorry! Hopefully the concave facet solution will help...
 
Date: 5/1/2010 11:23:14 AM
Author: chictomato




Date: 5/1/2010 11:19:40 AM
Author: colorluvr




Date: 5/1/2010 6:10:17 AM

Author: chictomato

Hi there, Uli had replied. here''s what he said ''I´m afraid this isn´t possible because the chip goes into the girdle. The almandite would have to be completely recutted and that means to loose addiitional 50% of the substance. What I could offer you is to come a step to you and cut a new in this size and quality for the special price.'' He also mentioned to always use a pad on your desk, never open a box over a stone/concrete ground. Use something like cork or gum that reduces skipping of the gems. I really appreciate his kind offer. But I don''t think that I will be making another of the same purchase. So what can I do with this chipped garnet?? I don''t think that I would wanna customize a mount to fit it, since its flawed.

I''m so sorry this happened. You must be sick about it. I didn''t see it in the thread - what are the dimensions? Would it fit in a stock setting? How about a pendant?


Ya I was super sick at the moment, but am feeling much better now
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Thanks! By the way, what is a ''stock setting''? I do not like pendant as I dislike wearing chain. its approx 7.7mm:)

Vapid- Really! Ok I am off to Dan now Byebye (keep you guys update
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) Thanks alot!
I was referring to a setting from a casting company like Adwar or Stuller that uses a peg head so you can use any shaped stone on the shank. (maybe I used the wrong term
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) That way, the only custom part would be the head and it wouldn''t cost as much as a full custom....

Hopefully you can salvage the stone and set it the way you want.
 
Colorlurv- Thanks a lot you have been really helpful:) However, I do not wanna spend more $$ on it/ or its setting before its fix (well, if it can be fix)!

Dan had replied he thinks the best bet, would probably be to have it recut as a round to get rid of that chipped off corner to save some money on setting the stone later. The second best bet would likely be to try and repair it by snubbing off all seven of the sharp points, adding seven new facets to the pavillion that reach all the way to the culet, and also modifying the crown so there are not thick spots on where the corners have been ground off. This could be done, but would be a challenge.

In either case, by the time you ship it to him, recut it, and ship it back, I''ll likely have more than the original purchase price invested in repairing it.

I do not wanna spend too much $$ on this garnet as I do find it a little dark to my liking (though the cutting is lovely) and on top of that it is does not cost alot in the first place
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Date: 5/1/2010 11:33:24 AM
Author: ruffysdad
Hi CT,


I''d need more pics to be sure but I don''t think all''s lost here. I don''t see a 50% loss either. A lot depends on how the crown was cut and, if the chip does go into the girdle, would the crown be affected by recutting the girdle a bit. If not, a small recut of the pavillion may be all that''s needed with an angle of maybe a degree shallower, and of course a small re-do on the girdle. I''d like to see a pic of the crown and how the facets are set up on it. Garnet is a pretty forgiving stone for cutting and I usually start new cutters out on them. There''s still hope.


Pete
Thanks to all for the consoling words
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Hi Pete! The chip goes thru the girdle, but barely touching the crown, its too tiny to focus with my camera, Here are some ''best'' shots. Do let me know what you think? I am looking at the best solution at the lowest cost
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Hi TL! - hopefully you can see the ''fuziness'' here

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Date: 5/1/2010 10:54:01 PM
Author: chictomato
Colorlurv- Thanks a lot you have been really helpful:) However, I do not wanna spend more $$ on it/ or its setting before its fix (well, if it can be fix)!

Dan had replied he thinks the best bet, would probably be to have it recut as a round to get rid of that chipped off corner to save some money on setting the stone later. The second best bet would likely be to try and repair it by snubbing off all seven of the sharp points, adding seven new facets to the pavillion that reach all the way to the culet, and also modifying the crown so there are not thick spots on where the corners have been ground off. This could be done, but would be a challenge.

In either case, by the time you ship it to him, recut it, and ship it back, I''ll likely have more than the original purchase price invested in repairing it.

I do not wanna spend too much $$ on this garnet as I do find it a little dark to my liking (though the cutting is lovely) and on top of that it is does not cost alot in the first place
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I agree, it might not be cost effective to repair it. If it were an expensive stone, then perhaps.
 
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