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Hi @lovedogs, my new pendant si1 is a very strong flourescent like the emerald si1. I was suprised at the range of "very strong". The pendant does not look that strong to me. I would have guessed a medium. Inclusions crystals, feathers
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MMtwo said:
Hi @lovedogs, my new pendant si1 is a very strong flourescent like the emerald si1. I was suprised at the range of "very strong". The pendant does not look that strong to me. I would have guessed a medium. Inclusions crystals, feathers
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Holy crap! So surprised!
 
Right?!

I love my crazy very strong blue emerald. This very strong round was wimpy in comparison!

Edit whoops, I can't read, this is just a strong - whew. I was concerned you would get something like this.
www.jamesallen.com

0.59 Carat round diamond

This 0.59 carat round diamond E color si1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com

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MMtwo said:
Right?!

I love my crazy very strong blue emerald. This very strong round was wimpy in comparison!

Edit whoops, I can't read, this is just a strong - whew. I was concerned you would get something like this.
www.jamesallen.com

0.59 Carat round diamond

This 0.59 carat round diamond E color si1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA
www.jamesallen.com www.jamesallen.com

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Yeah, that's so interesting!
 
Ooooo dat's niiiiice
 
lovedogs said:
@Karl_K @Rockdiamond

Theres a stone from a vendor that has "faint" fluor, but looks like this under UV. How is that possible?

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I have seen a stone in person that was GIA none under the gia grading lights that was that blue under sunlight.
We tested it with a bunch of different UV sources and some wavelengths it reacted greatly and some it didn't.
So if everything is on the up and up with the pic and it could be the answer is its reacting to different wavelengths of UV,
Arguably GIA publicly uses the wrong wavelength.
 
I have a faint blue K that looks more blue in the sun than my medium fluor L. Much bluer. Both GIA graded, both step cuts.
 
Karl_K said:
I have seen a stone in person that was GIA none under the gia grading lights that was that blue under sunlight.
We tested it with a bunch of different UV sources and some wavelengths it reacted greatly and some it didn't.
So if everything is on the up and up with the pic and it could be the answer is its reacting to different wavelengths of UV,
Arguably GIA publicly uses the wrong wavelength.
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ok--at least that makes a bit of sense. I almost was doubting that it was the same stone. Just to be careful I'll likely ask for a pic of the inscription.
 
Karl_K said:
I have seen a stone in person that was GIA none under the gia grading lights that was that blue under sunlight.
We tested it with a bunch of different UV sources and some wavelengths it reacted greatly and some it didn't.
So if everything is on the up and up with the pic and it could be the answer is its reacting to different wavelengths of UV,
Arguably GIA publicly uses the wrong wavelength.
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This makes sense. It’s understandable that the labs have to pick a wavelength but there are so many neat optical effects (+ undesirable ones) that consumers can’t discern.
 
oncrutchesrightnow said:
This makes sense. It’s understandable that the labs have to pick a wavelength but there are so many neat optical effects (+ undesirable ones) that consumers can’t discern.
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Historically GIA and many other industries used what they did based on what was available and it became the standard.
These days if you want to pay for it you can get narrow band UV leds in ~10nm increments.
The cheap ones are around 400nm which works well for most UV reactive diamonds but there are exceptions.
 
lovedogs said:
ok--at least that makes a bit of sense.
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I am trying to decide if that is a compliment or not. LOL

But yea check the inscription and return policy.
 
Karl_K said:
I am trying to decide if that is a compliment or not. LOL

But yea check the inscription and return policy.
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lolllll no it's a huge compliment! I had no idea what was going on, and was afraid I was looking at a different stone. But your explanation makes me feel better :)
 
I have no idea what’s going on…. But that pic is wack
 
@freddyboston what do you think of these, and can you look them up on idexx to see if listings say milky?

www.rarecarat.com

0.31 Carat Natural Diamond, Round Cut, VVS2, F Color, GIA Certified

Round cut, 0.31 carat natural diamond, certified by GIA. F color and VVS2 clarity. Priced at $373, 50% lower than our fair price estimate.
www.rarecarat.com www.rarecarat.com

www.rarecarat.com

0.50 Carat Natural Diamond, Round Cut, SI1, D Color, GIA Certified

Round cut, 0.50 carat natural diamond, certified by GIA. D color and SI1 clarity. Priced at $891, 37% lower than our fair price estimate.
www.rarecarat.com www.rarecarat.com
 
If you find "the one" what will you do with it?
 
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Probably Very Strong is best effect but here's a .60 D Light Milky Strong
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www.rarecarat.com

0.60 Carat Natural Diamond, Round Cut, SI2, D Color, GIA Certified

Round cut, 0.60 carat natural diamond, certified by GIA. D color and SI2 clarity. Priced at $714, 57% lower than our fair price estimate.
www.rarecarat.com www.rarecarat.com

A .40 H Si1 Light Milky Very Strong
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0.40 Carat Natural Round H SI1 Ex GIA certified 21820972

www.b2cjewels.com www.b2cjewels.com

For fun... here's a 4ct I Si2 Light Milky Strong 60/60.....
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4.01 Carat Natural ROUND I SI2 Ex GIA certified 25566956

www.b2cjewels.com www.b2cjewels.com
 
freddyboston said:
Probably Very Strong is best effect but here's a .60 D Light Milky Strong
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www.rarecarat.com

0.60 Carat Natural Diamond, Round Cut, SI2, D Color, GIA Certified

Round cut, 0.60 carat natural diamond, certified by GIA. D color and SI2 clarity. Priced at $714, 57% lower than our fair price estimate.
www.rarecarat.com www.rarecarat.com

A .40 H Si1 Light Milky Very Strong
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0.40 Carat Natural Round H SI1 Ex GIA certified 21820972

www.b2cjewels.com www.b2cjewels.com

For fun... here's a 4ct I Si2 Light Milky Strong 60/60.....
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4.01 Carat Natural ROUND I SI2 Ex GIA certified 25566956

www.b2cjewels.com www.b2cjewels.com
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I really like the D si1, but yeah I'm nervous that strong fluor won't give the weird look I'm hoping for.

Sucks that the 2 i found aren't listed! So annoying. It would be easier to be confident if I could see that the vendor labeled it milky.
 
I'm not really sure if these would work but thought I'd play:



 
over 1ct and $$$ pricey for a milky VSB.... but here's a very strong F..... the studio lights are killing the contrast in the arrows so must be something @ UV sunlight... decent cut..

@ $3k or so I'd probably buy it myself :)

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www.briangavindiamonds.com

1.130 F VS1 Virtual Selection Round Diamond

Brian Gavin Diamonds
www.briangavindiamonds.com www.briangavindiamonds.com
 
I suspect a uv torch on the stone outside. Check out light reflections on tweasers.
 
lovedogs, what is the weird look you're seeking? I like inclusions and fluor but your taste is way more evolved.
 
Ibrakeforpossums said:
lovedogs, what is the weird look you're seeking? I like inclusions and fluor but your taste is way more evolved.
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This video (@Rhino it's you!) shows a comparison of an "overblue" vs "regular blue". I am seeking something like the "overblue", except potentially even milkier/hazier in direct sunlight.

www.goodoldgold.com

The Often Misunderstood Subject of Diamond Fluorescence

Discover the truth about Diamond fluorescence as we dispell myths surrounding the diamond fluorescence. Read our complete guides on diamonds and the diamond process.
www.goodoldgold.com www.goodoldgold.com

Didn't read this article, but basically a stone like the first pic where it's clearly kind of milky/hazy so it'll look weird in direct sunlight:

Does Fluorescence Cause Milkiness, Haziness Or Transparency Issues?

An age old question when selecting a diamond - Does fluorescence cause a milky or cloudy appearance? Would strong fluorescence make a diamond look cloudy?
beyond4cs.com beyond4cs.com
 
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