Muzo Emeralds on IG

[VividRed]

Has anyone dealt with George Smith (muzoemeralds on IG)? I’ve been sending messages and emails and haven’t had any luck yet. He has an amazing page but I find it difficult to do business with a vendor that doesn’t respond.

Is there a password I don’t know?

 

[musicloveranthony]

I've had good luck with JR Colombian Emeralds

JR COLOMBIAN EMERALDS (@colombianemeralds) • Instagram photos and videos

www.instagram.com

 

[T L]

Someone did buy a gem from George, and I must admit, he has the most gorgeous emeralds I've seen on IG, besides BG stones. However, I think she got a chipped gem, so we have to make sure that is true. I think if you search the forum, you may see the thread. I think he gave her a discount, if I remember correctly AFTER the stone got to her. She was afraid of the huge hassle of returning it to Columbia.

JR has some nice stones, but I really love BG and Muzoemeralds. Maybe others can make some recommendations.

 

[demantoidz]

avi.emeralds also has some gorgeous material, eg...

Avi-Colombian Emeralds on Instagram: "3.88. it will be extremely hard to challenge a stone like this for it's quality. Very few such stones exist. . . . . #emerald #emeralds #colombianemerald #invest #investment #finegems #finejewelry #highjewelry #h

114 likes, 2 comments - avi.emeralds on January 18, 2022: "3.88. it will be extremely hard to challenge a stone like this for it's quality. Very few such stones exist. . . . . #emerald #emeralds #colombianemerald #invest #investment #finegems #finejewelry #highjewelry #highend #hautejoaillerie...

www.instagram.com

Never dealt with them so can't exactly recommend them

 

[T L]

BG was in Tuscon and attends the shows annually. Plane ticket???

 

[Autumn in New England]

Has anyone dealt with George Smith (muzoemeralds on IG)? I’ve been sending messages and emails and haven’t had any luck yet. He has an amazing page but I find it difficult to do business with a vendor that doesn’t respond.

Is there a password I don’t know?

That is very strange, because George is always so responsive. Usually he'll send a voice memo if he's traveling and can't type. Hopefully everything is ok. Give it another go! It will be worth it.

 

[yssie]

George has always been very responsive with me (even though I’ve yet to actually buy anything!) - maybe reach out one more time?

 

[Autumn in New England]

Someone did buy a gem from George, and I must admit, he has the most gorgeous emeralds I've seen on IG, besides BG stones. However, I think she got a chipped gem, so we have to make sure that is true. I think if you search the forum, you may see the thread. I think he gave her a discount, if I remember correctly AFTER the stone got to her. She was afraid of the huge hassle of returning it to Columbia.

JR has some nice stones, but I really love BG and Muzoemeralds. Maybe others can make some recommendations.

Was this Atwater's stone, T L? I've been drooling over that beauty. In fact, after seeing it, I decided it was time for a new one. lol You crazy bunch of enablers.

 

[T L]

Was this Atwater's stone, T L? I've been drooling over that beauty. In fact, after seeing it, I decided it was time for a new one. lol You crazy bunch of enablers.

I honestly don't remember. I would search the forum.

Yes, we're bad

 

[Autumn in New England]

I honestly don't remember. I would search the forum.

Yes, we're bad

Oh ok, hopefully it's not that one then. I recall her being really pleased with it!

 

[Neptune]

Colombian emerald - Thoughts please !!

Thanks to everyone on the community for all their advice so far, it's been a treasure trove ! Considering a 3ct+ Colombian Muzo emerald from one of the vendors (they're not on the usual list of recommended vendors). The stone is SSEF certified to be free of any treatment, origin confirmed...

www.pricescope.com

Emerald earrings from Muzo (George)

Hi everyone, I know most people here buy loose stones and then set them, but I don't have any design creds and am still sitting on the few loose stones I bought years ago so.... just wanted to post about a finished piece that should be on it's way to me very soon. I think the forum is pretty...

www.pricescope.com

 

[ShinyPink]

After looking at his IG, the only thing I can afford right now are the marijuana carvings.

 

[Snowbebe]

He has always been super responsive and nice. Maybe reach out to him again?

I honestly don't remember. I would search the forum.

Yes, we're bad

T L, asking for your expert opinion. I asked about a no-oil Muzo emerald. Top color (old mine) but There is a small open fissure around the girdle from the pavilion. Good clarity otherwise from the table. Is it worth paying a premium for a no oil stone with a fissure like this? Sorry no photos with me right now.

 

[T L]

He has always been super responsive and nice. Maybe reach out to him again?

T L, asking for your expert opinion. I asked about a no-oil Muzo emerald. Top color (old mine) but There is a small open fissure around the girdle from the pavilion. Good clarity otherwise from the table. Is it worth paying a premium for a no oil stone with a fissure like this? Sorry no photos with me right now.

Does it have a reputable lab report?

 

[Autumn in New England]

He has always been super responsive and nice. Maybe reach out to him again?

T L, asking for your expert opinion. I asked about a no-oil Muzo emerald. Top color (old mine) but There is a small open fissure around the girdle from the pavilion. Good clarity otherwise from the table. Is it worth paying a premium for a no oil stone with a fissure like this? Sorry no photos with me right now.

I know you were specifically asking T L, and she's more than capable of handling this one on her own. But I was just curious if you have a photo of the fissure? For me, it wouldn't be an issue of clarity as much as I would just be concerned with the integrity and durability of the stone.

 

[T L]

He has always been super responsive and nice. Maybe reach out to him again?

T L, asking for your expert opinion. I asked about a no-oil Muzo emerald. Top color (old mine) but There is a small open fissure around the girdle from the pavilion. Good clarity otherwise from the table. Is it worth paying a premium for a no oil stone with a fissure like this? Sorry no photos with me right now.

I would also be very apprehensive about anyone offering an “old mine” stone, especially with high clarity and no treatment. You could expect to pay several tens of thousands per carat for such a stone. You may be able to afford that, but I would only go with the best and most reputable emerald dealers for such a top stone. And never ever expect less than two highly reputable full lab reports in this case.

 

[VividRed]

He has always been super responsive and nice. Maybe reach out to him again?

T L, asking for your expert opinion. I asked about a no-oil Muzo emerald. Top color (old mine) but There is a small open fissure around the girdle from the pavilion. Good clarity otherwise from the table. Is it worth paying a premium for a no oil stone with a fissure like this? Sorry no photos with me right now.

No response, neither on IG nor via e-mail. That’s so annoying…

 

[Autumn in New England]

I would also be very apprehensive about anyone offering an “old mine” stone, especially with high clarity and no treatment. You could expect to pay several tens of thousands per carat for such a stone. You may be able to afford that, but I would only go with the best and most reputable emerald dealers for such a top stone. And never ever expect less than two highly reputable full lab reports in this case.

Absolutely... I'd want a recent LMHC lab report stating origin and no CE. And then you definitely want to make sure that fissure doesn't compromise the stone's integrity. Emerald has good cleavage (I still giggle when saying that), so it's prone to fracture along growth planes, especially if there's already a parting in the crystal. No one asked for my opinion, lol, but I just love this topic so much, I couldn't resist. Excuse the intrusion!

 

[Snowbebe]

Does it have a reputable lab report?

Yes!!! AGL

 

[Snowbebe]

I know you were specifically asking T L, and she's more than capable of handling this one on her own. But I was just curious if you have a photo of the fissure? For me, it wouldn't be an issue of clarity as much as I would just be concerned with the integrity and durability of the stone.

Thank you for responding! I get what you are saying. Most of the muzo emeralds I saw were included in comparison to chivor ones. Maybe that’s why most are clarity enhanced. I will try to find the photo once I get my kids to sleep.

 

[Autumn in New England]

Thank you for responding! I get what you are saying. Most of the muzo emeralds I saw were included in comparison to chivor ones. Maybe that’s why most are clarity enhanced. I will try to find the photo once I get my kids to sleep.

Oh yeah, Muzo material definitely tends to be more included than Chivor. But the latter's color and saturation doesn't compare, in my opinion. Look forward to seeing your pic!

 

[Atwater]

Someone did buy a gem from George, and I must admit, he has the most gorgeous emeralds I've seen on IG, besides BG stones. However, I think she got a chipped gem, so we have to make sure that is true. I think if you search the forum, you may see the thread. I think he gave her a discount, if I remember correctly AFTER the stone got to her. She was afraid of the huge hassle of returning it to Columbia.

JR has some nice stones, but I really love BG and Muzoemeralds. Maybe others can make some recommendations.

That someone is me, and yes I got a chipped gem. I actually met with George when he visited US and viewed several emeralds. Among them, I liked the one I now have much more than others; it was the one. I did not notice the chip then and only noticed it after the stone's trip from George to AGL and then to me. However, when I looked closely at the pictures I took during the meeting, I saw the chip was already there. George did not disclose any chip during the whole process; I think it was possible he did not know either.

George was not surprised (or did not show surprise) when I contacted him about the chip. He said it can be easily polished out. He offered return with full refund or free polish. I was not keen on sending it back all the way to Columbia. Per this community's suggestion, I also contacted someone in US about the chip and he also said a simple polish would do and quoted a low-to-me price (don't remember the details). Since I really liked the stone and can barely notice it with naked eye, I decided to keep the stone.

At the very early stage of having David Klass setting the stone, I disclosed the chip and asked his opinion. He thought the chip would not show once the stone is set and the ring would protect the chip. I went ahead and have the stone set without polishing the chip. After I got the finished ring, I louped it very carefully and could not see the chip. So yeah, the chip is there hidden, and I am very happy with the ring. I do not think I will ever sell the ring, but if I do, I promise I will disclose the hidden chip.

I still follow George's IG to admire the emeralds; however, I don't think he can be aware of each stone's status (defects etc). So I think the buyers need to be very careful themselves. In my communication with him, he has always been responsive, including when I contacted him about the chip.

I found another IG esmeralda_gems specialized in emeralds; they are located in LA, which makes a lot of things much easier. I have no idea of their pricing but it may be worthwhile to visit them when visiting LA.

 

[GeliL]

I've gotten a ring and a pendant from him. George is very nice and he will help you find the stuff you want within your budget. He is also on telegram, where he can send better photos and videos.

I will say that the ring I got also seemed chipped, which neither of us seemed to notice at first either. I checked the ring and checked the certificate and was sure that it was ceritified that way with the chip. He also apologized and offered a full refund. When I asked about sending it back to him, he just refunded me the money and said I could keep it. It was not an expensive ring, but still. I think even though there are errors and he's not always super attentative to the stones he sells (there's probably a lot of them), he owns up to it and provides good communication, so I am willing to buy again.

The pendant I already got also had a nick on the edge of one of the facets, but I decided to not reach out and kept it since it's very tiny, I am not sure if it was me who nicked it or if it came that way, plus I love the stone very much.

 

[Atwater]

Was this Atwater's stone, T L? I've been drooling over that beauty. In fact, after seeing it, I decided it was time for a new one. lol You crazy bunch of enablers.

Oh ok, hopefully it's not that one then. I recall her being really pleased with it!

Yes, it is my emerald. I was of course very upset with the chip. But I liked the stone very much and decided to keep it.

And yes, I am really happy with the finished ring; it is far from perfect, but I love it

 

[Autumn in New England]

Yes, it is my emerald. I was of course very upset with the chip. But I liked the stone very much and decided to keep it.

And yes, I am really happy with the finished ring; it is far from perfect, but I love it

You should be! It's a stunner!! Thank you for filling us in on the details. Minor surface imperfections are bound to happen with emeralds, even in high-quality Muzo material. As long as it doesn't affect the durability or detract from the overall beauty of the stone, it's perfectly acceptable in my opinion. Enjoy that bauble!!

 

[VividRed]

Am I doing something wrong? He is completely ignoring me for no apparent reason…

 

[T L]

Am I doing something wrong? He is completely ignoring me for no apparent reason…

Welcome to the world of Instagram!! That’s why I avoid it like the plague. Some dealers are decent, but overall, it’s an annoying place to shop. Of the few times I wasn’t ignored, I offered to buy a stone from someone once, she told me she would send me an invoice and ended up selling it to someone else. I actually prefer a cart/checkout process like Etsy or eBay. Instagram to me, is just a gallery. I also hate seeing gems that are “for sale” when they’ve already been sold. They have no incentive to have good customer service as there is no accountability or rating system.

Sorry about the rant…

 

[budmanbudman10]

I've found George to be much more responsive via WhatsApp or Telegram. When I first reached out on both IG and WhatsApp, he replied to me on WhatsApp much faster. I bought my minor oil Muzo from him and love it! He shipped to AGL and then on to me - no hassle at all. Once you get in touch with him, I'm sure it'll be a great experience!

 

[demantoidz]

Welcome to the world of Instagram!! That’s why I avoid it like the plague. Some dealers are decent, but overall, it’s an annoying place to shop. Of the few times I wasn’t ignored, I offered to buy a stone from someone once, she told me she would send me an invoice and ended up selling it to someone else. I actually prefer a cart/checkout process like Etsy or eBay. Instagram to me, is just a gallery. I also hate seeing gems that are “for sale” when they’ve already been sold. They have no incentive to have good customer service as there is no accountability or rating system.

Sorry about the rant…

Honestly don't think I will ever lose my IG buying virginity. As tempted as I could be by the right stone. As someone else put it in a thread with a this topic, I'm not that desperate. It makes me wonder if I should never post an IG vendor to an interested buyer here on PS (even with cautioning them, and with the vendor having a good reputation).

 

[T L]

Honestly don't think I will ever lose my IG buying virginity. As tempted as I could be by the right stone. As someone else put it in a thread with a this topic, I'm not that desperate. It makes me wonder if I should never post an IG vendor to an interested buyer here on PS (even with cautioning them, and with the vendor having a good reputation).

Let me just state that sometimes, if you go on the particular vendor’s IG home page, you may find a link to Etsy or their own website. If so, you may want to contact or purchase from them through those sites instead. Now I have successfully purchased items from IG vendors, but not through IG, but Etsy instead.


I even got chewed out from a vendor because I asked for videos, and then I opted against purchasing. He said he could have saved time not sending me videos. I mean, what gives you the right to think that somebody’s going to automatically buy something from you, just because you send them a video.l?!

I do want give a huge shout out to Earth’sTtreasury though. They were on IG and did send me videos, and they were not angry with me when I did not buy anything, but very patient, honest, informative and kind.