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Date: 12/7/2008 1:46:19 PM
Author: dbsdiamonds
It''s best to have one identify all the options available in your quality and budget, then sort them on price. From there analyze depth/table percents and definitely identify the proper overall measurements to maximize the size of the diamond. Then isolate on polish/symmetry/fluorescence and it''ll be apparent what the best few diamonds are in the ENTIRE industry, not just the few someone may hold.

Marty
Diamond Brokerage Service, Inc
www.dbsdiamonds.com
''See it, we beat it''
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Oh boy, at it again Marty? sheeshh..
 
Also, the contacts I have at ERD and GOG are not Mark and Jon- it''s Gary and Sarah.

Has anyone worked with them before and given the importance of "having an eye" for fancy cuts, should I really ask for Mark and Jon? Would that be rude?

Thanks...
 
Date: 12/10/2008 9:00:32 PM
Author: RoadChe
Also, the contacts I have at ERD and GOG are not Mark and Jon- it's Gary and Sarah.

Has anyone worked with them before and given the importance of 'having an eye' for fancy cuts, should I really ask for Mark and Jon? Would that be rude?

Thanks...
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I recently purchased a stone from GOG, and believe me, if the contact you are working with can't answer a particular question, they call over Jon right away. It's not that big a place. I expect even if you are working with someone else, Mark and Jon will be the ones checking out the stones.
 
Thanks- that makes sense.

I will post up some specs and pictures when I receive them!
 
Hi All- got my first picture in today (of one option)- unfortunately it is the only picture I have at the moment, but I hope to get a few more.

This is a 2.2 F VS1.

Any thoughts? Is there another type of picture I should request to better judge the fire/brilliance from an emerald cut?

THANKS!

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Date: 12/11/2008 5:52:06 PM
Author: RoadChe
Hi All- got my first picture in today (of one option)- unfortunately it is the only picture I have at the moment, but I hope to get a few more.

This is a 2.2 F VS1.

Any thoughts? Is there another type of picture I should request to better judge the fire/brilliance from an emerald cut?

THANKS!
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Here is my only thought: Your working with GOG. Jon will not allow them to ship you a dud stone. This pic looks great, and if Jon picked it out (and I think he does with all his stones) you have found a winner!
 
Sorry, I should clarify. This one was not from GOG. I am working with a few vendors as they all seem to have access to different inventories.

Given your comment (it seems you were qualifying it based on the perceived vendor and not the picture), is there anything wrong that you can see?

Or anything to be wary of?
 
I am not an expert...and we really need ASAT images and more pics and a little if possible, a more clear image. With the budget you have hun, I highly recommend asking Jonathan to pick you out a few stones, and he''ll make videos for you to view and compare them side by side. Numbers are not going to find you the perfect stone because fancy cuts are judged by eyes.

I know your working with a number of vendors, but with fancy cuts you should really be talking to someone that can give you all the things you need, which include photographs, videos if necessary, but most of all, you need to trust their eyes because I KNOW Jonathan at GOG, Whiteflash, Mark at ERD, Wink, etc. I trust their eyes more than my own. If they says it''s a knockout...you have a winner!
 
RedRose229, I recently also got in touch with Bob at WhiteFlash- you mention you had experience with WF; did you work with Bob or someone else and how was your experience?

He seems very knowledgable and helpful. However, there were some concerns on this forum around some customer service issues. Granted, there are two sides of the coin, but interested to hear your perspective given your experience with multiple vendors.

Thanks!
 
Date: 12/12/2008 12:29:30 AM
Author: RoadChe
RedRose229, I recently also got in touch with Bob at WhiteFlash- you mention you had experience with WF; did you work with Bob or someone else and how was your experience?

He seems very knowledgable and helpful. However, there were some concerns on this forum around some customer service issues. Granted, there are two sides of the coin, but interested to hear your perspective given your experience with multiple vendors.

Thanks!
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i have bought from whiteflash and had no problems. i bought an EC and had a custom mounting done
 
To neatfreak, bebe, oldmancoyote, diamanteblu, redrose229, dbsdiamonds, fly girl, bgray, purrfect pear, emeraldlover1, mrs w, lorelei, arjunajane, stone-cold11, mediterranean, strmrdr, miss fortune, and richard sherwood (hopefully I did not forget anyone, but basically to everyone who helped out):

First off, thanks for all of your help on this post and my other:

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/confusing-pricing-need-to-decide-soon-help-emerald-cut.102071/

I ended up going with the 2.21 F VS1 emerald cut from Angara. It arrived Tuesday afternoon right on time and looked beautiful- since we had other packages coming in for the holidays, my gf (at the time) almost picked up this package by accident! The customer service received at Angara was amazing- my constant emails, phone calls, and even text messages, were answered timely and thoroughly, and my custom requests for additional pictures were well received and turned-around promptly.

I proposed Tuesday evening at the place my fiancee and I first met (we met on a dirt path walking on the way to the subway station and happened to strike up conversation from there, all the way on the subway until we got off at the same stop downtown), and she said yes.

The stone looks BEAUTIFUL, and the next step is to get the independent appraisal and have her choose a new setting for it (I got just the very basic initially). Since I saved a good amount going with the Angara stone, we will have a bit more budget on the setting! I''m sure I will be reaching out to the forums again. In the meantime, thanks again Pricescopers.

-RoadChe
 
congrates!!!!
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Hand shots???
 
Pictures attached!

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Another...

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And one last one!

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It looks amazing!! I sure happy you came back to post hand shots!
 
GORGEOUS!!!
 
It looks fantastic! What a pretty, pretty EC. Congratulations on your engagement!
 
RoadChe, it looks Mahvelous! You did a fabulous job of doing your research and choosing a great stone that you love (and I''m sure she does as well!) I love these types of threads! Bravo!
 
RoadChe- You did an amazing job! I am sure your fiance thinks so too! LOL. Just a stunner, I just hope she is ready for all of the hand-grabs she will be getting! People are going to want to take a close look at that beauty!
 
Ohhh, the ring came out great! I really love the profile of the setting.
 
Beautiful, beautiful diamond, and a great ring. I really have a soft spot for a big, beautiful EC.
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Congratulations on your engagement.
 
Date: 12/7/2008 4:00:53 PM
Author: purrfectpear

Date: 12/7/2008 3:37:50 PM
Author: Fly Girl
Diamonds by Lauren carries emerald cuts as well. He currently has a 2.76 ct E SI2 with stong blue fluor in your budget range. I''m kind of curious as to what others think of this stone. Link
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Diamonds by Lauren carries some extremely funky cuts. I''m not saying he isn''t capable of finding a decent stone, just that he carries a lot of junk and dresses it up with flowery descriptions. In addition there have been some posts on another forum from people who have felt less than satisfied. He certainly wouldn''t be my first choice.
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Hi purrfectpear,
Thank you for the honest opinion- can you please show us examples of what you''re talking about?
For example, the diamond posted by Fly Girl...is that ''Funky"?

All due respect, but I don''t feel that innuendo is appropriate. If you''re going to criticize a business, the responsible thing would be to actually show what you are talking about.
 
Date: 1/25/2009 11:15:44 AM
Author: Rockdiamond


Date: 12/7/2008 4:00:53 PM
Author: purrfectpear



Date: 12/7/2008 3:37:50 PM
Author: Fly Girl
Diamonds by Lauren carries emerald cuts as well. He currently has a 2.76 ct E SI2 with stong blue fluor in your budget range. I'm kind of curious as to what others think of this stone. Link
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Diamonds by Lauren carries some extremely funky cuts. I'm not saying he isn't capable of finding a decent stone, just that he carries a lot of junk and dresses it up with flowery descriptions. In addition there have been some posts on another forum from people who have felt less than satisfied. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
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Hi purrfectpear,
Thank you for the honest opinion- can you please show us examples of what you're talking about?
For example, the diamond posted by Fly Girl...is that 'Funky'?

All due respect, but I don't feel that innuendo is appropriate. If you're going to criticize a business, the responsible thing would be to actually show what you are talking about.
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Ditto.
 
Date: 1/25/2009 11:15:44 AM
Author: Rockdiamond
Date: 12/7/2008 4:00:53 PM

Author: purrfectpear


Date: 12/7/2008 3:37:50 PM

Author: Fly Girl

Diamonds by Lauren carries emerald cuts as well. He currently has a 2.76 ct E SI2 with stong blue fluor in your budget range. I'm kind of curious as to what others think of this stone. Link
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Diamonds by Lauren carries some extremely funky cuts. I'm not saying he isn't capable of finding a decent stone, just that he carries a lot of junk and dresses it up with flowery descriptions. In addition there have been some posts on another forum from people who have felt less than satisfied. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
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Hi purrfectpear,

Thank you for the honest opinion- can you please show us examples of what you're talking about?

For example, the diamond posted by Fly Girl...is that 'Funky'?


All due respect, but I don't feel that innuendo is appropriate. If you're going to criticize a business, the responsible thing would be to actually show what you are talking about.
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You asked.....
This one:
The term blue/white is illegal to use and the stone isn't that hot:

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond276ct-huge-esi2-emerald-cut-diamond-gia-report
Should I forward a copy of the page to the ftc for investigation?
 
Date: 1/25/2009 11:54:08 AM
Author: strmrdr


Date: 1/25/2009 11:15:44 AM
Author: Rockdiamond


Date: 12/7/2008 4:00:53 PM

Author: purrfectpear




Date: 12/7/2008 3:37:50 PM

Author: Fly Girl

Diamonds by Lauren carries emerald cuts as well. He currently has a 2.76 ct E SI2 with stong blue fluor in your budget range. I'm kind of curious as to what others think of this stone. Link
Click to expand...
Diamonds by Lauren carries some extremely funky cuts. I'm not saying he isn't capable of finding a decent stone, just that he carries a lot of junk and dresses it up with flowery descriptions. In addition there have been some posts on another forum from people who have felt less than satisfied. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
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Hi purrfectpear,

Thank you for the honest opinion- can you please show us examples of what you're talking about?

For example, the diamond posted by Fly Girl...is that 'Funky'?


All due respect, but I don't feel that innuendo is appropriate. If you're going to criticize a business, the responsible thing would be to actually show what you are talking about.
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You asked.....
This one:
The term blue/white is illegal to use and the stone isn't that hot:

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond276ct-huge-esi2-emerald-cut-diamond-gia-report
Should I forward a copy of the page to the ftc for investigation?
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Yes Storm, by all means forward the listing to FTC- maybe someone there is looking for an emerald cut.
Seriously- here's what I said

You could call this diamond "blue white". That's how amazingly, blindingly white this diamond is.
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I'm NOT describing it as "Blue White"- rather saying that it could be described that way. Of course we do go on to post a photo of the GIA report, and clearly identify the diamond as an "E" color.
Furthermore, you are tossing around words carelessly- such as the word "Illegal" That's irresponsible.
Based on your own post

It is unfair or deceptive to use the term "blue white" or any representation of similar meaning to describe any diamond that under normal, north daylight or its equivalent shows any color or any trace of any color other than blue or bluish.
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I do not believe our listing is in any way deceptive- as we clearly identify the color of the diamond. But even if you don;t like my description the word "illegal" is entirely inappropriate.
You then go on to declare that the 2.76 " isn't that hot"
I'm curious to know by what standard you make that statement.


It's fine if someone has an opinion- as this is a forum discussing diamonds- but as we're talking about here, innuendo is simply irresponsible.
Statements such as "Oh all his diamonds are hokey" are painting with a broad brush and also irresponsible.
 
Date: 1/25/2009 12:06:22 PM
Author: strmrdr
funky with an overblown description as stated above....
http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-210-ivvs2-emerald-cut-gia-great-cut
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Storm- this is just another example of bashing for no reason.
Please clarify what exactly is "overblown" about my description.
And again- please clarify why you call the diamond "Funky''"

I do LOVE funky things ( like "Tower of Power ie)- but you''re using the term in a pejorative manner with nothing to back it up.
 
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