Orange engagement ring

[rainydaze]

fishfrenzy, can I encourage you to reconsider the orange diamond that Neil posted?! That is *so* special, and it still fits her perfectly in terms of her wanting something small and non-conspicuous.

I love this setting by JA. It would make for a simple, pretty, sweet bring. This setting is only $580. Sometimes JA has a 25% off settings sale, and they also offer a discount off of most diamonds if you ask (tell them you are a PSer and looking for the discount, or they call it Advantage Pricing Program). It says for diamonds starting at .5ct though, so you'd have to ask if they could put the orange in it.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-scroll-basket-solitaire-item-53323

It would also look lovely in this simple setting, at $520
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/vintage/14k-white-gold-milgrain-bezel-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-53317

Oo, oo - this one says it can take diamonds starting at .3ct, and the side diamonds would really help highlight the orange color. Still within your max budget of 2k, at $650.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/14k-white-gold-tapered-pave-engagement-ring-item-58634

 

[E B]

I haven't seen a design like this before. Is it just called a surprise setting?

A 'surprise diamond' setting, usually. Or something like that.

Given you already have a diamond you want to use and an ideal budget of $1k, I'd put most of it toward a custom setting IF the surprise diamond/sapphire idea appeals to you. Esp. since it's a rose cut and may be a little trickier to set (and you want to customize the surprise stone). Maybe a bezel for the rose cut?

David Klass has already been recommended and I give him a +1, but if you decide to go custom, give him a call and let him know about your Dec. timeline. He's faster if you call.

 

[fishfrenzy]

fishfrenzy, can I encourage you to reconsider the orange diamond that Neil posted?! That is *so* special, and it still fits her perfectly in terms of her wanting something small and non-conspicuous.

I love this setting by JA. It would make for a simple, pretty, sweet bring. This setting is only $580. Sometimes JA has a 25% off settings sale, and they also offer a discount off of most diamonds if you ask (tell them you are a PSer and looking for the discount, or they call it Advantage Pricing Program). It says for diamonds starting at .5ct though, so you'd have to ask if they could put the orange in it.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-scroll-basket-solitaire-item-53323

It would also look lovely in this simple setting, at $520
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/vintage/14k-white-gold-milgrain-bezel-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-53317

Oo, oo - this one says it can take diamonds starting at .3ct, and the side diamonds would really help highlight the orange color. Still within your max budget of 2k, at $650.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/side-stones/14k-white-gold-tapered-pave-engagement-ring-item-58634

Maybe a two-stone ring? Old and new?

Something like this?

Or maybe this?

So many options. D:

 

[fishfrenzy]

I haven't seen a design like this before. Is it just called a surprise setting?

A 'surprise diamond' setting, usually. Or something like that.

Given you already have a diamond you want to use and an ideal budget of $1k, I'd put most of it toward a custom setting IF the surprise diamond/sapphire idea appeals to you. Esp. since it's a rose cut and may be a little trickier to set (and you want to customize the surprise stone). Maybe a bezel for the rose cut?

David Klass has already been recommended and I give him a +1, but if you decide to go custom, give him a call and let him know about your Dec. timeline. He's faster if you call.

A bezel as opposed to the prongs? That could be nice. I didn't realize that a rose cut could potentially be a problem to set.

I'll have to set aside some time to call Mr. Klass. He seems highly recommended.

 

[E B]

A bezel as opposed to the prongs? That could be nice. I didn't realize that a rose cut could potentially be a problem to set.

I'll have to set aside some time to call Mr. Klass. He seems highly recommended.

Here is a pic of bezeled rose cuts in different metals. I think the bezels suit rose cuts really nicely: http://i0.wp.com/offbeatbride.com/files/2015/11/new-Brilliant-Earth-rings.jpg?resize=800,572

 

[fishfrenzy]

A bezel as opposed to the prongs? That could be nice. I didn't realize that a rose cut could potentially be a problem to set.

I'll have to set aside some time to call Mr. Klass. He seems highly recommended.

Here is a pic of bezeled rose cuts in different metals. I think the bezels suit rose cuts really nicely: http://i0.wp.com/offbeatbride.com/files/2015/11/new-Brilliant-Earth-rings.jpg?resize=800,572

Ah, it looks quite nice in the bezel.

I spoke to someone at Lotus Colors (fancy-colored diamonds via irradiation or HPHT treatment) and they showed me these diamonds:

picture 1

picture 2

A little dark, no?

 

[minousbijoux]

Yes, unfortunately, both pairs do look dark.

 

[fishfrenzy]

Yes, unfortunately, both pairs do look dark.

A little disappointing since the website shows these super vibrant treated orange diamonds. Guess it's just not possible.

In the meantime I think I'm nearing a decision.

Option 1 - Three-stone ring setting with my diamond (4.2mm round rosecut) in the center and and two 4.0mm round sapphires, either from Etsy or Gemselect

Option 2 - Two-stone ring setting with my diamond (4.2mm round rosecut) and another orange gem around 4.2mm round, such as this sapphire or this diamond

I still haven't found the perfect setup though. I really appreciate everyone's help so far, and I'm sorry if it seems as though I'm dismissing some of your ideas.

 

[E B]

I still haven't found the perfect setup though. I really appreciate everyone's help so far, and I'm sorry if it seems as though I'm dismissing some of your ideas.

David K. may be able to source small orange sides for you. Worth asking!

 

[chroman]

It sounds like you might be headed in a different direction than initially, but it looks like the MC orange round is now $380, fwiw.

 

[fishfrenzy]

It sounds like you might be headed in a different direction than initially, but it looks like the MC orange round is now $380, fwiw.

I'm very torn. On the one hand I have this heirloom diamond that I'd like to incorporate into the ring, but on this other that MC sapphire is just calling out for a center position.

 

[Niel]

It sounds like you might be headed in a different direction than initially, but it looks like the MC orange round is now $380, fwiw.

I'm very torn. On the one hand I have this heirloom diamond that I'd like to incorporate into the ring, but on this other that MC sapphire is just calling out for a center position.

Wait you have an heirloom diamond?
I must have missed this. What size??

 

[fishfrenzy]

It sounds like you might be headed in a different direction than initially, but it looks like the MC orange round is now $380, fwiw.

I'm very torn. On the one hand I have this heirloom diamond that I'd like to incorporate into the ring, but on this other that MC sapphire is just calling out for a center position.

Wait you have an heirloom diamond?
I must have missed this. What size??

It's a round, rosecut diamond that is about 4.2mm by 2.7.

 

[chrono]

It's a round, rosecut diamond that is about 4.2mm by 2.7.

Is a Toi et Moi ring too radical?

 

[fishfrenzy]

It's a round, rosecut diamond that is about 4.2mm by 2.7.

Is a Toi et Moi ring too radical?

Not at all. I'd just have to find one with a bezel setting for the rosecut.

 

[Niel]

It's a round, rosecut diamond that is about 4.2mm by 2.7.

Is a Toi et Moi ring too radical?

Not at all. I'd just have to find one with a bezel setting for the rosecut.

Oh.man.

I hate to sound like a broken record. But use that rose cut, buy this orange diamond. We can point you to a vendor who could do you a moi et toi for your remaining 800
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008


It's definitely a rose cut? Seems deep for a rose cut?

 

[fishfrenzy]

It's a round, rosecut diamond that is about 4.2mm by 2.7.

Is a Toi et Moi ring too radical?

Not at all. I'd just have to find one with a bezel setting for the rosecut.

Oh.man.

I hate to sound like a broken record. But use that rose cut, buy this orange diamond. We can point you to a vendor who could do you a moi et toi for your remaining 800
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008


It's definitely a rose cut? Seems deep for a rose cut?

Rose cut is what the jeweler said. I'm afraid I can't tell one way or another.

Was also looking at this one for a Toi et Moi.

 

[Niel]

It's a round, rosecut diamond that is about 4.2mm by 2.7.

Is a Toi et Moi ring too radical?

Not at all. I'd just have to find one with a bezel setting for the rosecut.

Oh.man.

I hate to sound like a broken record. But use that rose cut, buy this orange diamond. We can point you to a vendor who could do you a moi et toi for your remaining 800
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008


It's definitely a rose cut? Seems deep for a rose cut?

Rose cut is what the jeweler said. I'm afraid I can't tell one way or another.

Was also looking at this one for a Toi et Moi.

You can get that one I linked for 1200, but honestly that other one works too. Whichever color you like better.
Does it look like the first or second photo below?

 

[chroman]

That orangy-pad round a ways back up is 4.1mm

That more saturated orange diamond looks like its going toward brown from the photo.

 

[fishfrenzy]

It's a round, rosecut diamond that is about 4.2mm by 2.7.

Is a Toi et Moi ring too radical?

Not at all. I'd just have to find one with a bezel setting for the rosecut.

Oh.man.

I hate to sound like a broken record. But use that rose cut, buy this orange diamond. We can point you to a vendor who could do you a moi et toi for your remaining 800
https://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/fancy-color/orange/round-cut/0.30-carat-si1-clarity-sku-543008


It's definitely a rose cut? Seems deep for a rose cut?

Rose cut is what the jeweler said. I'm afraid I can't tell one way or another.

Was also looking at this one for a Toi et Moi.

You can get that one I linked for 1200, but honestly that other one works too. Whichever color you like better.
Does it look like the first or second photo below?

Looks like the second photo. And now that I have a look at the profile of it it definitely looks like a rosecut.

That orangy-pad round a ways back up is 4.1mm

That more saturated orange diamond looks like its going toward brown from the photo.

Orangy-pad?

Oh no, you think so? It looks very orange to me from the photo, but I suppose it could be brownish in person.

 

[chroman]

On the diamond looking light brown, it could just be me

This was the 4.1 round I was talking about. Its a very unique orange (for better or worse!)
http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/gemstones/?sku=6025

 

[E B]

On the diamond looking light brown, it could just be me

This was the 4.1 round I was talking about. Its a very unique orange (for better or worse!)
http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/gemstones/?sku=6025

This would still leave a good amount for a custom bezel moi et toi, too.

 

[ElleK]

FYI, that pad sapphire looks to be sold, at least it is on Africa Gems' site.

 

[Sungura]

I know I'm late to the party -but here is an idea: a flip ring with your rose cut diamond on one side and an orange stone on the other. flip rings work well with small stones and nothing deep

Here is a link to one style. https://www.jewlr.com/flip-rings. If you are remotely interested I'll find some pictures of the other style

If you like the idea of an orange diamond I think you can even find a natural one. It would be fancy intense orangy yellow or yellowish orange. Here are four; three from diamonds by Lauren and the little heart is on Etsy

 

[fishfrenzy]

I know I'm late to the party -but here is an idea: a flip ring with your rose cut diamond on one side and an orange stone on the other. flip rings work well with small stones and nothing deep

Here is a link to one style. https://www.jewlr.com/flip-rings. If you are remotely interested I'll find some pictures of the other style

Seems like the flip ring is a little too easy to flip.

 

[E B]

Has anyone posted this one?

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/p-63022-round-unique-sapphire-u6402/

 

[fishfrenzy]

Has anyone posted this one?

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/p-63022-round-unique-sapphire-u6402/

I've actually contacted them about this sapphire already. It looks very nice! I'm trying to get a final pricing on the setting before pulling the trigger though, because I may be able to get an orange diamond plus the setting. If not, I could get this for now and maybe replace it with an orange diamond when I can fully afford it.

 

[FightGravity]

A moi et toi is a very specific look...and it seems to me you are saying she wants something delicate, and then looking at options that are...not.

Do you know if your girlfriend likes this style?

I would talk with her more specifically about what she might like. If you don't want to do that, since she wears NO jewelry, and has specifically requested small, I'd do a very delicate, low set bezel setting of the rose cut you already have. It's a very understated, elegant, easy to wear option. And will definitely be within budget!

Third choice would be same bezel setting, but with a small orange diamond or sapphire. I like the orange .31 JA round for this.

 

[fishfrenzy]

A moi et toi is a very specific look...and it seems to me you are saying she wants something delicate, and then looking at options that are...not.

Do you know if your girlfriend likes this style?

I would talk with her more specifically about what she might like. If you don't want to do that, since she wears NO jewelry, and has specifically requested small, I'd do a very delicate, low set bezel setting of the rose cut you already have. It's a very understated, elegant, easy to wear option. And will definitely be within budget!

Third choice would be same bezel setting, but with a small orange diamond or sapphire. I like the orange .31 JA round for this.

You don't think a toi et moi is simple? I mean it's different, that's for sure, but as far as some rings go it's still not a very ostentatious design.

I will consider going for just a single stone in a bezel design though. Thank you for your input!

 

[valeria101]

Take a look, if you still have any patience left,

http://www.ajsgem.com/sapphire/padparadscha-orange/orange-sapphire-2.56-carats.html

Small - that is, not individually discernible, inclusions are OK with me, else I wouldn't mention; at best they'd scatter light a little adding 'body' (like light mist does to air - but colored!). Can't know whether you'd like the thing... Sure seems ORANGE ! Few sapphires reach the zenith of this color - perhaps this one.

Another, on the light & bright side:

"pinkish-orange" http://www.starruby.in/store/padparadscha/1-61-carat-sparkling-unheated-fiery-orange-padparadscha-sapphire

"orangy-pink" http://www.starruby.in/store/padparadscha/1-10-carat-eye-clean-intense-orangy-pink-padparadscha-sapphire

I do not understand the orange end of "Padparadscha" - for what it matter$*... These things are too nice to go by 'Anon'.


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* Ref. "Just what is in a name?"
http://www.lotusgemology.com/index.php/library/articles/295-pink-sapphire-padparadscha-walking-the-line-in-ruby-sapphire-lotus-gemology