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LightBright said:
So, I wonder if the middle diamond was replaced at some point. It looks slightly warmer than its neighbors. But would be hard to replace such a thing. The cracks are inclusions, I think.

To be honest that price is very very good for an antique all old diamond convertible bracelet/necklace in original box (it looks like), If middle diamond is east J/K others are lighter I would have considered this one seriously! Ignore the inclusions and wear it like a queen. Moving around in that you’d never notice the inclusions IMO, it would be just lush,
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I'm not even sure I'd trust that colour estimate given that they estimated the clarity as VS-SI. It is a very nice bracelet/necklace conversion but if I was a buyer intending on using it as a bracelet it might be bothersome to some. But it's sold now so it's a relief for most of us haha but hoping that someone would post it here if they have bought it!
 
LightBright said:
So, I wonder if the middle diamond was replaced at some point. It looks slightly warmer than its neighbors. But would be hard to replace such a thing. The cracks are inclusions, I think.

To be honest that price is very very good for an antique all old diamond convertible bracelet/necklace in original box (it looks like), If middle diamond is est J/K others are lighter I would have considered this one seriously! Ignore the inclusions and wear it like a queen. Moving around in that you’d never notice the inclusions IMO, it would be just lush.

Also look at the sweet necklace extensions. They have little old cuts interspersed on the metal. Nice all around… imo
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Yes, I think the cracks are inclusions. Because feathers are inclusions, correct? I don’t think anybody is saying they aren’t inclusions unless I’m misinterpreting.

I think it’s absolutely gorgeous and yes, some people could definitely ignore it. BUT what I’m saying is that she said that this center stone was a VS - SI and it is clearly not. That is what gives me pause because you would be able to see that from the naked eye so my issue was that the vendor is calling it something that it is not.
 
LightBright said:
So, I wonder if the middle diamond was replaced at some point. It looks slightly warmer than its neighbors. But would be hard to replace such a thing. The cracks are inclusions, I think.

To be honest that price is very very good for an antique all old diamond convertible bracelet/necklace in original box (it looks like), If middle diamond is est J/K others are lighter I would have considered this one seriously! Ignore the inclusions and wear it like a queen. Moving around in that you’d never notice the inclusions IMO, it would be just lush.

Also look at the sweet necklace extensions. They have little old cuts interspersed on the metal. Nice all around… imo
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I'm with @Mreader . This would be a fab price if the diamonds, particularly the 1.5 ct center, were as described. The center stone is about the same size ( 7.31 mm) as the center of my five stone ring. There's no way that stone is eye clean.
 
Mreader said:
Yes, I think the cracks are inclusions. Because feathers are inclusions, correct? I don’t think anybody is saying they aren’t inclusions unless I’m misinterpreting.

I think it’s absolutely gorgeous and yes, some people could definitely ignore it. BUT what I’m saying is that she said that this center stone was a VS - SI and it is clearly not. That is what gives me pause because you would be able to see that from the naked eye so my issue was that the vendor is calling it something that it is not.
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Maybe my comment came across like I was challenging your assessment, which I agree totally with. Not my intention to be disagreeable so I really apologize if I came across wrong.

I agree the SI grade seems possibly too generous with those inclusions. It’s possibly an I1, IMO.

But, 12,750 for an eight carat graduated and matched diamond old cut bracelet in platinum (or was it gold), which then converts to a necklace, seems well worth it for this type of piece. I always assess the cutting costs, cut, color and size matching, jewelry design and benchwork, beautiful antique presentation box, etc.

My eyes are not great so tiny feathery cracks blend into the antique light show that I’m positive burst from this solid band of diamonds. As a youth I was afraid to choose antique diamonds with flaws, but now I realize some things only make themselves available once in a lifetime at an accessible price point. I guess I’m just rooting for the piece in and of itself.
 
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LightBright said:
Maybe my comment came across like I was challenging your assessment, which I agree totally with. Not my intention to be disagreeable so I really apologize if I came across wrong.

I agree the SI grade seems possibly too generous with those inclusions. It’s possibly an I1, IMO.

But, 12,750 for an eight carat graduated and matched diamond old cut bracelet in platinum (or was it gold), which then converts to a necklace, seems well worth it for this type of piece. I always assess the cutting costs, cut, color and size matching, jewelry design and benchwork, beautiful antique presentation box, etc.

My eyes are not great so tiny feathery cracks blend into the antique light show that I’m positive burst from this solid band of diamonds. As a youth I was afraid to choose antique diamonds with flaws, but now I realize some things only make themselves available once in a lifetime at an accessible price point. I guess I’m just rooting for the piece in and of itself.
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I hear what you are saying. I have plenty of old cuts with girdle nibs and some little black carbons.

My issue with this situation is more about the clarity representation than the actual piece itself. This piece requires a bare minimum of a 50% nonrefundable deposit. It should be accurately represented by the dealer. These are not small white inclusions that blend into the facets.

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lulu_ma said:
I hear what you are saying. I have plenty of old cuts with girdle nibs and some little black carbons.

My issue with this situation is more about the clarity representation than the actual piece itself. This piece requires a bare minimum of a 50% nonrefundable deposit. It should be accurately represented by the dealer. These are not small white inclusions that blend into the facets.

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This is where I’m at too @LightBright. Heck, I have a 2ct non certed stone that I have named Chippy because it has a chip in it! And I still bought it and love it and wear it proudly. This is all about the vendor.

A bracelet like this has been my wishlist for a long time :)
 
Sadly, I think it’s not uncommon for dealers to play fast and loose with specs.

I bought a ring with a diamond estimated “G/H VS,” but the back of the setting was completely covered in finger crust. :sick:

I can’t believe how lazy the dealer is to photograph the ring and sell it without cleaning the gunk, but I also figured that if the diamond looked damn good when dirty, it’ll blow my mind when it’s clean. :lol:
 
JPie said:
Sadly, I think it’s not uncommon for dealers to play fast and loose with specs.

I bought a ring with a diamond estimated “G/H VS,” but the back of the setting was completely covered in finger crust. :sick:

I can’t believe how lazy the dealer is to photograph the ring and sell it without cleaning the gunk, but I also figured that if the diamond looked damn good when dirty, it’ll blow my mind when it’s clean. :lol:
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Now I wanna see which ring this was!
 
I wouldn't have an issue wearing a diamond like that center stone, and even with that diamond in that condition the price is pretty amazing. Imagine the cost of making that yourself? But I agree, a stone with inclusions like that is definitely an I1 at best and it would have been better to disclose that.
 
Dreamer_D said:
I wouldn't have an issue wearing a diamond like that center stone, and even with that diamond in that condition the price is pretty amazing. Imagine the cost of making that yourself? But I agree, a stone with inclusions like that is definitely an I1 at best and it would have been better to disclose that.
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True, however, I don't think I'd notice the issue without a serious look. Benefit of old eyes. I guess for me, the seller seems to be one that people have trusted in the past, but I'd want to know that the stone wasn't in danger because of that large feather since wearing it as a bracelet would be more likely to damage it. Also, that the other stones were actually VS/Si. Replacing one, even a large one, might be okay because of the price point for the piece, but that wouldn't work for me if all the stones had issues that could make them vulnerable.
 
Lookinagain said:
True, however, I don't think I'd notice the issue without a serious look. Benefit of old eyes. I guess for me, the seller seems to be one that people have trusted in the past, but I'd want to know that the stone wasn't in danger because of that large feather since wearing it as a bracelet would be more likely to damage it. Also, that the other stones were actually VS/Si. Replacing one, even a large one, might be okay because of the price point for the piece, but that wouldn't work for me if all the stones had issues that could make them vulnerable.
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If she didn't notice how included the largest stone is then I don't really trust the smaller ones are VS. Each stone was included to a degree so at best and more conservatively I'd call them SI-I1 or I2 even. Some of us rely on the vendors disclosure to make an informed purchase especially when it's a final sale.
 
maryjane04 said:
If she didn't notice how included the largest stone is then I don't really trust the smaller ones are VS. Each stone was included to a degree so at best and more conservatively I'd call them SI-I1 or I2 even. Some of us rely on the vendors disclosure to make an informed purchase especially when it's a final sale.
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I agree we rely on the vendor, my only point was that the others could in fact be in the the higher clarity range, or not. Hard to know without seeing them more magnified. I wasn't talking about whether it was a final sale or not, just that I'd be more concerned if they were of the lower clarity like the center. Replacing one would be okay for me, but not several.
 
Ooh, Sin City Finds has a nice and affordable size 6 emerald eternity - 18k WG - $650:
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Vintage Emerald eternity band

A really pretty vintage eternity band with vibrant green emeralds. The ring it's made of 18 karat white gold and it fits a size 6 finger. There's a little bit of wear on the emeralds but overall it looks great.
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So ummmm….. my #2 HG dream is a giant Antique Peruzzi pendant.

Sooo, I have a beef with the antique gods. This kind of deliciousness is not allowed until I have my #1 :evil:

Its beautiful. I’m just telling myself it’s newly cut so I can emerge from my crying corner and get on with my day

Without further adu…. Sigh. Someone please buy this, cause I can’t.

 
lavenderdragonfly23 said:
So ummmm….. my #2 HG dream is a giant Antique Peruzzi pendant.

Sooo, I have a beef with the antique gods. This kind of deliciousness is not allowed until I have my #1 :evil:

Its beautiful. I’m just telling myself it’s newly cut so I can emerge from my crying corner and get on with my day

Without further adu…. Sigh. Someone please buy this, cause I can’t.

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It looks newly cut to me (though obviously I defer to the experts) so you can get one custom-cut after Georgiana!
 
This price seems super good to me for a Suzanne Kalan ring of this carat weight but I can't find this model anywhere. It's claiming 4.1ctw of sapphires in 18k rose gold for $1600, size 6.5.

www.therealreal.com

18K 4.10ctw Sapphire & Diamond Rainbow Band

18K Rose Gold. Featuring 4.10 Carat Round Modified Brilliant Sapphire. Includes Jewelry Pouch.
www.therealreal.com www.therealreal.com

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Not usually my style to like stuff on top of gems, but this is adorable
www.langantiques.com

Art Deco Carved Amethyst and Diamond Flower Ring

An enchanting beauty, this Art Deco ring features a 5.00 carat oval light lavender amethyst carved intaglio with a single bloom inlaid with glittering rose-cut diamonds. Set in an engraved bezel and held by orange blossom prongs, the delightful work of wearable art is supported by a filigree...
www.langantiques.com www.langantiques.com
 
lavenderdragonfly23 said:
Not usually my style to like stuff on top of gems, but this is adorable
www.langantiques.com

Art Deco Carved Amethyst and Diamond Flower Ring

An enchanting beauty, this Art Deco ring features a 5.00 carat oval light lavender amethyst carved intaglio with a single bloom inlaid with glittering rose-cut diamonds. Set in an engraved bezel and held by orange blossom prongs, the delightful work of wearable art is supported by a filigree...
www.langantiques.com www.langantiques.com
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This is gorgeous!
 
lavenderdragonfly23 said:
Not usually my style to like stuff on top of gems, but this is adorable
www.langantiques.com

Art Deco Carved Amethyst and Diamond Flower Ring

An enchanting beauty, this Art Deco ring features a 5.00 carat oval light lavender amethyst carved intaglio with a single bloom inlaid with glittering rose-cut diamonds. Set in an engraved bezel and held by orange blossom prongs, the delightful work of wearable art is supported by a filigree...
www.langantiques.com www.langantiques.com
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I saw this one too and almost posted it! It seems reasonably priced for the look, especially given Lang.
 
I am probably sending this back, but wanted to show you guys because it is a beautifully cut stone. It's 5mm. I bought it bc I have been looking for a yellow diamond and was hoping that S-T would be yellow enough. It was not. It is very white facing and in fact it looks more white irl than in the pics and vids but I thought I would show you. The ebayer is jewelrybestprice (funny name I know) and I offered $675. Just an fyi for when I return it if anyone is looking! I wish I had four more of these to make a five stone lol. video:

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RRfromR said:
@Mreader yep and it looks identical, which is strange. Mine didn't have the weight listed, so I'll check it at home when I get it.
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@Mreader it's here! It doesn't look flimsy and looks used, so it's so strange that they have 2 identical ones. The one that you linked it's 2.6mm, the one that I got was advertised as 2.8mm but it's also 2.6. This is how it looks next to my true antique platinum ones. Do I need it? I have a single cut full eternity, a tiny bit narrower. 20241025_124620.jpg20241025_135749.jpg20241025_135005.jpg20241025_124749.jpg
 
RRfromR said:
@Mreader it's here! It doesn't look flimsy and looks used, so it's so strange that they have 2 identical ones. The one that you linked it's 2.6mm, the one that I got was advertised as 2.8mm but it's also 2.6. This is how it looks next to my true antique platinum ones. Do I need it? I have a single cut full eternity, a tiny bit narrower. 20241025_124620.jpg20241025_135749.jpg20241025_135005.jpg20241025_124749.jpg
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You say it looks identical; does it have the same style of engraving? I think it's pretty but it is really similar to the other one on your hand.
 
Mreader said:
You say it looks identical; does it have the same style of engraving? I think it's pretty but it is really similar to the other one on your hand.
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@Mreader mine is full eternity single cut no engraving, this one is 3/4 eternity, brilliant cut (so more sparkly) with engraving.
 
If one is bigger, I would honestly keep them both. If you are like me and have carpal tunnel or have swollen hands in warmer weather- you’ll be happy to have both sizes…
 
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