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The eagle has landed!
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Well, girls, once again you have read my mind! In terms of a back-up plan I have been out looking at yellow radiants for about a month now (perhaps even BEFORE I got the ring the first time--how scary is that?!--but I did stop short of actaully calling DBL). Anyway, two small problems: 1. it would have to be about a 5 ct radiant to be as big as my round (9.65 X 9.70 -- not to mention the dimensions would have to be pretty exact to fit this setting) and 2. I think a yellow stone would look better in yellow gold. Can you imagine the look on Jack''s face if I sent it back, not to have the halo reformed, but to have it plated in yellow gold? He''s about have a heart attack I''m sure!
DS (et al), unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it!) I already have a marvelous sapphire, so I would have to branch out a little and maybe do a ruby or an emerald. Hmmmm.... the wheels are a''turnin''!
Lumpkin, I think you''re right on with two points: one is that I might never be satisfied no matter what (are you and I twins separated at birth perhaps?) and the other is that the thrill of the anticipation might have kicked my common sense right out the window. Wow, that''s never happened before.
KD, thank you for telling me about your experience. It''s nice to know sometimes that I''m not alone when it comes to the expectation vs. reality gap (although I think the gap might be wider for me than it is for other people, LOL... )
Cehra, no offense taken! And maybe if our hairdressers used some of that *lemon pie* in the highlighting mix we''d end up that elusive perfect shade of blond!
Mrs. S., what can I say? You''re a saint! To have stuck with me through all this... you deserve some sort of medal or something. (Take consolation, gals, in that everything you had to put up with in the form of a post poor Mrs. S. had to live through via e-mail too. Poor thing!)
Deco, you are, as usual, right. It is a beautiful piece (Kelege does not produce crap, LOL) and I will probably never focus on this ring again as much as I am at this moment. (Well, OK, maybe one more time--when I take the pics of the "new and improved" version and post them so we can all have yet another conversation about The Brick. But that''s it!)
Firegoddess, there were moments during this whole process when I wished someone from The Mother Ship would just beam me up and take me away so I didn''t have to think about this any more. Too bad your ring ultimately got fixed or you could have directed them over to my neck of the woods for a pick up.
Neverland, it is WELL BEYOND 5 o''clock at this point and I feel more than ready for a drink.
Ellen, I''ll meet you at the bar on the corner in 10 minutes!!!
DS (et al), unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it!) I already have a marvelous sapphire, so I would have to branch out a little and maybe do a ruby or an emerald. Hmmmm.... the wheels are a''turnin''!
Lumpkin, I think you''re right on with two points: one is that I might never be satisfied no matter what (are you and I twins separated at birth perhaps?) and the other is that the thrill of the anticipation might have kicked my common sense right out the window. Wow, that''s never happened before.
KD, thank you for telling me about your experience. It''s nice to know sometimes that I''m not alone when it comes to the expectation vs. reality gap (although I think the gap might be wider for me than it is for other people, LOL... )
Cehra, no offense taken! And maybe if our hairdressers used some of that *lemon pie* in the highlighting mix we''d end up that elusive perfect shade of blond!
Mrs. S., what can I say? You''re a saint! To have stuck with me through all this... you deserve some sort of medal or something. (Take consolation, gals, in that everything you had to put up with in the form of a post poor Mrs. S. had to live through via e-mail too. Poor thing!)
Deco, you are, as usual, right. It is a beautiful piece (Kelege does not produce crap, LOL) and I will probably never focus on this ring again as much as I am at this moment. (Well, OK, maybe one more time--when I take the pics of the "new and improved" version and post them so we can all have yet another conversation about The Brick. But that''s it!)
Firegoddess, there were moments during this whole process when I wished someone from The Mother Ship would just beam me up and take me away so I didn''t have to think about this any more. Too bad your ring ultimately got fixed or you could have directed them over to my neck of the woods for a pick up.
Neverland, it is WELL BEYOND 5 o''clock at this point and I feel more than ready for a drink.
Ellen, I''ll meet you at the bar on the corner in 10 minutes!!!
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Hmmm, I need a peek at your sapphire ring!
However, let me make one more pitch for sapphires, my favorite gemstone other than diamonds...they come in blue, pink, yellow, lavendar, purple, orange, green, and various combinations of these!
I am thinking I want one of each, so I was projecting my own desires on to you! Haha! Seriously, though, for the size you need, a ruby would probably be more than a diamond at that size, and so would an emerald. And the emerald would be too fragile. So that brings us back to sapphires (until those spessarite garnet girls show up, that is!)
However, let me make one more pitch for sapphires, my favorite gemstone other than diamonds...they come in blue, pink, yellow, lavendar, purple, orange, green, and various combinations of these!
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Oh DJ, I''m so sorry about all of this!! I can''t believe you can''t get your ring the way you really want it. What a nightmare......
I agree with the wearing it awhile. You may find you really do like it in the end. But if not then on to other stones!! You know I''ve been telling you for awhile that you NEED some color in your life. I vote for a big beautiful tsavorite garnet. Oh yummm, I can see it now. How gorgeous would that be!!
I agree with the wearing it awhile. You may find you really do like it in the end. But if not then on to other stones!! You know I''ve been telling you for awhile that you NEED some color in your life. I vote for a big beautiful tsavorite garnet. Oh yummm, I can see it now. How gorgeous would that be!!
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Because of the large carat size needed to fill that baby ... if you DID wanna do a switcharoo ... maybe you could consider less pricey stones? Tsvorite is my new FAVE ... Aquamarine could be STUNNING in that size & something "different" than your blue sapphire now. Eh, just some random thoughts -- glad you posted the dimensions you''d need ... no telling how many folks might pick up the search torch, you know, for FUN!
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Love your sapphire ring, Dee Jay!
That is on my project list for this year. I have one, but the stone is too dark...from back in the days where I knew nothing other than sapphires were blue! (Had no idea they came in all colors, and the other colors, mostly, are cheaper than the blue!)
I agree that you''ll have to go with something other than ruby or emerald...in a 5 carat size you''d be looking at prices higher than many diamonds. Sapphires, garnets, aquas, or spinels....now spinel would be an excellent choice if you want a red stone for a fraction of the cost of ruby. They are pretty durable, too.
I agree that you''ll have to go with something other than ruby or emerald...in a 5 carat size you''d be looking at prices higher than many diamonds. Sapphires, garnets, aquas, or spinels....now spinel would be an excellent choice if you want a red stone for a fraction of the cost of ruby. They are pretty durable, too.
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Thanks Ellen!
Deco, I have just recently discovered the wonders of tsvorite and I was considering getting one anyway so that might be a good option. Are they very expensive though, especially given how big it would have to be?
DS, the sapphirre was originally alot more oval that round and started out as 4.18 cts, but I chipped it pretty badly and it had to be recut so now it only a smidge over 4 (maybe 4.01 or 4.03, I can''t remember). The side stones are 70 points each. Keep in mind though that because of greater density a 4 ct sapphire is only about the same size as a 3 ct diamond.
Deco, I have just recently discovered the wonders of tsvorite and I was considering getting one anyway so that might be a good option. Are they very expensive though, especially given how big it would have to be?
DS, the sapphirre was originally alot more oval that round and started out as 4.18 cts, but I chipped it pretty badly and it had to be recut so now it only a smidge over 4 (maybe 4.01 or 4.03, I can''t remember). The side stones are 70 points each. Keep in mind though that because of greater density a 4 ct sapphire is only about the same size as a 3 ct diamond.
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Gosh, that is scary about the chip! It''s good that you didn''t lose any more than you did! Yes, I know I have to go with a larger carat weight on a sapphire to get the appearance of a similar size diamond. I''m trying to decide the proportion I want it to be in comparision to my e-ring. And of course, the setting would be a factor as well.
Did you choose this sapphire or did you buy the ring already made? Sorry to be off topic, so tell me if you want me to start a new thread!
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Hey DJ...I''m joining this thread SO LATE, although I have been following it off and on..
I join the others hoping that with a little time you''ll grow to love your "new and slightly improved" ring...it is such an incredible stunner...by almost any standards. I''m eagerly awaiting pictures..
I''m so sorry this whole process has been such a headache for you! This is supposed to be fun!!
If you do decide to someday replace The Brick with a colored stone, I wanted to plug aquamarine or even tourmaline as more affordable options. I think tsavorite in this size would be VERY rare and costly. Top quality spinel would be fabulous of course, but again very expensive in this size.
Even very fine aquas and tourmalines are CHEAP (compared to colored diamonds and colored stones mentioned above), and can be custom cut to perfectly fit the mounting. And they can be stunning...
Just some thoughts
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I join the others hoping that with a little time you''ll grow to love your "new and slightly improved" ring...it is such an incredible stunner...by almost any standards. I''m eagerly awaiting pictures..
I''m so sorry this whole process has been such a headache for you! This is supposed to be fun!!
If you do decide to someday replace The Brick with a colored stone, I wanted to plug aquamarine or even tourmaline as more affordable options. I think tsavorite in this size would be VERY rare and costly. Top quality spinel would be fabulous of course, but again very expensive in this size.
Even very fine aquas and tourmalines are CHEAP (compared to colored diamonds and colored stones mentioned above), and can be custom cut to perfectly fit the mounting. And they can be stunning...
Just some thoughts
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Widget, thanks for the info about the tsavorite--I was afraid it would be expensive. But I do love tourmaline too so that''s definitely an option.
Catmom, you''re such an enabler!
And DS, I bought the sapphire loose and then I had a local guy source the matching diamonds and have the mounting made.
Catmom, you''re such an enabler!
And DS, I bought the sapphire loose and then I had a local guy source the matching diamonds and have the mounting made.
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If you are unhappy with the ring. And the jewler is dropping the ball left and right... I may be missing something-- but WHY do you have to fork over 10 freaking K? I would.. demand a refund or remake. OR I would negotiate alower price with JK... and make sure its HE who refunds, and that it doesn''t hurt the jeweler. Sorry... I''m know I''m brash, but that''s just what I would do in your place.
I do think a red spinel would be AMAZING in there how ever.
I do think a red spinel would be AMAZING in there how ever.
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DeeJay,
I have been following this thread periodically and this is my first post here.
I am so sorry you are unhappy with the finished product. I can''t even fathom spending that much money on a setting,however, even if it had only cost 1000 dollars, I would still think that, I, the customer had a right to be made happy.
MAybe I missed this eariler in the thread, but did you have a written contract or anything? If it was only a verbal affirmation made to you that it wouldn''t have gaps what can you do?
Can you just tell the jeweler you are not happy and have him send it back to Kelege (that way the jeweler isn''t stuck with it either) and have it done elsewhere???
I would hate to see you stuck with something you don''t LOVE for that kind of dough.
I can''t wait to see pics of the ''improved'' version...
I have been following this thread periodically and this is my first post here.
I am so sorry you are unhappy with the finished product. I can''t even fathom spending that much money on a setting,however, even if it had only cost 1000 dollars, I would still think that, I, the customer had a right to be made happy.
MAybe I missed this eariler in the thread, but did you have a written contract or anything? If it was only a verbal affirmation made to you that it wouldn''t have gaps what can you do?
Can you just tell the jeweler you are not happy and have him send it back to Kelege (that way the jeweler isn''t stuck with it either) and have it done elsewhere???
I would hate to see you stuck with something you don''t LOVE for that kind of dough.
I can''t wait to see pics of the ''improved'' version...
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Crown, thanks for the nice words about by diamond and sapphire ring. And I am also hoping the new one will grow on me!
Irish, when we go to the gem show in May I might be on the prowl for "a little color" so you and Catmom will have to help me!
Gypsy and Sophie, in thinking this over (and belive me, I think about virtually *nothing else* right now, ha ha... ) I am having a hard time separating what is Jack's fault vs. what is the jeweler's fault vs. what is MY fault. I ordered a ring based on a photo in a catalog and a sample that was sent for me to look at (but that sample ring had a PRINCESS stone in it). I have to say that the ring I *got* looks like the ring in the picture. But the picture wasn't very good and having seen probably 2 dozen different Kelege pieces at that point where the halo always fit the center stone beautifully it NEVER occurred to me that this setting would not follow suit. Maybe I should have made more inquiry before ageeing to the ring. And the jeweler knows I am not happy, which is why he sent it back to Kelege in the first place, but I don't think I can "return" it at this point.
Anyway, I'm hopeful it will be ready today (how long can it take to milgrain a couple of traps?) and then I can post pics for you all.
Irish, when we go to the gem show in May I might be on the prowl for "a little color" so you and Catmom will have to help me!
Gypsy and Sophie, in thinking this over (and belive me, I think about virtually *nothing else* right now, ha ha... ) I am having a hard time separating what is Jack's fault vs. what is the jeweler's fault vs. what is MY fault. I ordered a ring based on a photo in a catalog and a sample that was sent for me to look at (but that sample ring had a PRINCESS stone in it). I have to say that the ring I *got* looks like the ring in the picture. But the picture wasn't very good and having seen probably 2 dozen different Kelege pieces at that point where the halo always fit the center stone beautifully it NEVER occurred to me that this setting would not follow suit. Maybe I should have made more inquiry before ageeing to the ring. And the jeweler knows I am not happy, which is why he sent it back to Kelege in the first place, but I don't think I can "return" it at this point.
Anyway, I'm hopeful it will be ready today (how long can it take to milgrain a couple of traps?) and then I can post pics for you all.
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For those who want to see what the deal is, here are some Kelege settings. The one with the square head does have a princess stone. The oval halo has an oval stone, the round a round, and the asscher has a cut cornered square halo, the cushion halo has a cushion stone. The problem was buying the square halo with a square opening for a round stone. It certainly can be done, but it''s a matter of whether you like it that way!
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DS, thank you for posting those--and WHERE did you find them? I could never locate good pics of Kelege settings, especially now that the website is under construction.
This just further illustrates my point that Jack musta been smokin' crack to decide that a round stone in a square hole was a good design idea. He obviously didn't stick the oval stone in a rectangular hole, did he??? I guess I shouldn't bash it any more until I get the ring back and really have time to study it, but seriously...
This just further illustrates my point that Jack musta been smokin' crack to decide that a round stone in a square hole was a good design idea. He obviously didn't stick the oval stone in a rectangular hole, did he??? I guess I shouldn't bash it any more until I get the ring back and really have time to study it, but seriously...
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My local jeweler carries it:
http://www.diamondsdirectsouthpark.com/jackkelege.html
Dee Jay, I honestly think the jeweler put in the order for the square halo setting, gave the diamond size, and that was it. Unless there were instructions to make your ring custom with a round hole in the square halo, that just wouldn't be assumed. I feel like that is what happened. It's just a case of the communication and expectations not being perfectly clear.
http://www.diamondsdirectsouthpark.com/jackkelege.html
Dee Jay, I honestly think the jeweler put in the order for the square halo setting, gave the diamond size, and that was it. Unless there were instructions to make your ring custom with a round hole in the square halo, that just wouldn't be assumed. I feel like that is what happened. It's just a case of the communication and expectations not being perfectly clear.
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EXCEPT that you were shown a PICTURE of a round stone in a square halo & ordered *that* design for your ring. Ya didn't order a round halo on a round stone, or a square halo on a square stone .. you asked for & received a SQUARE halo on a ROUND stone as was shown in the picture you personally looked at.
Ultimately it was a "good enough" design idea for you to fork over your cash ... *shrug*
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