Unheated Mogok Ruby 2.17 cts

[ANAGUTGAR]

Hi!
I bought in Yangon in 2004 an unheated loose Mogok Ruby with certificate in a wonderful deep red color. I´m not sure if it´s a little bit too dark, but in the certificate the color grade is deep red. Color in a ruby it´s the most important thing.
Also I don´t have any idea about prices at this time in this type and quality of stones.
I have some pictures as well as the original certificate of the stone.
Any opinion would be greatly aprreciated, thanks in advance for your help!

 

[chrono]

Deep red does not sound promising. Which lab issued the lab report? That is also very important. It would be very helpful if you post picture of your ruby and report.

 

[ANAGUTGAR]

Thanks for your reply. It's really nice to find people so kind. I live in Spain and here people prefer diamonds and emeralds . So it isn 't easy todo find persons how know well rubies.
I was trying to send come pictures as well as a certificate copy. But I could 'nt done. I ha come problems with t he webpage . I' ll try to do now another time
At that time in Burma the only serious laboratory was Stalwart Gem Laboratory.
Hoping this information will be usefull.
Thanks another time for your help!

 

[chrono]

Seems like the only decent lab in Myanmar is still Stalwart Gem Lab although there isn't a lot of information on it. Being that your memo is nearly 10 years old, would you consider having your ruby reviewed again? Testing has undergone such improvements that stones originally thought of as unheated years ago are now found to have undergone lower temperature heat. Ah, I see that you managed to post 2 pictures of your ruby. Yes, it is dark and shows a good bit of extinction, if your pictures are accurate. How accurate is the colour and general appearance of your ruby? Do you know if it has fluorescence?

 

[ANAGUTGAR]

Hi ! Thank you again. I'm really happy to have your help. I include some more pictures , so you can better check . Excuse my lack of professionalism as photographer. I took them with my mobile. I also included certificate with my main characteristics . I agree that perhaps the most accurate would be a new report lab. The ruby has great fluorescence.
Thanks in advance and sorry for the inconvenience .
Happy Weekend !

 

[chrono]

I do not like to assess a value based on photographs but it appears this lab's report seems in-line with what I see on my monitor. The ruby is dark but a nice red. If the tone were lighter, it would be valued much more. I am not familiar with Spain so don't know what labs are in your country.

 

[minousbijoux]

Sorry, I unwittingly posted to your other thread (you might ask the mods to close the other one since they are duplicate threads)! You've gotten much farther here. It looks to be a good red, though dark as you all have been discussing. I would get an updated lab report as well. I also am curious about just how dark the stone is. I wish you could take more photos in a controlled environment so we could get as accurate a color perspective as possible. On the positive side, it does look to be unheated if what Stalwart says is correct. That would be great for you.

 

[ANAGUTGAR]

Thanks for your message ! I really appreciate your help ! When I was in Myanmar I saw few unheated and untreated Mogok rubies that were not too light pink , that had not too purple dyes . The most of the stones were from Mong Hsu (all cooked ) and some of Namya. (The Chinese began to tap your neighborhood and the difficult situation of the country ).
It was the only stone that I saw whose color was nearest to the red. Of course was not a traffic light red that I only ese until today in some African cooked stones . I'm sending some pictures that I took today with the early morning sunlight . I hope so today facilitate your opinion and your advice . Do you think GIA would be a good lab?
Thanks a lot !

 

[chrono]

GIA is an excellent lab. There must be some good coloured stone appraisers where you are who can help you with valuation. It is best to view the stone in hand for this which is why most on Pricescope would not even try to guess. Slight nuances in colour makes a big difference price wise. The ruby still looks fairly dark but I don't know if what I see is what you see. Ruby is such a mine field with all sorts of treatment so getting an updated lab report is a great first step.

 

[ANAGUTGAR]

Good morning ! I enclose 2 pictures more . I think the last 3 and these 2 sent , represent accurate the ruby color. All of them taken withdim morning sunlight . As I told you people here doesn't work with and know so much about corundums. The most widespread demand is focused on diamonds and emeralds . I was looking about GIA, incredible London , Mumbai and Bangkok if I'm not wrong, in regard to Europe and Asia.
Again thank you for all your Help !

 

[Chrysoberyl]

Hi Anagutgar.The colour is not spectacular,but it is pretty big for an (allegedly) unheated ruby.In any case I don't know why the issuers of the certificate felt the need to estate that the Mohs hardness is 9,I don't think they did a hardness test,and if the standard gemmological tests indicate corundum it is understood that the hardness is the one of corundum! I don't know if you live in Madrid,but if you have any doubt about the stone I would take it to the IGE (Instituto Gemológico Español).It is the best gem lab in Spain and member of FEEG,and they'll be able to dissipate any doubt or concern you may have about the stone.Here you have a couple of links:



http://www.ige.org/ige/ http://www.feeg.net/



Good luck!

 

[T L]

Good morning ! I enclose 2 pictures more . I think the last 3 and these 2 sent , represent accurate the ruby color. All of them taken withdim morning sunlight . As I told you people here doesn't work with and know so much about corundums. The most widespread demand is focused on diamonds and emeralds . I was looking about GIA, incredible London , Mumbai and Bangkok if I'm not wrong, in regard to Europe and Asia.
Again thank you for all your Help !

Did you check if that ruby has UV fluorescence? It doesn't appear so in those sunlight pictures, and a good ruby should fluor.

 

[ANAGUTGAR]

First of all, thanks to all for your help . I contacted IGE (Spain), but they told me they can not certify the origin of the ruby , despite I join the original Stallwart certificate (only GIA, Gubelin or AGL can do it ). Regarding the ruby fluorescence I enclose other pictures , itself can be of help todo your recommendations. The ruby is unheated and untreated as they reconfirm ! Thanks to again to all of all of YOU , it is really nice to have your support !

 

[T L]

Do you have a UV light?

 

[Chrysoberyl]

I'm glad I could be of any help.The colour in the last picture looks quite good actually,I don't know if it is accurate or not.

 

[ANAGUTGAR]

Your advices has been helpful . In September I have plans to travel to Thailand , there I'll take the opportunity to certify the origin (Mogok) of the ruby with GIA lab in Bangkok . Again thank you fo r taking your time (Chrono , Chysoberyl , TL , ..... Wish You a happy weekend. Greetings cfrom Spain!

 

[chrono]

In September I have plans to travel to Thailand , there I'll take the opportunity to certify the origin (Mogok) of the ruby with GIA lab in Bangkok .

That is awesome. Do contact GIA Thailand ahead of time to make sure you have whatever clearance / paperwork / appointment as necessary.

 

[Arkarlin]

I want to sale real mogok ruby.It you absorbing this please contact me.

 

[AGBF]

In September I have plans to travel to Thailand , there I'll take the opportunity to certify the origin (Mogok) of the ruby with GIA lab in Bangkok .

That is awesome. Do contact GIA Thailand ahead of time to make sure you have whatever clearance / paperwork / appointment as necessary.

I am not advocating this over GIA, but I wanted to mention that Richard Hughes now also has a lab in Thailand. It is called Lotus and issues lab reports. The prices are listed on the page to which I am providing a link. I took the liberty of converting Thai Baht to American dollars since I had no idea what the ratio was. The price for a report ranges from 2,500 Thai Baht ($76.80) to 12,00 Thai Baht ($368.64).

Lotus...http://lotusgemology.com/index.php/lab

Deb/AGBF

 

[pregcurious]

The ruby looks pretty good based on the color on my screen, the cut and overall shape. Some people prefer medium dark tone, in which case these stones tend to look dark when there is not a lot of light. If it is unheated/untreated, it is worth much more than what you probably paid for it because ruby prices have gone up a lot in the last 10 years.

 

[chrono]

I want to sale real mogok ruby.It you absorbing this please contact me.

The forum rules state that we are not to advertise anything for sale here.

Other than that, this thread is 2 years old and the OP seems to no longer be here.

 

[eastjavaman]

In September I have plans to travel to Thailand , there I'll take the opportunity to certify the origin (Mogok) of the ruby with GIA lab in Bangkok .

That is awesome. Do contact GIA Thailand ahead of time to make sure you have whatever clearance / paperwork / appointment as necessary.

I am not advocating this over GIA, but I wanted to mention that Richard Hughes now also has a lab in Thailand. It is called Lotus and issues lab reports. The prices are listed on the page to which I am providing a link. I took the liberty of converting Thai Baht to American dollars since I had no idea what the ratio was. The price for a report ranges from 2,500 Thai Baht ($76.80) to 12,00 Thai Baht ($368.64).

Lotus...http://lotusgemology.com/index.php/lab

Deb/AGBF

Don't forget GRS

 

[minousbijoux]

In September I have plans to travel to Thailand , there I'll take the opportunity to certify the origin (Mogok) of the ruby with GIA lab in Bangkok .

That is awesome. Do contact GIA Thailand ahead of time to make sure you have whatever clearance / paperwork / appointment as necessary.

I am not advocating this over GIA, but I wanted to mention that Richard Hughes now also has a lab in Thailand. It is called Lotus and issues lab reports. The prices are listed on the page to which I am providing a link. I took the liberty of converting Thai Baht to American dollars since I had no idea what the ratio was. The price for a report ranges from 2,500 Thai Baht ($76.80) to 12,00 Thai Baht ($368.64).

Lotus...http://lotusgemology.com/index.php/lab

Deb/AGBF

Don't forget GRS

ejm: why the eye roll? Is there something we should know about GRS?

 

[Marlow]

Yes - would be interesting....

 

[AGBF]

Well...I had a colored stone report done by AGL. But I am in the United States. I was trying to think of reliable Thai Labs. I see that GRS has a branch in Thailand. Is it good?

AGBF

 

[eastjavaman]

Minous,
Nothing wrong, I was just pointing that GRS is also a well known lab, but not mentioned.

I am not advocating this over GIA, but I wanted to mention that Richard Hughes now also has a lab in Thailand. It is called Lotus and issues lab reports. The prices are listed on the page to which I am providing a link. I took the liberty of converting Thai Baht to American dollars since I had no idea what the ratio was. The price for a report ranges from 2,500 Thai Baht ($76.80) to 12,00 Thai Baht ($368.64).

Lotus...http://lotusgemology.com/index.php/lab

Deb/AGBF

Don't forget GRS

ejm: why the eye roll? Is there something we should know about GRS?

 

[ANAGUTGAR]

Hi, sorry for the delay.
I update the latest AGL certificate of the ruby of the thread 2.17cts Mogok.
Thanks to All of You for your help and support!!!

 

[Burmesedaze]

Hi, sorry for the delay.
I update the latest AGL certificate of the ruby of the thread 2.17cts Mogok.
Thanks to All of You for your help and support!!!

That's really awesome! Congrats on the results. Rubies like these are ultra scarce here now!

 

[Anne111]

I recently had to learn that many good labs need months(!) to get a report done with long waiting lists (probably longer for non-pro walk-in customers), so you better plan a long holiday or ship the gem to bangkok earlier.

 

[peacechick]

Wow, I remember this thread from five years ago (when I first joined). I am so glad that you finally got your ruby tested and it came out as untreated and unheated. You have a treasure, enjoy it! What will you do with it now, have you set it yet?