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The N color vendor also has 1.54 K OMC (looks like a pillowy OEC to me). Did you see that one? Maybe she could do a side by side vid for you? Unless it’s too cushiony.
Would you sacrifice colour in an OEC to maximise size?
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The N color vendor also has 1.54 K OMC (looks like a pillowy OEC to me). Did you see that one? Maybe she could do a side by side vid for you? Unless it’s too cushiony.
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It can’t hurt to reach out to hold the N, she might do a courtesy hold. Asking is free!
That’s really too bad about Sara, that is frustrating. So it sounds like you might need to take a blind leap of faith. Have you called them? Ilya should still be around I’d think? Someone is keeping the lights on! I’d probably get a aggressive at this point hah but I’m pushy to get what I want
I will add, if the M is grabbing at your heartstrings the most, that says a lot. It’s still a gorgeous stone with a beautiful fluttery petal pattern, I’m merely expressing my own preferences, ideally they’d send more videos so you can be sure…and it’s just a slightly different flavor than the other 2. There’s no wrong answers here
As for bezel and tint - it’s hard to say how a stone might react as I do find antiques behave differently. No matter what, the color will be much more evident and I bet a bezel may more starkly show the color contrast - as you’ll have cool white platinum hugging the full diameter of the warmer stone. But that’s just a guess and it’s hard to say if it will bother you or not! All I can say is, embrace the tint, or don’t!
The tint is most obvious from the side and will block more of that from view.
I had to go to bed but I was dreaming of diamonds!! I'll follow up later today and see if I can get another video.
Yes, I feel the only way not to miss out is to go ahead and buy, but I don't feel comfortable doing that. Plus I don't want the diamond to be shipped to me, I need to find sides and get the setting done. No I haven't called, it's tricky timing because that is when the kids are back from school and trying to have a conversation without them yelling 'mummy' is nigh on impossible, especially when it would cost £££ per minute. I can send an email and see if anyone responds.
I'm not completely sold on the M. When it popped up on their site and I saw the still image, my heart rate went up and I was excited. I think I was expecting to be blown away when I saw the video and I was mainly left with - is the centre dark. I do like that I can see the facet pattern clearly.
Yes that's the trouble and the gamble I guess, I don't know how they would look in the bezel. The J certainly looks very white and would look very similar to my I I imagine, so feels 'safer'. The M/N would definitely be warmer but how much of a contrast is what I'm not sure of. I've seen lots of threads about warmer diamonds I've not seen many in a platinum bezel. Yes you're right of course, more colour is seen from the side and a bezel will help with that.
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Yes I did see it, very pretty but it's just over the top of my budget (for the whole ring). It is more pillowy and I think I prefer round. There is a K I might ask about but I'm sure it's sold. No harm in asking I guess. I will follow up and chase Adam too, I haven't done that yet in case I wanted to go ahead with one of the I&R options.
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I'm struggling to think of anything else right now! Went to yoga this morning and while I was supposed to focusing on my breathing, all I could think was about was colour grades, measurements and facet patterns!!
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This is an N in a platinum bezel! It’s not the same as seeing IRL but…
https://www.pricescope.com/communit...by-dk-also-known-as-why-i-sold-my-oec.274979/
https://www.pricescope.com/communit...by-dk-also-known-as-why-i-sold-my-oec.274979/
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Ooh thank you! I can see the warmth but it works well with the platinum. I have spoken to hubby again and the budget is more flexible than I thought, his words were 'be sensible'!!
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Agnasia, do you feel comfortable giving us an updated budget for everything (to the best of what you think it may be?) There are PSers keeping a keen lookout for you, so if you could give a quick update, so that if someone sees something, they don't have to search pages back to see if they should bring to your attention.
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Oh dear, I could stretch the definition of “sensible”…
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Is the bezeled three stone from Grays Antiques still a favorite of yours? I wonder if it makes sense for you to go see it again. You could take some pics of it next to a GIA graded stone and perhaps get measurements of the center stone?
I feel like after you get a center and two sides plus a setting the total price would be in the same vicinity as the Grays ring.
I feel like after you get a center and two sides plus a setting the total price would be in the same vicinity as the Grays ring.
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Agnasia, do you feel comfortable giving us an updated budget for everything (to the best of what you think it may be?) There are PSers keeping a keen lookout for you, so if you could give a quick update, so that if someone sees something, they don't have to search pages back to see if they should bring to your attention.
I think roughly around $10k, but I'm sure he would prefer less even though he's being a bit vague!
Ha ha I know! Maybe he's testing me....!!
Yes I still love that ring, but I don't know if my email exchanges with the seller have made that all a bit awkward. I have a GIA I, so I could use that, although my calipers have gone AWOL!
That has been on my mind too, although I could probably get a larger centre but not sure if it would be as white, or whether that is as a good trade of for size. I also need to factor in shipping/customs. I'm going to try and work out a rough equivalent price.
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Worth another look see then imho. The seller will know that you are sincere if you go see it again. And the GIA I is the perfect foil to determine the color. You can loupe all three stones and hopefully get some video, especially of the center. I am curious to know the mm diameter and depth.
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I will email and find out if it’s still available. I will need to try and find my callipers but I don’t have a loupe, I’ve not looked for inclusions before so not sure I trust myself to know what I’m doing!
Someone from I&R has come back to me about the inclusions, they’ve directed me to the lab reports and says they are both totally eye clean.
I also have a new video of the 1.41 M, mostly of the side so it’s difficult to gauge the centre but see what you all think.
1.41 M Side Profile
This is "1.41 M Side Profile" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.
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Having waited since last Friday for this video, it’s a bit disappointing!
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Did you ask for just the side? Really wish you could see in various backdrops and lighting as well. That’s probably why Jon at DG is a huge plus bc he would do all that so that there is less mystery (at least based on his YouTube videos).
I don’t think I fully grasped how an M would look until at least a few days into having in my hands…I might agree with @lulu_ma suggestion to go back into the store with your I and do a compare + see what other lighting or background colors you can seek out.
Are you far from that vendor and is the return policy generous? Would you be able to put a deposit on a warm stone and take it home to see how you feel?
I don’t think I fully grasped how an M would look until at least a few days into having in my hands…I might agree with @lulu_ma suggestion to go back into the store with your I and do a compare + see what other lighting or background colors you can seek out.
Are you far from that vendor and is the return policy generous? Would you be able to put a deposit on a warm stone and take it home to see how you feel?
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No I didn't, this is what I requested -
'Could I see a longer video with full movement of the stone, centre/top and side views? The floral centre seems to go dark, so I want to get better idea of how it looks.'
I have to say Jon has been fabulous, answered all my questions and even with it not looking like I can work with him saying that he is here for me.
I've been thinking about going back and I'm just not sure as it was left on a really awkward note. Maybe I can go elsewhere, but I always feel a bit bad as I have no intention of buying anything. Also being able to see things in daylight would be so helpful, not just the fancy lighting and I don't know of anywhere I can do that.
I know Hancocks have a return policy, but the vendor at grays doesn't have anything on his website and may take offence if I asked, just based off his response to my request for some more information on the ring. I would love to be able to play with a warmer diamond and see how I feel about it, but I just don't see that being possible in the UK. I&R have a returns policy but it means shipping back to the US and then that's just one stone, I would need to find the sides and get the setting done.
I think I'm just feeling a little despondent about it all at the moment.
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Don’t despair! You actually have access to a lot more old cuts than the rest of us!
The issue is certification. Luckily, you have your GIA I as a touchstone.
Here’s another place to visit:
Farringdons | Antique and Vintage Jewellery
Our antique and vintage range includes exceptional pieces from the Georgian, Victorian, Edwardian and Art Deco eras through to spectacular vintage jewels.
AC Silver seems to have a lot too but no GIA Certs.
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Art Deco 2.75ct Diamond Three Stone Engagement Ring, c.1920s | Farringdons
A trio of breathtaking old cut diamonds adorn this Art Deco engagement ring. The centre diamond is 1.20 carat, while the diamonds to either side are 0.75 carat each. They are wonderfully matched in size and quality, with grades from I to J in colour, and VS1 clarity. They are held securely in 18...
Do all the stones have to be rounds?
Art Deco 1.27ct Diamond Solitaire Enagement Ring, c.1920s | Farringdons
This gorgeous engagement ring is classically art deco. The centre old cut diamond is an impressive 1.27 carat, and is an H colour and SI2 clarity. It reflects the light beautifully when worn. Two baguette cut diamonds are set to either side of the diamond, and are a 0.10 carat each. They match...
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Don’t despair! You actually have access to a lot more old cuts than the rest of us!
The issue is certification. Luckily, you have your GIA I as a touchstone.
Here’s another place to visit:
Farringdons | Antique and Vintage Jewellery
Our antique and vintage range includes exceptional pieces from the Georgian, Victorian, Edwardian and Art Deco eras through to spectacular vintage jewels.www.farringdonsjewellery.com
AC Silver seems to have a lot too but no GIA Certs.
Thank you for the boost! I've been to Farringdons, they have loads but most of their diamonds are pretty white, all the ones I tried were G/H. I asked about warmer but they don't select them to sell. I also went to A.R Ullmann and the lowest they had were J, which I was absolutely fine with.
I think AC Silver are in Newcastle?
Art Deco 2.75ct Diamond Three Stone Engagement Ring, c.1920s | Farringdons
A trio of breathtaking old cut diamonds adorn this Art Deco engagement ring. The centre diamond is 1.20 carat, while the diamonds to either side are 0.75 carat each. They are wonderfully matched in size and quality, with grades from I to J in colour, and VS1 clarity. They are held securely in 18...
Do all the stones have to be rounds?
Art Deco 1.27ct Diamond Solitaire Enagement Ring, c.1920s | Farringdons
This gorgeous engagement ring is classically art deco. The centre old cut diamond is an impressive 1.27 carat, and is an H colour and SI2 clarity. It reflects the light beautifully when worn. Two baguette cut diamonds are set to either side of the diamond, and are a 0.10 carat each. They match...
That three stone is really pretty, but I prefer having smaller sides. They don't all have to be rounds, I quite liked the pear cut too and really liked the round with pear sides. I think more of a three stone or centre with sides look rather than a solitaire, unless it's a really good size so it's different from my current engagement ring.
I actually tried that second one! Well sort of, the ring was too small.
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So a lovely person has stepped in to help me at I&R. I explained what I was trying to recreate and sent a photo of the three stone. She has found sides for the J. Here is a photo and a video. She has given me cost estimates too, it looking like a worst case scenario of around $8244 including the setting.
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ETA: someone is interested in one of the sides, so I would need to confirm soon I think. Having had a look at the original ring I think these sides are bigger proportionately, they are 5mm and I think I was considering 4mm. These do make a good match though as they all have similar % tables. The sides are I and centre is J.
Three Stone Option with J
This is "Three Stone Option with J" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.
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ETA: someone is interested in one of the sides, so I would need to confirm soon I think. Having had a look at the original ring I think these sides are bigger proportionately, they are 5mm and I think I was considering 4mm. These do make a good match though as they all have similar % tables. The sides are I and centre is J.
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So a lovely person has stepped in to help me at I&R. I explained what I was trying to recreate and sent a photo of the three stone. She has found sides for the J. Here is a photo and a video. She has given me cost estimates too, it looking like a worst case scenario of around $8244 including the setting.
Three Stone Option with J
This is "Three Stone Option with J" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.
@Agnasia, I'm no expert but these diamonds are looking beautiful to me. And the quote is good, right? Is the center a J? Idk, will be interesting to hear what others say but I'm thinking this might be the way to go. What are your thoughts?
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I can see what you mean, both sides are GIA graded I so it may just be the colours it is picking up?
The centre is a J (AGS report). It looks much warmer here, which is actually making me like it more! The K was from another vendor, but I have no idea if it is even available.
I think for the carat weight and colour, the quote is good. My only question is if I should ask to see slightly smaller sides as a comparison? I believe in the antique ring they are smaller?
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The centre is 1.24ct, measurements are 6.67 x 6.99 x 4.11.
The sides are 5.04 x 5.13 x 2.75 and 5.03 x 5.10 x 2.78.
I have asked about a photo with smaller sides to make a decision.
I have also messaged the other vendor to find out if the K is available.
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Thank you! What are your thoughts on the proportions?
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Would you consider double milgraining just the center stone? I think that may be a pretty look and visually make the center look a bit bigger.
Here is @sweetpea&babycorn ’s amazing OMC that is double milgrained.
Here is @sweetpea&babycorn ’s amazing OMC that is double milgrained.
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Would you consider double milgraining just the center stone? I think that may be a pretty look and visually make the center look a bit bigger.
Here is @sweetpea&babycorn ’s amazing OMC that is double milgrained.
Oh I love that ring so much! Yes double milgrain could be beautiful, then single around the sides?
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