Would you sacrifice colour in an OEC to maximise size?

[oldcutclubmember]

Oh I love that ring so much! Yes double milgrain could be beautiful, then single around the sides?

Yes, that’s what I would suggest. Just single milgrain for the sides and double for the center. I think it would be visually interesting as well as make the center appear a tad bigger

 

[Agnasia]

Yes, that’s what I would suggest. Just single milgrain for the sides and double for the center. I think it would be visually interesting as well as make the center appear a tad bigger

I'm liking this idea, thank you!

 

[lulu_ma]

The centre is 1.24ct, measurements are 6.67 x 6.99 x 4.11.

The sides are 5.04 x 5.13 x 2.75 and 5.03 x 5.10 x 2.78.

I have asked about a photo with smaller sides to make a decision.

I have also messaged the other vendor to find out if the K is available.

If I added the widths of the stones together and got 16.74 mm before the bezels. That would be very nice finger coverage!

The face of my deco halo is 18.4 mm and I am a size 6.5. I love the finger coverage of that ring.

 

[Agnasia]

If I added the widths of the stones together and got 16.74 mm before the bezels. That would be very nice finger coverage!

The face of my deco halo is 18.4 mm and I am a size 6.5. I love the finger coverage of that ring.

Yes definitely sounds like good coverage! I love your halo and great to know that width works. I’m a size 6.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

You really are getting so close! It's exciting! I just want to leave a pic of my ering because I have 4mm sides (the oval is a @9x7.2) to provide a bit of relative visual with smaller sides. I happen to really like this general proportion and think smaller sides added with the brilliant idea of double milgraining the middle would be a beautiful ratio.

 

[Agnasia]

You really are getting so close! It's exciting! I just want to leave a pic of my ering because I have 4mm sides (the oval is a @9x7.2) to provide a bit of relative visual with smaller sides. I happen to really like this general proportion and think smaller sides added with the brilliant idea of double milgraining the middle would be a beautiful ratio.

Oh this is lovely. I&R have come back with smaller 4.15-4.2mm sides as an option.

Photo and video (sorry it’s sideways!)

Three Stone Option with smaller sides

This is "Three Stone Option with smaller sides" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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[oldcutclubmember]

Oh this is lovely. I&R have come back with smaller 4.15-4.2mm sides as an option.

Photo and video (sorry it’s sideways!)

Three Stone Option with smaller sides

This is "Three Stone Option with smaller sides" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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Love the proportions on this!

 

[Agnasia]

Love the proportions on this!

Yes I think this might be it! Although part of me likes the idea of having over 2ctw with the bigger sides

 

[RetroQT]

Thank you! What are your thoughts on the proportions?

I like them but I think I like the inspiration proportions better personally. Either would be beautiful, though!

 

[Agnasia]

I like them but I think I like the inspiration proportions better personally. Either would be beautiful, though!

Have you seen the second option above? I think this is pretty close to the inspiration proportions.

 

[Agnasia]

I’ve put all three together in a pic - bigger sides, inspo ring and smaller sides

 

[oldcutclubmember]

I’ve put all three together in a pic - bigger sides, inspo ring and smaller sides

Bottom for sure and I think still double milgrain for the center! I think it would be a lovely look and a bit different!

 

[Diamondbug]

Sorry, I am late to the party, seems you are getting a lot of great advice!! I love both sides coz I love all kinds of 3 stones but I think the smaller sides looks closest to your inspo ring.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Oh this is lovely. I&R have come back with smaller 4.15-4.2mm sides as an option.

Photo and video (sorry it’s sideways!)

Three Stone Option with smaller sides

This is "Three Stone Option with smaller sides" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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There it is!
This is definitely within my personal harmonious 'golden ratio'
I think it will be sensational and can't wait to see the CAD.

 

[Agnasia]

Bottom for sure and I think still double milgrain for the center! I think it would be a lovely look and a bit different!

Sorry, I am late to the party, seems you are getting a lot of great advice!! I love both sides coz I love all kinds of 3 stones but I think the smaller sides looks closest to your inspo ring.

There it is!
This is definitely within my personal harmonious 'golden ratio'
I think it will be sensational and can't wait to see the CAD.

Thank you all! I have asked to go ahead with the second option (smaller sides) and then we can start working on the setting! I will definitely be asking to see the double milgrain centre @Muluver!

 

[oldcutclubmember]

Thank you all! I have asked to go ahead with the second option (smaller sides) and then we can start working on the setting! I will definitely be asking to see the double milgrain centre @Muluver!

Sooooo excited for you! Please keep us updated on the progress!

 

[Cerulean]

I’ve put all three together in a pic - bigger sides, inspo ring and smaller sides

I like this combo - i am personally a fan of smaller sides!! And for the larger sides the right one is distractingly too warm IMO

 

[Cerulean]

Thank you all! I have asked to go ahead with the second option (smaller sides) and then we can start working on the setting! I will definitely be asking to see the double milgrain centre @Muluver!

Omg yaaaay!!!! I’m so excited for you, seriously! When you know, you know!

This is going to be a fab ring! Please feel free to share CAD designs here if you want help!

 

[junebug17]

@Agnasia, it's funny, I was going to ask you if the stones were a bit bigger than you wanted but for some reason I didn't - I'm so happy to see your latest post!! The smaller stones fit the look you are going for and look beautiful with the center stone - I'm so excited for you!!!

 

[RetroQT]

Oh this is lovely. I&R have come back with smaller 4.15-4.2mm sides as an option.

Photo and video (sorry it’s sideways!)

Three Stone Option with smaller sides

This is "Three Stone Option with smaller sides" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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Now THIS is *chef’s kiss* perfect!!! Those smaller stones are perfect.

 

[Agnasia]

Sooooo excited for you! Please keep us updated on the progress!

Thank you! Deposit has been paid. I think I’ll be needing all of your help with the setting!

Omg yaaaay!!!! I’m so excited for you, seriously! When you know, you know!

This is going to be a fab ring! Please feel free to share CAD designs here if you want help!

Well if it wasn’t for you I would have got to this point! Thank you so much for finding the diamond. I will absolutely be asking for help! They explained the process to me, that we discuss everything first before starting the CADs as new CADs will incur costs. Minor tweaks are fine, but any big changes will add to the cost.

@Agnasia, it's funny, I was going to ask you if the stones were a bit bigger than you wanted but for some reason I didn't - I'm so happy to see your latest post!! The smaller stones fit the look you are going for and look beautiful with the center stone - I'm so excited for you!!!

Aah thank you! I wasn’t sure if I was being overly picky, but as soon as I saw them with the smaller stones I knew they were the ones. Although I did hesitate over the lower carat weight (what has PS done to me?)!!!

Now THIS is *chef’s kiss* perfect!!! Those smaller stones are perfect.

Thanking you muchly! They look just right, I think.

 

[dmack]

Oh this is lovely. I&R have come back with smaller 4.15-4.2mm sides as an option.

Photo and video (sorry it’s sideways!)

Three Stone Option with smaller sides

This is "Three Stone Option with smaller sides" by Agnes Dewhirst on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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As soon as I saw this, I said “Yepyepyep!” This is so right!

 

[AL12]

i'm so thrilled for you! all i could do was refresh my screen and track along while getting slammed with work. i'm 100% happy that you also asked for the smaller sides

can't wait to continue to track and see your completed project!

If I added the widths of the stones together and got 16.74 mm before the bezels. That would be very nice finger coverage!

The face of my deco halo is 18.4 mm and I am a size 6.5. I love the finger coverage of that ring.

just wanted to say that this breakdown was so helpful for me too! i might have to do some math calculations at one point too, whenever I find "the one" haha.

 

[luvmysparklies]

Wow! Congratulations on your new diamonds. It is so great to follow the twists and turns of your journey to see that you are getting just what you wanted! Yay! Will be staying tuned to see the diamonds in their new setting

 

[Agnasia]

As soon as I saw this, I said “Yepyepyep!” This is so right!

Thank you, yes I think so too!

i'm so thrilled for you! all i could do was refresh my screen and track along while getting slammed with work. i'm 100% happy that you also asked for the smaller sides

can't wait to continue to track and see your completed project!



just wanted to say that this breakdown was so helpful for me too! i might have to do some math calculations at one point too, whenever I find "the one" haha.

Ha ha thanks! There is something about knowing the coverage isn’t there? I think I have about 20mm width in total to play with, so with the bezels it should work really well.

I really hope you find “the one” soon and will keep my eyes peeled.

Wow! Congratulations on your new diamonds. It is so great to follow the twists and turns of your journey to see that you are getting just what you wanted! Yay! Will be staying tuned to see the diamonds in their new setting

Thank you so much, it’s been a bit of a rollercoaster and I’m just so glad I got the diamonds secured before the weekend! There was a little palaver with the transaction as my bank blocked it! But all done, now on with the setting!

 

[AL12]

Okay here come my questions! I know oec doesn’t directly translate to omc pricing and size per ct but I do feel like our budget and side stone ratio preference are similar!

Went you went down to the 4mm sides how much price difference did you see? Did I/R calculate it down to you at that level?

And did they give you a price breakdown of each item (setting, side stones etc) or was it just a finalized number thrown own? (Only if you don’t mind sharing of course!)

 

[Agnasia]

Okay here come my questions! I know oec doesn’t directly translate to omc pricing and size per ct but I do feel like our budget and side stone ratio preference are similar!

Went you went down to the 4mm sides how much price difference did you see? Did I/R calculate it down to you at that level?

And did they give you a price breakdown of each item (setting, side stones etc) or was it just a finalized number thrown own? (Only if you don’t mind sharing of course!)

Ha ha go ahead! Ok so the bigger side stones were $648 more than the smaller ones. Total cost with the smaller size side diamonds and centre was $5760 (the sides were $810). They have estimated the setting in platinum will be $1600-1800.

 

[Agnasia]

So lovely people, now I have the diamonds secured (woohoo!) I need to think about the setting. I have the weekend to think it through before starting discussions with I&R on Monday.

Obviously the inspiration ring is my main starting point, but I don’t want it to just be a complete copy but have it’s own life, so love @Muluver’s idea of the double milgrain. So in keeping but tweaking, to make it the best version of itself.

So @luvmysparklies made a great point about the angle of the side stones that I hadn’t even clocked, with the inspo ring all the stones are positioned fairly straight across, whereas the three stone from Hancocks had the pears angled away. I think I want a bit of an angle but no where near so dramatic so you really see the sides too. Any thoughts/experiences on angles?



The next question I have is about managing the gap. The inspo ring had a gap but seemed to sit better with my wedding band, which is how I would intend to wear it. I would say all the Hancock rings did not play so well with others and I personally wasn’t a fan of the gaps. To me they felt they were almost not meant to be worn together, although it was a humid day and my finger would have been swollen. What is it about the design I need to consider to be able to wear both rings? I’m not fussed about it be being flush, although that is my main experience, I kind of like a small/slight gap but not so it’s very noticeable.



So I’m not sure if I’m using the right terminology but the gallery or baskets(?) I would like to have some detail but not overly ornate, definitely some milgrain I think. Not overly keen on the inspo ring here, maybe a floral motif like this one I found on DK’s insta?



I also love Cerulean’s



Shank - the inspo ring has a plain and I think tapered shank. It looks elegant, but I don’t know if slightly wider would work better with my wedding band? My band is also quite flat/squared off, so should the shank be similar as a rounded shank may be too much of a contrast? I think sweetpeaandbabycorn’s seems inbetween?



Or I could do something different like a split shank, but not sure the sides are big enough accommodate this look? I also like the double shank look.



Or I could go engraved? But perhaps that’s too fussy? I love how this Hancocks one finishes the engraving at the back so there’s room for sizing but it looks purposeful.



Sorry for all the questions!!

 

[Cerulean]

Sorry I can’t answer in depth atm, but the more tapered your baskets are, the smaller the gap will be.

Not to overwhelm you, but you’ll want to think about if the side stones are flush, or dropped at a lower height - here’s an example with side stones that are set lower than the center.

Do you have a profile picture of the hancocks ring you liked? Sorry if you shared and I got lost

MOCIUN on Instagram: "The new Helios Ring. Center 2.68 ct. U/VS2 King cut diamond flanked by two rose round cut yellow diamonds. A proprietary cut from the 1950s, the King cut has 86 facets, which affect the pattern of the reflections in a diamond ra

1,343 likes, 10 comments - mociun on November 23, 2019: "The new Helios Ring. Center 2.68 ct. U/VS2 King cut diamond flanked by two rose round cut yellow diamonds. A proprietary cut from the 1950s, the King cut has 86 facets, which affect the pattern of the reflections in a diamond rather than...

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[Cerulean]

I prefer sides that are lower set than the center stone, as you can sometimes be left with an awkwardly large space underneath but this is personal preference. The exception is a more intricate gallery

I also prefer the split shank with larger sides, but again, personal preference

Other examples-

More vintage feel, chunky center bezel, more defined edge on the shank and engraving details

David Klass Jewelry on Instagram: "Cushion Center Three Stone Ring #ring #threestoneengagementring #platinum #engraving #showmeyourrings #finejewelry #jewelry #jewellery #finejewellery #milgrain #luxury #custommade #losangeles #accessories #designyou

129 likes, 5 comments - davidklassjewelry on June 16, 2020: "Cushion Center Three Stone Ring #ring #threestoneengagementring #platinum #engraving #showmeyourrings #finejewelry #jewelry #jewellery #finejewellery #milgrain #luxury #custommade #losangeles #accessories #designyourownring #fashion...

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Simple floral motif, flush height

Maytal Hannah on Instagram

35 likes, 2 comments - maytalhannah on September 23, 2020

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A pretty double bezel, scalloped gallery

The Idol's Eye on Instagram: "Twinkle twinkle ✨"

147 likes, 20 comments - theidolseye on August 24, 2019: "Twinkle twinkle ✨".

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More contemporary, but huge gap as I expect the basket has zero taper

Single Stone on Instagram: "Contemporary with a twist.. .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ #singlestone #singlestonela #singlestonestyle #stackingbands #fashionjewelry #accessories #ringshot #ringsofinstagram

572 likes, 1 comments - singlestonela on November 12, 2019: "Contemporary with a twist.. .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ .⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ #singlestone #singlestonela #singlestonestyle #stackingbands #fashionjewelry #accessories #ringshot #ringsofinstagram...

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A cool Art Deco gallery

1940s Old European Cut Diamond Three Stone Engagement Ring | Erstwhile Jewelry | NYC

Vintage 1940s ring featuring three EGL certified old European cut diamonds. The center is 1.40 carat H-I color and I1 clarity, and two side stones are approximately .60 carat each, H-I color and SI3 to I1 clarity. Made in platinum with an 18k gold knife-edge band. Circa 1940.

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These are also obviously pears, but could be easily modified. It has the tri wire shank if you want something less plain without going the engraved or split shank route

Aidyn on Instagram: "I am not lying when I say this stone is exactly like this in real life, no joke. Sparkles for days. She’s listed in my Etsy store but dm for IG pricing. SOLD . . . . . . #antiquepear #antiquepearcut #oldminepear #antiquepear #ant

1,195 likes, 37 comments - beetleandlark_antiques on September 11, 2021: "I am not lying when I say this stone is exactly like this in real life, no joke. Sparkles for days. She’s listed in my Etsy store but dm for IG pricing. SOLD . . . . . . #antiquepear #antiquepearcut #oldminepear...

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Lastly - since the size difference is large, you could do an open gallery and something “filled” on the sides like this - I think the engraving is a pretty touch but not necessary. The center could easily be modified to be a bezel

Enhoerning Jewelry on Instagram: "As popular right now as it was in the 1920s...hand engraving on precious platinum ⚔️✨⁠ .⁠ What is hand engraving? ⁠ .⁠ Jewelry connoisseurs speak of "hand engraving" when a precious metal surface is embellished with

208 likes, 4 comments - enhoerningjewelry on September 24, 2021: "As popular right now as it was in the 1920s...hand engraving on precious platinum ⚔️✨⁠ .⁠ What is hand engraving? ⁠ .⁠ Jewelry connoisseurs speak of "hand engraving" when a precious metal surface is embellished with intricate...

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