Could my 3.02ct F VS2 diamond have been switched to a CZ?

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 5:43:02 AM
Author: Lorelei
Hi Phoenix my friend!

One thing you could do, do you have the lab report? Get it out and a loupe ( 10x) or see about buying one and see if you can match any inclusions noted on the report to your stone. Is it inscribed?

Diamonds do give off blue fire depending on the lighting conditions, I can't tell for sure and I would never want to give you bad advice, but the chances are good as this is a jeweller you have used for years that this is your stone. Its reasonably unlikely that he would have a CZ of that size so conveniently located to swap with your stone, plus although this is no guarantee and is idle speculation on my part, looks like the table sizes of the stone are similar from what I can tell.

I think what I would do is not worry about it but for peace of mind just get the stone checked when you can so you know for sure and you can relax.

One thing I am also thinking, your stone has such a beautiful cut, I would imagine a large CZ is going to behave differently and not perform like your stone and it is possible in the rare event your stone was switched, you would have noticed it last year when it was reset. So I wouldn't worry too much but get it checked when you get back so you can put it behind you.

Here is the fire thread with other stones showing fire, https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-fire-thread.77649/

Hello Lorelei!

Thank you sooooo very much for posting such a detailed reply and for pointing me to the fire thread! I'd actually forgotten about that. I'm so glad to see that other REAL diamonds also produce blue fire! [PHEW!!]

I do have the GIA lab report, well a scanned copy on my PC and the actual copy is locked in the safe with the ring in the bank in SG. I actually know the inclusions intimately, you might say

, having looked at it so countless times since 2006! I did actually try to look at the stone after it was reset but my inclusions are soooooooo tiny, you can't see them with the regular 10x loupe. If I try really really hard with a 20x loupe, I *might* be able to make out the tiny feather on the girdle. Most of the time though, you'd have to look at it with the microscope. When I get to SG, one of the first thing I'll do (if not THE first thing, is to go see the gemologist/appraiser and get him to look at it and also show me the feather under the microscope too).

I hope that the local jeweller would not have committed such an offence / a sin by swapping my stone for a CZ. For sure, I'd raise some REALLY stinking h%ll!

The other point you've made is a valid one, I guess I'd noticed a different look and behaviour if the stone were not my beloved diamond. I did wear it everyday for about 2 months after it was reset.

Thank you again for making me a feel a little better.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 5:44:17 AM
Author: zhuzhu
Can you get it tested for diamond? Even though they may not verify it to be the same diamond, they should know if it is a real diamond.

Yes, I will def have it tested once I get to SG.

Thank you.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 5:51:21 AM
Author: missydebby


ditto

Thank you, missydebby.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 6:17:52 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
If you have been wearing it daily for a few months we would see the scratches by now.
Stop panicking and get a professional opinion.
Blue light???????????
rubbish

CZ looks like a diamond with a drop of milky water in it when it is dirty

Thank you, Garry! I am really grateful you chimed in.

I don''t have the diamond with me, but I did wear it daily for a couple of months after it was reset, so next time I go to SG, I''ll see if it has any scratches.

I will stop panicking!! Deep breath, Phoenix; deep breath!!

Glad to hear that the blue light thing is rubbish!

The part highlighted in yellow - do mean a CZ would look hazy like a diamond with too much strong blue fluor?

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 9:05:50 AM
Author: Circe
Breathe, Phoenix! While I do think you should get your ring appraised after a rest, just for safety''s sake (to be sure it''s still a diamond, still the same diamond, not chipped in setting, etc.), the blue fire thing is nonsense. ALL diamonds produce the full gamut of colors, including blue: I think the poster talking about CZ''s meant more of an overall blue tint.

Bottom line: if you didn''t have any suspicions about your stone before that thread, you shouldn''t have any now.

I am breathing - deep breath, deep breath!

Thank you, Circe.

I guess I must have read too much into the other poster''s post. It did scare me and still does somewhat.

Def I will have it tested, and you''re right, I didn''t notice anything different abt the stone and really didn''t think anything abt it ''til now!

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 9:17:53 AM
Author: kenny
All of our diamonds have bluish fire too.
They also have yellow, violet, red, orange, green etc.

Does your diamond have only blue fire? or did it have all colors but you took those pics only when the blue was there?
Is it the case that CZs have only blue fire?

I''m glad to hear that your diamonds have blueish fire too.

I took tons of photos of the same diamond but don''t have them anymore... think I lost those old photos!

The photos I currently have either show no fire (=no sun); the ones with fire/sun show only the blue fire. There are other diamonds in my possession that I can take pics of, but the stupid sun has been hiding, so any pic I take will just be blah!

Good Q abt CZ''s only having blue fire (?). I hope someone will chime in about that. Maybe I should just buy a CZ and take pics of it when the sun is out (whenever that is) and see. I''ll let you know.

 

[Cehrabehra]

a cz wouldn''t have just blue fire either - refraction takes white light and divides it up over the entire spectrum with green being the most difficult to capture according to garry

 

[jan can]

Date: 5/15/2010 4:58:59 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 5/15/2010 4:37:42 AM
Author: zhuzhu
It is a BIG DEAL if such a beautiful stone got switched. I would bring it to an independent appraiser for verification as soon as you can!

I do KNOW!!

I can''t at the moment because I don''t have the ring with me. Anyway, there''s no-one in Shanghai that I''d trust enough to do the verfication for me.

I''d have to wait until I get back to Singapore (and I won''t be able to do that for another few weeks). I''d just really appreciate it if someone could chime in and let me know whether I have anything to worry about - so I can sleep at night!

If you had this reset done in Shanghai, get a second appraisal there. Don''t tell them why you are doing it. Deal with the problem if there is one before you are in Singapore. For your own peace of mind, have another appraisal done in Sinagpore by someone you trust.

Good luck!

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 9:20:48 AM
Author: luv2sparkle
Phoenix, it is probably ok. Most jewelers wouldn''t risk their reputation over 1 diamond, they say. If you didn''t notice any difference when you first got it, it is probably your diamond. What are the chances
of a jeweler having a three carat cz that looks as good as your diamond?

Was the setting done in the US?

Having it switched by someone you have used before? Probably not. I''ve seen lots of diamonds posted here that give off a blue flash. Keep telling yourself that it is fine, and then when you can get
your ring go somewhere, in the least, that has a tester.

Most people don''t stand right there with their diamond when it is getting set. Don''t beat yourself up over that one.

It is probably your diamond. Take a deep breath.

Thank you for your reply, luv2sparkle.

I agree that most reputable jewellers wouldn''t risk their reputation and let''s hope that mine is one of them. The resetting was done in Singapore. It''s the jeweller that I''ve come to trust (so let''s hope that trust is not broken

).

I''m usually a VERY careful person. I hear what you''re saying but next time (if ever there is a next time), I''ll for sure stand there and breathe on their neck whilst they do it!

Unless of course I send it to someone like LM.

Ok, deep breath...deep breath...deep breath!!

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 9:38:47 AM
Author: denverappraiser
1) Blue flashes are NOT an indication of CZ.
2) Separating CZ from diamond is pretty easy using a very inexpensive tool. Most jewelers have one and nearly all can do it for you while you wait and for free if you ask politely.

That said, it might benefit you to get it appraised and insured anyway. It won’t reduce the chances that someone will steal your diamond, but it will make it someone else’s problem and THAT will both increase your enjoyment of the piece and reduce your blood pressure.

Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver

Thank you, Neil. I really appreciate your chiming in.

Glad to hear that blue flashes are not an indication of CZ.

I actually have a diamond tester but stupid me never used it to test the diamond after it was reset, duh!

Sarah is right. We can''t get insurance in China; which is why I left my more expensive diamonds in Singapore, locked up safely in a bank. The irony is that I was insuring them primarily for thefts or loss by careless misplacing by me (I''m notorious for misplacing things!

); but little did I know that I would have something like this as a cause for concern. Incidentally, loss by robbery is an almost non-existent issue here since Shanghai (I won''t comment on other parts of China) is VERY safe and there are so many rich people here, some with HUGE honkers (including one of my friends). It really is quite mind-boggling that insurance companies won''t provide jewellery insurance here.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 10:23:01 AM
Author: Cehrabehra
Phoenix - I''d check it but don''t base it on blueish fire - I have TONS of photos of my stone with blue fire and aqua fire etc. and its definitely real... there''s no swapping such a unique cut. I just went through my old thread and there are at least 10 photos with blueish fire. I''m not saying don''t check it out, I''m saying it could be nothing

Thank you so much for linking me to your thread, Sara. I really appreciate it. Your stone is so gorgeous, so unique and has such a lively personality!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

hope that everything is fine Phoenix! Since there''s nothing you can do right now, and the likelyhood of there being an issue sis quite small, I would just take a breath a wait until you can go get the stone from your safe deposit box and have it appraised/examined.

really hope that everything is ok!!!!

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/16/2010 12:31:50 AM
Author: jan can

Date: 5/15/2010 4:58:59 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 5/15/2010 4:37:42 AM
Author: zhuzhu
It is a BIG DEAL if such a beautiful stone got switched. I would bring it to an independent appraiser for verification as soon as you can!

I do KNOW!!

I can''t at the moment because I don''t have the ring with me. Anyway, there''s no-one in Shanghai that I''d trust enough to do the verfication for me.

I''d have to wait until I get back to Singapore (and I won''t be able to do that for another few weeks). I''d just really appreciate it if someone could chime in and let me know whether I have anything to worry about - so I can sleep at night!

If you had this reset done in Shanghai, get a second appraisal there. Don''t tell them why you are doing it. Deal with the problem if there is one before you are in Singapore. For your own peace of mind, have another appraisal done in Sinagpore by someone you trust.

Good luck!

The reset was done in Singapore.

I don''t know of any jeweller or appraiser that I can trust in Shanghai. I mean I''m sure there are but I don''t know who they are.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 10:57:16 AM
Author: CasaBlanca
Hasn''t there been several threads telling people how to take a stone and place it over black text. If the words or letters can be seen normal by looking through the stone it is a created stone? With that honking size of stone I would think you could read war and peace on a good day if it were a fake. But a sonnet or two would work now for your test practice!

I think Garry and Denver just gave great professional views;

Garry- If you have been wearing it for months and there are no scratches (then fret not is my addition).
Garry- Rubbish
Denver- Blue=hogwash.

Darlin, you know your stone. There is something that has always caught your eye. At that size you have to be familiar with it. Please tell me you spend quality time starring at it. At that size I know I would have too! I think you would have known right off the bat back a year ago. I think your camera is too blame. Take more of all the rest on your toes...(the avatar image) see how many of the rest are blue.

I have to tell you something, Casa. Every time I read your posts, I giggle. You have such a wonderful sense of humour and you sound like a lovely sweetheart!

Thank you for your lovely post. I do feel better, albeit slightly. I will try and take photos of my other diamonds when it''s sunny here (dunno when that''s gonna be - SIGH) and will post an update.

So you like my new avatar then?!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Phoenix...Geez, stop worrying for nothing!!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 5/15/2010 11:44:53 PM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 5/15/2010 5:43:02 AM
Author: Lorelei
Hi Phoenix my friend!

One thing you could do, do you have the lab report? Get it out and a loupe ( 10x) or see about buying one and see if you can match any inclusions noted on the report to your stone. Is it inscribed?

Diamonds do give off blue fire depending on the lighting conditions, I can''t tell for sure and I would never want to give you bad advice, but the chances are good as this is a jeweller you have used for years that this is your stone. Its reasonably unlikely that he would have a CZ of that size so conveniently located to swap with your stone, plus although this is no guarantee and is idle speculation on my part, looks like the table sizes of the stone are similar from what I can tell.

I think what I would do is not worry about it but for peace of mind just get the stone checked when you can so you know for sure and you can relax.

One thing I am also thinking, your stone has such a beautiful cut, I would imagine a large CZ is going to behave differently and not perform like your stone and it is possible in the rare event your stone was switched, you would have noticed it last year when it was reset. So I wouldn''t worry too much but get it checked when you get back so you can put it behind you.

Here is the fire thread with other stones showing fire, https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-fire-thread.77649/

Hello Lorelei!

Thank you sooooo very much for posting such a detailed reply and for pointing me to the fire thread! I''d actually forgotten about that. I''m so glad to see that other REAL diamonds also produce blue fire! [PHEW!!]

I do have the GIA lab report, well a scanned copy on my PC and the actual copy is locked in the safe with the ring in the bank in SG. I actually know the inclusions intimately, you might say

, having looked at it so countless times since 2006! I did actually try to look at the stone after it was reset but my inclusions are soooooooo tiny, you can''t see them with the regular 10x loupe. If I try really really hard with a 20x loupe, I *might* be able to make out the tiny feather on the girdle. Most of the time though, you''d have to look at it with the microscope. When I get to SG, one of the first thing I''ll do (if not THE first thing, is to go see the gemologist/appraiser and get him to look at it and also show me the feather under the microscope too).

I hope that the local jeweller would not have committed such an offence / a sin by swapping my stone for a CZ. For sure, I''d raise some REALLY stinking h%ll!

The other point you''ve made is a valid one, I guess I''d noticed a different look and behaviour if the stone were not my beloved diamond. I did wear it everyday for about 2 months after it was reset.

Thank you again for making me a feel a little better.

I am glad and you are welcome! Try not to worry and as once you are reunited with your diamond get it checked, I am sure it will be fine!

 

[jgny]

Phoenix, I''m sure it will be fine! FWIW, I have a 2ct RB F VS1 that has a blue flash as well, in certain conditions, but it is definitely real, as it is in its original setting and I am familiar with the inclusions. You may also want to get a higher power loupe for future use?

 

[wishingstar]

Date: 5/15/2010 4:09:03 AM
Author: Phoenix
My beloved diamond in its temp setting, when I first bought it:

Phoenix. I know your diamond will be fine, and glad you decided to just breath until you return to sing...

Hope it''s not rude to ask at the present time

, but on another note... since I will probably be over budget on my new stone, I was originally looking at a 6prong solitaire with pave like yours (Leon). Now I will need to just stick with plain jane. Which temp setting was this, WF? Do you remember the mm specks of the shank? If I go plain, I want as little metal as possible to showoff the stone, and your old temp setting looks perfect.

 

[LGK]

Oh! I had a thought. Do you have a pic of the profile of the stone after it''s latest reset? If you can see facets on the girdle, or a frosted/bruted look, it''s definitely a diamond. CZs, even the really nicely cut ones, are finished with a non-faceted, smooth girdle. Only diamonds have a faceted girdle or a bruted one.

 

[clgwli]

Date: 5/15/2010 1:37:13 PM
Author: LittleGreyKitten

Date: 5/15/2010 10:57:16 AM
Author: CasaBlanca
Hasn't there been several threads telling people how to take a stone and place it over black text. If the words or letters can be seen normal by looking through the stone it is a created stone? With that honking size of stone I would think you could read war and peace on a good day if it were a fake. But a sonnet or two would work now for your test practice!

I think Garry and Denver just gave great professional views;

Garry- If you have been wearing it for months and there are no scratches (then fret not is my addition).
Garry- Rubbish
Denver- Blue=hogwash.

Darlin, you know your stone. There is something that has always caught your eye. At that size you have to be familiar with it. Please tell me you spend quality time starring at it. At that size I know I would have too! I think you would have known right off the bat back a year ago. I think your camera is too blame. Take more of all the rest on your toes...(the avatar image) see how many of the rest are blue.

With a decently cut CZ, that isn't a reliable test at all.

CZs don't have any more or less blue fire than a diamond... but they do have a sort of funky pale/hazy slightly blue tinge to the stone itself sometimes. At least the poor quality overly white ones do.

If you breathe on the stone to fog it up, a diamond will unfog a lot faster than a CZ. A *lot* faster.

+1

I have had my share of nice CZs and I never noticed a difference in the color of the fire. I have noticed a different blueish or grayish hue (depending on which one) when indoors. You know no UV to show off any flour. I'm not sure that blue fire has anything to do with it.

I also agree with the fog test. I read it and I've done it on my nicer CZs and they do defog quicker. Diamonds pretty much defog immediately. CZs you can watch it disappear.

I've done my own side by side comparing of diamonds and one big thing is the crispness of the facets. No matter how good the CZ, they always look a bit more "rounded" The girdle also is almost always rounded and incredibly smooth instead of faceted or even polished flatly (so there is an edge) and with my older stones they are not polished nor faceted. To me that is a HUGE give away.

Even though I know of one personal switch in my life (happened to a family stone long before I was born) I doubt that many do it now. Just not something a reputable jeweler would risk doing.

 

[brellymom]

I''ll echo the others - don''t think it was switched cuz jewelery''s don''t want to destroy their rep for one diamond, but I am sure you will feel better once you check. It''s just awful not to be able to do it right away I am sure! I wouldn''t worry too much about the blue - here''s a random snap of my diamond with a little bit of blue - so you are probably okay! Fingers crossed just in case.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/16/2010 2:54:23 PM
Author: LittleGreyKitten
Oh! I had a thought. Do you have a pic of the profile of the stone after it''s latest reset? If you can see facets on the girdle, or a frosted/bruted look, it''s definitely a diamond. CZs, even the really nicely cut ones, are finished with a non-faceted, smooth girdle. Only diamonds have a faceted girdle or a bruted one.

That''s an EXCELLENT suggestion!!

I only have one pic of the diamond from the side (prob because I don''t like the profile, the setting is too high, meh!), and it''s attached it herewith for you to take a look. I had to blow it up a couple of 100%, so it''s a bit distorted/ blurry.

What do you think? Faceted or not?

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/16/2010 2:37:58 PM
Author: wishingstar

Date: 5/15/2010 4:09:03 AM
Author: Phoenix
My beloved diamond in its temp setting, when I first bought it:

Phoenix. I know your diamond will be fine, and glad you decided to just breath until you return to sing...

Hope it's not rude to ask at the present time

, but on another note... since I will probably be over budget on my new stone, I was originally looking at a 6prong solitaire with pave like yours (Leon). Now I will need to just stick with plain jane. Which temp setting was this, WF? Do you remember the mm specks of the shank? If I go plain, I want as little metal as possible to showoff the stone, and your old temp setting looks perfect.

Don't worry about it!

The temp setting is I think 1.60-1.80mm wide (I don't really remember) but it does indeed have a very thin shank. I want to say it's 18k WG but again am not too sure (might be gold-plated, but prob not). I bought it from a local jewellery store in Singapore.

I think I still have the temp setting somewhere, I can gift it to you if you like (free

). I can send it to someone like Lesley and Brian (but of course I'd have to ask for their permission first, or I can alternatively send it to your appraiser/ jeweller) and ask them to forward it to you. You'd just need to reimburse them the shipping. I'll see how much it'll cost for me to send it to you by post (prob best for me to send it by registered post but uninsured, rather than FedEX - so it won't be too expensive). You won't have to pay me back. I'd be glad to help out a fellow PS'er.

If I can't find that setting, I can send you the second reset setting. Again, don't worry about paying me back. If you'd like, just donate some money to your fave charity, ok?

All you'd need then is to change the head if you wish.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 11:43:00 AM
Author: marcyc
Most jewelry stores have that little hand held diamond tester and I am sure would gladly check it for you. I also doubt a jeweler would risk swapping out a diamond for CZ.

Actually, I have one myself but didn't use it to test it after it was reset. So stupid of me!

I hope he didn't swap it either.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 1:37:13 PM
Author: LittleGreyKitten

With a decently cut CZ, that isn''t a reliable test at all.

CZs don''t have any more or less blue fire than a diamond... but they do have a sort of funky pale/hazy slightly blue tinge to the stone itself sometimes. At least the poor quality overly white ones do.

If you breathe on the stone to fog it up, a diamond will unfog a lot faster than a CZ. A *lot* faster.

Thank you for your both of your posts.

I don''t remember the stone being hazy or has any blue tinge to it.

The fog test sounds intriguing. I''ll def try it once I get my hands on my diamond (assuming it is *my diamond*!) again.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 6:53:10 PM
Author: yssie
Yes.. only blue fire? letters through a stone? Definitely not reliable tests! Any diamond, cz, colourless stone with high enough RI will show all colours of the spectrum, incl. blue, and a well-cut cz is like a diamond - obscures unless windowed.


Don''t panick Lien it''s very unlikely that a reputable jeweller risked his reputation and business by swapping out your stone! Have it appraised, and take a look under your jeweller''s loupe & microscope so you know what to look for next time. I really think everything''s okay!!

Thank you, yssie. I appreciate your words of reassurance.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 9:27:42 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
Ditto to that, good description thats what I have seen as well.

Thank you, CCL.

 

[Phoenix]

Date: 5/15/2010 9:58:57 PM
Author: Lynn B
Phoenix,
I think everything is just fine! Try not to worry, I really doubt that your stone was switched. It looks like the same stone to me, but of course I am no expert.

Honestly, you KNOW what diamonds look like... I think you''d have noticed pretty darn quick if you''d have gotten a CZ!

BTW, ummmm... is that your footsie in your avatar???!!!!

Lynn, thanks for your words of comfort. And i''m sure you''re right - I''d noticed something untowards if the diamond had indeed been switched!


Yeah, it is...you likey?!

 

[CasaBlanca]

Date: 5/16/2010 1:06:28 AM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 5/15/2010 10:57:16 AM

"I have to tell you something, Casa. Every time I read your posts, I giggle. You have such a wonderful sense of humour and you sound like a lovely sweetheart!

"


HA! Snicker snicker snicker...I've got you fooled, don't I? I am a bitter old ugly cranky oh poo head. Thanks for the kind words sweetie!


"Thank you for your lovely post. I do feel better, albeit slightly. I will try and take photos of my other diamonds when it's sunny here (dunno when that's gonna be - SIGH) and will post an update."


Yes, I would like to see you prove it is the camera and not your jeweler!


"So you like my new avatar then?!

"


YES YES YES!

The blinged out toeage really rocks! It is so difficult to self portrait jewelery you are wearing, so I think you are on to something!


PS. I never meant for you to rely on reading a novel through your stone as proof. I just thought perhaps you had some sort of text convenient and at the ready than to schedule a trip to an appraiser or jeweler for instant nerve calming. I should have put a caveat on it. So I hope no one thinks I was suggesting reading to prove real over created. I could have suggested locking your self in a glass box and using your stone to cut your self out, but that seemed too time consuming, and too Bond like.

I wish I knew HTML, I can't figure out how to interject my replies into the comments. Perhaps version 2.0 will be easier for me to use? So sorry.

 

[wishingstar]

Date: 5/16/2010 9:53:55 PM
Author: Phoenix

Date: 5/16/2010 2:37:58 PM
Author: wishingstar

Date: 5/15/2010 4:09:03 AM
Author: Phoenix
My beloved diamond in its temp setting, when I first bought it:

Phoenix. I know your diamond will be fine, and glad you decided to just breath until you return to sing...

Hope it''s not rude to ask at the present time

, but on another note... since I will probably be over budget on my new stone, I was originally looking at a 6prong solitaire with pave like yours (Leon). Now I will need to just stick with plain jane. Which temp setting was this, WF? Do you remember the mm specks of the shank? If I go plain, I want as little metal as possible to showoff the stone, and your old temp setting looks perfect.

Don''t worry about it!

The temp setting is I think 1.60-1.80mm wide (I don''t really remember) but it does indeed have a very thin shank. I want to say it''s 18k WG but again am not too sure (might be gold-plated, but prob not). I bought it from a local jewellery store in Singapore.

I think I still have the temp setting somewhere, I can gift it to you if you like (free

). I can send it to someone like Lesley and Brian (but of course I''d have to ask for their permission first, or I can alternatively send it to your appraiser/ jeweller) and ask them to forward it to you. You''d just need to reimburse them the shipping. I''ll see how much it''ll cost for me to send it to you by post (prob best for me to send it by registered post but uninsured, rather than FedEX - so it won''t be too expensive). You won''t have to pay me back. I''d be glad to help out a fellow PS''er.

If I can''t find that setting, I can send you the second reset setting. Again, don''t worry about paying me back. If you''d like, just donate some money to your fave charity, ok?

All you''d need then is to change the head if you wish.

Phoenix you are too sweet

to even offer and truly deserving of the jewels you own and more!

The 1.6-1.8mm shank on that size stone looks classy yet simply perfect to me (since I cant have my Leon pave if I go for a 2ct stone right now... let me know if you ever want to sell your current setting)!

When i inquired with Lesley a couple weeks ago, she said they dont go lower than 2mm for strength purpose, did it feel secure to you since yours is even a ct larger than mine will be? did you use that setting enough to even notice? gifts are always welcome

let me know if you happen to find it ...

You''re a gem to find in this world of mischief.

wrote something last night, but guess the toasted everything from yesterday.