OMG!! David Klass contacted me!!

[Crazyaboutrings68]

@Oval-SweetiePie Looking more closely at your CAD I think DK has adjusted the shape of the bezel so the round diamond appears more like @caolsen's square cushion. Your first CAD is looking very good!

I think your choice of the color of the bezel gold is personal preference but I'm a firm believer in "if it isn't broken don't fix it". You know the color of @caolsen's bezel is just about perfect, and is a major contributor to the overall beauty of the ring. Are you sure you want to take the risk of doing something different?

Do you think I should stick with yellow gold? I love all colors of gold, so I think I just want to go with whatever color compliments the center stone best or makes it pop.

Yellow gold was my first initial thought though.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

I’m starting to get excited about this project!! At first it was just really a way to use the ugly stone I had and hopefully try to get a look similar to @caolsen ring.

Talking to everyone has helped me immensely and I am sooooo grateful for all of you!!!

Thanks so much

 

[cushioncutnut]

I’m definitely doing yellow or rose gold for the bezel. I’m going to have DK look at the stone and see what he thinks would look best with it as well.

Btw……your ring in your avatar is gorgeous!! Absolutely beautiful!!

Thank you! I can't wait to see it and what little "spin" you put on it making it unique to you!

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

Thank you! I can't wait to see it and what little "spin" you put on it making it unique to you!

Thanks!! I’m hoping I can turn this ugly stone into something more palatable. Lol

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

Not to re-hash this but I am still completely confused about the 3 mm melee being big enough to give me the look like @caolsen has with her ring.

What am I missing? Why do I keep thinking I need bigger melee?

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

What about antique, or tulip gold? Which is a mix of pink and yellow. it’s a very subtle difference to yellow gold but makes certain stones POP. I used it for my Very Faint Pink OEC.

Here is a ring DK made for me using that mix…

That tri wire band is gorgeous!!

 

[CaseyLouLou]

Not to re-hash this but I am still completely confused about the 3 mm melee being big enough to give me the look like @caolsen has with her ring.

What am I missing? Why do I keep thinking I need bigger melee?

I just read through this thread and I think you are correct that 3mm will be perfect since your stone is a similar diameter. I don’t think you need to go bigger. 3mm is a chunky halo.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

I just read through this thread and I think you are correct that 3mm will be perfect since your stone is a similar diameter. I don’t think you need to go bigger. 3mm is a chunky halo.

Thank you so much!! That makes me feel so much better because I really wanted to use stones I already had and not shell out more $$$ for this center stone.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

I just saw this ring on DK’s instagram and I’m hoping to get a similar look color wise with the yellow bezel.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

I just saw this ring on DK’s instagram and I’m hoping to get a similar look color wise with the yellow bezel.

My stone has a lot of brown in it. It just isn’t showing much in the pictures I posted earlier.

 

[CaseyLouLou]

I just saw this ring on DK’s instagram and I’m hoping to get a similar look color wise with the yellow bezel.

I think the yellow gold will contrast better with a brownish stone whereas rose gold could blend in with the stone because it has more orange/brown tones.

 

[MamaBee]

I think the yellow gold will contrast better with a brownish stone whereas rose gold could blend in with the stone because it has more orange/brown tones.

This is @YadaYadaYada ’s ring! It’s a beauty!

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

I think the yellow gold will contrast better with a brownish stone whereas rose gold could blend in with the stone because it has more orange/brown tones.

Very true!! I really love a good contrast too. Thanks

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

This is @YadaYadaYada ’s ring! It’s a beauty!

It is beautiful!! So glad I saw it because the center stone is almost exactly the same color as mine is in real life. Under regular lighting (house lighting) it almost looks exactly the same color.

 

[Rfisher]

Not to re-hash this but I am still completely confused about the 3 mm melee being big enough to give me the look like @caolsen has with her ring.

What am I missing? Why do I keep thinking I need bigger melee?

~~ In looking at your cad, compared to @calosen ‘s beauty and lining up the background grid lines to view them both equally to same scale ~~

I think the overall look in proportions of centerstone to halo/cluster stones between them are very very similar.
The footprint measurements of the cluster halos are almost identical if not identical.
You will have more metal bezel showing due to round vs cushion shape of center stone.

increasing the diameter of your cluster stones and keeping the same outline shape will increase the width of the metal bezel next to your center stone even more - or you’ll have to change the cluster shape. It will be a different look altogether.

no right or wrong here.
it is hard making these choices!

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

~~ In looking at your cad, compared to @calosen ‘s beauty and lining up the background grid lines to view them both equally to same scale ~~

I think the overall look in proportions of centerstone to halo/cluster stones between them are very very similar.
The footprint measurements of the cluster halos are almost identical if not identical.
You will have more metal bezel showing due to round vs cushion shape of center stone.

increasing the diameter of your cluster stones and keeping the same outline shape will increase the width of the metal bezel next to your center stone even more - or you’ll have to change the cluster shape. It will be a different look altogether.

no right or wrong here.
it is hard making these choices!

I wonder why the width of the halo on my CAD is 14.30 and @caolsen is at 15.45 since the bezel will be larger (more metal).

But don’t you think her CAD looks chunkier?

Idk….this is so confusing!! I’m going to just let DK know I want my ring to look exactly like her ring with the exception of the round stone and different color. Ugh!! I’m going to have to trust that he will do that and I’m sure he will considering his rings are gorgeous and so many people have rings by him.

Keeping the faith!!!

 

[Rfisher]

I wonder why the width of the halo on my CAD is 14.30 and @caolsen is at 15.45 since the bezel will be larger (more metal).

But don’t you think her CAD looks chunkier?

Idk….this is so confusing!! I’m going to just let DK know I want my ring to look exactly like her ring with the exception of the round stone and different color. Ugh!! I’m going to have to trust that he will do that and I’m sure he will considering his rings are gorgeous and so many people have rings by him.

Keeping the faith!!!

Her cad measure points including the outside of the prongs.
Your cad measure points are the stones themselves.

part of the difference you see is the way the cad program was done / what style they chose to image.
either a different version of same program or maybe even a different user‘s preference. I honestly do not know if that makes a difference in the end result or not.

Your questions are valid ones to ask DKJ. Asking them helps them give you an end project that meets your vision.

one of those things also,might include requesting the same bench to produce yours, that did hers. Because I do believe a different bench will give a different final look even from the same cad.

 

[caolsen]

I wonder why the width of the halo on my CAD is 14.30 and @caolsen is at 15.45 since the bezel will be larger (more metal).

But don’t you think her CAD looks chunkier?

Idk….this is so confusing!! I’m going to just let DK know I want my ring to look exactly like her ring with the exception of the round stone and different color. Ugh!! I’m going to have to trust that he will do that and I’m sure he will considering his rings are gorgeous and so many people have rings by him.

Keeping the faith!!!

I think I know part of what is different. I asked DK to angle my halo down, versus the tables of the halo stones being level. My halo angles downward off true ‘level’.

I think that’s why when you compare the CADs you see more of my halo stone’s tables versus the side on view of your stones whose girdles are what you see when viewing horizontally.

Here is a CVB sapphire with a Yurom OEC halo with a similar slanted halo I used as inspiration for the slanted haloe on my DK OMC piece. I love this piece, love wearing it. My DK halo is not as slanted as the CVB halo, but that was a vibe I was going for with DK.

 

[caolsen]

Is this 18k gold?

Yup, my halo is 18 karat and the rest is platinum.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

Her cad measure points including the outside of the prongs.
Your cad measure points are the stones themselves.

part of the difference you see is the way the cad program was done / what style they chose to image.
either a different version of same program or maybe even a different user‘s preference. I honestly do not know if that makes a difference in the end result or not.

Your questions are valid ones to ask DKJ. Asking them helps them give you an end project that meets your vision.

one of those things also,might include requesting the same bench to produce yours, that did hers. Because I do believe a different bench will give a different final look even from the same cad.

Ok. I didn’t even realize that the measurements were at the prongs/at the stones.

I will definitely ask for the same bench.
Thanks so much!! I’m so glad you are all here to help

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

I think I know part of what is different. I asked DK to angle my halo down, versus the tables of the halo stones being level. My halo angles downward off true ‘level’.

I think that’s why when you compare the CADs you see more of my halo stone’s tables versus the side on view of your stones whose girdles are what you see when viewing horizontally.

Here is a CVB sapphire with a Yurom OEC halo with a similar slanted halo I used as inspiration for the slanted haloe on my DK OMC piece. I love this piece, love wearing it. My DK halo is not as slanted as the CVB halo, but that was a vibe I was going for with DK.

Ok. Makes sense. I also asked to slant the halo downwards but I will mention it again and attach a picture of your ring with my next email. Thank you for all your help with this. Hugs.

 

[caolsen]

Ok. Makes sense. I also asked to slant the halo downwards but I will mention it again and attach a picture of your ring with my next email. Thank you for all your help with this. Hugs.

This type of inspiration and collaboration is what makes PS so wonderful

I remember DK telling me there were limits to how far the halo could slant. It was a function of the center stones depth/height compared to the halo stones … or something like that - wasn’t going to burden him asking for a layman’s explanation of the why. I asked him to slant it down as far as he could and left it at that.

 

[caolsen]

Ok. I didn’t even realize that the measurements were at the prongs/at the stones.

I will definitely ask for the same bench.
Thanks so much!! I’m so glad you are all here to help

Great call on asking for the same bench @Rfisher - And @Oval-SweetiePie - my halo prongs are claws. Assume DK would replicate those as well for you, but I specifically asked for shared claw prongs.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

This type of inspiration and collaboration is what makes PS so wonderful

I remember DK telling me there were limits to how far the halo could slant. It was a function of the center stones depth/height compared to the halo stones … or something like that - wasn’t going to burden him asking for a layman’s explanation of the why. I asked him to slant it down as far as he could and left it at that.

I would be very happy just to have it slant down as much as your halo does. That ring is absolute perfection!! Which is why I’m trying to copy it as close as possible. Hehe!!

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

Great call on asking for the same bench @Rfisher - And @Oval-SweetiePie - my halo prongs are claws. Assume DK would replicate those as well for you, but I specifically asked for shared claw prongs.

Definitely will do!! So glad I’m on this site!! It is so helpful when I have absolutely no knowledge of ring making/design!! All of you have helped me so much and I’m forever grateful

 

[caolsen]

Why am I so confused about this?

DK is going to do a cushion bezel and halo around my round stone but the stone faces up at 7.6 so I was thinking that even though it’s a smaller weight stone, it faced up larger than your OMC and I would need larger than 3 mm melee? Omg!! I’m so confused.

If I don’t need larger melee and can use my 3 mm stones, that would be ideal because it would save me a boat load of money. I just really want the look/proportions as your ring has but with my stone. Or as close as I can get to those proportions.

I love a chunky halo and yours hit the perfect spot with that without looking like a cluster ring.

I think your 3mm is just about right. Since David is going to square up the round stone outline to marry up to my ring, the outline of the halos will be very similar.

On the size comment and my chunky monkey OMC, sorry I wasn’t specific in what I was describing. I meant the overall size, aesthetically, as my ring size is smaller. My ring is a 6.5 while I actually have a 6 sized finger. My knuckles are starting to show their age so I go up a half size on all my rings. My rings are lose between the first and second knuckle. The finger coverage of the piece is going to be different between my version and yours.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

I think your 3mm is just about right. Since David is going to square up the round stone outline to marry up to my ring, the outline of the halos will be very similar.

On the size comment and my chunky monkey OMC, sorry I wasn’t specific in what I was describing. I meant the overall size, aesthetically, as my ring size is smaller. My ring is a 6.5 while I actually have a 6 sized finger. My knuckles are starting to show their age so I go up a half size on all my rings. My rings are lose between the first and second knuckle. The finger coverage of the piece is going to be different between my version and yours.

Here is where I’m confused…still. Ugh!!

In the CAD’s of both of our rings, even though your ring is larger in carat size, mine faces up at 7.6 and your stone faces up at 6.8 x 6.9, so using 3 mm melee for mine, I’m not getting that it will have the same chunky puffy halo look that I LOVE about your ring. Am I confused? Lol

I am a size 7 but always go to a 7.25 for swelling, ring stacking, etc.

So another concern I have is finger coverage. Your ring measures at 15.45 for top diameter of ring and mine will be 14.30. Which won’t give me the same finger coverage you have, which I don’t understand and is there any way to get that diameter larger without looking like a full- on cluster ring?

Yours is perfectly proportioned and I’m trying to do the same. That’s why I’m so confused about using 3 mm melee.

 

[caolsen]

This afternoon, I’ll get the digital calipers out and measure. The CAD measures prong to prong in abstract, before the halo stones were set and the prongs pushed down & finished. So there is BOUND to be variance from the CAD.

As for finger coverage, math is math. My fingers are a bit smaller. My circle is smaller and more of the arch covers the visible top of my finger. Only way to replicate the real life look is bigger center, bigger bezel and bigger halo portioned to the size variance between the ring sizes.

But that is overkill - we are talking less than a millimeter. Grab a ruler and really eye ball how damn small a mm is.

 

[Rfisher]

@Oval-SweetiePie
You can also always ask DKJ to do a new cad exploring 3.5mm stones and see what they come up with. The footprint of your center stone bezel/metal area will have to go larger though - for those larger diamonds to fit.

I do think the angle of the cluster diamonds on your current cad and calosen’s are already very similar.

Asking for a wax to be made from your cad and shipped to you is a great way to see finger coverage.

 

[Crazyaboutrings68]

This afternoon, I’ll get the digital calipers out and measure. The CAD measures prong to prong in abstract, before the halo stones were set and the prongs pushed down & finished. So there is BOUND to be variance from the CAD.

As for finger coverage, math is math. My fingers are a bit smaller. My circle is smaller and more of the arch covers the visible top of my finger. Only way to replicate the real life look is bigger center, bigger bezel and bigger halo portioned to the size variance between the ring sizes.

But that is overkill - we are talking less than a millimeter. Grab a ruler and really eye ball how damn small a mm is.

Thanks so much. @Rfisher did explain the CAD to me but I forgot because I’ve been home sick all weekend

Yes, it would be overkill trying to get a bigger stone, etc and really this project is a way to use that diamond that’s been sitting in my jewelry box forever.

Thank you for all your help.