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i found some GISELLE''s on sale for 14.00. they are a size 1.5.
Since she''s still a newborn, I figure any size would work.
She''ll eventually fit into them but I''m wondering if that would work during the winter months.
I guess she could wear them with socks?
 
Burk, Tayva''s smile just melts my heart!

Tacori, Tessa is so cute~ can''t believe she is standing!!
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So little B been sleeping thru the night since he was 3 months old. But he when he turned 5 months on the 11th he stop sleeping thru the night. He''ll scream bloody murder 2~3 times thru out the night. sometime is because he need to be burped sometime it''s because he want a bottle (took us a while to figure that out because he haven''t had a night feeding since he was 3 months) sometime we just don''t know why he got up and scream...

DH and I are so tired we''re like two bombs ready to set off any minute....
 
Momma, that is a great price. I love my Giselle. Totally my style though. I think you could wear them with thin socks. I never thought about it!

Bobo, thanks. Maybe little B is teething? Don''t you wish they could talk and tell us!


When can babies wear ear phones? Random but I am getting nervous about our 4 hour plane ride in a few weeks.
 
BoBo.. ugh. i know that sleepless, i''m gonna flip out feeling. that''s what we''re goin through as well. But Z is a newborn so that is expected.
My 3 year old is fully potty trained so he does his 4 am bird call.. MOMMA I NEED TO GO NOW! so DH gets up for him. then awhile later, Z is
up and hungry. then daylight comes and i have no energy to get dressed and get out of the house.. so my son goes batty (cabin fever) and
the vicious cycle starts again.

I''m not sure what method it''s called but it''s the one where you wait 5 minutes before going in to see why he''s crying.
when you go to him, you are to keep it dark and very quiet. do not feed him or pick him up. Console him by patting him and whispering
to him that you are there for him. then leave.
everytime you go in, you wait longer. 10 minutes the next visit, 15 min. etc.
i did that with my son whenever he woke up at night. he started sleeping through the night at 6 weeks so i stopped the night feedings.
but then at some point later, he would wake and I didnt know why. I just let him cry it out and figure things out. Now he sleeps fine on his
own and only wakes to go potty
Hope it gets better.
 
Tacori, do babies start teething that early? I so wish he can talk....I''m no help with the ear phones question. Maybe you can ask Tessa''s pedi?

Momma, because he''s been sleeping thru the night for so long we''re just scare that maybe he is in pain or something so DH always just jump out of the bed and pick him up right away (he share a room with us)
 
bobo, they can. Is he drooling a lot? Is he eating the same amount? My pedi suggests the 15 min rule. If after 15 mins he is still crying something is wrong.
 
Date: 7/14/2008 3:15:06 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring
bobo, they can. Is he drooling a lot? Is he eating the same amount? My pedi suggests the 15 min rule. If after 15 mins he is still crying something is wrong.

he is not drooling a lot, but he seems like he is choking on his saliva very often. He is eating more than before.

I'll try the 15 min. rule tonight.
 
Mommyhood has me so sleep deprived these days. James is a really good baby but has his days and nights confused so I find myself up a lot at night holding and consoling him. He''s eating about every three hours. He breastfed really good at the hospital but after the first few days at home he got used to the bottle and refused the breast. He''d root around for it and sometimes latch but mostly he''d just mouth at my nipple
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. When my milk came in it was like trying to get him to nurse a baseball, which he didn''t like and then I only managed to pump a little more than an ounce total before I completely dried up. I''m disappointed in myself because I really wanted to breastfeed and I think I should have tried harder. Needless to say, James is on formula now and seems to tolerate it well.

When do babies eyes begin to change color? My hubby has brown eyes and I have blue eyes so we are curious to see what James has. His hair is strawberry blonde and so nice. I''ll have to post some more pics of him when I get the chance. He''s so handsome (just like his daddy
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I had a post-partum visit one week after delivery and I lost 20 pounds
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. I''m feeling pretty good about my figure, although James has left my tummy a bit deflated.

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Diva--Try keeping James near a window often during the day (apparently helps set the day/night thing). My L &D nurse also suggested not letting the baby nap longer than 2 hours at a time during the day. I would hate to wake a sleeping baby, but if you are desperate maybe u could try it.
--glad you are feeling good, don''t feel guilty about the BF--guilt sucks and moms feel enough of it. You gave it a shot and he''ll be just fine
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Pics pics pics...love the pics! All this talk of baby shoes...I''m going to have to look into those next.

Diva, don''t feel bad about the BFing thing. Amelia''s on formula too and is fine. I tried like crazy for two months...never even gave her a bottle until she was 4 or so weeks old I think...I was so scared she''d refuse the breast (I used a SNS to supplement). At first I could only pump 1/3 of an ounce but with the SNS (stimulating my milk production) I maxed out at 2 ozs (only at the morning pump though...the rest weren''t even an ounce) and I finally thought...ya know what? This is ridiculous!!!

I really thought I would miss BFing (I loved it when I used the SNS and and also for a few weeks afterward when I combo BF''ed and bottlefed.). I do miss the closeness, but for the most part, I don''t even think about it anymore. I''ve got bigger fish to fry!
 
wow...wondering how in the world ill be able to catch up with everything going on here
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ive been pretty busy the past week and havent had much time to do much posting/reading...

YAY to all the baby pics!!! love them all..

and sorry to hear about the sleepless nites some of u ladies are going thru..i hear u!! TOTALLY hear u!!! but i promise, this will also pass and ur baby WILL go back to sleeping better...

okay...i need to do more personal posts, so will have to go back and forth and read thru the 10 pages i missed and will come back! :)
 
belated happy 100 day celebration to TGAL and Amelia! she''s beautiful!!!!

mrs s: I cant believe jake is 3 mo already! wow...he is quite a cutie, love his expression in his pic with the bear. How are you handling life with 3 kids now? any big adjustments? or is it biz as usual? are you back to working out a lot?


TAcori: i can understand you being pi$$ed off at your mil. food allergies weren''t as understood in their generation, and it really ticks me off when g''parents don''t respect the wishes of new parents. I mean, c''mon, we are the ones inundated with the new information, NOT them. *rolling eyes* i''m glad my mom & stepmom always read up on the latest & greatest & always called me first to ask if it was ok to give this, that or the other. My mil on the other hand would probably hand one of my kids a peanut butter & strawberry sandwich at 6mos... LOL.

fwiw, whole milk can now be given around 9 or 10 months, but if your punkin is small, just keep on the formula till 12 mos. I personally will keep doing formula until 12 mos, I like all the dha/ara goodness & vitamins...but that''s just me. ((hugs))

Mommabear: oh I remember you well! Welcome & congrats!!! I have your ring bookmarked in case I ever have a windfall, I''m going to set a round sapphire (blue) in it as a rhr. It is my faaaaaavveee setting. Your pics are wonderful!

Stephens bride: omg...yogababy...lol...your girl and mine need to get together. Daners does a wicked down dog& plank.

Burk: I''m sorry your dh was right...lol...isn''t it amazing how thrilled they are with mere crap? Delaney was all agog over an empty water bottle one day, and then half of a plastic easter egg the other. She threw that damn egg around for HOURS. silly babies.

Ella: add Daners to shriekers...she has a scream that can strip furniture. ouch!

Jas: I am way over my wedding weight too. In fact I went and saw my primary care today & he said "well you look great" and then I told him to look at my weight before I had kids. He was surprised to see I was actually close to 20lbs overweight. I guess I hide it well. Spending too much $$ on clothes will do that . LOL.


Diva: I had all sorts of bfing issues too. My kids are bottlefed and fine. I 100% would have preferred to breast feed them, but truly, formula is great too. Just love them to pieces and they''ll flourish & thrive.

Me news: I had my blood drawn today for a complete workup. I am tired of feeling flabby, sluggish, tired, exhausted (and I have children who SLEEP like the dead for long stretches, so I can''t claim baby-induced-fatigue) periods all wacked, face breaking out willy nilly, hair all snappy & dry, bruising like a s.o.b., cold as hell all the time...oh wait....could it be thyroid? I have such a time lugging my sorry a$$ out of bed in the morning whether I get 8, 9, or 10 hours of sleep, its never enough I''m flopped out by 3pm. I have a good diet, I exercise a lot...so what the eff? A lot of my symptoms have been chronic for the last 8 years, I just figured it was stress related. we''ll see. I''m sure they''ll say its nothing & if so, I''m headed for the first naturopath I can find. I really think my hormones are wacked...I have a ton of fibroids..those are generally caused by too much estrogen (and Im not on the pill, my tubes are tied...i''m drug free)


Haircut city: So my haircut disaster might have been a blessing in disguise. I am now happy with having shorter hair....HOWEVAH...my cut is all crooked...so tonight I went online & surfed for pics under "bob hairstyle". My 20 year reunion is next month & I figure I had better get something fixed asap. So I have an appt for next week, and have fallen in love with one version of Katie Holmes'' cut. (not her latest incarnation) I went into my bathroom & pinned my hair under into a makeshift bob. I have to say, i was kind of excited to see the nape of my neck. I always thought short hair made me look fatter (where I come up with this shtuff is beyond me) but I think it lightens me up a bit...and I have a strong jawline & good profile so hte way it followed my jaw looked good to me! So what the hell...I''ll go for it.

now to decide...keep my dark brown locks or do a few soft highlights for depth. I really love my color right now.

did anyone else get their haircut? Ella? Mrs.S?

here is what I like:

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Here is another version...my hair is already this color....

I want my neck to show like this!! Sexy!! I think dh will like it. I used to wear my hair just like this in the early 90s...I loved it! What do you guys think?

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Post-partum depression anyone?!

i failed to mention that one month prior to giving birth to Zoe, I bought a house.
2 weeks before i birthed her, we moved...
lets layer this some more!!
my son is at the pinnacle of his TERRIBLE TWOs..
We''re adding on a nursery.. (can you feel the stress and tension yet?)
Zoe''s 1 month party (chinese cultural celebration of baby) is this Saturday and the house
is still a disaster... boxes everywhere. Z''s nursery still undone...
OMG.
I don''t know what i was thinking..

this too shall pass.
My poor DH suffers the grunt of my psycho-ness. What a good man
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here we are.. I''m 5 months round at a military ball

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Two men in my life
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at Westpoint for a graduation

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Diva, sleep deprivation is totally normal! The first 4 months were really tough on me. She didn''t sleep through the night until 6 months. Even now it is exhausting. She just has so much energy!

BFing is tough. It took me SO much work and I thought it would be the most natural thing in the world. I agree there is nothing you can do about it now. I am sure you tried everything you could. Embrace the formula.

Babies eyes can change up to their first birthday. My doc said usually what they have at 6 months is what they will have. I have brown and DH has bright blue eyes. T''s are grayish-blue.

TGal, there is something liberating about your baby being weened. Like could leave her for x number of hours without pain/worry/her starvation
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Diver, you are lucky they ask you. I think it might be an issue with MIL later. Like her sneaking T things we ask her not to. Oh well. Can''t deal with it now
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I know she is close to the milk is ok age but still...Hey, what is the deal with the next formula stage (that begins at 9 months)? Did you use it for Jake?

I love that haircut! So cute. Post a picture for sure.

Ella, forgot to add before T is also a screamer! At least it seems to be normal.

Momma, hope you feel better!
 
Date: 7/15/2008 7:37:34 AM
Author: Tacori E-ring
Diva, sleep deprivation is totally normal! The first 4 months were really tough on me. She didn't sleep through the night until 6 months. Even now it is exhausting. She just has so much energy!

BFing is tough. It took me SO much work and I thought it would be the most natural thing in the world. I agree there is nothing you can do about it now. I am sure you tried everything you could. Embrace the formula.

Babies eyes can change up to their first birthday. My doc said usually what they have at 6 months is what they will have. I have brown and DH has bright blue eyes. T's are grayish-blue.

TGal, there is something liberating about your baby being weened. Like could leave her for x number of hours without pain/worry/her starvation
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Diver, you are lucky they ask you. I think it might be an issue with MIL later. Like her sneaking T things we ask her not to. Oh well. Can't deal with it now
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I know she is close to the milk is ok age but still...Hey, what is the deal with the next formula stage (that begins at 9 months)? Did you use it for Jake?

I love that haircut! So cute. Post a picture for sure.

Ella, forgot to add before T is also a screamer! At least it seems to be normal.

Momma, hope you feel better!
Tacori, that makes me so mad, I have seen my MIL do it with my SIL's baby a few years ago, he was very young and still nursing, she would do things like sneak him peas behind SIL's back when she made her wishes clear that he was too young for solids! I don't understand why they have to do this....
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Bobo, have you started solids yet for little B? When Gabe started waking up again during the night after STTN, it's because he was hungry -- and ready to start solids!!

MommaBear, we got our Pedipeds at a local store as well. Katelyn's got the Olivias, and Gabe's got the Collins - they're SO cute!!! I love both these and the Robeez and look forward to buying them new fall shoes in a few months
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And sorry about everything going on at once. You said it though: this too shall pass. And someday you'll be able to look back on it and be like, "Daaayum! I AM Wonder Woman!!"
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Diva, ahhh, welcome to the wonderful world of BFing woes!! Back when you were a naive preggo, I bet you thought "Eh, I can do it no problem!" right? But it's HARD!! I mean, I think almost all of us (maybe MrsS and a few others excluded?) had issues with it. You tried, and that's all you can do ... James will thrive just fine on formula, so no worries, Mama! Believe me, I understand how disappointing it is to not have it work out (I tried for three months with two babies, and I really gave it my all and tried every trick in the book to increase my supply) and I'm not trying to belittle that disappointment, I just want you to know that you cant' beat yourself up over it.

Diver, I LOVE that photo of Katie's hair and you look like you've got just the right kind of hair for that cut -- DO IT!!! I think it'd be just smashing on you! And I'm into solid colored hair right now. I love shiny chestnut brown hair with no highlights. So pretty -- and much easier than keeping up with highlights maintenance!

My parents/in-laws haven't tried anything with the babies yet thankfully. But the thing that cracks me up is when they send clothes and then think that ONLY the clothes they send are cute.
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OK, I think that my camera is broken because I am SUPER UGLY in every photo I try to take of my hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF??! I swear I used to be photogenic, so either (1) this haircut is truly heinous on me; (2) the babies totally stole my looks; (3) my camera has some type of "ugly lens" on it; or (4) I am just not aging well. Agh. This is bumming me out.

ETA: Hmm, the babies are still taking cute photos though, so I don't think the camera is broken or using an ugly lens. So it's me. Waaaaaaaaaaaah.
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Diver--from the pics i have seen of you i think that your hair will look super cute in a bob--you gals and your talk of new cuts are really tempting me. I need to get on that.
--Sounds like you have a lot of the thyroid symptoms--i hope you get some answers.

Mommabear--ouch, that''s a lot to take on right now, can you get someone to help out with the moving and the party (maybe a teenager in the fam you can hire for a few hours to help you get organized)

Diva--forgot to mention that Cohen''s eyes were dark blue when he was born and they seem to be lightening on a weekly basis so i think it happens gradually over the first year of life.

MrsS. I was wondering how you are finding 3 little ones as well--you never complain (i feel like such a whiner compared to some of you super moms) but i have heard the jump from 2-3 is a lot more difficult than the jump from 1-2 and 3-4 just cuz things are usually designed for pairs when it comes to family stuff.
 
Date: 7/15/2008 4:43:54 AM
Author: MommaBear
Post-partum depression anyone?!


i failed to mention that one month prior to giving birth to Zoe, I bought a house.

2 weeks before i birthed her, we moved...

lets layer this some more!!

my son is at the pinnacle of his TERRIBLE TWOs..

We''re adding on a nursery.. (can you feel the stress and tension yet?)

Zoe''s 1 month party (chinese cultural celebration of baby) is this Saturday and the house

is still a disaster... boxes everywhere. Z''s nursery still undone...

OMG.

I don''t know what i was thinking..


this too shall pass.
Hi Momma Bear,
I found the ''comedown'' from my second baby a bit tough as well. You kinda think it''ll be a breeze because you''ve done it before - and everybody warns you but you can''t see what they''re getting at (well that''s how it was for me, anyway)
The first six months are kinda intense (just like round one) but it''ll settle down. By Zoe''s first birthday, you''ll be feeling better, and by her second, you''ll be feeling great!
No one seems as understanding second time around either - you''re just meant to go on, being even more of a mother than you were before, it''s not so big a deal
To anyone else...
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hmm, hope I made you feel better... ring your mum and tell her to come over and organise your party, quick!
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Quick question: how do you all bathe your babies? We''ve officially (waaay) outgrown the tub in the sink, and we''ve tried using the Primo tub (which we got because Baby Bargains recommends it) in the big bathtub and Gabe HATES it. Last night he and K took their first bath together, and it was a nightmare. Screaming in symphony the entire time (his screams were upsetting her, so she''d scream ... and so on ... and so on ...). I mean, we had to laugh because it was just so horrendous!

So now we''re thinking either tub rings/seats or just holding them sitting up in the tub one at a time. The tub rings I''ve seen are like $30 though, and I really don''t want to spend $60 on bathtime, you know?

What do you guys do, in particular for babies that aren''t sitting up on their own yet?

TIA!
 
Ella--i am facing the same issue--Cohen has almost outgrown his bathtub--my living room (where we bathe him for some odd reason) gets a shower each bath session cuz he kicks and splashes the whole time. I was going to try the seat as well, but have not yet.
If i remember correctly my co-worker with twins when thru a few months where she actually bathed *with* the twins just so it was easier on her back and they fussed less--don''t know if that is something u would want to try??
 
ella, I fill about 2 inches of water in the tub and lay Jake in it. his mouth can't touch the water if he turns his head and then I just use a washcloth to clean him. He LOVES it, loves to kick is legs and move his arms. I've been doing it since about 4 weeks though so that's what he's use to. I think bathing your kids one at a time at this point might help you?? ETA: or Jas's idea of bathing with them. I've done that too.

diver- LOVE Katie holmes hair. I think it would look adorable on you. i didn't cut mine yet. My appt. is in aug. and I'm to chicken to go super short. I will get a few inches cut off though.

re: going from 2 to 2 kids. It's actually been great. I think going from 1 to 2 was much harder. Possibly it was due to the close age of my girls, both is diapers etc. Jake just blends right in. My goal each day is to find activies fun for my girls and Jake just tags along. He's a really easy baby though and that helps. My family calls him "chill baby" b/c he just hardly cries/whines complains. He's very content most of the time. speaking of Jake..aka..the fridge..he rolled over last night..back to tummy. It took him about 2 minutes but he rolled onto his side, stayed in that position for a minute and then rolled onto his belly. He is crazy strong for a 3 month old. So, he rolls both directions,fluke or not..he's still done it. my little baby is growing up too fast
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our house is for sale and i've got a showing in an hour...off to finish cleaning. will catch the rest of you in a bit.
 
A lot of moms on twins forum use this: http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2390251 For $7, I can try that and see if it''s any good! They seem to say that bath seats/rings are sort of a waste since you really don''t use them for too long. And there''s no way I''d ever bathe them both myself! God, no. It was me and hubby together, and we figured that maybe they''d get comfort from each other in the BIG SCARY tub, you know? Plus what''s cuter than two naked babies? (A: Two NON-SCREAMING naked babies!)

Diver, were you thinking bangs or no bangs? Do you know for sure that your hair doesn''t have any cowlicks? Is it stick straight? Just keep in mind that Katie''s hair is super-styled in those photos and that her day-to-day hair looks more like this (and is sort of how mine looks now):

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Ella: I was thinking bangs, cuz I have bangs right now...and I know that''s a style I have to "style" every day, but I''ve had it twice. Once when I was 22 to 24, and then again when I was 31 to 32...(I''m 37 now) Oh, and I sorta had it in 2006 for a few months, but I didn''t go quite that short, so I just grew it out. No my hair isn''t stick straight, but its mostly straight, and the only cowlick I have is in my front....at my part, so its not a bother.

hang on...
 
ok here is my hair now...

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And here is the side....see..it just kind of hangs there, and this is waking up, not showering, and working out...so it hasn''t been "done" yet per se...

So you like the color?

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Lorelei, I think in her head she thinks she raised two great, healthy children (which she did) so she is more experienced than I am. I agree that there are certain things she does know more than I do. I am a rookie BUT unlike Diver''s mom and MIL *I* read the latest studies, listen to my pedi, talk to OTHER moms with young children she does not. Her ideas are outdated. She would always sneak a blanket into her crib as an infant. Used to make me so mad!
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She even made jokes about how I could come in behind her and take it off.
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It is a sticky situation b/c obviously I do not want to be disrespectful but of course when she does these thing *I* feel disrespected. Once they move closer I WILL set up boundries.

Ella, I am sure you look great. Don''t even get me started on MIL''s choice of clothing for her....*sigh* she tries....How funny T still fits in her rainforest tub (w/o the sling). MIL bathes her in a few inches of water with a towel under her (for less slip). But she is a good sitter. I bet they will be sitting on their own soon!

MrsS, oh so is the move back on? That he awesome he is such a chill baby. I do think the bigger age gap would really help.
 
tAcori, you gotta lay a smack down on her a$$. My MIL is like your MIL. (its my mom & stepmom who were informed) And she was bragging about the different times she smacked/spanked my SILs kids & her own kids back in the day.

I told her in NO UNCERTAIN terms that if she ever laid a hand on any of my children, and I don''t care if they went so far as to commit a murder, there would be grave consequences & she would never be allowed to be around them without my supervision. And there has been a few things she''s tried to do, and I jumped all over her. It pissed her off bigtime, but truly, I don''t care. I love my MIL, but I love my kids more. I''m tough though, I''m very outspoken & not shy about conflict if its about my children. And my DH can''t stand his mom, so he doesn''t care if I get in her grill. I know your DH is close with his parents, so you have a more delicate situation. Mine has my back. LOL. (I sound pretty gangsta don''t I?)

MommaBear: get on some antidepressants. If you are nursing you can take Zoloft. If you aren''t my faves are Wellbutrin and Lexapro. I think all new moms should go on them for the first 12 months. It has taken the edge off and helped me not get the blues. And yes, this too shall pass.

Ok...my monkeys are rattling their cages, time to go rassle them up.
 
Ella: and that pic you posted of KH? Where her hair looks messy? I believe that is her newer version (I like the older) and she has a lot of short layers. I like the bob that is almost one length, with a few layers towards the ends so it lays nicer. But her short layers are all poofed up & wayward in that shot.
 
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