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The Official TTC Thread!

Thanks festy and others for sharing your thoughts/perspectives on the possibility of what you might or might not want to do going forward.

I really don''t think that people have a right to be offended by anyone else''s choice. The decision to have or not to have children is so personal. Also, although people may think "oh, i would never do such and such . . ." I don''t think someone honestly knows what they will do until they are sitting in that situation, faced with choices that have until then have been mere hypotheticals.

As for me, the lines are really blurry with regard to potential "interventions." I don''t think I would be opposed to taking clomid. However, I don''t have any problems ovulating, so the issue is moot. At this point, I do not want to have anything to do with IVF and for many of the same reasons that Festy articulated. I''m not ethically opposed to the process, just personally don''t think that I could go through it. But, for my husband and I, our options for making a family don''t end there as we are open to adoption.

For us, we have to figure out how much longer we continue to TTC and when do we start seriously considering initiating any adoption process. Some days, I feel like I want to give our bodies a chance for many more months to come, while on other days, I just want our family.

What I really have to do is get myself together and get that HSG - the final IF *diagnostic* - because we need more information in order to move forward. I''ve been stalling for the last few cycles, because I keep (wishfully) thinking that I will just get pregnant one of these times and because I''m nearly positive that the HSG will turn up nothing - which is not reassuring at this point.

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Fishie (and others): I don''t think you should feel bad at all for expressing your feelings about whether to pursue other help and treatments or not. That is why this board, and particularly this thread, is such a great support place during this time- to be able to discuss ALL of the different sides of TTC and being preggo, both good and bad, without judgement. And I don''t think that by stating that you would not pursue other options that necessarily means you don''t understand or support others that do. This is so personal, and such an important decision, you can only do what''s right for you.

I personally would probably have no problem doing IVF or other treatments, but I don''t know b/c I haven''t been in that position yet. I am also very pro-adoption, so I would definitely consider that as well.

Just a story to share- one of my closest friends tried for over a year, maybe even two years to get preggo and nothing ever worked. I don''t remember all of the details but I do know that she went through nearly every test and procedure that has been discussed here. She was always so calm about the whole thing and one time I told her how much I admired her strength and patience. She told me she somehow "knew" she was going to have to do IVF, and was just waiting to get there, and that she also just "knew" that it would work. Sure enough, she did have to do IVF, it worked, and she has an adorable 9 month old son. Here''s the interesting part of the story though- she just found out she is pregnant again. But they didn''t do ANYTHING this time- she just never went back on BC, and it happened naturally.

My point of this is simply to share one woman''s journey that had a successful ending. Also, just that bodies and hormones are mysterious and do their own thing, and sometimes it may just require time and patience and faith.

Lulu- Hope you don''t mind, but I directed Ebree on the preggo thread to some nursery inspiration pics you had posted awhile back in the nursery thread. You have such stunning, great taste!
 
Congrats Anchor!

Ladies, I will be joining the rest of you in TTC! I hope you can make room for one more.
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DH and I got married on 11/8/08. We are officially ready to start trying. We 'sort of' made an attempt last month (I wasn't charting) but I'm not sure if we timed it right or anything since I didn't chart or use OPKs. We did it unprotected a few times in the middle of my cycle and said if it happens, it happens. Alas, it didn't. So now I'm on cycle day 11 and waiting to ovulate. This month I'm charting and I will start using OPKs tomorrow. I am usually pretty regular, every 29 days. We are counting this as our first official TTC month because we're going to time it right and do lots of BDing.
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I'm excited to be joining you all! Oh, I made DH start taking vitamins last month too!
 

ChinaCat, you reminded me of a friend of mine. She and her DH tried for 1 1/2 years. She went on a strict diet prescribed by her doc (not even sugar!), went through in vitro, the whole nine yards. The month they decided to stop trying - you guessed it - they got pregnant without assistance! Wouldn't believe it if she hadn't told me herself.



Laila, welcome! I hope it's a short stay!

Sha yes, I'm 8 dpo. I said I had no hope for this month, but, I think I was lying. Hm. We'll see!
 
Date: 4/28/2009 2:31:50 PM
Author: Festy
Charger! I just wrote a long post with Mendoza recommendations and PS ate it! And now I have to go back to work! I promise I will rewrite later.
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Ooh, so mad right now.

Oh no! It''s another case of the vanishing PS post... It drives me crazy with that happens.

THANKS for your effort, Festy. I"ll keep an eye out for the new post (don''t forget to copy it before you hit submit!)
 
Félicitations, Anchor!
 
Charger - Right! "Copy!" What a thought!

K - We stayed two nights in Mendoza City and three nights Chacras de Coria, kind of a suburb, closer to the wineries. After eating *mind-blowing* food in BA, we found the restaurants in M.C. to be a little on the touristy side. I think that''s because the population is less well-to-do than in BA and therefore less likely to go out to eat. The restaurant we liked best in the city was Azafran.

We went on a winery tour arranged by the inn we stayed at in Chacras de Coria (Finca Adalgisa, a small inn and winery). We visited Mendel, Renacer, Belasco de Baquedano (where we had a very nice lunch) and Benegas - all in the Lujan de Cuyo region. We had a grand time, although we were not at all picky about where we went. I also enjoyed being with a small group and we even ended up having our last dinner of the trip with a couple we met on the tour. If you guys are interested in choosing which wineries you visit, I''m sure it will be possible to shop around to see which tours go where. The tour companies have little retail storefronts in Mendoza City and I''m sure there are many itineraries to choose from. Of course a private driver is also a good choice.

As for other restaurants, there were some great ones out in the ''burbs. A cab ride from Mendoza City would probably not run you too much. We loved 1884 in Godoy Cruz. (Had to take a cab from Chacras de Coria to Godoy Cruz - wasn''t bad at all). It was the priciest meal we ate the whole time we were in Argentina and I think for the two of us it came to about 70 dollars. (This was with two cocktails. We were completely wined-out, having done the wine tour that day!)

Let me know if I''m forgetting anything. I''m so excited for you! The best wine I''ve ever tasted in my entire life actually came from the Finca. They have such a small operation though, and I don''t know if they sell their wine in stores. You can buy it at the inn, however. http://www.fincaadalgisa.com.ar/index.htm
 
Anchor!!!

How exciting!!!
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Congratulations, girl!

(You''ll have to tell us how you told your hubby the big news!!!)
 
Laila,

Welcome aboard!!

Hope it's a fast journey through TTC for you!!!
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So, my friend at work had her baby last night! He was 6 lbs, 5 oz. My friend is doing well and the baby is, too. They'll be going home tomorrow! Went to see them after work today... can I just say how very, very, very much I adore babies??
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He has hair all over his head (awww!!!) and the most defined face I've seen from a newborn. Ah... baby yumminess!! I just sat there holding him for I don't know how long... totally in love with him. His tiny fingers and toes!! And he kept grabbing at his ear. So funny! He's adorable!! New mommy's doing well, too. Said it's more than she even dreamed it could be, to look over and see this little tiny bundle that you and your hubby created, cooing and stretching and just knowing that for the rest of your life, you'll be in love with this little person. Anyway, needless to say, I left the hospital all kinds of nuts for a baby (as if I wasn't already!!) and stopped at the store and got some "pre-conception" products.
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Even got some of those OPKs (the giant pack of 20... it was like 16 bucks... likely won't do that again!). Came home. Peed on yet another stick. Two lines, one lighter than the other, but just a little. Hmm. I'm keeping it for tomorrow, to compare. I don't think I'll do it more than a couple days, though. I get compulsive about stuff like that sometimes and don't want to get into thate mode with things to pee on every again!! I figure one cycle of doing *everything* possible won't be that bad, then I'll move back to less psycho mode.

Anyway... I just love this little bitty baby. Awww!! Brook just totally looked different. Mommy glow, totally!!!

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ETA: The directions for the OPKS did say that taking Clomid can make any/all testing invalid. So I guess that it's just a caution to keep in mind on my part. (Paul dang near freaked out when he saw the test on the counter in the bathroom---I was going to put the date on it, but then decided not to... did a total double take. I had to tell him really fast what it was before he got too excited. Kind of made my heart flutter with joy that he's so excited about it, and also made my heart sink a little that it wasn't our moment yet....)
 
Anchor congratulations!!!! Yet another jerkstore in our midst
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I''m so happy for you. Have fun with the shock
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It''ll sink in soon! Wishing you the best pregnancy!

February fingers are still crossed hard for you girl. I hate being in the dark too! Here''s hoping you get an answer sooon!!
 
Congrats, anchor!! What an exciting time for you
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Sunkist- AF showed up in full force this afternoon
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I'm ok about it because I'm just glad to *know* what is going on instead of being in limbo! I may use OPKs this month and maybe even try temping... How are you feeling?
Fisher- So can you not use OPKs while using Clomid? I haven't bought any OPKs yet so i'm not sure how to use them but I thought they had to be taken for X number of days in a row? Hmmm... something for me to go research now!

ETA for Fisher: http://www.peeonastick.com/opkfaq.html
 
Thank you so much everyone. It still feels unreal. I was getting home from work today and I felt like I'd dreamed all that had happened in the morning.

When DH came home from work, I grabbed the two tests (one in each hand) and asked him: "Left or right?" He said right (the digital) and I showed him. He looked at it, looked at me, and said: "What's that?"
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" I got him to read what was written, and his jaw dropped. "Seriously?" he asked... "Seriously," I said. "Well, I did a good job then."
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He's thrilled. He's been talking about babies for ages! We even started talking about baby names. Looks like the second bedroom in the new apartment we're moving into on Friday is officially going to be the baby's room.
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We decided some time ago that we are not finding out the sex and that we will wait until after the first trimester to tell our families. Hopefully, there won't be as much drama than during wedding planning!
 
Date: 4/29/2009 9:26:08 PM
Author: february2003bride
Sunkist- AF showed up in full force this afternoon
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I''m ok about it because I''m just glad to *know* what is going on instead of being in limbo! I may use OPKs this month and maybe even try temping... How are you feeling?
Fisher- So can you not use OPKs while using Clomid? I haven''t bought any OPKs yet so i''m not sure how to use them but I thought they had to be taken for X number of days in a row? Hmmm... something for me to go research now!

ETA for Fisher: http://www.peeonastick.com/opkfaq.html
Sorry Feb. That sucks.
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Date: 4/29/2009 9:28:06 PM
Author: anchor31
Thank you so much everyone. It still feels unreal. I was getting home from work today and I felt like I''d dreamed all that had happened in the morning.

When DH came home from work, I grabbed the two tests (one in each hand) and asked him: ''Left or right?'' He said right (the digital) and I showed him. He looked at it, looked at me, and said: ''What''s that?''
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'' I got him to read what was written, and his jaw dropped. ''Seriously?'' he asked... ''Seriously,'' I said. ''Well, I did a good job then.''
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He''s thrilled. He''s been talking about babies for ages! We even started talking about baby names. Looks like the second bedroom in the new apartment we''re moving into on Friday is officially going to be the baby''s room.
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We decided some time ago that we are not finding out the sex and that we will wait until after the first trimester to tell our families. Hopefully, there won''t be as much drama than during wedding planning!
LOL!! I always love reading men''s reactions to being told "they did a good job" lol

congratulations again Anchor!!!
 
Yaaaaaaaay Anchor!
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That is soooo awesome. And with what, 9 days of implantation spotting? Fabulous! I was so excited to see your post this morning. Wish you a happy, healthy pregnancy!
 
Sorry Feb I had high hopes for you
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. Your right though, better to know for sure so that you can move on to another cycle. I hope charting/OPK if you decide to use them will help you to confirm the right time to BD. Good luck!
 
Date: 4/29/2009 7:14:55 PM
Author: fisherofmengirly
Laila,

Welcome aboard!!

Hope it''s a fast journey through TTC for you!!!
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So, my friend at work had her baby last night! He was 6 lbs, 5 oz. My friend is doing well and the baby is, too. They''ll be going home tomorrow! Went to see them after work today... can I just say how very, very, very much I adore babies??
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He has hair all over his head (awww!!!) and the most defined face I''ve seen from a newborn. Ah... baby yumminess!! I just sat there holding him for I don''t know how long... totally in love with him. His tiny fingers and toes!! And he kept grabbing at his ear. So funny! He''s adorable!! New mommy''s doing well, too. Said it''s more than she even dreamed it could be, to look over and see this little tiny bundle that you and your hubby created, cooing and stretching and just knowing that for the rest of your life, you''ll be in love with this little person. Anyway, needless to say, I left the hospital all kinds of nuts for a baby (as if I wasn''t already!!) and stopped at the store and got some ''pre-conception'' products.
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Even got some of those OPKs (the giant pack of 20... it was like 16 bucks... likely won''t do that again!). Came home. Peed on yet another stick. Two lines, one lighter than the other, but just a little. Hmm. I''m keeping it for tomorrow, to compare. I don''t think I''ll do it more than a couple days, though. I get compulsive about stuff like that sometimes and don''t want to get into thate mode with things to pee on every again!! I figure one cycle of doing *everything* possible won''t be that bad, then I''ll move back to less psycho mode.

Anyway... I just love this little bitty baby. Awww!! Brook just totally looked different. Mommy glow, totally!!!

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ETA: The directions for the OPKS did say that taking Clomid can make any/all testing invalid. So I guess that it''s just a caution to keep in mind on my part. (Paul dang near freaked out when he saw the test on the counter in the bathroom---I was going to put the date on it, but then decided not to... did a total double take. I had to tell him really fast what it was before he got too excited. Kind of made my heart flutter with joy that he''s so excited about it, and also made my heart sink a little that it wasn''t our moment yet....)
Fisher, as far as I know, Clomid only causes problems with OPKs if you start testing with an OPK too soon after your last Clomid pill. You''re supposed to wait at least 3 days after taking the last pill to use opks, otherwise you might get a false positive. After that, the opks should work normally. I never had a problem with using opks on Clomid at all.

That baby sounds precious!
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I hope you get to have your own little one soon. How is your other friend, Jen, doing?

Feb, sorry about AF....
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Hi Laila! Hope your stay is short and sweet!
 
congrats Anchor!!! hoping you have a healthy 9 months!!!
 
Feb- Sorry!!

Fisher- I ditto what Sha said about clomid and opk''s. I wait three days after my last clomid pill to start the opk. I haven''t had any problem with false positives, they''ve been accurate every time.

10 DPO here, not much to report. I actually quit temping after I confirmed that I ovulated. So, we''ll see. After last cycle I don''t know when I''ll test. (my lp last month was 17 days) I don''t even have any tests so that makes it easier to resist!!
 
Feb, that sucks. Booo, AFF
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Feb,

I''m sorry, girl. I hope that next cycle brings a whole different result!!!

How old are your kiddos?
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Re: the OPKs, yes I likely bought them too late for this cycle. It was truly one of thos impulse buys that I really doubt I''ll end up using on a regular basis. I was just caught in the moment, I guess. Anyway, I know just one test doesn''t say anything, so I''m not taking what it said (or didn''t say) to mean much at all. I did have a big spike in temp today and it''s my hope that all following temps soar, too.
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Yes, I do believe that the Clomid works with OPKS, you just have to take them later in the cycle. Directions probably stated that just to cover their butts, if you know what I mean.

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Anchor.

That''s so funny about your husband!
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Congrats again, sweetie!!

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Thanks for praying for my friend/asking about her. She doesn''t know if her numbers have increased yet (will know that today), but has been told that Monday''s numbers were "good." She didn''t get an exact number (I would have), but she''s feeling much better knowing they were high. So today should bring more information on that front!!
 
Hi Ladies - I''m back after a fabulous 8 days in CA (4 days in LA and 4 days in SF) and even though I had to work for 2 of those days it was still an amazing trip! We had the BEST weather - sunny everyday and unseasonably warm! We did all the touristy stuff in both cities and had 2 day trips - one to Santa Barbara and one to Napa/Sonoma for some wine tasting!
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Just doing a quick drive by since I have so much to catch up on!

CONGRATULATIONS ANCHOR! So happy to see your stay here has been short and sweet!
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Feb - so sorry to hear about AFF - she''s a sneaky witch isn''t she?
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Tiffany - fingers crossed for you - sounds like your next!

I''m on CD 15 and got a peak reading on my monitor today (confirmed it with an OPK since I haven''t been using my monitor at all until yesterday). I''ve been the most relaxed this cycle than any other. No temping and just using the monitor today and possibly tomorrow, but we''ll see. We''ve been so tired from our trip that we haven''t BD''d since Sunday, but we will tonight and the next two nights. Not really putting to much stock into this round, but at least I had some time away from the TTC world for a while.
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Woooo Hoooo Anchor!

That is so wonderful lady, you are a real sweetheart, so very happy for you and your DH.
kisses!
 
Date: 4/29/2009 2:53:10 PM
Author: ChinaCat
Lulu- Hope you don''t mind, but I directed Ebree on the preggo thread to some nursery inspiration pics you had posted awhile back in the nursery thread. You have such stunning, great taste!

Thanks for sharing your friend''s story and I don''t mind at all about the nursery pictures
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fisher - I mostly want to gobble up newborns . . . glad you got to get a baby-fix.

blushing - your trip sounds perfect. good weather makes any trip better!

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as for me, I don''t really know where I am in this cycle as I didn''t use my monitor and gave up temping long ago. I''m at CD 14, I mostly tend to ovulate around CD 12. Unfortunately, due to my DH''s business trip we only got to BD on CD 8 and 9 which I believe is too early . . . so for now, I''ll just look forward to the weekend
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Date: 4/29/2009 5:06:08 PM
Author: Festy
Charger - Right! ''Copy!'' What a thought!


K - We stayed two nights in Mendoza City and three nights Chacras de Coria, kind of a suburb, closer to the wineries. After eating *mind-blowing* food in BA, we found the restaurants in M.C. to be a little on the touristy side. I think that''s because the population is less well-to-do than in BA and therefore less likely to go out to eat. The restaurant we liked best in the city was Azafran.


We went on a winery tour arranged by the inn we stayed at in Chacras de Coria (Finca Adalgisa, a small inn and winery). We visited Mendel, Renacer, Belasco de Baquedano (where we had a very nice lunch) and Benegas - all in the Lujan de Cuyo region. We had a grand time, although we were not at all picky about where we went. I also enjoyed being with a small group and we even ended up having our last dinner of the trip with a couple we met on the tour. If you guys are interested in choosing which wineries you visit, I''m sure it will be possible to shop around to see which tours go where. The tour companies have little retail storefronts in Mendoza City and I''m sure there are many itineraries to choose from. Of course a private driver is also a good choice.


As for other restaurants, there were some great ones out in the ''burbs. A cab ride from Mendoza City would probably not run you too much. We loved 1884 in Godoy Cruz. (Had to take a cab from Chacras de Coria to Godoy Cruz - wasn''t bad at all). It was the priciest meal we ate the whole time we were in Argentina and I think for the two of us it came to about 70 dollars. (This was with two cocktails. We were completely wined-out, having done the wine tour that day!)


Let me know if I''m forgetting anything. I''m so excited for you! The best wine I''ve ever tasted in my entire life actually came from the Finca. They have such a small operation though, and I don''t know if they sell their wine in stores. You can buy it at the inn, however. http://www.fincaadalgisa.com.ar/index.htm

This is GREAT! Many thanks!
we leave in 13 days- i''ve officially started the countdown...
 
Got word from my best friend today that the beta numbers didn''t come back good.
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They said the numbers were decreasing (but didn''t give her the actual numbers. I would have wanted them.). Said her baby, based on size, likely stopped living about 2 weeks ago. She''s planning to wait for a natural miscarriage, rather than a D&C if possible.

My heart just aches for her. I don''t even know how a person copes with something like this... I just can''t fathom it.

Out of sheer excitement, the night she told me she was pregnant we were already going to Babies R Us for a gift for a baby shower for work, and I picked up this cute sonogram frame that says, "So little.... So loved" on it and sent it to her the next day... in case she had an ultrasound at the first appt. She said that they''ve put the picture they have in the frame and she''s so glad that they did get an ultrasound, so they have something tangible to always remind them of the itty bitty life that they shared.

I don''t even know what to do... I know there''s nothing I can do to make it any better, nothing at all, but I feel like I need to do something. I don''t want to call... I know I''d be crying, too. I feel like I need to be strong for her, but I don''t know that I could do that. I''m at a loss, and that stinks. She''s my best friend! I need to be there for her, and I don''t know how to be. I don''t know that she''d want to talk right now, anyway. I don''t think I would.

I don''t know how long it takes to naturally pass a baby... I don''t know if sometimes it doesn''t happen on its own and you have to have a D&C. I am stuck in this world of hoping maybe the numbers were wrong, and that baby is fighting to survive. I know this is NOT what she needs to hear, because hearing something like that would *kill* me at a time like this... but it''s something I wonder, none the less, although I suppose scientifically it''s not possible.

I guess this is a horrible thing to post here, where we''re all looking forward to the day we''re not only pregnant, but also to having healthy, full-term pregnancies, but I just feel such a numbness now...
 
Fishie, I feel for your friend- what an awful thing to go through!

I''m finding myself in the exact same situation.

A gal that I''ve recently become close with became unexpectedly pregnant early last month. She happens to work in the field of reproductive health, and has ample resources available to her- she was able to hear the baby''s heartbeat VERY early. Unfortunately, things turned for the worse- she was recently placed in a high-risk category, as her beta numbers weren''t strong. She had an exam last Friday, and they decided to do a D&C on the spot. I didn''t hear about it until Monday, and she''s been a wreck this week.

I''m numb- totally don''t know what to do. Granted, she''s not my best friend, but I care about her.
 
Fisher~your poor friend! Thoughts and prayers outgoing!
 
Fisher- My loves are 12 (daughter), 5 (son) and 3 (son)
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I''m so sorry to hear about your friend.
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My SIL had a similar situation and she said months later that the friends who were truely there for her, really helped her heal.
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