The Official TTC Thread!

[dcgator]

CONGRATUALTIONS to Blushing Bride and Split_Shank!!!

How very exciting for both of you!

SS: Thanks for stopping by to let us know. I was just about to send out word to see when you are coming back. The suspense was killing me!
I am so glad that you brought the sticks with you on vaca

. Enjoy your time in the land of sun and have a couple virgin celebratory drinks for us!

Blushing: I didn''t get the chance to meet you before, but I would like to thank you so much for setting up such a great place for all us TTC ladies to chat. I am thrilled to hear that you are KU and no less with 2 LO''s. Congrats on the pregnancy and best wishes for healthy little peanuts in a few months

Well ladies, it looks like we had a couple last minute buzzer beaters to keep us in the March Madness game. But, I can''t say that''s too far off from the insanity in the real NCAA games...

Think we can get one or two more in before the end of the sure-to-be busy next month?

 

[Loves Vintage]

Congratulations, Split Shank!!!

Thanks for popping in from your vacation to share the good news!!!!

 

[brightlight]

Congrats SS, BB, and IK!

Quick update - I POAS and got a negative. I was ok with it. I know it can take a while to get pregnant. Then, yesterday, I had a breakdown and sobbed uncontrollably.

I feel much better now though. Anyway, still no AF. Now, I''m wondering what''s going on with that.

 

[brightlight]

 

[Bella_mezzo]

brightlight, hope that you get some answers soon!

So I seem to totally be a fade-in OPK person. This month too. I am on CD 13 and it *almost* looks positive, so I''m hoping to get a positive OPK tomorrow...if DH and I aren''t too tired we might try to BD tonight just in case...

 

[Krissie]

Bright Light: hugs! I got a BFN today too, after several vivid dreams about BFPs! It''s enough to mess with your morning, isn''t it?! I''m 12 DPO=ish and losing hope for this cycle.

Bella: fingers crossed for the OPK+! I never got a full + using OPKs - only with lovely Eva have I confirmed that I have a true surge. Fingers crossed that you catch it right!

 

[Dreamer_D]

OceKid Great news! Weren''t you planning on waiting to TTC until like May or something

 

[HOUMedGal]

Yaaaaaay Split_Shank!!

I KNEW you were preggo! hehehehehehe! Love it! SO happy for you. I hope you''re having a lovely time celebrating with your hubs in Jamaica...what a fun place to find out the good news!! Congrats momma!

 

[noelwr]

Bells - I think your OPK will win this month''s Celebrity Death Match. I''m on CD9 today so still too early. however, I''ll catch up with you next cycle, BUT... let''s hope there''s no next cycle for both of us!

brightlight - sorry ''bout the BFN. I know TTC is an emotional roller coaster, but as long as AF doesn''t show up, you''re still in the game. btw, that sounds really strange about the word "office" popping up in your posts. are you at the office when you post? maybe that''s your company''s way of saying more work less internet

 

[Lynnie]

SS!!!!!!!
Congrats!!!

Wow, such great news ! Best wishes to you and Icekid, for happy, wonderful, healthy pregnancies!!!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

ha-ha-ha Noelwr-We''ll todays looks just shy of positive too, so I think it will continue to be like last month and I''ll get a blazing positive around CD15/16...which would be great b/c we''ll be in CA and can relax. Last night was a bust as we were so tired and tonight I have a midterm during my 3 hour class, following my last full day at my office...needless to say it''s kind of a crazy week.

thank goodness I am a light packer, b/c I''ll havce about 15 minutes tonight to pack for this trip

So...I''ll keep you posted.

Hope Eva has some good news for you soon!!!

P.S. After today I think I''ll be lurking via my phone, but I''m not sure if I can post from it so if you don''t see me for a while after today know that I am soaking up some sun and cheering for all of the updates even if I can''t post. Plus, hopefully I''ll be in the 2ww...

 

[Lanie]

Congrats split shank!!!!! How exciting!

Wishing you a H&H 9 months ahead!!!

And congrats Icekid!!! I thought I had congratulated you, but I didn''t. H&H 9 months for you as well!

brightlight -- sorry about the BFN. But like someone else said, it ain''t over yet.

dcgator -- meant to write to you earlier. Don''t even apologize for complaining or whatever it was that you were apologizing for! Like RyanClaire said, we all have our specific issues. If I had a MC, I''d be frustrated and mad that girls at least have another cycle on the way. It''s always something in TTC land, so don''t feel bad! But thanks for the apology!!! It was really sweet. Anyway, when are you going to test? Or are you one of those AF waiters?

RyanClaire -- just thinking about you. Let me know how your first acup. appointment goes.

Noel -- has Eva told you anything yet? Usually I get a high by CD8, but I haven''t yet. But I''m hoping that''s bc I''m actually ovulating this cycle! Who knows...

LV -- just thinking about you as well! Can''t wait until you test!!!!!!

Today my friend just had her baby that she was trying for for 11 years. Miracles do happen.

 

[Loves Vintage]

Lanie - Wow, 11 years!!! Lots of congrats to them! I assume they tried fertility treatments over that period of time??

Thanks for thinking of me in my 2ww. I am feeling slightly unsettled about it, like this underlying impatience, but I am trying to be more zen about it. I had acupuncture yesterday and will again on Saturday. I have to take this HCG tomorrow night, and still have some in my system from the trigger shot. I've been "testing it out" with the internet cheapies that I got from Amazon. It's a bit of a downer, because even if I am producting HCG on my own due to implantation, I won't know about it because the BFP's could equally be due to the HCG shots. But, going back to my "whatever will be, will be," thinking, it doesn't REALLY matter when I find out that I am pregant (if I do become pregnant), it just matters that I am, err, if I am, you know what I mean!

So, to keep my mind off of things, I am planning a lot of yard work for the weekend, and I am volunteering with my greyhound rescue group. They kept me quite busy last weekend too, so that's a good way to keep my mind off of things. I think it's good to plan distractions. I don't think I am too bad about obsessing though, at least not compared to some women on another board I visit who post about waiting all.day.long. Do something else, and the wait will seem much less!!!

And, since I know we love pet photos here -- here's a pic of a loveable greyhound I took recently. Soooo, sweet!

Noel - Going off topic, I know, but I wonder if you see a lot of greyhounds in Holland? I know a lot of rescued Spanish Galgos are transported there.

 

[dcgator]

Hi ladies,

Only one more day until Friday, woohoo! This week has been busy yet again and has flown by, but I am sooo ready for the weekend already! For those of you ladies still on vaca (Bella and Split Shank), I hope you enjoy the rest of your time before returning to the non-beach world

Brightlight: I am so sorry to hear about your BFN and the resulting meltdown. What CD are you on again? And, I will also join the camp that if AF has not shown up yet, you are still in the race! (((HUGS))) and fingers crossed for you. As for the spotting, I am not sure what is was. FF puts my O day at 17, so that would make it spotting at 5/6DPO. Who knows...

Krissie: Sorry about your BFN too, but hang in there. If you recall, SS had a BFN HPT at first too. She also had two dreams, one about a BFN and then one about a BFP and low and behold, her 2nd POAS attempt was a BFP. Fingers crossed for you too!

Bella: I am totally a fade-on OPK girl too. I will gradually work my way into positive OPK''s from super light to darker test line. I hope you get your positive OPK tomorrow too. Also, if you get a positive manana, I would still test for the next day or two to see how long it lasts/confirm the O. I have totally had positive, negative, positive tests before. Either way, have a great trip to CA and enjoy the relaxing time with DH

Lanie: Good luck on O''ing this cycle. I really hope that it happens for you

. As for your friend, I think she deserves a Gold medal! 11 years of trying and now a baby. Talk about persistance paying off

. As for me, unless my DH has superman sperm like Split_Shank''s DH and can last 4-5 days, I don''t think we are in it this month, so not really expecting anything. The delayed O has kinda thrown me off too, so I am not sure when I will get AF. I am just going to kinda roll with it and if I don''t get AF in a few days (I am 8DPO), then I will break out the HPT''s. Either way, we were planning on officially trying next month, so I will either get an early surprise or be ready to jump on the April BD''ing bandwagon

. I hope that you will get to some BD''ing yourself as well in the coming days...fingers crossed

LV: We are all awaiting your good news as well. Keeping busy is definitely a great idea to make the time fly by. Have fun with the puppies this weekend!

 

[dcgator]

Date: 3/25/2010 10:56:26 AM
Author: Loves Vintage


And, since I know we love pet photos here -- here''s a pic of a loveable greyhound I took recently. Soooo, sweet!

Noel - Going off topic, I know, but I wonder if you see a lot of greyhounds in Holland? I know a lot of rescued Spanish Galgos are transported there.

Btw: What a cutie! Can you say sunbath?

 

[brightlight]

I can''t really say that my sobfest was a result of my BFN. I wanted a BFP, but I can''t say that I was overwhelmingly sad about the BFN. I knew when we started TTC that it would probably take at least several months to get pregnant. I just randomly felt like crying. I just attributed it to my body needing a release. I''m not sure whether to be happy or concerned that AF hasn''t come yet. I believe it''s CD34 today.

 

[blushingbride]

Thanks everyone for the well wishes!

Needless to say, we are very excited!!!

I am hoping things go smoothly frrom here on out, but I''m definitely not past the "nervous wreck stage" of the first trimester.

Anyway, just wanted you all to know that I am rooting for every single one of you and that I hope to see you on the preggo thread very soon!!!

TTC is definitely an emotional roller coaster (you''ll most certainly have your good days and bad days), but don''t ever lose hope - that''s MOST important!

Congratulations Split Shank and Ice Kid!!!!!

Wishing you both a happy and healthy nine months!!

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 3/24/2010 12:34:21 PM
Author: Lanie
Hey Blushingbride! Congrats!!!!

I hope I didn''t steal your thunder...I saw that you had posted your news in the preggo thread, and then came back here and told everyone you had posted over there. Didn''t know if you would ever come back to lurk in TTC land or not.

Either way...congrats! Your story gives me hope since I''ve been struggling!!!! I wish you and the twins and happy and healthy 8...7.5??? months ahead!

Thank you so much Lanie!

Don''t worry - no thunder was stollen.

Ice Kid actually suggested I come over and tell everyone here, which I was actually planning on doing anyway, but got so busy that day!

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 3/24/2010 1:39:50 PM
Author: Ryan Claire
BlushingB - CONGRATULATIONS! In reading through the TTC pages preparing four our own baby-making adventures it was impossible not to cheer for you... your journey was one for the ages and I am thrilled to see you have twins on the way. Take good care of yourself!

Split Shank - Congrats to you too! Being on vacation is such a great way to celebrate your second line It will be a great memory. Sticky dust.

Awe, thanks Ryan Claire! Yeah, never thought I''d be on this thread for as long as I had been, but man, it was FUN!!!!!! I met some truly fabulous women here (most of which have moved on to the preggo, newborn and toddler threads), but this place definitely brought me some much needed piece of mind and many, many laughs!

 

[blushingbride]

Date: 3/24/2010 4:03:17 PM
Author: dcgator
CONGRATUALTIONS to Blushing Bride and Split_Shank!!!

How very exciting for both of you!

SS: Thanks for stopping by to let us know. I was just about to send out word to see when you are coming back. The suspense was killing me!
I am so glad that you brought the sticks with you on vaca

. Enjoy your time in the land of sun and have a couple virgin celebratory drinks for us!

Blushing: I didn''t get the chance to meet you before, but I would like to thank you so much for setting up such a great place for all us TTC ladies to chat. I am thrilled to hear that you are KU and no less with 2 LO''s. Congrats on the pregnancy and best wishes for healthy little peanuts in a few months

Well ladies, it looks like we had a couple last minute buzzer beaters to keep us in the March Madness game. But, I can''t say that''s too far off from the insanity in the real NCAA games...

Think we can get one or two more in before the end of the sure-to-be busy next month?

You are very sweet dcgator!!! You are very welcome!!!

 

[lili]

Wow, so many good news this week.
Glad to see some BFPs from the march madness.

Congrats SplitShank
What a wonderful way to find.
Lots of sticky dust to you.

Congrats BlushingBride again on your double blessings.
Another dose of sticky dust to your bebes.

 

[CatLuver]

Hello ladies!

Congrats to icekid, ss and blushing! I hope all of us see you on the other side soon.

brightlight - sorry about your negative. I understand what you mean about the crying, sometimes I feel like I just need to too!

dcgator - your question awhile back - yes, I''ve had that - usually if activities were on the vigorous side. but maybe it was implantation spotting for you!

Ryan Claire - sorry about the O difficulties. Crossing my fingers for you.

As for me, I''m on CD8, and I plan to start OPKing tomorrow. Gearing up for action time! I''m hoping to catch at least O-2, O-1, and O, but DH isn''t sure he can do it so many times in a row...he wants to go for every other day, but I''m afraid we would somehow miss the right time since it''s not 100% that I''ll even know what those dates are until afterward. I''m going to try to make the every day happen though! I guess just starting from the first positive OPK (or only, if there is only one) until my temp goes up? I''m totally new at this.

 

[Ryan Claire]

Hey ladies - so I am back with an acupuncture update... The one on Monday was fine, the place was very eastern in feel (music, decorations, lighting) and the woman was nice but a little intense. She disparaged western medicine a lot, which I found a little off putting, but she seemed to know her stuff and willing to listen to my concerns. She was pricier than the other another practitioner too, and she wanted to see me twice a week for the first 3 weeks... plus the cost of herbs. She did give me the consultation for free, which was generous but I don''t know what it was - maybe just an overall gut feeling but I didn''t think this was the place for me.

Yesterday, I went to another practitioner and enjoyed the experience a lot. It was at a doctor''s office (he shares his space with a podiatrist - random right?), but I really like that it felt clean and sterile and professional. He is a man, which might have been uncomfortable, but he was kind and seemed to take his craft seriously. He also works primarily with women''s issues so I felt like that was important. He asked some questions about my diet, stress levels, gynecological history, and reasons for seeking treatment. Then I showed him my labs, BBT charts, and vitamins. He was happy with my information gathering and he suggested one or two more vitamins for regulating hormones (Said the red raspberry leaf tea was good and to add 2000mgs of fish oil a day for the Omega-3s). We then talked about whether I wanted to do acupuncture in conjunction with another round of Provera/Clomid or do acupuncture and herbs. I am still struggling with that one as I want to get pregnant soon... but if my body is messed up because of the fake hormones in the BC I took for 9 years it does not seem particularly helpful to throw more fake hormones or chemicals at at the problem. I think I am ready to put Clomid on the self for a few months and just give the natural acupuncture and Traditional Chinese Medicine herbs a try. I feel like it would be healthy to allow my body to regulate and give me signs that it is ready to ovulate/carry a child... rather than force it there with medicine... of course if I still don''t ovulate or menstrate on my own in 3 months... I will probably be back to trying a more medical approach. He did not make it seem like my amenorrhea was too particular considering my 9 years on BC and assured me that TCM can help.

But I digress... After the information intake was over. He checked my tongue and my pulse, which are two major diagnostic tools for acupuncture... he did not comment much on that part so maybe I''ll ask at my next session if he noticed anything remarkable. Then there was the actual acupuncture. I was wearing my work clothes and he just asked me to remove my shoes. Then I laid back and he placed about 15 needles in different places - feet, side of the knee, hand, ears, ovaries/abdomen, kidney, etc. Many of them through my clothes, which I was surprised to see. Also, I thought there would be more needled but evidently they don''t need many needles, just one in each place they want to target. (He keep the talk of Meridians and Qi at a minimum, which was fine with me). None of the needles hurt at all going in. The only one was caused any mild discomfort was the one on my hand (between the thumb and pointer finger). Once all the needles were in place, he covered me with a thin metal sheet/blanket (to keep me warm?) and turned on bird chirping music and left me for about 20 minutes. It was very relaxing (although weird at first) and I eventually drifted a little. I felt some warmth or "movement" around the needles in my hand and abdomen, but it''s also hard to tell what is real and what might be in your head. I realize acupuncture can have a real placebo affect (oxymoron if I ever heard on) but I am happy with that too if it leads to regular cycles. Then he came in, took out the needles and that was that. I have another appointment for next Wed. Truthfully I wish it was sooner... but I need to be patient - especially at 90 dollars a pop. He also prescribed granules that you drink in tea 2x a day. I''ll get those next week. Overall, it was a very cool, self-care experience and I am glad that LV recommended it so strongly cause I think that was the push I needed. I hope that I get results in the next month or two... Nothing was different after the acupuncture (no change in CM or anything) but I wouldn''t expect that. I am still at High on CD25 on the CBEFM... my 2 months of 20 sticks - grrr! I will keep you guys updated.


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Brightlight - I don''t get the word office... weird! Sorry about the BFN... stings a little but I am glad you able to release your emotions and move forward.

Bella - enjoy your trip to Cali! Hope you get some good Baby-dancing in and start the 2ww in vaca mode.

Lanie - thanks for checking in! Your friend must be so happy. Did they conceive naturally.

LV - Thanks again for advocating for acupuncture Thinking of you in your 2ww. I think your whatever will be, will be attitude will help you get through this uncertain time... and less stress is better for everything.

DCgator - let''s hope your man has super swimmers too! If not, it will clearly be on for April.

 

[Lanie]

RyanClaire -- thanks so much for the description! It didn''t sound like it hurt you...no one ever says it does, so maybe I''ll give it a whirl? Did he have any idea why you aren''t O''ing? How long have you been off BC?

Oh, and yes, my friend that delivered today after 11 years was all natural. They did 3 rounds of IVF years ago, and gave up on that. She was trying to convince her husband to adopt, but he didn''t want to. She was going in for another meeting with the agency when she found out she was preggers. She said she has never been more thankful in her life. Makes me tear up just typing it out!!!!

 

[split_shank]

Thanks everybody!! I am totally amazed right now and it sure hasn''t sank in yet! To be honest, I have no idea how many dpo I was/am (shame on me) but we weren''t completely planning on tracking until what would have been my next cycle. I thought I may have o''d on CD 11 or 12, but I couldn''t get a pink line to show up clearly until CD 33. I had a spot on CD31, which I was sure was the beginning finally of AF. I checked every time we got off a plane and sure enough, nothing! I did POAS on CD32 and I seriously was wondering if I was imagining a shadow, it was barely even pink. So I waited another day and tried again the next morning and got a good enough one!

We were walking the beach at sunset that evening and we stopped to write our names in the sand and take a picture, like we did when we were there for our honeymoon last year. I wrote our names P+J and Jamaica 2010 and took some pictures, then I said "I need to add one more thing" and wrote "+ Baby ". DH was shocked. He cried, I cried, we were sobbing messes. He couldn''t stop smiling the whole night. It was a great vacation and I will never forget it no matter what happens in the future. I still feel pretty good, just tired alot. I called to make my first prenatal appointment today and couldn''t believe that they typically don''t see you for the first time until about 12 weeks!! I thought it was closer to 8 or 10! Oh well.. just a longer wait I guess.

Congrats to Ice Kid and Blushing Bride!!!! What great news for both of you!!!!!!!!!

IK, it will be interesting to see what your due date ends up being! I think mine is looking like Nov. 22, but I could easily have counted wrong!

Congratulations again to both of you!

 

[noelwr]

Lanie - Eva is giving me LOWS. last cycle I had a high at CD13, followed by a peak at CD14, which by default is followed by a 2nd peak and high, even though the last one was clearly LOW again. I also tried OPKs and didn''t have a fade in pattern. the LH line didn''t even show up the day before the positive (not even a faint line), and the next day it was super dark. so I expect the same this cycle.

LV - can I ask something about IUI? how soon before they expect you to O do they do it? I don''t see many greyhounds in Holland, no, but there are a lot of dogs here as it is a very animal-friendly country.

CatLuver - I am starting to wonder if it even makes sense to BD 3 days in a row. is 24 hrs enough time for a man to "regenerate" enough fertile sperm? my man is no spring chicken, anymore. I think we''re going to go with every other day. but good luck to you guys if you do go for a BD-marathon.

Bells - so jealous you are going to Cali. where?

we got our new car today. we''ve named her Sloane. that''s what DH would like to call our daughter if we ever had one, but I don''t like it. I thought it was a better suitable name for a car.

 

[icekid]

missjaxon- thanks!

HMG- Aww! I will feel the exact same way when you get your next BFP... sometimes it shocks me how connected I feel with you ladies

I read your comment last night during a looooong and painful call and it totally lifted my spirits (and obviously, as always, call was survived). Hubby is quite proud of his supersperm. If the Shettles gender selection was any basis in truth, maybe this will be a little girl! And definitely, I''ll always fight on your team

dc- you are so sweet, thanks again! I''ll be anxiously awaiting your BFP, as well. I don''t want to change threads and leave you all

so I will definitely be sticking around here for a while.

Kunzite- Thanks! Looks like I started a March trend... hope it continues!

split_shank-

woohoo girl! It sounds like your BFP was a few days before mine. And if I am correct about O day, I''ll be due Dec 4. So I''d guess you might be around Nov 30?? 22nd sounds a bit early. And what a sweeeeet way to tell your hubby. How long were you able to hold off on telling him? I lasted approx 30 minutes while I tried to pee again to take another test.

brightlight- So sorry about your BFN! It was always shocking to me how wrapped up my emotions got in this process.

Bella- Go to it girl! You''d be due what, a couple weeks after me? perfect!

When is Bliss coming home?? I miss her!

dreamer- !! I''ll have you know that we planned to start in March and my kid has perfect timing

Lanie- Thanks

How wonderful about your friend after 11 years. That really is an amazing story.

LV- No pressure

, but I am so anxious to find out how this IUI cycle went. I just have this gut feeling.... so hopeful for you.

blushing- A healthy and wonderful 9 months (or 8 with your twins) to you too. I''ll definitely be on the preggo thread more when I feel more comfortable that this kid is going to stick.

noel- I like your style- using your DH''s favorite names for the car. Sounds about right to me. I think I''ll be able to get my hubby to agree to whatever names I want, with a little effort

 

[Krissie]

SplitShank: Oh my gosh, I got chills reading how you announced to your hubby. Really just beautiful - I am so happy for you!

 

[split_shank]

Date: 3/25/2010 5:52:24 PM
Author: icekid
missjaxon- thanks!

HMG- Aww! I will feel the exact same way when you get your next BFP... sometimes it shocks me how connected I feel with you ladies

I read your comment last night during a looooong and painful call and it totally lifted my spirits (and obviously, as always, call was survived). Hubby is quite proud of his supersperm. If the Shettles gender selection was any basis in truth, maybe this will be a little girl! And definitely, I'll always fight on your team

dc- you are so sweet, thanks again! I'll be anxiously awaiting your BFP, as well. I don't want to change threads and leave you all

so I will definitely be sticking around here for a while.

Kunzite- Thanks! Looks like I started a March trend... hope it continues!

split_shank-

woohoo girl! It sounds like your BFP was a few days before mine. And if I am correct about O day, I'll be due Dec 4. So I'd guess you might be around Nov 30?? 22nd sounds a bit early. And what a sweeeeet way to tell your hubby. How long were you able to hold off on telling him? I lasted approx 30 minutes while I tried to pee again to take another test.

brightlight- So sorry about your BFN! It was always shocking to me how wrapped up my emotions got in this process.

Bella- Go to it girl! You'd be due what, a couple weeks after me? perfect!

When is Bliss coming home?? I miss her!

dreamer- !! I'll have you know that we planned to start in March and my kid has perfect timing

Lanie- Thanks

How wonderful about your friend after 11 years. That really is an amazing story.

LV- No pressure

, but I am so anxious to find out how this IUI cycle went. I just have this gut feeling.... so hopeful for you.

blushing- A healthy and wonderful 9 months (or 8 with your twins) to you too. I'll definitely be on the preggo thread more when I feel more comfortable that this kid is going to stick.

noel- I like your style- using your DH's favorite names for the car. Sounds about right to me. I think I'll be able to get my hubby to agree to whatever names I want, with a little effort

Well the faint shadow day, I didn't say anything because I didnt' want to get his (and mine) hopes up. When I got the BFP the next morning, I knew I had to TRY to wait til our sunset walk. We went with a big group of people so we were somewhat distracted for most of the day, however he was kinda miffed that I dragged him away from the pool bar earlier than the rest. haha! He got over it pretty quick because he wanted to get some good sunset pictures too. So I guess you could say I made it the WHOLE DAY! It was extremely hot down there so I got away with drinking water at the beach area in my cup but after about 3 more days people started asking, what, no drink for you? I didn't get any 'what, are you pregnant or something' comments, luckily the heat saved me on that one

I was going by my CD1 day because I don't know when I O'd. I kinda hope you're right because for some reason I want a Dec baby . I'll take whatever I get though!!!!!

 

[icekid]

Date: 3/25/2010 7:30:25 PM
Author: split_shank

I was going by my CD1 day because I don''t know when I O''d. I kinda hope you''re right because for some reason I want a Dec baby . I''ll take whatever I get though!!!!!

Early December sounds good to me, too

We both have vacation babies coming, which is kind of fun, too! You had your BFP on vacay, and our baby was "Made in Spain"