The Official TTC Thread!

[mayerling]

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Another question from the TTC newbie: is it possible to have a temp shift without ovulation? I've been temping properly for the past few days, i.e. before getting out of bed, and today I got a 36.7C. I've never gotten one that high, even when I was taking them after getting out of bed. Is this wishful thinking or could I have started the TWW?

Prana, how about you? Are we still in sync (assuming I O'ed)?

amc80, here's hoping for twins! On that note, I too had what I think were ovulation cramps a couple of days before CD14, which started on the left, proceeded to both sides, and ended up on the right yesterday.

Ltlfirecracker, thanks for checking for me. I was actually doing the test straight after peeing, and after reading the directions again I thought I saw something about letting the urine reach room temperature before dipping the strip in it.

How's everyone else doing?

 

[amc80]

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Another question from the TTC newbie: is it possible to have a temp shift without ovulation? I've been temping properly for the past few days, i.e. before getting out of bed, and today I got a 36.7C. I've never gotten one that high, even when I was taking them after getting out of bed. Is this wishful thinking or could I have started the TWW?

Can you share your chart? A couple random high temps doesn't really mean anything, but if you have an overall temp shift (3+ days) then it would generally indicate ovulation...unless you had a fever or the weather changed drastically or something.

I'm having the opposite problem. With all the O pains and the strong positive OPK(s), I expected a big temp shift this morning. Actually, I just looked at my charts. The past two months I've had BIG temp shifts- an entire degree. But the two months before that they've been smaller, around .4 degrees. My shift this morning was .38 so I guess that's right around normal. I guess I'd gotten used to the drastic shifts I'd been getting. Oh and my OPK this morning was still really positive. Not quite as positive as yesterday's, but still very dark. The nausea lasted all day but I'm very happy to report it's gone today.

So, to all of you experienced TTCers- what do I do now? Anything to keep my eyes out for? The obvious ones are an implantation dip, spotting, or triphasic chart, but I know those can all happen without pregnancy, and pregnancy can happen without them. For those of you who have been pregnant, what were your earliest symptoms and how early did you feel them?

 

[Octavia]

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Another question from the TTC newbie: is it possible to have a temp shift without ovulation? I've been temping properly for the past few days, i.e. before getting out of bed, and today I got a 36.7C. I've never gotten one that high, even when I was taking them after getting out of bed. Is this wishful thinking or could I have started the TWW?

Here's the thing about charting -- not everyone follows the same patterns, and it's not a sure thing that it will give you the info you want. There are some people who never experience temp shifts even when they ovulate, and some people whose temps are all over the place so they can never get a clear pattern. And it really takes several months to establish what your particular pattern is (assuming you have one). So, while it can be a very helpful tool, it's not guaranteed to "work". For that reason, paying attention to more of your fertility signs than just temperatures is a good idea. Back a page or two, someone said CM isn't very reliable. I don't entirely agree. If you're not sure of your CM patterns, particularly in the early months after coming off HBC, then yeah, it's not actually the best sign. However, once you figure out the pattern, it can be VERY accurate. Even with the strange cycles I've been having these past few months, I can basically pinpoint my O date a couple days before it happens by paying attention to CM. The temp shift just confirms it, and it hasn't fooled me yet (although that can certainly happen). I *think* Dreamer once said she mainly relied on CM over temping. It's so person-specific, though, no one method can fit every situation. If this is your first cycle temping/charting, over-analyzing it isn't going to do much because you haven't had time to learn your patterns yet, know what I mean?

 

[amc80]

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Another question from the TTC newbie: is it possible to have a temp shift without ovulation? I've been temping properly for the past few days, i.e. before getting out of bed, and today I got a 36.7C. I've never gotten one that high, even when I was taking them after getting out of bed. Is this wishful thinking or could I have started the TWW?

Here's the thing about charting -- not everyone follows the same patterns, and it's not a sure thing that it will give you the info you want. There are some people who never experience temp shifts even when they ovulate, and some people whose temps are all over the place so they can never get a clear pattern. And it really takes several months to establish what your particular pattern is (assuming you have one). So, while it can be a very helpful tool, it's not guaranteed to "work". For that reason, paying attention to more of your fertility signs than just temperatures is a good idea. Back a page or two, someone said CM isn't very reliable. I don't entirely agree. If you're not sure of your CM patterns, particularly in the early months after coming off HBC, then yeah, it's not actually the best sign. However, once you figure out the pattern, it can be VERY accurate. Even with the strange cycles I've been having these past few months, I can basically pinpoint my O date a couple days before it happens by paying attention to CM. The temp shift just confirms it, and it hasn't fooled me yet (although that can certainly happen). I *think* Dreamer once said she mainly relied on CM over temping. It's so person-specific, though, no one method can fit every situation. If this is your first cycle temping/charting, over-analyzing it isn't going to do much because you haven't had time to learn your patterns yet, know what I mean?

I'm glad you brought up the CM thing because I have a question about it. I've noticed that I get EWCM maybe 5-7 days before ovulation, and it goes away 1-2 days before ovulation. A friend mentioned that the Billings method uses EWCM as the primary indicator of ovulation, with ovulation being the last day of EWCM. Is it weird that mine goes away so long before ovulation?

 

[S&I]

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So, to all of you experienced TTCers- what do I do now? Anything to keep my eyes out for? The obvious ones are an implantation dip, spotting, or triphasic chart, but I know those can all happen without pregnancy, and pregnancy can happen without them. For those of you who have been pregnant, what were your earliest symptoms and how early did you feel them?

I'd suggest just keep charting your temps for the next 2 weeks. How long are your LPs? If your temps stay high past that, there's a good chance you're PG! I had lower abdominal pains almost exclusively on my right side pretty much during the entire 2WW, had a weird bit of nausea at 5DPO, was gassy from 6-8DPO, and got my BFP at 11DPO. My LP during the cycle before that one was 10 days. I did not have any implantation spotting, but I was super tired the weekend before I got my BFP (on a Tuesday). Good luck!

 

[ChinaCat]

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AMC- I have zero symptoms until about 6 weeks every time. The only telltale thing for me was lots of creamy CM the week before I was due, which I know a few others have had. I wasn't charting so no idea about temps, etc.

 

[Prana]

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Prana, a girl's gotta have one vice & I think brownies are a pretty good way to go. Have you tried the ghirardelli mix from Costco? Divine!
I might try your olive oil trick. I guess you use less refined oil (not evoo-what I like to call slutty olive oil).
Any news on O for you? Good luck!

Hi Bright!! Mmmm brownies.....I wish there was a drooling smiley. And YES to the ghirardelli mix! Is the one they sell at Costco different from the one they sell at regular grocery stores? Because those are gooooood.

Yes, less refined, darker the better. (haha slutty olive oil )

As for O news, I should be ovulating tomorrow!! My CM is watery now, mixed in with some EW, and I have MORE this month than in the past couple of months, so there's a good thing! I had a slight bump in temp this morning to 97.52 from the 97-97.2 range, but I'm thinking maybe its just a slow rise, and it's not really above my coverline as I started around that temp when my last AF ended. We will see what happens tomorrow!! DH and I have been covering our bases, but instead of every day like we did last time, we are doing every other day to see if maybe less sperm does the trick. Maybe everyday was causing too much competition amongst the sperm. Maybe they all fought each other to the death before my egg arrived. Who knows.

I did go to my OBGYN yesterday. I wanted to ask her about my spotting issue (I usually start to spot 2-5 days before AF, about 9-10dpo). Also, sometimes the first day of my period is very heavy, dark dark red, and sometimes has clots. I never really worried about it too much before these last couple of months TTC. She set me up for an ultrasound in November just to make sure there's no cysts or fibroids or anything. Then she said if that comes back normal, we could go ahead and do bloodwork to test my hormones, and test DH sperm count. I got really mad at the health aid (I don't think she was a nurse, based off of her general demeanor). She was asking me why I was there and what my concerns were. When I told her she was like "I don't think you have anything to worry about, spotting before your period and clots are normal". The way she said it was very matter of fact, and with a sense of trying to act like she knew everything. I myself am a nurse, so I'm somewhat able to determine what is normal and what could be cause for concern. I told her that clots during your period are not 'normal', to which she replied 'yes they are, some people just have that sort of thing'. I then informed her (very matter of factly, if I might add, because I felt like she was sizing me up and trying to flex her medical tech muscles) that spotting before your period and clots are indicative of low progesterone and a luteal phase defect, and that I thought that I should come and have it checked out. Well she shut up after I said that. Luckily my Dr. didn't think my concerns were abnormal at all.

So we shall see! I'm trying to just let it be. I'm focusing on making my body stronger with a more focused yoga practice, drinking lots of hot water with lemon, and not obsessing over my temps and CM, even though I'm aware of what they are.

Today, I bought 2 bags of sunflower kernels, as I have read that they aid with implantation. That and pineapple core, but I'm a bit reluctant to try the pineapple, as it can also cause uterine contractions, and I don't want to evict an egg by accident.

Edited for spelling and to add that I meant no offense to med tech's- the good ones are worth their weight in gold and the medical profession could not function without them! I just didn't like her bedside manner.

 

[Octavia]

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I'm glad you brought up the CM thing because I have a question about it. I've noticed that I get EWCM maybe 5-7 days before ovulation, and it goes away 1-2 days before ovulation. A friend mentioned that the Billings method uses EWCM as the primary indicator of ovulation, with ovulation being the last day of EWCM. Is it weird that mine goes away so long before ovulation?

Amc, that does seem a little odd to me, but I'm not a real expert. I forget how long you've been off BC, but I didn't see a clear CM pattern for at least 4-5 cycles. Prior to that, I saw some at random times but it didn't really align with my temps. Now, I have about 3 days of egg white/watery which dries up the day after my temp spike. I read (don't remember whether it was on FF or in TCOYF) that it's possible to "miss" watery if you're not paying careful attention, but otherwise, I dunno...

 

[amc80]

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So, to all of you experienced TTCers- what do I do now? Anything to keep my eyes out for? The obvious ones are an implantation dip, spotting, or triphasic chart, but I know those can all happen without pregnancy, and pregnancy can happen without them. For those of you who have been pregnant, what were your earliest symptoms and how early did you feel them?

I'd suggest just keep charting your temps for the next 2 weeks. How long are your LPs? If your temps stay high past that, there's a good chance you're PG! I had lower abdominal pains almost exclusively on my right side pretty much during the entire 2WW, had a weird bit of nausea at 5DPO, was gassy from 6-8DPO, and got my BFP at 11DPO. My LP during the cycle before that one was 10 days. I did not have any implantation spotting, but I was super tired the weekend before I got my BFP (on a Tuesday). Good luck!

My LP is generally 14 days, although it was randomly 12 or 13 days last month. I will definitely keep temping. My DF keeps asking me if I feel anything, ha. Um, even if it did work the little guy is still floating around in there.

Amc, that does seem a little odd to me, but I'm not a real expert. I forget how long you've been off BC, but I didn't see a clear CM pattern for at least 4-5 cycles. Prior to that, I saw some at random times but it didn't really align with my temps. Now, I have about 3 days of egg white/watery which dries up the day after my temp spike. I read (don't remember whether it was on FF or in TCOYF) that it's possible to "miss" watery if you're not paying careful attention, but otherwise, I dunno...

I've been off it for for well over a year, and I wasn't really on it for all that long.

 

[Prana]

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Afm, 6dpo & not feeling anything.  I've been really trying not to think about the possibilities this month as I don't want to be disappointed again. 
Af is expected on Halloween. I guess I'll get a trick or a treat. 

Speaking of Halloween, does anyone have plans? Dh & I usually dress up & do something fun but we haven't made any plans yet. 

Sorry for two posts, but I didn't want to make one ginormous post.

6 DPO! you are in the worst part of the TWW!! I'm gonna say that not feeling anything is a wonderful sign, because in these past few months, I have felt pinching, twinges, cramping, gas, fatigue, bleeding gums and everything every pregnant person feels during the TWW and I've been coming up empty handed. So maybe your lack of symptoms is a good thing! I would be so excited for you if you got a 'treat' this Halloween!

lovesvintage My DH and I are using preseed. We tried it a couple of months ago (obviously we were unsuccessful), skipped a month, and we did use it last night TMI ALERT: My DH tends to use saliva if it gets a little dry down there, and saliva kills sperm! (so sorry )So we got the preseed to use if we needed it. I have read about all the success stories of couples who used it. It's one of the only sperm friendly lubes on the market, from what I understand. I haven't used the cups yet, but I prop my hips up for a good amt of time after gettin' down.

amc yay for the positive OPK! And yeah, you're totally gonna have twins. Probably triplets bc of the super low temps.

I saw the Great Sperm Race too!!! I certainly learned quite a bit!

Mayerling It sounds like you might have ovulated! We are still, as of now, close to the same schedule, I'm due to ovulate tomorrow, CD 16- and so far everything is spot on for me! I'm actually thinking I might be O'ing today, as my temps rose this AM, but not above coverline. But my cervical position and my CM are doing what they are supposed to be doing. I forgot my OPK's today, so I'll test tonight when I get out of work. I'm not too worried about the OPK's.

Good luck to all of you, ladies!

 

[Missy0483]

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AMC - I got my BFP at 12dpo. My only "early" symptoms were lots of bloating/gassyness basically the whole week before my BFP (bad enough that I couldn't suck in my stomach because it hurt and I had to unbutton my pants! ) and then it went away the day after I got my BFP. I broke out on my face 2 days before my BFP and it's been clearing up and popping up again here and there since then. I didn't get tender/sore boobs at all until about 6 weeks in. So really nothing that pushed me to think I was actually pregnant besides my temp staying up, especially since we only BD'd once during the fertile window. Wishing you good luck in the upcoming days!!

 

[missrachelk]

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TTC is tough!

Only a little more than a week 'officially' in the game, and I'm stressed and trying not to agonize over every twinge. I'm tired, very tired, and am expecting AF sometime this week or next, so my TTC brain turned the excessive tiredness plus a stomachache yesterday and zits into - must be preggo! Test! Test! Is acne even a recognized pregnanct symptom? So I slept fitfully, and had weird dreams about not being able to read the test, and of course got a BFN (actually two, one cheapie and one FR - newbie mistake there! I don't plan to pull out the spendy tests until the TWW has at least passed or to verify the cheapies) I'm not sure how many DPO I am, but it's only been 9 days since we first BD so probably far too early to get a positive.

How soon does a BFP generally come? I know everyone's different, but on the conservative end? 15 DPO or so?

Now that it's time I'm just super excited and really can't wait to see that positive test. I know stress does not help the situation and I need to chill out, wait for AF and then do what I can to read the next cycle so that we can hit that fertile window. I can't help but worry about the last cycle being so long (and I assume annovulatory, just because it took SOO long and I felt no PMS, no symptoms whatsoever). Nothing to do about that exept move on!

I'm thinking about starting temping next cycle jsut to have some data other than subjective feelings and 'symptoms'

I hope everyone is having a good week!

 

[S&I]

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TTC is tough!

Only a little more than a week 'officially' in the game, and I'm stressed and trying not to agonize over every twinge. I'm tired, very tired, and am expecting AF sometime this week or next, so my TTC brain turned the excessive tiredness plus a stomachache yesterday and zits into - must be preggo! Test! Test! Is acne even a recognized pregnanct symptom? So I slept fitfully, and had weird dreams about not being able to read the test, and of course got a BFN (actually two, one cheapie and one FR - newbie mistake there! I don't plan to pull out the spendy tests until the TWW has at least passed or to verify the cheapies) I'm not sure how many DPO I am, but it's only been 9 days since we first BD so probably far too early to get a positive.

How soon does a BFP generally come? I know everyone's different, but on the conservative end? 15 DPO or so?

Now that it's time I'm just super excited and really can't wait to see that positive test. I know stress does not help the situation and I need to chill out, wait for AF and then do what I can to read the next cycle so that we can hit that fertile window. I can't help but worry about the last cycle being so long (and I assume annovulatory, just because it took SOO long and I felt no PMS, no symptoms whatsoever). Nothing to do about that exept move on!

I'm thinking about starting temping next cycle jsut to have some data other than subjective feelings and 'symptoms'

I hope everyone is having a good week!

I had a day in my 2WW where I broke out on my forehead. I think Missy did too. When I input that into my FF app, it gave me some extra pregnancy points (whatever that means). I think the general consensus for a safe time to test and get an accurate result is 12-14DPO. I got mine at 11DPO, but I have a shorter LP than most people. 18DPO is generally a pretty good sign that you're PG! When do you plan to test again?

 

[PilsnPinkysMom]

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Just wanted to say "hey!" and that I'm following along with all of your TTC tales

I'm still not trying/not preventing/not keeping track of my cycles... 'cause... you know... I don't want to know if I'm on CD 12 or anything

It's been a crazy week but I will try to type out proper responses over the next few days!

 

[megumic]

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Ugh, I haven't even read through all the new posts, but I need to quickly vent. Someone I didn't even tell about the MC sent me a sympathy card. I'm so irritated. I know the couple means well, but quite frankly, if I didn't tell you personally, it's just none of your business, and the fact that you found out, you should just keep it to yourself b/c if we talk regularly, and I didn't tell you, then I probably don't want to talk to you about it or share it with you. UGhhhhhhhhH. It's making me SO ANGRY!

Am I being ridiculous? b/c I probably am and cannot rationalize anything right now, but I just feel like it's something so personal and I feel like I'm being invaded. Also, I don't quite think a sympathy card is exactly appropriate either. We received cards like "hope you feel some extra sunshine today" and encouragement, but not sympathy. Ugh. Am I wrong? Am I being nuts???

Sorry for being a bat out of hell...promise to respond to all y'all later

 

[LtlFirecracker]

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Prana - I have been doing yoga too. I have been making some good progress in the last few months. I just got into crow pose and can get my head a few inches off the ground in wheel. I find that focusing on my yoga goals helps me not worry so much about the fact that nothing is happening. It is kind of sad, but I say, well at least I have another month to get my crow pose more steady. I will still do yoga once we are successful conceiving, but I know a lot of the poses I am working on will be put on hold for about a year. I am glad you stood up to that nurse!

amc80 - you sound just like me the first month we really tried! I had the cramps, the breast tenderness, and even the lower backache, and than a neg pregnancy test. I was so sure I was positive that month. Than I remembered some stuff from my physiology class. For the first 10-14 days or so your body is preparing for pregnancy weather or not you conceived, so the symptoms are going to be very similar. The corpus luteum (the part of the egg that makes hormones that signals to your body you are pregnant) makes hormones weather or not fertilization happens. So for the first few days, the hormones in the body between a pregnant and non pregnant women are the same. If there is no fertilization, than there is no implantation. If there is no implantation, than the corpus luteum dies, the hormones all drop and you have your period. They call it a TWW for a reason, it is so anxiety provoking and there is nothing you can do about it! After doing this for 6 months, I have just learned to try and relax, and not think about it until it is time to take the pregnancy test. Easier said than done, but right now, it is so hard to say anything definitive. I am really holding out for you, your odds are about as good as they get. I would not worry about the EWCM. Remember, all the stuff you are reading are generalizations. Every body is different, and not every body "reads the textbook."

missracheik - Without getting into it, 2 weeks is about right for a home pregnancy test to become positive. If you want a more detailed answer let me know, but it basically depends on when implantation can occur and that is different for everyone. For a HPT, I have seen ranges from about 12-19 days past ovulation. From what I read, you should check the day after you missed your period, and if your period still has not come a week later, check again. Wishing you luck.

Mayerline - yeah! So glad to see that post. I am so hoping something went wrong with the OPK! I have never done one, so I have no idea if you need to leave it out to room temperature.

As for me, I had dental work today, had a few small cavities filled. That is a big relief, as someone told me that tooth decay might be linked to premature births. But the numbing medicine spread from my upper jaw to lower jaw, and I am super hungry! Looking forward to be able to chew again in a couple hours.

 

[megumic]

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PPM, geeeeeze! CD 12? I mean, might as well be CD 348957349857 for all you know!

mayerling, sometimes I have a temp shift w/o ovulating. It’s the big jump spiky temp shifts that count. Sometimes if I drink a lot the night before or sleep in really late or have a cold my temp will spike and I just won’t count that temp as meaningful since it would be an outlier for another reason than O.

amc, early symptoms were really thick CM about a week before MP, sore boobs about 4-5 days before MP, really tired 3 days before MP and started peeing like constantly and very thirsty. Fingers crossed for you!

Prana, yay for sunflower kernels! A friend today just said how great sunflower butter tastes (like peanut butter, but better for you!) She gets it at Trader Joe’s, so once I pick some up I’ll let ya know how it is.

I know I didn’t hit everyone, but just wanted to touch on some recent posties.

AFM, still fuming over that dumb card. Go eff off. Honestly. And it was only addressed to me, as if DH isn’t grieving as well. What is he?? CHOPPED LIVER!? Going for HCG bloodwork tomorrow and hoping it’s back to a big fat zero so we can get after it this weekend. Even though my doc said 2 cycles, we aren’t listening to that. I have an appt with her Monday for an annual and to chat.

 

[missrachelk]

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thanks S&I and LtlFirecracker!

I think I will wait to test again until Sunday - or if I can stand it and AF hasn't come yet, maybe until the 3rd. Since I'm not sure when I O'd Sunday would be 14 days from possible fertilization, and the 3rd would be when AF could be considered a week late (cd 35). Since my cycle has been wonky and I wasn't planning to TTC I don't have history of cycle lengths for the past few months. I just don't know when to expect AF or when O happened (just praying that it did, and will continue until I can figure out when it is happening again!) I am also planning NOT to test again until I get my pack of internet cheapies (I got the big combo of OPK's and PG tests) so that I can 'save up' the FR's for verification / to double check the cheapies once I feel more sure about what is going on.

Sorry I don't have everyone's names straight yet - but I totally agree that it's inappropriate to send a sympathy card about a MC that you wren't even told about personally! That sounds to me like someone trying to bring attention to themselves, because that is such a private situation and is really nobody's business unless you've confided in them. Even for a close friend I don't think I would send / give a card, I think it wouldn't really be helpful, it's not the same as another loss, like of a family member.

If I'm not PG I am really pretty upset about the state of my face! It was never this bad, even as a young teen before BC, so that makes me feel like something is going on with my hormones. I had a facial about 2 weeks ago and got a whole new set of products, all plant based from my favorite line - Eminence - a few of them are from a line that's supposed to be hormone balancing, but it seems to be still busting out in new places what seems like every day! I like how the new products feel and hopefully a few more weeks and I'll see some improvement -- or those 2 lines and then it will all be worth it

 

[mayerling]

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Meg, I'm sorry about the card. Some people just don't know what's appropriate and what isn't. It should really have occurred to them that if you didn't tell them about the pregnancy, you probably wouldn't want them bringing up a miscarriage.

Missrachelk, I'm sorry about the break-outs. Let's hope they lead to something good!

AFM, FF told me today that I ovulated on CD13 based on higher temps for the last three days. It's interesting because I've always assumed that I ovulated on CD14. Anyway, I guess it made the decision on the basis of my last 3 temps without paying much attention to my OPKs and CF. Let's hope it's right.

 

[BrightSpot]

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AMC- I have zero symptoms until about 6 weeks every time. The only telltale thing for me was lots of creamy CM the week before I was due, which I know a few others have had. I wasn't charting so no idea about temps, etc.

Hey China, do you mean you saw the creamy CM the week before AF was due or your pregnancy due date?
Hope you're well, friend.

 

[Puppmom]

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Meg, that was totally inappropriate. Does this couple generally lack social skills? That was seriously idiotic on their part. I didn't tell anyone about by m/c (except one friend who I knew recently had one) because I didn't want to talk about it/have anyone feel sorry for me/be reminded of it when I was lucky enough to have a moment not to be thinking about it.

The only thing I can think of is that maybe they've suffered a loss too? I would be ticked at the person who decided to share your business!

 

[Prana]

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Ltlfirecracker Yay for crow pose! Once you get it, you'll feel amazing! It's such a strong pose and it makes me fell empowered, like I'm conquering something fierce! Wheel pose, too--so much energy is taken in and released for me in that pose. You are gonna be so strong! I plan on continuing my practice as well. One of the studios that I frequent offers a prenatal yoga class, so I'm hoping to be lucky enough to join that one soon I also plan to continue cycling as I love it and don't think I could give it up. Glad you got your teeth fixed up! I just had a bunch of dental work done as well so I feel your numb face pain!

Megumic
Sorry about the card. I'm sure they had the best intentions in mind. Sometimes people don't know how to react, or realize that silence is OK, and you don't always need to have a reaction or something to say. A sympathy card is sort of odd, I must say. And please let me know how you like the sunflower butter! I will definitely give that a try!
And I wish you luck with your HCG levels, and all the best with moving forward!


AFM, something different is happening in my cycle this month. I have had good amounts of watery CM with a little EW mixed in last night and this morning. I used an OPK around 9PM last night, because I forgot to take one to work, and I got a smiley face (I use the clear blue easy digital ones). The line was dark, but not as dark as the control line, so I'm thinking I was at the end of my LH surge, but I don't know how long those things pick up an LH surge. I had a rise in temp yesterday morning as well, I didn't think it was above my coverline, but FF seemed to think it was. It wasn't the usual clear spike that I usually get. (Usually in my pre O phase, my temps are 96.9-97.2, but mostly in the 97-97.2 range. After O, they are above 97.7. Yesterday my temp went from 97.22 to 97.52, then 97.77 this AM.)So when I put my temp in this morning (my temp was up to post O levels), FF gave me crosshairs indicating that I O'd on CD 13, which would be great but I don't think it's accurate. Once I put in my + OPK, FF told me it had no idea what was going on at this time. So I don't have any crosshairs on my chart yet, I had a slow rise in temp, my CM is still fertile quality, my temps indicate that O has taken place, I have no idea what is going on either. All I know is that we covered all our bases with every other day BD, so I'm just gonna continue on that course for the next couple of days. Today is CD 16, which is when I usually O. So I have no idea wether I've started the TWW or not. Whatever! I'm not sure if I should feel hopeful or not. All I know is that my body feels good, and hopefully we catch the egg and it takes up residence.
If anybody is still reading this and cares to chime in their thoughts or opinions, I would gladly hear them!

 

[Prana]

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AFM, FF told me today that I ovulated on CD13 based on higher temps for the last three days. It's interesting because I've always assumed that I ovulated on CD14. Anyway, I guess it made the decision on the basis of my last 3 temps without paying much attention to my OPKs and CF. Let's hope it's right.

Mayerling, we are ultimate cycle buds this month for sure! My cycle was out of whack for me as well! Now we get to play the wait and see game.....

 

[ChinaCat]

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Hi Bright! I meant the week before AF was due. Usually it goes away, but each time I have been pregnant, I have continued to have creamy CM. I literally had no other symptoms till 6 weeks. No tiredness, no sore boobs, no nausea, nothing. The last few cycles I had wicked back aches right before AF was due. I had them the cycle I got preggo so I was sure I was out, but nope. How are you doing? I check in here often to see how you and the girls are doing. I don't post much, but I'm here rooting for you! On the hair dye thing- everyone says you can still do it while preggo. I think highlighting is perfectly ok- if you dye the whole head, you might want to wait till after 1st trimester. I have some serious roots right now, but holding out for a few more weeks. With O, I did get highlights in the first trimester. I try to find an Aveda salon or someplace where it's more "natural".

Meg- Not sure if I ever commented, but I am so sorry about all of this. And I am sure they meant well, but yeah, a bit insenstitive on the card. Totally get why you are angry and feel violated. It's so personal. Hugs lady.

 

[tammy77]

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Hi ladies, I hope everyone's doing well. I'm feeling pretty down about the TTC topic in general. I just feel broken. My temps are all over the place, I'm on CD 20 and I was SO sure that I'd O'd yesterday but my temp stayed low today and my CM is back to nothing. I'm going to keep temping, but I'm just stuck. I know many ladies have gone far longer so I really shouldn't be complaining. The thing is, if I knew it was a temporary thing for sure and that I'd be back to normal by the time we're ready to TTC in March, I wouldn't be quite so wound up about it. I have huge issues with the unknown.

So that's my uneventful update. I'll be quietly cheering you all on, I just wanted to give a little update since I know I'd started posting fairly regularly here and I don't have the heart to in my current state of limbo. Good luck ladies.

 

[amc80]

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Help. My temps are all whacked out and I'm not sure what to do. FF is insisting I O'd on CD16. Which totally makes sense based on my temps. But on CD18 I had the intense O pains as well as the really REALLY positive OPK, so I'm about 99% sure I O'd that day.

I think part of the problem is my CD17 temp was high (97.04), BUT it was taken 2.5 hours later than normal.


If I adjust it for my normal time, it goes to 96.54. But I'm not sure I should do this because typically, time doesn't really impact my temps all that much, if at all. And I would have thought doing this would change my O date to CD17, but it doesn't change my crosshairs at all.


Charters, what would you do? Should I stick with CD16 as O day? Should I manually move it to CD18? I also put in dummy temps for tomorrow to see if it would give me CD18, but no luck.

ETA- and if those weren't O pains, what else could they be? They sure felt like them...

 

[Prana]

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Hi ladies, I hope everyone's doing well. I'm feeling pretty down about the TTC topic in general. I just feel broken. My temps are all over the place, I'm on CD 20 and I was SO sure that I'd O'd yesterday but my temp stayed low today and my CM is back to nothing. I'm going to keep temping, but I'm just stuck. I know many ladies have gone far longer so I really shouldn't be complaining. The thing is, if I knew it was a temporary thing for sure and that I'd be back to normal by the time we're ready to TTC in March, I wouldn't be quite so wound up about it. I have huge issues with the unknown.

So that's my uneventful update. I'll be quietly cheering you all on, I just wanted to give a little update since I know I'd started posting fairly regularly here and I don't have the heart to in my current state of limbo. Good luck ladies.

Sorry Tammy It is really hard not to be able to have control over something, especially something that you want so so so bad.

 

[Prana]

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Help. My temps are all whacked out and I'm not sure what to do. FF is insisting I O'd on CD16. Which totally makes sense based on my temps. But on CD18 I had the intense O pains as well as the really REALLY positive OPK, so I'm about 99% sure I O'd that day.

I think part of the problem is my CD17 temp was high (97.04), BUT it was taken 2.5 hours later than normal.


If I adjust it for my normal time, it goes to 96.54. But I'm not sure I should do this because typically, time doesn't really impact my temps all that much, if at all. And I would have thought doing this would change my O date to CD17, but it doesn't change my crosshairs at all.


Charters, what would you do? Should I stick with CD16 as O day? Should I manually move it to CD18? I also put in dummy temps for tomorrow to see if it would give me CD18, but no luck.

ETA- and if those weren't O pains, what else could they be? They sure felt like them...

Hey AMC- I get O pains as well, and I tried to find some info on what caused them, and stumbled across a few sites that said a lot of O pains actually happen after ovulation secondary to the swelling from the fluid build up from the release of the egg. I alway thought that I was feeling myself getting ready to ovulate, or that I was feeling O, but I actually think I might be feeling the aftershock! It's amazing how much we learn about our bodies through TTC. Do you think it's possible you are feeling the pains after you O?

And it does seem like FF predicted O correctly based on your chart...what if you took that temp out for that day and left it blank? Maybe FF would change it's mind, just so you could compare possibilities?

 

[amc80]

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Hey AMC- I get O pains as well, and I tried to find some info on what caused them, and stumbled across a few sites that said a lot of O pains actually happen after ovulation secondary to the swelling from the fluid build up from the release of the egg. I alway thought that I was feeling myself getting ready to ovulate, or that I was feeling O, but I actually think I might be feeling the aftershock! It's amazing how much we learn about our bodies through TTC. Do you think it's possible you are feeling the pains after you O?

And it does seem like FF predicted O correctly based on your chart...what if you took that temp out for that day and left it blank? Maybe FF would change it's mind, just so you could compare possibilities?

I tried that, and it moves it a day earlier. Okay, I guess I'll go ahead and leave it. What you said does make sense. I guess my other hang up was how positive my OPK was that day, along with the timing of when I felt the pains. Here's something I don't know- does O always happen after the absolute peak of the LH surge? Or is it possible to reach an LH level high enough to where it causes ovulation, but then still have your levels go up a bit? It would seem that ovulation would cause your LH to stop rising, but who knows...

 

[amc80]

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Hi ladies, I hope everyone's doing well. I'm feeling pretty down about the TTC topic in general. I just feel broken. My temps are all over the place, I'm on CD 20 and I was SO sure that I'd O'd yesterday but my temp stayed low today and my CM is back to nothing. I'm going to keep temping, but I'm just stuck. I know many ladies have gone far longer so I really shouldn't be complaining. The thing is, if I knew it was a temporary thing for sure and that I'd be back to normal by the time we're ready to TTC in March, I wouldn't be quite so wound up about it. I have huge issues with the unknown.

So that's my uneventful update. I'll be quietly cheering you all on, I just wanted to give a little update since I know I'd started posting fairly regularly here and I don't have the heart to in my current state of limbo. Good luck ladies.

I completely missed this post, sorry!!
You just JUST came off the pill. Give it some time. I've even heard of women who have a "normal" cycle immediately after going off the pill, but then it gets messed up after that. I think what you're going through cycle was is pretty normal considering you've been on the pill for a while. The good news is you have a few months to get things figured out befor it's TTC time.