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Well, Now Brett Kavanaugh Can Face His Accuser

They cannot or are not able to talk to everyone are they? Trump put a stop to that. They didn't even talk to either Ford or Kavanaugh.. Crazy stuff here. Slanted and self serving.

You are not hearing me when I say, Kavanaugh is partisan and he said horrible things about democrats and total fabrication of a Clinton led retaliation, what was his proof? He is not fair he is an entitled hypocrite. He and Clarence Thomas.

It’s already been widely reported that Trump gave the FBI wide lattitude with regard to the sexual misconduct allegations and to interview whomever they felt they needed to. The FBI did that - finishing before the timeline in fact - and they appear to have found NOTHING to corroborate the claims. They didn’t need to talk to Ford or Kav, as they already had 4 hours of Ford’s testimony and 30+ hours of Kav’s, plus his other 6 FBI background investigations. Truth be told, it’s probably a good thing they didn’t talk to Ford again, lest her memory fail her again and she given conflicting testimony to catch herself in a perjury trap.

What Kav said about democrats is the TRUTH, and he was under oath so he had to say it because God knows, someone had to call them out on their BS. I applaud him for standing up to them, and I’d do it again every day of the week and twice on Sundays. :appl::appl:

Dems made their bed on this nomination ... now they get to all gather up together and lay in it. That - IMO - is what I’d call a Devils’ Triangle.
 
The fact that discussion of a drinking game or lewd comments from someone's HS or college days is the cliffhanger on this is mind boggling.

It isn't. It's the lying under oath. Now why would Brett have to lie. Because if he admits he and his buds used to talk about the ol' Devil's triangle in their younger years then it just might look like he and his buds engaged in MMF threesomes in those younger years. And if that's what they were into, while drinking themselves into oblivion while at the same time being jacked from all that lifting, it might lead some to think that the line of consent may have been crossed with the F in the MMF Devil's Triangle. Much easier and convenient to lie about the whole thing and come up with Drinking Game!! Yeah, that's it - it's a drinking game! (And sometimes when you drink too much it makes you gassy and you Boof!) Since it had already been established that everyone was OK with illegal underage drinking because everyone does that, that was the safe way to go and no one can prove that the silly words mean anything else. (Which begs the question of why do we have a ridiculously high legal drinking age when everyone accepts that high schoolers drink, but that's another thread.)

Anyway, listening to his testimony was surreal for me because he sounded exactly like (some) high schoolers I deal with today. When in the cross-fire, equivocate!

I'm resigned to the fact that Kavanaugh will be our next SJC. I won't be protesting because there is no point to it. I will follow @mrs-b 's advice and I hope that others will as well.

Red, I'm surprised by your vitriol towards "the dems." You make it sound like they're ruining all our lives. Last week you were certain they were going to drag out the investigation and that would "expose them for who they really are." Well, they didn't, so what's the exposé? That they are not as ruthless as republicans? :lol:
 
This is not the first time you wrote "feminist" preceded by a pejorative description. "Feminist" is not a dirty word. Usually only men call women "femi-nazis". Insecure men, that is.
And? I’ve read at least a dozen references on here today to “old white men” in this thread and no one bats an eye. If you have a problem with my choice of words, be sure to police others as well.

You don't get to yell and be aggressive when speaking to Senators unless you want to make a point and belligerently verbally assault them in an elevator, then it’s A-okay.
I fixed that for you. :wavey:
 
It’s already been widely reported that Trump gave the FBI wide lattitude with regard to the sexual misconduct allegations and to interview whomever they felt they needed to. The FBI did that - finishing before the timeline in fact - and they appear to have found NOTHING to corroborate the claims. They didn’t need to talk to Ford or Kav, as they already had 4 hours of Ford’s testimony and 30+ hours of Kav’s, plus his other 6 FBI background investigations. Truth be told, it’s probably a good thing they didn’t talk to Ford again, lest her memory fail her again and she given conflicting testimony to catch herself in a perjury trap.

What Kav said about democrats is the TRUTH, and he was under oath so he had to say it because God knows, someone had to call them out on their BS. I applaud him for standing up to them, and I’d do it again every day of the week and twice on Sundays. :appl::appl:

Dems made their bed on this nomination ... now they get to all gather up together and lay in it. That - IMO - is what I’d call a Devils’ Triangle.


LOL. Trump lies daily. Do you think for one minute most Americans believe anything that comes out of his mouth. It’s being reported it was a very limited investigation. In no way did Trump give a wide latitude in this investigation.
 
How many times do people have to write Kavanaugh LIED UNDER OATH before it sinks in. This is perjury and it’s against the law.

Probably about as many times as THERE’S NO EVIDENCE OR CORROBORATION FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGATIONS for people to maybe afford Kav the presumption of innocence he deserves as a citizen of this country.
 
How many times do people have to write Kavanaugh LIED UNDER OATH before it sinks in. This is perjury and it’s against the law.

Because when you are a person of privilege lies aren't really lies. More like truth twisting semantics. Clinton: I did not have sexual relations with that woman. That was the truth (to him) because he chose to define sexual relations as intercourse not oral.

We all know (even those who claim it hasn't sunk in) that Kavanaugh lied about never blacking out and the sexual terms in his yearbook, but no one can prove it, so it isn't a real lie. People of low integrity live by plausible deniability.
 
It isn't. It's the lying under oath. Now why would Brett have to lie. Because if he admits he and his buds used to talk about the ol' Devil's triangle in their younger years then it just might look like he and his buds engaged in MMF threesomes in those younger years. And if that's what they were into, while drinking themselves into oblivion while at the same time being jacked from all that lifting, it might lead some to think that the line of consent may have been crossed with the F in the MMF Devil's Triangle. Much easier and convenient to lie about the whole thing and come up with Drinking Game!! Yeah, that's it - it's a drinking game! (And sometimes when you drink too much it makes you gassy and you Boof!) Since it had already been established that everyone was OK with illegal underage drinking because everyone does that, that was the safe way to go and no one can prove that the silly words mean anything else. (Which begs the question of why do we have a ridiculously high legal drinking age when everyone accepts that high schoolers drink, but that's another thread.)

Anyway, listening to his testimony was surreal for me because he sounded exactly like (some) high schoolers I deal with today. When in the cross-fire, equivocate!

I'm resigned to the fact that Kavanaugh will be our next SJC. I won't be protesting because there is no point to it. I will follow @mrs-b 's advice and I hope that others will as well.

Red, I'm surprised by your vitriol towards "the dems." You make it sound like they're ruining all our lives. Last week you were certain they were going to drag out the investigation and that would "expose them for who they really are." Well, they didn't, so what's the exposé? That they are not as ruthless as republicans? :lol:

Dems can lie in this bed they made as MoT said earlier. They did drag out this circus and for nothing apparently according to Booker because it doesn't matter if he did it or not. What it has shown me is that dems are not reasonable people if they support this shit show. Dems did show who they were by calling for the very professional FBI to do an investigation and then when they don't like the result say it's a sham or a cover-up. LOL.
 
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It was not reported by the Democrats. It was reported by Trump and company.

https://www.wgbh.org/news/national-...ess-of-fbi-investigation-into-brett-kavanaugh

Did they interview everyone? they didn't interview Kavanaugh OR Ford..that is crazy actions. Who cares if they had 100 hours or 1 hour of their testimony - they should have reinterviewed both, what kind of investigation doesn't talk to the accuser and the accused, obviously Trump said they couldn't talk to either. Truth known, if Ford forgot more or remembered more would be important to the case, but we will never know because the republicans have shoved this shady POS thru. Really, if she gave conflicting evidence you would be overjoyed, or are you now feeling some of her angst? Kavanaugh has already been caught lying, his college roomate said he blacked out at Yale yet he lied and said he never did or are you ignoring that part?

No what Kavanaugh said under oath was a lie, there was no conspiracy, and why do republicans always run around like chickens with their heads cut off and make up conspiracies, there is NO EVIDENCE that Hillary Clinton was behind anything, either put up or shut up on that pearl of wisdom, seriously MT there is really beyond

Why was there a fairly easy time for Gorsuch? Because no one approached the democrats with a heartfelt story about being attacked and her attackers alcohol and gambling problems. If there had been the democrats would have, you have no logic.

We all know what a Devils Triangle means, especially Kavanaugh, means nothing to me. I hope Trump is looking forward to democrats issuing subpoena's in November. He deserves it. No one is above the law, some lie their way like Trump, cheat their way like Trump, but always what goes around eventually comes back atcha! should be fun.


It’s already been widely reported that Trump gave the FBI wide lattitude with regard to the sexual misconduct allegations and to interview whomever they felt they needed to. The FBI did that - finishing before the timeline in fact - and they appear to have found NOTHING to corroborate the claims. They didn’t need to talk to Ford or Kav, as they already had 4 hours of Ford’s testimony and 30+ hours of Kav’s, plus his other 6 FBI background investigations. Truth be told, it’s probably a good thing they didn’t talk to Ford again, lest her memory fail her again and she given conflicting testimony to catch herself in a perjury trap.

What Kav said about democrats is the TRUTH, and he was under oath so he had to say it because God knows, someone had to call them out on their BS. I applaud him for standing up to them, and I’d do it again every day of the week and twice on Sundays. :appl::appl:

Dems made their bed on this nomination ... now they get to all gather up together and lay in it. That - IMO - is what I’d call a Devils’ Triangle.

Bernie Sanders is a hero to many of us young and old alike. He’s an old white man. Adding racism, ageism and sexism to our arguments is stereotyping and false.
 
There are men and women on this thread who whole heartily support a president who admitted ON TAPE to sexually assaulting women and don't give a shit. Why would they give a shit about any other man being accused of the same? They. Don't. Care. They've shown a constant double standard of believing men and shutting down women. They've willfully twisted posts on here to fit their own narrative. They've ignored actual facts even when shown when theyre wrong. *shrug*
 
What this shows me is that republicans are liars, they will do anything to hurt a victim of sexual abuse, they will do anything they can to change this country into a fascist military organization with no care of their allies. It has shown me that repubs are not reasonable people as they did not support this woman and with their sh- actions and their inability to listen, in pushing their agenda of right wing partisan views that penalize women.. they are Pathetic.

Dems can lie in this bed they made as MoT said earlier. They did drag out this circus and for nothing apparently according to Booker because it doesn't matter if he did it or not. What it has shown me is that dems are not reasonable people if they support this woman and made the whole thing a shit show.
 
If the Democrats re-take the house in November, the Ways and Means Committee have the legal authority to have the IRS provide them with the president's tax returns.

There is no point contributing energy to a thread such as this one. Use your time to phone bank, canvas, put up signs, and get the vote out.

In 2020 the individual states will redraw their congressional districts. Only once every 10 years does this process take place, based on current census data. In 2010, Republicans redrew the boundaries and gained control of 12 more state legislatures, ultimately taking over the house with a solid 234 to 201 majority. This was despite house Democratic candidates getting an extra 1.4 million votes (remind you of anything?)

Don't be misled by this frenzy of hatred. Do what needs to be done.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I wish I could post this everywhere. I will take it to heart.
 
Dems can lie in this bed they made as MoT said earlier. They did drag out this circus and for nothing apparently according to Booker because it doesn't matter if he did it or not. What it has shown me is that dems are not reasonable people if they support this shit show.

OK, so you're mad at the dems because they embarrassed poor ol' Brett Kavanaugh? Do you honestly think for a moment that if this guy had been nominated by a democrat president and the republicans were in the minority that they wouldn't have pounced on him? So laughable.

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You have stated that it was reasonable for Merrick Garland to not be considered since Obama already got 2 picks. Now Trump will get his 2. If another SC opening comes up before a democrat president is elected, what do you think should happen?
 
What this shows me is that republicans are liars, they will do anything to hurt a victim of sexual abuse, they will do anything they can to change this country into a fascist military organization with no care of their allies. It has shown me that repubs are not reasonable people as they did not support this woman and with their sh- actions and their inability to listen, in pushing their agenda of right wing partisan views that penalize women.. they are Pathetic.
Don't edit my posts in your replies. You know I did not post that. Bad form.
 
There are men and women on this thread who whole heartily support a president who admitted ON TAPE to sexually assaulting women and don't give a shit. Why would they give a shit about any other man being accused of the same? They. Don't. Care. They've shown a constant double standard of believing men and shutting down women. They've willfully twisted posts on here to fit their own narrative. They've ignored actual facts even when shown when theyre wrong. *shrug*

I'm SAYIN! None of them care! They literally want to punch victims of sexual assault in the face. We've reached the bottom of the swamp, folks! Hope you enjoy your stay :wavey:
 
OK, so you're mad at the dems because they embarrassed poor ol' Brett Kavanaugh? Do you honestly think for a moment that if this guy had been nominated by a democrat president and the republicans were in the minority that they wouldn't have pounced on him? So laughable.
No they would have never done this kind of skeevy holding of allegations in secret to plop them out after the hearings were over.
 
OK, so you're mad at the dems because they embarrassed poor ol' Brett Kavanaugh? Do you honestly think for a moment that if this guy had been nominated by a democrat president and the republicans were in the minority that they wouldn't have pounced on him? So laughable.

edited to add:
You have stated that it was reasonable for Merrick Garland to not be considered since Obama already got 2 picks. Now Trump will get his 2. If another SC opening comes up before a democrat president is elected, what do you think should happen?
If it's in 2020 then they can hold off. But if RBG dies next year then no.
 
what? did I edit your post? I quoted it then replied ?????

Don't edit my posts in your replies. You know I did not post that. Bad form.
 
No they would have never done this kind of skeevy holding of allegations in secret to plop them out after the hearings were over.

Oh I actually agree with you there - they would have plopped them out well before and then some! Republicans go next level on dragging out investigations - dems are absolute wimps in comparison.

I edited my last post, you may not have seen it. Curious how you would answer this:

You have stated that it was reasonable for Merrick Garland to not be considered since Obama already got 2 picks. Now Trump will get his 2. If another SC opening comes up before a democrat president is elected, what do you think should happen?
 
what? did I edit your post? I quoted it then replied ?????
I apologize. I am trying to talk to two people, and edit of course, don't you know. You have to give me a minute.
 
If it's in 2020 then they can hold off. But if RBG dies next year then no.

Awww, please let's say "if RBG retires next year," don't want to jinx an esteemed person (or anyone really).

I don't understand your answer. Are you saying if an opening came up next year that Trump shouldn't fill it?
 

Listen, whatever you do DON'T make it about race, because racism isn't a "thing" anymore and we all know it, and no one on this forum was willfully ignoring racism or its existence when BLM was protesting police shootings. Nothing remotely racist was ever said, except for racism against white people which is totally a thing.
 
Listen, whatever you do DON'T make it about race, because racism isn't a "thing" anymore and we all know it, and no one on this forum was willfully ignoring racism or its existence when BLM was protesting police shootings.
What was that lynching joke again? I can't quite remember it, only that it was soooo funny!
 
Awww, please let's say "if RBG retires next year," don't want to jinx an esteemed person (or anyone really).

I don't understand your answer. Are you saying if an opening came up next year that Trump shouldn't fill it?
If RBG "retires" next year then the seat is fair for him to fill. If in 2020 then they could wait until after the election. I am fine with this scenario.

Speaking of RBG and people's problem with Kavanaugh's "partisan" comments, did anyone feel the same way about her comments of Trump as a sitting justice?
 
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