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Who''s excited to hear from "Joe the plummer" tomorrow?
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Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
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How do we know that for sure? It could be that Joe''s boss fired him for some reason completely unrelated to the election, or maybe Joe got laid off due to the "fundamentally strong" economy?Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/17/joe-plumber-appear-mike-huckabees-new-fox-news/
Our favorite plumber will be on Huckabee''s show tomorrow. If you haven''t seen Huckabee''s show you are missing out, regardless of which side you fall on!
Our favorite plumber will be on Huckabee''s show tomorrow. If you haven''t seen Huckabee''s show you are missing out, regardless of which side you fall on!
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Ok, I have a couple of questions.Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
When did Joe ask Obama the question?
Who brought Joe up at the debate?
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Date: 10/17/2008 3:56:42 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
How do we know that for sure? It could be that Joe''s boss fired him for some reason completely unrelated to the election, or maybe Joe got laid off due to the ''fundamentally strong'' economy?Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
Maybe, it''s all possible. Just saying..don''t go ask Obama a question or you''ll feel the repercussions including having your life posted on left-wing blogs.
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Hmm...I wonder how many people ask Obama questions every day that we never, ever, hear about.Date: 10/17/2008 3:57:40 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:56:42 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
How do we know that for sure? It could be that Joe''s boss fired him for some reason completely unrelated to the election, or maybe Joe got laid off due to the ''fundamentally strong'' economy?Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
Maybe, it''s all possible. Just saying..don''t go ask Obama a question or you''ll feel the repercussions including having your life posted on left-wing blogs.
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Date: 10/17/2008 3:57:10 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
Ok, I have a couple of questions.
When did Joe ask Obama the question?
Who brought Joe up at the debate?
Joe asked Obama a question outside a rally, do you want the video link? I am sorry, I thought you had seen it.
Second question - McCain asked Obama about Joe.
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Date: 10/17/2008 3:58:44 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 3:57:40 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:56:42 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
How do we know that for sure? It could be that Joe''s boss fired him for some reason completely unrelated to the election, or maybe Joe got laid off due to the ''fundamentally strong'' economy?Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
Maybe, it''s all possible. Just saying..don''t go ask Obama a question or you''ll feel the repercussions including having your life posted on left-wing blogs.
Hmm...I wonder how many people ask Obama questions every day that we never, ever, hear about.
Wow, they''re so lucky, aren''t they?
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Yeah, because McCain didn''t bring their name up at a debate!Date: 10/17/2008 4:00:29 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:58:44 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 3:57:40 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:56:42 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
How do we know that for sure? It could be that Joe''s boss fired him for some reason completely unrelated to the election, or maybe Joe got laid off due to the ''fundamentally strong'' economy?Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
Maybe, it''s all possible. Just saying..don''t go ask Obama a question or you''ll feel the repercussions including having your life posted on left-wing blogs.
Hmm...I wonder how many people ask Obama questions every day that we never, ever, hear about.
Wow, they''re so lucky, aren''t they?
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I didn''t ask where, I said when. And I was actually being rhetorical. You insist that the only reason this guy is being "crucified" is because he dare asked "the one" a question, when in actuality, he is being hounded by the media because McCain made him an issue during the debate and because Joe was willing to accept every or darn near every interview request!! I do not understand how you shift this blame to Obama.Date: 10/17/2008 3:59:53 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:57:10 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 3:54:52 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 3:52:20 PM
Author: Irishgrrrl
Certainly the plumbing company he works/worked for knew he didn''t have a license? I think it''s pretty common in the construction trades for the workers to not have their own individual licenses, but to work under the license held by the owner of the company. If that''s the case with Joe''s job, then I think we can only blame his employer if he is, in fact, losing his job.
Maybe..but if Joe hadn''t dared to ask Obama a question..well it wouldn''t have ever happened, would it? I am still waiting for an Obama supporter/independent that leans Obama that this has happened to, btw.
Ok, I have a couple of questions.
When did Joe ask Obama the question?
Who brought Joe up at the debate?
Joe asked Obama a question outside a rally, do you want the video link? I am sorry, I thought you had seen it.
Second question - McCain asked Obama about Joe.
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You have absolutely no proof that others on the campaign trail are not asking anti-Obama questions. What you do know, however, is that McCain chose to bring up this particular person 20 something times during a national debate. McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this dude is "famous", McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this guy is getting so much attention, and Joe, not Obama, is the reason that he continues to get press because he continues to do interviews.Date: 10/17/2008 4:03:06 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
ETA: Weird quote got screwed up.
Anyway, they didn''t ask Obama a question that the MSM as well as left-wing blogs didn''t like! Oh and btw I am sorry..it looks like it was at Joe''s house that the questioning occurred? So it might have been during Obama''s door to door?
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It looks like the where was Joe''s front lawn, btw. But you''ll have to research if you''d like to confirm either way, I am tired of it at this point. You know Moon..I just don''t know how else to explain it to you flat out. Go do some cruising around and see how Joe is being treated and the names he is being called for asking Obama a question and then maybe you will understand? As for making him an issue during the debate..it''s not like Obama didn''t respond to it and continue it. McCain may have brought it up, but they both talked about it and talked to him, so I think that''s pretty irrelevant. Now the MSM is certainly not name-calling - don''t think I am saying that..they just jumped on the story all too happily which is to be expected I suppose. Nothing surprises me anymore at this point. But again, at this point..this is all just useless bickering so I am going to bow out.
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Not to mention you (Sarah) yourself said at the beginning of this thread that he was your hero, and you couldn't wait to hear more from him! But because it has been revealed he a) owes $1000 in taxes and b) isn't licensed (and is rumored to be losing his job) you wish the media would leave him alone? And somehow, this is all Obama's fault?
I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm just confused.
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Date: 10/17/2008 4:07:29 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 4:03:06 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
ETA: Weird quote got screwed up.
Anyway, they didn''t ask Obama a question that the MSM as well as left-wing blogs didn''t like! Oh and btw I am sorry..it looks like it was at Joe''s house that the questioning occurred? So it might have been during Obama''s door to door?
You have absolutely no proof that others on the campaign trail are not asking anti-Obama questions. What you do know, however, is that McCain chose to bring up this particular person 20 something times during a national debate. McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this dude is ''famous'', McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this guy is getting so much attention, and Joe, not Obama, is the reason that he continues to get press because he continues to do interviews.
You''re right, I don''t have any proof of that. Now where''s your anti-Obama person asking McCain a question that''s been attacked on right-wing blogs? As for McCain bringing him up - he did - but Obama also continued it. So just like it is at least partially Joe''s fault he lost his job (no license - bad boy) it is also Obama''s fault that the media picked this up so thoroughly. Obama AND McCain discussed Joe. Do you want to argue over how many times they used the name Joe? I think that''s pretty pointless personally, but hey if we''re going to spread the blame around let''s do it right, gosh darnit!
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I don't need to search left wing blogs to find out whatever is happening to this guy. It is irrelevant to the point. You claim this is Obama's fault, you claim it is the fault of supporters of Obama because the guy "dared" to ask a question. That is NOT the reason. Had McCain never tried to use him as a campaign issue no one would give a crap about Joe. It really is that simple. You can be upset that people want to post his private information all you like, but to claim the ONLY reason is because he asked a question is more than a little disingenuous.Date: 10/17/2008 4:10:53 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
It looks like the where was Joe's front lawn, btw. But you'll have to research if you'd like to confirm either way, I am tired of it at this point. You know Moon..I just don't know how else to explain it to you flat out. Go do some cruising around and see how Joe is being treated and the names he is being called for asking Obama a question and then maybe you will understand? As for making him an issue during the debate..it's not like Obama didn't respond to it and continue it. McCain may have brought it up, but they both talked about it and talked to him, so I think that's pretty irrelevant. Now the MSM is certainly not name-calling - don't think I am saying that..they just jumped on the story all too happily which is to be expected I suppose. Nothing surprises me anymore at this point. But again, at this point..this is all just useless bickering so I am going to bow out.
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Date: 10/17/2008 4:15:05 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 4:10:53 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
It looks like the where was Joe''s front lawn, btw. But you''ll have to research if you''d like to confirm either way, I am tired of it at this point. You know Moon..I just don''t know how else to explain it to you flat out. Go do some cruising around and see how Joe is being treated and the names he is being called for asking Obama a question and then maybe you will understand? As for making him an issue during the debate..it''s not like Obama didn''t respond to it and continue it. McCain may have brought it up, but they both talked about it and talked to him, so I think that''s pretty irrelevant. Now the MSM is certainly not name-calling - don''t think I am saying that..they just jumped on the story all too happily which is to be expected I suppose. Nothing surprises me anymore at this point. But again, at this point..this is all just useless bickering so I am going to bow out.
I don''t need to search left wing blogs to find out whatever is happening to this guy. It is irrelevant to the point. You claim this is Obama''s fault, you claim it is the fault of supporters of Obama because the guy ''dared'' to ask a question. That is NOT the reason. Had McCain never tried to use him as a campaign issue no one would give a crap about Joe. It really is that simple. You can be upset that people want to post his private information all you like, but to claim the ONLY reason is because he asked a question is more than little disingenuous.
We''ll disagree on that one..because it is my opinion that people are foaming at the mouth because he asked a question that no one on the far-left wanted to hear the answer to.
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LOL...Why exactly do I need to find an "anti-Obama person asking McCain a question that's been attacked on right-wing blogs?" What exactly does that have to do with the point of my posts about this issue? (red herring anyone?) Obama continued? Really? That's what you're trying to say? Obama needs to take responsibility for the fact that McCain tried to use Joe to attack Obama and my god, Obama defended himself so now it's his fault people want to know about Joe? Really??? Er...Date: 10/17/2008 4:14:07 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 4:07:29 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 4:03:06 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
ETA: Weird quote got screwed up.
Anyway, they didn't ask Obama a question that the MSM as well as left-wing blogs didn't like! Oh and btw I am sorry..it looks like it was at Joe's house that the questioning occurred? So it might have been during Obama's door to door?
You have absolutely no proof that others on the campaign trail are not asking anti-Obama questions. What you do know, however, is that McCain chose to bring up this particular person 20 something times during a national debate. McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this dude is 'famous', McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this guy is getting so much attention, and Joe, not Obama, is the reason that he continues to get press because he continues to do interviews.
You're right, I don't have any proof of that. Now where's your anti-Obama person asking McCain a question that's been attacked on right-wing blogs? As for McCain bringing him up - he did - but Obama also continued it. So just like it is at least partially Joe's fault he lost his job (no license - bad boy) it is also Obama's fault that the media picked this up so thoroughly. Obama AND McCain discussed Joe. Do you want to argue over how many times they used the name Joe? I think that's pretty pointless personally, but hey if we're going to spread the blame around let's do it right, gosh darnit!
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You really believe, had McCain not used this guy as a tool during a national debate, that we would even know "Joe the plumber" let alone that the media would give a crap? Seriously?Date: 10/17/2008 4:15:57 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 4:15:05 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 4:10:53 PM
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It looks like the where was Joe''s front lawn, btw. But you''ll have to research if you''d like to confirm either way, I am tired of it at this point. You know Moon..I just don''t know how else to explain it to you flat out. Go do some cruising around and see how Joe is being treated and the names he is being called for asking Obama a question and then maybe you will understand? As for making him an issue during the debate..it''s not like Obama didn''t respond to it and continue it. McCain may have brought it up, but they both talked about it and talked to him, so I think that''s pretty irrelevant. Now the MSM is certainly not name-calling - don''t think I am saying that..they just jumped on the story all too happily which is to be expected I suppose. Nothing surprises me anymore at this point. But again, at this point..this is all just useless bickering so I am going to bow out.
I don''t need to search left wing blogs to find out whatever is happening to this guy. It is irrelevant to the point. You claim this is Obama''s fault, you claim it is the fault of supporters of Obama because the guy ''dared'' to ask a question. That is NOT the reason. Had McCain never tried to use him as a campaign issue no one would give a crap about Joe. It really is that simple. You can be upset that people want to post his private information all you like, but to claim the ONLY reason is because he asked a question is more than little disingenuous.
We''ll disagree on that one..because it is my opinion that people are foaming at the mouth because he asked a question that no one on the far-left wanted to hear the answer to.
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Date: 10/17/2008 4:19:15 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 4:14:07 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 10/17/2008 4:07:29 PM
Author: MoonWater
Date: 10/17/2008 4:03:06 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
ETA: Weird quote got screwed up.
Anyway, they didn''t ask Obama a question that the MSM as well as left-wing blogs didn''t like! Oh and btw I am sorry..it looks like it was at Joe''s house that the questioning occurred? So it might have been during Obama''s door to door?
You have absolutely no proof that others on the campaign trail are not asking anti-Obama questions. What you do know, however, is that McCain chose to bring up this particular person 20 something times during a national debate. McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this dude is ''famous'', McCain, not Obama, is the reason why this guy is getting so much attention, and Joe, not Obama, is the reason that he continues to get press because he continues to do interviews.
You''re right, I don''t have any proof of that. Now where''s your anti-Obama person asking McCain a question that''s been attacked on right-wing blogs? As for McCain bringing him up - he did - but Obama also continued it. So just like it is at least partially Joe''s fault he lost his job (no license - bad boy) it is also Obama''s fault that the media picked this up so thoroughly. Obama AND McCain discussed Joe. Do you want to argue over how many times they used the name Joe? I think that''s pretty pointless personally, but hey if we''re going to spread the blame around let''s do it right, gosh darnit!
LOL...Why exactly do I need to find an ''anti-Obama person asking McCain a question that''s been attacked on right-wing blogs?'' What exactly does that have to do with the point of my posts about this issue? Obama continued? Really? That''s what you''re trying to say? Obama needs to take responsibility for the fact that McCain tried to use Joe to attack Obama and my god, Obama defended himself so now it''s his fault people want to know about Joe? Really??? Er...
I think that part should have been directed at Ebree actually, so sorry about that. But no Obama doesn''t have to take responsibility..and no it isn''t "his fault." Did I ever explicitly say this is all Obama''s fault? I remember saying that this is what happens when you ASK Obama a question far-lefties won''t like. I am sorry if I said or implied it was "Obama''s fault" I think it is at least partially Joe''s fault, but I also think that hey don''t ask Obama a question or your skeletons will come out.
However, I do find it sickening that people are purposely trying to drag Joe''s name through the mud because he asked Obama a question. You can disagree with me on that if you want, but you''re really not going to change my mind. As for the debate issue I am just saying..if you''re going to blame it on McCain and make it sound like he''s the only one who mentioned it..we need to recognize that Obama also mentioned it multiple times after McCain did. I guess that''s irrelevant though since he was "defending" himself? He surely could have changed the topic, right? He didn''t have to continue to mention it multiple times, right? No I guess he had to in order to defend himself. And to answer your next post, yeah I really think the media still would have figured it out and cared because it had already been picked up by Fox as a positive story. So I think it is at least likely that MSNBC would have picked it up trying to counter Fox. But who knows! Like I said..I should probably bow out since this is pointless and well I don''t want to start to get snarky!
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Obama's answer to Joe the plumber's question was on the news before the debate ever aired. Obama told Joe right to his face that he'd raise his taxes...to spread the wealth.
McCain brought this up at the debate, as it is relevant, and Joe appeared to have gotten Obama to say what people have been ignoring for the last several months.
Let's state the obvious here: Joe is a republican. He wanted to catch Obama, and he caught him.
Instead of the left dealing with the fact that he was caught, they are more interested on if he was a "plant" (lmao), or if he's even registered to vote, or if he is a licensed plumber...because apparently to them that makes "Joe" less credible and gives them an excuse to pass him off as some redneck looney......that way they don't have to address what Obama said.
Joe asked a hypothetical question. Does his story even need to be true? I think not. There are many others out there that believe McCain is going to tax them to death. My boss is looking for cheaper office space right now in case Obama wins. I heard another lady the other day talking about how her pharmaceutical company is going to go to the crapper if Obama is elected. Another couple was wondering if they should get divorced to prevent themselves from being taxed.
So, I think Joe asked a good question.
McCain brought this up at the debate, as it is relevant, and Joe appeared to have gotten Obama to say what people have been ignoring for the last several months.
Let's state the obvious here: Joe is a republican. He wanted to catch Obama, and he caught him.
Instead of the left dealing with the fact that he was caught, they are more interested on if he was a "plant" (lmao), or if he's even registered to vote, or if he is a licensed plumber...because apparently to them that makes "Joe" less credible and gives them an excuse to pass him off as some redneck looney......that way they don't have to address what Obama said.
Joe asked a hypothetical question. Does his story even need to be true? I think not. There are many others out there that believe McCain is going to tax them to death. My boss is looking for cheaper office space right now in case Obama wins. I heard another lady the other day talking about how her pharmaceutical company is going to go to the crapper if Obama is elected. Another couple was wondering if they should get divorced to prevent themselves from being taxed.
So, I think Joe asked a good question.
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why would people be "foaming at the mouth" over a question that was asked that they already knew the answer to? it's no secret that Obama's plan includes tax increases for people who make what he was going to be. what is so scandalous or taboo about that?
and i agree that it is McCain's fault for making this guy famous: he didn't continue it, he responded to john's question about it - which is what he had to do. i'm sure the LAST thing obama wanted to do was to keep talking about that guy.
ETA: i'm sure thousands of people have asked obama questions that they've received hard answers to. what is different about this guy is that he was brought into the spotlight by obama's opponent and then by himself. neither of which obama had anything to do with. i can't possibly see how anyone could really blame obama for it.
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I must be getting smarter in my old age. When I watched the debate, I said to my fiance - great, now some random guy who has nothing to do with the election is going to be dragged out, he''ll have some major flaw, the Dems will get blamed for not ignoring the flaw, and by Friday I will be screaming at the computer WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS GUY????
I''m right on schedule.
And since we are saying nice things to one another, Mimzy, I have always enjoyed your signature line as well
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Super_Ideal_Rock
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LMAO ... I hope those that aren''t weighing in on this discussion can see the forest through the trees!
Yeah, yeah ... poor Joe The Plumber, dragged through the mud because the entire media is in the tank for Obama. And by somehow DISCREDITING Joe The Plumber, people will forget the SMOKING GUN SOCIALIST SPREADING THE WEALTH TRUTH about Obama.
Puh-leese. No one is hiding Obama''s policies. We''re voting FOR them. BECAUSE of them. And I personally hope each and every person making over $250K a year buys ME an Ipod.
Yeah, yeah ... poor Joe The Plumber, dragged through the mud because the entire media is in the tank for Obama. And by somehow DISCREDITING Joe The Plumber, people will forget the SMOKING GUN SOCIALIST SPREADING THE WEALTH TRUTH about Obama.
Puh-leese. No one is hiding Obama''s policies. We''re voting FOR them. BECAUSE of them. And I personally hope each and every person making over $250K a year buys ME an Ipod.
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