Calling all the Pregnant PS''ers

[nycbkgirl]

Court- that''s a toughie. Maybe talk to doc to work out ways to alleviate back pain...I.e...hot packs while u site...even get the maternity support belt..and get up often to walk a little?

 

[Pandora II]

Hi Courtney

I totally hear you on the back pain - it's driving me crazy too.

Suggestions:

- See if you can get some acupuncture.
- Get a TENS machine (I have the Accupulse) - they don't take the pain away but they distract it for a while (I use mine 8+ hours a day a times)
- Heated cushion - I recently bought a lumbar cushion from Scholl that plugs into the mains and heats up. I mainly use it on my upper back and it does seem to help.
- Codeine (runs away to hide as I'm a bad, bad person...

)

Physio is not normally high on my list of 'fun' activities and it can make you feel sore afterwards. I'm seeing my new one on the 18th - I don't hold out much hope though. I am thinking of getting a proper corset though - I have one anyway, but it won't do up over the bump - and with any luck it might hold my ribs in place and stop the pain there and hold my hips together and prempt the dreaded EPP.

Sorry, no magic remedies I'm afraid - but much sympathy. I wake up crying at night it's so nasty at the moment, so I know just how miserable and desperate you can start to feel.


Robbie - love the belly pic, you look amazing. I think I might see blue too - post it up on the in-gender forum and I'm sure the girls there will tell you for definite.

Here it has been the worst snow for nearly 20 years - London is at a standstill with no buses, almost no tube lines, almost no trains and few clear roads. It meant DH didn't have to go to work today - hooray.

On the other hand, the forecast isn't great for the next few days and I reckon my employer will cancel Wednesday's meeting - it's the final stage with them and I hate getting all ready for something and then it being put off and having to mentally compose myself again. Grrrrr

In baby news, my shopping is going well - I am addicted to bamboo fabric and have scored some mega-bargains on some gorgeous baby blankets. Bamboo feels like cashmere but you can bung it in the washing-machine like cotton. It's also super eco-friendly, anti-bacterial, cool in summer and warm in winter and is just one of my favourite things ever. I'm trying to find some big sheets in it so I can make sheets to fit the co-sleeper (which doesn't take standard sizes) as I don't care for the ones that came with it.

DH bought Daisy a gorgeous bear at the weekend - he has already bought her a lamb - he's terrible for soft toys... it's very sweet, but I think the social worker thinks he's the crazy one. She commented on the whole shelf of soft toys in the baby's room and I had to admit that they actually belonged to DH not the baby!

Daisy is also super-active at the moment - and boy can she kick hard now. She hates me standing still and goes crazy - then goes to sleep when I walk about. Lying in bed is fine as long as it's on my back otherwise I get very odd feelings. If I'm lying down and relax my stomach as much as possible I can feel all the bits of her - head, back, legs etc and occasionally a little foot. Still feels like something out of Alien though!

I also bought yummy paint from Farrow & Ball for the chest of drawers/changing table and wardrobe. James White - not the shade I would have gone for if it was a free choice - but it matches the colour the woodwork in the room is already painted. (I did order a sample of 'Cooking Apple Green' to try on the kitchen wall - I love that shade). Then had to buy all the other crap that one needs to be able to paint anything... now all I need to do is get on with it!

Pandora
25 weeks tomorrow....

 

[pavelover]

Hey courtney- I think you are in the u.s., right? I am in Ca and we have short term disability from the state- Is your short term disability private? I wanted you to double check on how they base the 70% because for Ca sdi, they base the money on your highest earning quarter of the previous four quarters- so maybe yours is the same and it wouldnt affect your insurance? Just thought maybe you could double check and it would make your decision easier.
Sorry to hear that you are in so much pain. that cannot be fun. Hope time flies for you or the pain goes away!

hope everyone else is well- it sounds like you are! take care,

Suzanne

 

[nycbkgirl]

Mela- love the design! Its so calming...makes me wanna have a cup of tea and relax in candelight
That''s my idea of a great nursery..."spa-like"..relaxation...but I may have some brighter colors such as orange and green bc of the cribs I want.

 

[Blenheim]

Robbie, sorry your guests were so exhausting. I fell asleep during the second quarter, so I can sympathize.

Tailbone pain - I''ve had it on and off for months, and what always seems to help is to have DH apply counterpressure to my sacrum for a couple of minutes in the evening. It causes it to go away for at least a few days, sometimes a couple of weeks. Plus it''s a good technique for him to know if I end up having back labor.

Back pain - I''ve also heard that doing cat-cow (yoga pose) can help to strengthen back muscles and help with back pain in pregnancy. My workplace doesn''t allow the big exercise balls - boo!!!
I''m really sorry to hear that you''re feeling so bad, Courtney.

Mela - very cute!

Thanks for the input on names. When I was lying in bed last night, I realized that Oliver didn''t pass our one-syllable test... I have a tendency to abbreviate all of our dogs two-syllable names to the first syllable around the house, and want something that can be sometimes abbreviated when I get lazy without sounding completely crazy. Ol just doesn''t sound right. Well, neither does Chlo (Chloe) or Ang (Angus), but too late now! I''m not sure if I''m ever going to be sure on names until they''re on the birth certificate, but I think we''ll stick with George as the forerunner for now.

Nycbk - George and Oliver are actually very similar in terms of popularity for babies in the US - Oliver''s 140 and George''s 147. But George has traditionally been more popular and I can think of more famous Georges.

 

[Dreamer_D]

So DH and I went on a tour of the hospital tonight, to see the Labour area just in case. I guess as far as hospitals go it was pretty good. You labour, deliver, and recover all in the same room, and the rooms are pretty big and not too anticeptic. There is a nice couch/bed in the room for attendants to sleep on if labour is very long, rocking chairs, and lots of room to move around. Lights can be dimmed or brightened and the temperature is theoretically adjustible. The bathroom is also large and has a tub with jets in it. There is a sign by the tub that says "Tub is for patients only" which I thought was hilarious, as if DH was going to have a bath while I was in labour

. So if we have to go to the hospital I guess that''s okay.

But I still found it all too sterile and impersonal. I feel like labour is a very private and intimate thing and I would feel so much more comfortable in my own home! The bed looks really really narrow to me! All I could think was, "Man you can''t even roll over in that thing, you have to shift yourself in place!" So hopefully we can have a home birth, but if not we will be staying at home as long as possible so that I can get through the antsy-pants phase in the comfort of my own home where I can walk around naked, get in the shower, moan, lay on my birthing ball, pet my dogs, and basically do whatever I want!

 

[Blenheim]

DD, I feel the same way about hospitals - even though L&D at the hospital I went to was pretty nice as they go. I have seen videos of waterbirths were attendants hop in the tub with the laboring woman to get to a better angle to massage her or something, so it''s actually not as out there as it seems! Our childbirth instructor actually mentioned packing a bathing suit for DH in the hospital bag if you think that may happen (and if it''s not against hospital rules). At what point would you be cleared for a HB? Or are you just thinking about what would happen if you had to transfer?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 2/2/2009 9:34:14 PM
Author: Blenheim
DD, I feel the same way about hospitals - even though L&D at the hospital I went to was pretty nice as they go. I have seen videos of waterbirths were attendants hop in the tub with the laboring woman to get to a better angle to massage her or something, so it's actually not as out there as it seems! Our childbirth instructor actually mentioned packing a bathing suit for DH in the hospital bag if you think that may happen (and if it's not against hospital rules). At what point would you be cleared for a HB? Or are you just thinking about what would happen if you had to transfer?

I think the only thing in the way at this point is the GBS test, since if it is positve we need to have antibiotics during labour and that must be done in a hospital setting (by our midwife). But we are planning a home birth at this point and the midwife is fine with that. The reality is, however, that with most first time births end up going to the hospital for a variety of reasons. The midwives are very cautious about maternal exhaustion, mostly, and since first labours can be long that is a real possibility. Our midwives are not "Ina Mays", so to speak

, and because they are government funded and sanctioned health care providers, I think they have to be more cautious than some midwives in othr places. But I am happy with letting them make the call, I trust that it will not be made unnecessarily. We will be at home attended by the midwives for the majority of the labour, no matter where we end up having the baby, and that alone makes me happy. I will also feel fine being attended by my midwives in the hospital--apparently they "bar the doors" and medical people and stuff doesn't come in unless required! LOL!

ETA I am no little lady, especially now

... there is no way that DH would fit in that tub with me!

Are you prepared to transfer to hospital if needed? Will your midwife still attend you if that happens?

 

[Blenheim]

Ok, that makes a lot of sense! Depending on what you mean by if I''m prepared to transfer, the answer is... maybe.

I''m fine with my midwife''s judgment and I''m emotionally prepared for the possibility. I don''t, however, have a packed hospital bag or the paperwork filled out or people lined up to watch the dogs. But I have time to take care of that. My m/w doesn''t have admitting privileges, so if I had to transfer she''d move into more of a doula-type role. The one exception is if we were able to get my OB to attend - it sounds like he''s pretty cool with them working together.

 

[Mrs]

Hey ladies! Wanted to fill you all in on my ultrasound this morning. My dr. had asked that I go in for a scan to see what was up since she was concerned about my weight and measurements putting me ahead of my scheduled due date.

Good news: we got to see her in 4D which was very unexpected and she''s beautiful! It was amazing to see her. And she''s not enormous - she''s measuring right on schedule at 4 pounds 12 ounces. She isn''t head down yet but she''s got lots of room to get that way.

Not such great news: my amniotic fluid level was a little too high which is why I''m bigger than I should be. The fluid level was at 24 cm which is the level at which they start to require twice weekly fetal monitoring. I think this is called polyhydramnios. From what I understand, polyhydramnios is often a symptom of gestational diabetes which I do not have. When I went in for the 1 hour glucose test in dec, my sugars were well under the cut off level. I guess the fluid could be high for a few reasons but the Dr did a thorough exam and the baby looks great so there''s no reason for concern. Nevertheless, they want me to go in to check her heart rate for 20 minutes twice a week and check the fluid levels (via ultrasound) once a week... It''s certainly not ideal since I''m still working and it will be difficult to schedule my travel (via car) and meetings so that I can be in my home office twice a week but I''m trying to focus on the fact that the monitoring is only precautionary. It wont be great to have to go to the hospital twice a week but it''s a small price to pay for a healthy baby.

So that''s what''s up with me. Not great news since I was hoping to continue to have a normal pregnancy with no need for any extra monitoring but I know it could be much worse and I''m grateful that everything seems fine despite the elevated fluid level.

Courtney, your little girl is beautiful! great pics! Sorry your back''s been hurting though.

cdt, enjoy not looking pregnant while you can! I know how it feels to want to look pregnant but it last a long time and trust me when I say you''ll get sick of looking pregnant long before the baby comes!

mela, I love your color inspiration for the nursery!

DD, glad your shower was fun! Sorry your not feeling great about the hospital - hopefully you''ll deliver at home!

Blen, I love the name George!

Anyway, I hope you''re all well! Sorry for not giving everyone else a shout out now but I gotta sleep.

Mrs. 33 weeks, 3 days

 

[Pandora II]

Mrs, I don't want to worry you or anything, but did they do a normal 2D scan to check things like the baby's palate?

I only ask because my sister had polyhydramnios and my father (who was the only doctor who spotted it) told my mother to prepare for the potential of something not being quite right with the baby. My niece was born with a cleft palate.

I've had a lot of additional screening to rule it out - both because of my niece and because my meds 'might' increased the chances. It's not something that they generally seem to look out for in great detail.

It's good that they have spotted the polyhydramnios though - with my sister, her midwives didn't and she ended up with a 36 hour labour as there was so much amniotic fluid that the baby kept bobbing up like a cork and wouldn't engage. (She's very neurotic hence why my father didn't tell her when he noticed 2 weeks before the birth.)

 

[softly softly]

Not to discount the very valuable information Pandora has given you, but I just wanted to add that I was diagnosed with the same condition with my first baby at around 30 weeks and he was born without any abnormalities. In fact I was blissfully unaware of any potential complications until a friend who was a doctor informed me of them after he was born.

However, I did find as Pandora has mentioned he failed to engage and I ended up having a C section after 15 hours of unproductive labour. Which in the scheme of things, as you say, was a small price to pay for a healthy child.

It sounds like your doctors are on top of it.

 

[Pandora II]

It''s only a 20% risk of an abnormality with the baby causing the hydramnios - so there is an 80% chance that all is well.

If you''re getting scanned though, it''s worth checking.

(Just to add, my niece had her palate fixed at 9 months and you would never guess to hear her now - she''s 4 and a bit. The operation was far more traumatic for my sister - the baby sailed through it).

 

[Courtneylub]

Pave, I know that California works very differently than any other state. In Texas, they don''t have to offer anything they don''t want to except for 12 weeks leave (paid or unpaid) with guarantee of holding your position. I get 70% pay for 8 weeks because I''ve been there 2 weeks. It''s the company''s policy, not the state''s.

Thanks, Pandora...today I''m trying the massager and pillow!

 

[fisherofmengirly]

Blen, I''m gonna go with George, too. Plus, I''m a girly girl sometimes and I like to think of names for boys that girls can put a Y at the end of, and Georgy is so cute! You know, I call my husband Pauly more than I call him Paul. Haha. He hated it to begin with, but...

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Dreamer,

I wanna hear about your shower, girl!!

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Mela,

Love the color choices, girl. SO nice!!

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Mrs,

I''m hopeful and praying that the extra fluid means NOTHING in the way of your delivery or the health of your baby. And she''s a cutie, too!

 

[Mrs]

Thanks for your comments and concerns ladies!

Pandora, thanks for letting me know about your sister''s experience! The nurse did the first scan with the regular ultrasound wand and moved to the 4d wand for the very end of her review just so we could see her in 4d. Then the Dr came in and did an even more thorough exam with the regular wand so I''m very confidant that he would have seen anything that was abnormal. Thank you for your concern though! I will make sure to have them look specifically for any palate abnormalities next time.

Softly, thanks for your reassurance! I''m so glad the condition had no negative impact on your baby! May I ask how much fluid you had?

I understand that I''m just on the edge of the point where they start to be concerned. The Dr said levels of 30 and 40 cm are where it really gets to be a problem so with 24 cm, I''m just getting into the range where they monitor everything but they don''t need to been terribly concerned yet. Let''s hope the levels go down though since I would still really like to have a natural birth and it sounds like higher levels of fluid might prevent her from dropping like I''ll need her to...

 

[fieryred33143]

Mrs-Hope everything turns out well hun! I'm sure its just as you said, you're at a point where they just monitor everything.
Blen-Thanks for your tips on tailbone pain! I'm going to have to try that. I also think its because my exercise activity level is really, really low. I need to really start working out a lot more and maybe a little more intense.

We're booking our babymoon

And we're going to Puerto Rico

I am soooo excited. FI has never been and the last time I went I was 12

. Like most new places we visit, we're staying in the city first (San Juan). In later trips we'll venture out as far away from the city as possible (San Juan is sooo expensive

). The *best* part is that FI's company has a resort out there and it's only $89 a night with his employee rate (normally $250 a night). And because we're saving money on the hotel, I may just book us first class tickets

. Not that first class on a 3 hour flight is impressive but my wide load will probably need more room so it'll be nice to have seats where my rear will actually fit

. We're booking for the weekend of our made-up anniversary which is April 5th. Truth be told I really wanted to go to Dominican Republic because at least there we can stay in "el campo" and I know my way around. *FI doesn't have his passport, that's why we aren't going to DR. Don't get me started on that conversation though because I may implode.

I'm not too familiar enough with PR to be comfortable staying outside of San Juan. But it will be so beautiful there in April and its holy week so we may be able to attend church and see all of the beautiful ceremonies. Sooooo exciting.

 

[mela lu]

Mornin'!

Mrs - sorry to hear about the fluid levels, but hopefully this doesn't affect the baby. Maybe the birth...but that is a small sacrifice in the grand scheme, right? Hang in there! Your little girl is GORGEOUS! that is a fantastic u/s pic!

Blen and DD - you gals are SO on top of things. I hope I'm that way when I'm closer to the date. I feel like you two are so prepared for the birth, mentally. I still feel so far away from it. GAK. Anyways, sounds like you both have a great perspective on things.

Pandora - holy snow there!!! I can't believe that London got walloped so hard and that you guys shut down!! nuts. We often get huge dumpings of snow, and are reasonably equipped to deal with it. Meaning, we never get snow days

, even with 20cm of snow.
I love that you and your DH are knee deep in buying things. Again, I feel so removed from all that. At least I've registered for things...but until I see them in my house - in some form of a nursery - I'll feel unprepared. Sounds like I'm entering my nesting phase?!
Also, Pandora, I've been trying to identify the baby's body parts (as you described) while lying down, but I can't quite figure it out.

I DID feel either a foot or a knee....it was sharply protruding, but then it receded, never to be felt again.

SO COOL!

ETA: Fiery - congrats on your babymoon!!! We did ours over Xmas in Mexico and I'm so glad we did. HAVE SO MUCH FUN!!!

I bought a white moses basket yesterday off my neighbor. So cute. Hopefully, the babe will sleep in it beside my bed.

That would be my first choice for sleeping arrangements. Technically, that was my first "big" baby purchase. Hopefully, it will start the ball rolling.

Have a great day everyone!!!!

K, back to work.
Mela 24w4d

 

[Dreamer_D]

Mrs It is very possible that the fluid level will be fine next time you are checked. Although we don''t like to believe it, scans are not an exact science and there is a lot of error. My friend was being monitored for low levels and when they checked the nex tweek it was fine. So don''t worry untill you need to, which is not quite yet!

 

[nycbkgirl]

Mrs- what a lil cutie u got there! Sorry to hear about the fluid..I don''t know anything about that so I wish u all the best and hopefully its not a big problem!

Fiery- congrats on babymoon! PR is really nice...I of course only stayed in san juan but the food and weather and beaches are great! Relax and enjoy yourselves...beaches sound soooo good right now lol

DD- still waiting to hear about shower and all the goodies u received

<-- 24w2d

 

[Pandora II]

Dear All,

Dust for tomorrow afternoon would be much appreciated - I have the final appeal stage with my employer before we go to court at 2.30pm.

I''ve spent the last 3 weeks working on our case and a courier has just delivered (at 6.30pm) the documents from my employer - a whole bloody lever arch file of them most of which I have never seen before. It''s also hard copy so I can even send them to my legal team (plus it''s too late in the evening).

I just spoke to my representative and she hasn''t even got her set yet.

I''m trying so hard not to panic and lose it. DH is taking a cab home from the office to help me go through them thank goodness.

 

[nycbkgirl]

Pandora- im sending lots of lucky dust your way! I wish u all the best and let ''em have it! Try to breathe and relax ..remember baby doesn''t need worry,panic or stress! Stay strong mama!

 

[fieryred33143]

Best wishes pandora! I''ll be thinking of you tomorrow!!

 

[mela lu]

Shiatty Pandora. I truly hope things go smoothly - and in your favour.

Thinking of you tomorrow...hopefully this will all be over soon and you can get back to focusing on the more important things

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 2/3/2009 2:21:33 PM
Author: mela lu
Shiatty Pandora. I truly hope things go smoothly - and in your favour.

Thinking of you tomorrow...hopefully this will all be over soon and you can get back to focusing on the more important things

Ditto! And maybe try what I am trying to do now that work stuff is annoying and in the air for me too-- I keep reminding myself that work is not the most important thing in my life and it will all work out in the end, and there is a baby counting on me to be his or her mom soon! That is a job worth looking forward to, no matter what happens in other areas of life. I find this thought reassuring and it takes some of the pressure off. {{{HUGS WOMAN!!}}}

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Everyone else: My close friend just gave birth naturally at home about 2 weeks ago and had some really great advice about labour that I thought I would pass along. I think this stuff is useful to anyone planning a natural birth, but would also be helpful for others planning to have pain meds especially in the early phases or during pushing:

Dreamer, here is my advice for birthing...
1. Get on top of your breathing as soon as the contraction starts. Focus on a calm breath. If you wait until the contraction is really intense, it is more difficult. Kind of like catching a wave for surfers, you have to stay just ahead of it.

2. I didn''t do much to prepare for labor, but a couple of things that helped me (aside from the breathing, which happens pretty naturally) were visualization and affirmation. When I was having the contractions I would visualize my cervix opening and command it to "open, open, open," sometimes in my head and sometimes out loud. [Dreamer says: my other friends who went natural also mentioned this. One used the mantra: "You can do it" and the other visualized her cervix opening like a fower]

3. When it came to pushing, I had to push with reckless abandon (apparently my contractions weren''t very strong, so a lot of effort was required on my part - not what I had expected). I always remember your mum telling me that when it comes to pushing out your baby, it is like pushing out the biggest sh** of your life. Well it really is! Remember that when you are pushing, it''s like you are pushing that baby out your butt! Your midwife may be able to show you where to direct your pushing. Very low pitched vocalizations help too.

4. When you start to feel the burning, you are SO CLOSE. Don''t worry about the burning, it is a GOOD thing, you want to feel that because it means your tissues are stretching rather than tearing. It''s not that bad either. I found it more intense than painful.

5. Make sure your midwife is going to protect your perineum... Birth the head and shoulders as slowly as you can manage to give the tissue time to stretch. It is tough because it is all so intense at that point and all you want to do is push that baby out and be done with it. BUT - as a woman going through the immediate postpartum, I strongly recommend you do all you can to avoid tearing. I had a small 1st degree tear that required 3 stitches. It has definitely increased the discomfort and length of the healing period. I am sure your midwife will also support your perineum with compresses and counter-pressure.

6. I pushed in a squat in the pool for 1.5 hours with the head moving only millimeters. You can check yourself internally. You can also check your dilation in the first stage yourself. It is encouraging. Then my midwife got me into the bathroom into a lunge position. One foot on the floor leaning forward into my other leg up on the side of the bathtub. Leaning into DH for support. Oh my god it was so intense. But then I could actually feel the baby moving down with each push and so I stayed with it because I knew it was working. And thus my baby girl was born onto the bathroom floor!

7. It was really nice to have a hand-held mirror to view the action between contractions. Very encouraging to see the baby''s head coming more and more into view.

8. And one tip for the post-partum. Comfrey sitz baths and frozen pads. Absolute heaven!

 

[mela lu]

OMG dreamer. For some reason that freaked me out. I need to do some reading and labor prep. CLEARLY I'm totally 'lost' right now regarding labor because that shouldn't scare me...it should empower me. All I wanted to do was pee my pants reading that.

I'm going to hit a bookstore for starters. I want to go into this feeling confident and not A-scared.

So books that have been reco'd (that I can remember) were " Ina May's Guide to Childbirth" and "Birthing from Within: An Extra-Ordinary Guide to Childbirth Preparation"...

any others?

ETA: I'm not a touchy-feely girl, at all, so any reco's away from the 'softies' would be appreciated.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 2/3/2009 3:12:59 PM
Author: mela lu
OMG dreamer. For some reason that freaked me out. I need to do some reading and labor prep. CLEARLY I'm totally 'lost' right now regarding labor because that shouldn't scare me...it should empower me. All I wanted to do was pee my pants reading that.

I'm going to hit a bookstore for starters. I want to go into this feeling confident and not A-scared.

So books that have been reco'd (that I can remember) were ' Ina May's Guide to Childbirth' and 'Birthing from Within: An Extra-Ordinary Guide to Childbirth Preparation'...

any others?

ETA: I'm not a touchy-feely girl, at all, so any reco's away from the 'softies' would be appreciated.

Stick to Ina May. It is not touchy feely and is a great read. It will help, I promise! The first half are birth stories and the second half is interesting facts about the physiology of birth that help you to know what is going on in your body during the whole process... There is a section in the book on the sensuality of birth that you may find disturning. I thought it made sense, but you can always skip that section if it seems too strange to you

Also, your midwife may have some videos of natural births. Watch as many as you can since I found watching them made it all more real and less scary, since the unknown is what is scary. I watched one where the woman was loud and freaking out the whole time and kept saying, "I can't do this!" and her midwife kept reassuring her... then when baby was born the woman said, "I can't believe it was so easy!" LOL!! My point is, what WE see when we watch others birth and their own experiences internally can be very different. Anyways, knowledge is power, so making it all less mysterious should take away some of the scariness. I feel lucky that so many of my friends recently had natural births and have shared their stories... I feel like if they can do it why not me? Ina May's book is like that too...

 

[Blenheim]

Mrs - I hope that the fluid levels go down.

Pandora - lots and lots of dust.

Fiery - that trip sounds great! I''m jealous.

Mela - ditto to Ina May. I''d stay away from Birthing from Within if you don''t like touch feely. I feel like I had other suggestions - hopefully I"ll think of them later.

DD- thanks for passing her tips along.

Baby turned to head down yesterday, and is back to transverse today. Silly baby.

 

[Courtneylub]

I hear the frozen pads soaked in witch hazel are the BEST medicine! I plan on getting those ready beforehand!

 

[nycbkgirl]

Can anyone think of boy''s names that begin with either
"Y" or "F" ?